The Bridge

The Unhandled Exception

15:14

These [dwarf-fortress] questions always make me chuckle :-)

radp

I hate Beat Hazard on Insane

everything runs kamikaze style into me

dammit

I missed the chance for an un-funny misogynist joke in the bag question

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I'm sure you'll have more jokepertunities @badp :-D

radp

"Giving up for a moment on her womanly instincts, she took a second to activate her 20 INT and realize that maybe 5k is a bit too much for that LOOOOOVELY bag"

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LOL

Mechko

15:30

sigh. First class got cancelled

antony.trupe

15:42

that sounds like a dup

3

Q: Dwarf Fortress Animal Segregation

How do I get my animals to not congregate at the same place my dwarfs do?

tzenes

mornin

Arda Xi

hmm, never noticed that question is mistagged

antony.trupe

gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/dwarf-fortress+pc

Mana

Hey, should I tag my Mafia 2 question mafia2, mafia-2, or mafia-ii ?

Arda Xi

Aye.. only one of those deserves the PC tag :)

:135618 Fixed

Mana

15:59

Eh, mafia-2, I guess.

Mana

16:28

By the way, I think the tags [bugs] and [bug] should be merged. Any way we can do that other than go through and edit all the questions with the tag we want to remove?

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How many are there @Mana? I've done manual retags before and it SUCKS

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Only to find out the mods have a way to do that supposedly

Mana

bugs has 3, whereas bug has 11

Arda Xi

Synonyms?

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oh 3 is easy. I manually retagged like 80-something questions one time. Not going to do that again :-)

Arda Xi

16:31

Which should they be retagged to? to bug or to bugs?

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I vote bug

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(for whatever my vote's worth -- I have very very low rep on gaming. :-)

Arda Xi

Vote please (If you have 1k rep)

McKay

Voted

Mana

hm. Roguelikes is the tag we use, but bug as opposed to bugs?

Ah well. I guess bug is good.

Arda Xi

16:34

If a question is about a single bug you wouldn't tag it bugs

Mana

That's true.

but if a question was about a single roguelike you wouldn't tag it roguelikes, either

Arda Xi

true

antony.trupe

voted

Mana

shrugs If it becomes a big enough problem I'll open up a meta topic

Arda Xi

the example text suggests singular though

Mana

16:35

but it seems pretty minor

Arda Xi

> For example, suggest “bike” as a synonym for bicycle, or “sock” for socks.

Mana

Ah, you're right.

How do you quote in chat markdown?

Arda Xi

> message

Mana

Ah

>Hullo.

oh, space

Arda Xi

Synonym approved

Mana

16:37

> Hullo

There we go.

Arda Xi

Remember, you can edit your messages.

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woah! I had no idea! That's really crazy. This system ROCKS!

Mana

Yeah. I said oh, space kind of impulsively, making it too late

antony.trupe

there's a bunch of pending synonyms

gaming.stackexchange.com/tags/…

Mana

oh, hey, I can edit messages before my last.

Arda Xi

16:40

no badge for suggesting a successful synonym? :(

Mana

hm, why is xbla changed to xbox-live-arcade but playstation-network changed to psn?

Arda Xi

because we like to be really inconsistent with our abbreviations

Mana

(well, if the synonyms are approved)

Arda Xi

same thing goes for [first-person-shooter] and [rpg]

Mana

Yeah, that's true.

Arda Xi

16:47

Try a shop?

Mana

Try an emulator if you can legally?

The Unhandled Exception

or if you can't legally, but you don't tell anyone ;-)

Mana

:<

Bad @Josh, bad!

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just kidding! :-)

Arda Xi

there's a PC port

The Unhandled Exception

16:50

I don't have zsnesx on my xbox, really I don't! XD

Arda Xi

so... as I said, try ye olde gameshoppe

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Agree with @ArdaXi. Always buy if you can

Arda Xi

I'm really surprised we have only had one warez question so far

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Actually that surprises me too

The Unhandled Exception

how long has gaming. been around now? I am late to join

Arda Xi

16:53

about 2 months

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wow. Lots of activity in these 2 months!

Mana

@ArdaXi: do you want to be the one who comments on the question or should I?

Arda Xi

:135737 Go ahead :)

Mana

agh, okay

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@Mana does your nic come from Secret of Mana by any chance? :-)

Mana

16:56

@Josh Yup.

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Awesome

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Probably my favorite game of all time

Mana

I was 12, needed a nickname, looked around my room, Secret of Mana poster hanging there...bam.

One of the first games I ever played, still one of my favorites.

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SOM Poster... ::drools::

radp

@Mana, commented on your question

lol, I love Windows Firewall

Mana

16:58

Thanks @badp

radp

The only reason I leave it on is that it doesn't do anything

Arda Xi

It got annoyed at my neglect and started bugging me, so I turned it off

radp

I've been trying Need For Speed World for the last hour (yaaawn) and when I switch back to here I get a prompt on whether I want to "keep blocking" the game or not

Mana

@ArdaXi, can you explain the close reason on MGS? Words are failing me right now, so I just mentioned that any game store might have MGS for PC.

McKay

Anyone know who voted to close:

:135772

Mana

17:13

@McKay ...Huh?

McKay

Hmm, it's not linking the @gaming post.

Anyone know who voted to close:

4

Q: Hot Shot Feat of Strength

I see everywhere that the Hot Shot Feat of Strength can be unlocked by winning 5 placement matches. I've did this with a friend in 2v2, but none of us got the achievement. Can anyone confirm that it does exist?

starcraft-2 achievements feats-of-strength

Mana

No idea.

Bit of an odd question though

FallenAngelEyes

Evening all

C. Ross

afternoon

radp

'noon

Oak

17:30

Evening

radp

'ning

Out of curiosity

Is there any single question that can't be asked about roguelikes that wouldn't be tagged spoiler ?

tzenes

evening fallen

Oak

Ah tzenes, my mortal enemy

tzenes

@badp can you ask that question without a triple negative?

C. Ross

:135839 Yes, I think so. "How do I look inside a bag"

tzenes

17:32

Oak, once again I have arrived to do battle

how's things btw?

Oak

You know the more I think about it, the better I think is your idea for an sc2 tournament

radp

Good point. Now not to not avoid to refrain to not not not not retag all questions that aren't untagged 'roguelike' with a tag that isn't different from 'spoiler'.

3

Arda Xi

@badp that's a bit of a useless edit

tzenes

the tournament in general? or is this about the community vs pro?

Arda Xi

it got 22 upvotes because of that title :)

radp

17:34

@ArdaXi He's not asking how to pray, he's asking how to do it safely

He already got his 110 rep for the title :)

I'm not taking it away from him

Oak

@tzenes The tournament in general. I also think the most important thing about it is what kind of visibility it will get, and I think two things have the greatest impact on visibility: the kind of players and the popurity of casters (if any)

radp

...and the prizes

Oak

Well, prizes don't increase visibility

C. Ross

:135853 my brain hurts ... I think that sentence made me through a ParseException

Oak

but they do draw top-level players

radp

17:36

:135873 I know, that was for @tzenes

tzenes

:135864 I suppose I originally liked the idea that this was about the community and making SE seem like a more friendly place (where as closing game-rec does the opposite), but I can see where you're coming from, and as a promotional event it makes more sense to target popular players and casters

so I guess I agree with you

Oak

Sorry to ruin your dream :)

tzenes

well, nothing stops me from organizing a community only event too

Oak

I just remember Husky and HD mention iRip in their casts of their HDH, and I'm thinking - it will do us SO good if our name would be there

tzenes

but I think the focus should be on the promotional one

Definately

Oak

17:38

I'm still unsure whether we should organize one or just sponsor someone else's tournament

Oak

Not sure about the pros and cons

Oak

Maybe the organizer doesn't matter, only the money does

tzenes

I'm not sure who we would get to organize it then

Oak

And I definitely get from Robert's posts that if we organize something, they are willing to throw in some cash

tzenes

would we expect HDH to do so?

HDH = HD and Husky

Oak

17:40

I actually remember Husky mentioning a future HDH2

radp

:135895 english.stackexchange.com/questions/2105/…

Oak

We can contact him about that by mail, I suppose

tzenes

I was about to suggest the same thing

radp

off to report the bug

tzenes

@badp thats a good question

on an unrelated note, what's so bad about: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/6562

Mana

17:42

Shopping advice.

"If this game exists, where can I find it?"

tzenes

he asks if the game has been ported to the PC

well, a good answer might contain a location as an example

but the basis of the question "does it exist" is actually a good question

Mana

So, chop off the where can I find it part?

tzenes

Perhaps just changing the wording to: "I would also appreciate knowing where to find it"

radp

"To find it, visit torrentz.com or ..."

tzenes

hey now, I provided valid links

radp

17:44

Yeah, I removed the quote bit, I just imagined myself replying that

Oak

@tzenes I think I'll first contact Robert about it, to get a feel of what kind of money is involved here

tzenes

@Oak probably a good direction

I am 100% on your side on this one

and anything I can do to help, let me know

Oak

It's your idea :)

Oak

I'll keep you in the loop, you're more knowledgeable than I am anyway in this, it seems

tzenes

I think of it as a collaborative effort

Mana

17:46

I'll try to get in touch with the people behind the internet gaming show Bytejacker, see if I can get them to drop a word about us in one of their next episodes

tzenes

On an unrelated note for you MW2 Experts: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/6252/…

McKay

If it's going to get closed because it asks a localized question in addition to a real question... edited to removed localized part of the question. Respect the original poster. Don't just close the question because half of his question is bad.

Oak

How do you call the guy who keeps on talking during the broadcast of a sports game?

Oak

Caster? Annotator? Narrator? Announcer?

Oak

Broadcaster?

McKay

17:57

Announcer.

But I don't watch sports much, so I'm not sure.

JavadocMD

Sportscaster.

Or sports commentator.

Arda Xi

:136017 What does 'seedy' mean?

JavadocMD

18:13

seedy: disreputable, shady, unlawful

Arda Xi

Hmm, never seen that word before

JavadocMD

Vocab!

Have some.

:)

C. Ross

I think that's technically slang ...

JavadocMD

Nah. It's in common enough usage now.

C. Ross

:136035 That's an awkward question

radp

18:14

oh, I thought it was "seedy" as in "seed-y" as in question spam

JavadocMD

In this context, the poster seems to mean the question requires an answer that breaks the rules, hence, it's a seedy question.

Arda Xi

:136068 That's what I thought at first, apparently it's a synonym of shabby

radp

You then might want to change it to something else

JavadocMD

:136083 Yeah, it's a word that can mean a lot of things depending on context.

I'd post a definition but how do you post things inline like I see people doing?

Arda Xi

> like this?

results in

> like this?

JavadocMD

18:19

I mean how people post Wikipedia articles and the like.

Arda Xi

oh, just paste the link, but that only works for certain sites

JavadocMD

Ah, gotcha.

alexanderpas

Wikipedia

Wikipedia is a free, web-based, collaborative, multilingual encyclopedia project supported by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation. Its 16 million articles (over 3.4 million in English) have been written collaboratively by volunteers around the world, and almost all of its articles can be edited by anyone with access to the site. Wikipedia was launched in 2001 by Jimmy Wales and Larry Sanger and is currently the largest and most popular general reference work on the Internet, The name ' (pronounced or ) was coined by Larry Sanger and is a portmanteau from wiki (a technology for creatin...

JavadocMD

So yeah that question is using definition 2b from M-W: merriam-webster.com/dictionary/seedy

Arda Xi

wow, dwarven babyboom

alexanderpas

18:21

alexanderpas, Netherlands

3.9k 3 26

dwarf-fortress wii fallout-3 pc spoiler old-games mario

C. Ross

:136110 actual beardlings, not migrants?

alexanderpas

were just en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia & gaming.stackexchange.com/users/29/alexanderpas in a seperate post.

JavadocMD

Cool

Arda Xi

:136116 little dwarf kiddies born inside Authoredblockades

C. Ross

ok, not the succession game

Arda Xi

18:23

:136125 in my own fortress yes

McKay

:136118 @JavadocMD Yes, the link has to be the only thing in the post to be inlined.

Arda Xi

:136130 Except for a reply marker

alexanderpas

:136133 chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/136133

like that, which was just :136133 http://chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/136133

McKay

yes, you can also use reply markers with other things too:

:136135 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Video_Game

Arda Xi

:136141 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Really

McKay

18:33

:136142 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/yes

JavadocMD

O RLY?

O RLY? is an Internet phenomenon, typically presented as an image macro featuring a Snowy Owl. The phrase "O RLY?", an abbreviated form of "Oh, really?", is popularly used in Internet forums in a sarcastic manner, often in response to an obvious, predictable, or blatantly false statement. Similar owl image macros followed the original to present different views, including images with the phrases "YA RLY" (Yeah, really.) and "NO WAI!!" (No way!). History The phrase "O RLY?" was used on the Something Awful Forums at least as early as August 2003. The original "O RLY?" Snowy Owl image macr...

Arda Xi

Amazing

Amazing may refer to: * A*mazing, an Australian children's television game show that aired in the mid to late 1990s * Amazing, a maze computer game bundled with the original Apple Macintosh Music Albums * Amazing (Banaroo album) * Amazin (Trina album) Songs * "Amazing" (Aerosmith song) * "Amazing" (High and Mighty Color song) * "Amazing" (George Michael song) * "Amazing" (Westlife song) * "Amazing" (Alex Lloyd song) * "Amazing" (Seal song) * "Amazing" (Kanye West song) * "Amazing" (Inna song) * "Amazin'" (LL Cool J song) * "Amazing", a song by Josh Kelley from his debut album For the...

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LOL @JavadocMD

tzenes

Ok, stop

please don't flood the chat

Playing with chat is fun, and largely harmless, but flooding prevents someone who wants to use the chat from doing so. I don't mind if you're off topic here, but if it can't easily be interrupted then we have an issue

I don't think this is an unreasonable standpoint

alexanderpas

seems interrupted pretty easily...

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18:37

I agree @tzenes and I'm sorry for my part in that

tzenes

@alexanderpas I think I nipped it in the bud, but I realize what you're saying and I don't necessarily disagree.

Arda Xi

:136163 That's what he meant. The fact you did that so easily means it can be easily interrupted.

alexanderpas

:136163 and I don't necessarily disagree with you by making that statement.

tzenes

I'm more concerned that if it went on for a while messages might have been missed thus preventing me (or someone else) from interrupting it

alexanderpas

if I'm on, i don't miss messages (I remember a case where I cooled down a heated discussion, because i saw a message in another chatroom)

but like i said, i don't say you're not right.

radp

18:46

@ArdaXi @JavadocMD chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/210/wikipedia-speak

radp

19:10

Here's a game Gaming needs more questions of

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing

Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing (often simply referred to as Big Rigs) is a 2003 third-person racing video game developed by Stellar Stone and published by Activision Value for Microsoft Windows PC systems; in 2004, GameMill Publishing was instead chosen to distribute copies of the title. The game was released only in North America. Although the packaging of Big Rigs states that the main objective of the game is to race their Big Rig to safety in order to deliver illegal cargo being carried by the vessel, while avoiding the local police force, in actuality, there are no police in the game...

Arda Xi

oooh, that's what you were trying to say

that conversation is giving me a headache

McKay

:136346 does it?

radp

Sure!!

alexanderpas

:136347 "Where is the police promised on the package?"

C. Ross

:136347 "Where is the game promised on the package?"

Arda Xi

19:18

:136347 "Where is the package promised in the game?"

McKay

:136347 "Where is the grammar?"

C. Ross

:136347 "What am I supposed to do with this $%^&?!?"

McKay

:136347 "Do any of my friends play?"

radp

:136410 Gear in the retro and accelerate. Don't worry. It'll be okay. You're completely safe.

JavadocMD

@alexanderpas My fiancee spent a summer in Rotterdam and brought back some liquorice. How do you people eat that stuff? :)

alexanderpas

19:24

:136413 1 at a time.

JavadocMD

@alexanderpas Haha! @others: (Sorry for the cross-channel chat, I'll keep it down.)

McKay

Is there a meta.chat.meta.stackoverflow.com to determine what the rules are for posting here?

radp

I don't know, you'd have to ask on meta.meta.chat.meta.stackoverflow

alexanderpas

:136426 Try creating a meta-channel if it not already existing.

C. Ross

it loops back around to

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/chat

Arda Xi

19:28

:136430 might be a better idea to ask on chat.meta.chat.meta.stackoverflow.com

radp

:136439 upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/1f/…

McKay

I just lost the game.

2

Arda Xi

:136446 <3

:136449 xkcd.com/391

McKay

This chat channel has increased my the game loss rate

alexanderpas

:136452 Is that even possible?

Arda Xi

19:31

:136465 I'm as surprised as you!

radp

:136465 You should ask on Gaming!

McKay

:136467 I didn't think it was possible

:136468 CLOSED off topic!

radp

It's mainly a videogame.

McKay

I heartily disagree.

radp

It runs mainly on the internet.

alexanderpas

19:32

belongs on boardgames.

Arda Xi

why is this still open

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Q: What are some well-designed tower defense games for the iphone?

I'm particularly interested in the ones you won't regularly find in the top 50.

iphone tower-defense

McKay

No, my brother announces losses at dinnertime sometimes.

radp

He comes from the internet!

Arda Xi

puts conversation back on its rails

alexanderpas

> I'm particularly interested in the ones you won't regularly find in the top 50.

what the heck does that mean?

Arda Xi

19:34

:136487 underdog

alexanderpas

ah... i was thinking about highscores... didn't make sense that way.

((are there even 50 TD games for the iphone?))

McKay

I think he means top 50 iPhone apps?

alexanderpas

probaly... but that makes it way too localized, in addition to subjective and argumentve.

Arda Xi

similarly,

2

Q: Tower defense games for PS3

Which games for ps3 are (or include minigames alike) Tower Defense games? Please, name them :) Also (if you know it) tell if they're available through PlayStation Store.

strategy ps3 tower-defense mini-games

JavadocMD

Still more hate for game-rec, eh?

Arda Xi

19:39

aye

alexanderpas

:136508 spoiler?

alexanderpas

19:53

:136520 I know I shoudn't joke about poor english.

radp

so in NFS:World, it so happens that your heat can go up faster than your car does

although getting busted is rarely a big deal

Arda Xi

My fortress is way too prosperous... kinda boring actually

alexanderpas

:136570 time to prepare for HFS.

Arda Xi

but there isn't any

and I don't want to dig down 100 levels

and, well, I can handle a siege, but not HFS

alexanderpas

20:08

that's why i said, prepare for HFS

Arda Xi

how does one prepare for HFS

alexanderpas

how does one prepare for 10 sieges at the same time coming from the inside.

Arda Xi

exactly

alexanderpas

can you beat 1 siege already, or are you simply staying inside.

Arda Xi

I wouldn't know, I have no enemies

alexanderpas

20:12

then make them ;)

Arda Xi

with dwarves?

alexanderpas

or start a stupid dwarf trick.

JavadocMD

Build a massive dark tower and post the 3D-rendered results when you're done in a year or two.

Arda Xi

can't 3D render DF yet

Isometric, sure, but not true 3D

radp

"Heroically Fun Siege?"

JavadocMD

20:20

I meant "3D" rather loosely.

Arda Xi

:136620 Hidden Fun Surprise

C. Ross

or Hidden Fun Stuff

Arda Xi

I prefer Hidden Fun Surprises Inc.

C. Ross

shakes head clowns ...

alexanderpas

honks nose

C. Ross

20:23

clowns are df slang for SPOILER

JavadocMD

Looks like Sinoth's 3dwarf made some progress: sinoth.net/blog/finished-projects/3dwarf-v1

alexanderpas

most important question... does it run with DF2010?

Ivo Flipse

20:39

buzz @tzenes

LessPop_MoreFizz

I would answer that Ginormo sword question, but honestly, an answer of 'Grind More' is two words long and doesn't really help matters, no matter how true it is (especially of ginormo sword)

Arda Xi

:136638 no

alexanderpas

:136660 Grind more, yes, but for how long, tips etc. etc. etc.

LessPop_MoreFizz

The answer in Ginormo Sword is always simply 'more'.

The game is basically Progress Quest except you left click a whole lot.

and there is no problem that is not surmountable by simply grinding until your sword is the size of the entire screen.

The only way to truly 'beat' the game involves making ever increasingly complicated auto-hotkey scripts to do all your left clicking for you while you go to sleep or work or do various other things that are not playing Ginormo Sword.

tzenes

20:59

@Ivo

how's it going?

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