The Bridge

agent86

17:00

@fbueckert amen. we've got to keep our non-productive behavior on the QT.

Eugene

:)

badp

so according to Navteq traffic in London is currently uniformly shitty

RESPAWN

I long for the days of the Boss Button...

fbueckert

@RESPAWN Boss buttons don't work so well with multiplayer games.

badp

@RESPAWN do you really? I've seen the final boss fight in Inferno, it lasted 28 minutes and was completely absolutely boring

and the drops sucked terribly bad

agent86

17:02

@badp wat?

fbueckert

@badp That's not a boss button.

agent86

Boss key

A boss key or boss button is a special keyboard shortcut used in computer games or other programs to quickly hide the program and possibly display a special screen that appears to be a normal productivity program (such as a spreadsheet application). One of the earliest implementations was by Friendlyware, a suite of entertainment and general interest programs written in BASIC and sold with the original IBM AT and XT computers from 1982 to 1985. When activated (by pressing F10), an ASCII bar graph with generic "Productivity" and "Time" labels appeared. Pressing F10 again would return to...

badp

@fbueckert Doesn't the boss button get you a boss fight?

@agent86 oh, duh.

fbueckert

@badp Agent beat me to it.

agent86

and I'm surprised wikipedia actually has an article about this

fbueckert

17:03

Today's boss button is usually alt-tab

badp

@agent86 I'm surprised when Wikipedia doesn't have an article about stuff

agent86

@fbueckert I like opening the steam overlay.

badp

@agent86 web browser is work?

agent86

the kids haven't yet figured out that the web browser with the black background is actually daddy's ultra-violent game

RESPAWN

Thanks for clarifying that for me, @agent86. Ironically, my boss had just poked his head in the door.

fbueckert

17:04

@agent86 Yet is the keyword in there.

badp

@agent86 they have and they just don't tell you

agent86

@badp this is acceptable.

@fbueckert yet is always the key word with kids :p

fbueckert

@agent86 There are some conversations you just don't want to have with your children.

agent86

stupid, delicious slice of pizza, making me type one-handed

fbueckert

Why you're hacking bodies and laughing maniacally is probably one of them.

RESPAWN

17:07

@fbueckert Just tell them that the bodies are zombies. Problem solved.

fbueckert

@RESPAWN Zombies! Today's answer for any moral conundrum you come across.

Killing someone? They're a zombie!

Dumpster diving? Hiding from a zombie!

RESPAWN

Eating somebody's face? Zombie!

agent86

@fbueckert thus I always have an innocuous browser window handy. I just really like the google home page.

fbueckert

Running over the neighbor's kid several times because he graffitied your car? He was infected!

@agent86 With the fun stuff that Google does, a legitimate argument could be made for this.

badp

"I'm refreshing Google every day waiting for when Google puts up the zombie doodle."

tiddy

17:15

I don't really want to ask proper question, has any skyrim player here experienced a Pickpocket mission job that had a 0% chance of success, regardless of level

agent86

@tiddy I suppose this is possible, I did not do pickpocket missions cause they sucked.

numbers jobs are where it's at

tiddy

Yeah, this was my first(and now last) one

agent86

and heist jobs

tiddy

MEH

Sterno

SpaceVenture is now at 9 Kickstarter updates in 2 days

hate

tiddy

17:17

Sushi time. Gonna get business drunk

agent86

@Sterno unsubscribe!

@tiddy woot. enjoy.

fbueckert

@Sterno I would've blocked that email address by this point.

Sterno

@agent86 What if they send an important one at the end, like "Pick which version of the game you want"

agent86

@Sterno those are different than the updates.

Sterno

Oh. EXCELLENT

agent86

17:18

(at least they were with other projects)

yeah, it was "Response Needed!" instead of "project update #hojillion"

hmm, braid, super meat boy, and lone survivor added to the already insane humble bundle...

Oak

New upcoming website name and logo!

10

Lazers

10

Q: Introducing Arqade!

We recently have put a lot of effort in coming up with a unique brand name for this community. As you know, naming is hard! After numerous brain storming sessions, we found a great name(and was able to obtain the domain name). It was suggested in a community chat session, and "Arqade" was chosen....

Jin

i'm scared. please be gentle, i'm fragile.

agent86

well, glad they found something they liked :) I wasn't all that optimistic about our chances of finding something via community brainstorming, but it looks like it worked out, despite my grumpiness :P

Oak

@Jin I have just one complaint, but it's a very very big one

agent86

17:25

@Jin shhh, it's OK. no matter what they say, I'll still <3 you.

Jin

@Oak i kept your lazers, what else could you possibly want?

Oak

@Jin in the new logo there's a small upside-down blue V at the bottom of the ship. Have you considered coloring it red or yellow, instead?

Ronan Forman

@Oak Booooo!!!!

Jin

@Oak red is definitely a possibility

i'm really just pitching the bigger concept here. i don't mind tweaking subtle details.

Oak

@Jin I know I was just messing with you regarding a big complaint :) I'm very fond of your direction, this tiny thing is the only complaint I could think of.

Jin

17:27

i may have to adjust the contrast and coloring some on the logo, since a few people(within SE) think it's hard to read, while others don't have a problem with it

agent86

Ronan Forman

Does this mean we can have the old twitter handle?

Oak

2

badp

@Jin yeah, the 'sponsorship' example makes it look like you can't just downscale the logo... but hey, I'm liking everything else.

(and the bluer wings might just be a little too blue, and the Q kinda looks like a D, but I'm sure you've already head all of that)

Jin

@badp right. but i think eventually when Arqade's brand power grows, we can simply show the outline of the ship, then people know it's Arqade

badp

17:30

@Jin That does sound like a plan

Jin

but that sponsorship mockup may not be the best example..

we've contacted a few WoW guilds about sponsorship. they actually provided a much bigger area than what I showed in my mockup.

badp

@Jin just use the WB logo there then

Jin

e.g. the entire lower left chat box area etc

Ronan Forman

Are you allowed to the best site?

fbueckert

@Jin If we have lazers, shouldn't it look like the galaga shots, to keep with the theme?

badp

17:34

would a Q like this look too bad?

Jin

@badp i think it breaks the symmetry

badp

I'm kinda concerned that the logo might be read ARDADE.

@Jin fair enough!

FAE

Aw, I'm really going to miss the heart

badp

@FAE Well at least jealous SOs* will no longer think this site is a dating one!

(*if any)

Jin

@badp oh it's still about dating, in space.

badp

17:37

> Braid, Super Meat Boy, and Lone Survivor Added to Humble Indie Bundle V!

FAE

@badp Oh hey, a single game I don't own already

badp

@FAE me too, me too.

FAE

@badp Or BFs!

badp

> If you've already purchased the bundle, then Braid, Super Meat Boy, and Lone Survivor are already on your download page! If you haven't bought Humble Indie Bundle V yet, set your price higher than the average to get these excellent games in addition to Psychonauts, LIMBO, Amnesia: The Dark Descent, Superbrothers: Sword & Sworcery EP, and Bastion!

2

↑ and this is why you need to buy HIBs sooner rather than later

agent86

@badp REPOSTTTTS

19 mins ago, by agent86

hmm, braid, super meat boy, and lone survivor added to the already insane humble bundle...

badp

17:39

@agent86 with CONNTENNNTS

agent86

@badp OMG, you should've totally read all ~600k messages to make sure it wasn't something we'd seen already, you not-reader-of-history you!

badp

@agent86 I think I've read more of the ~600k messages than most others :P

agent86

@badp no excuses!

start at the beginning, and when you get to the end, stop.

FAE

@Jin I do agree with @badp though that the little part that makes a Q a Q is rather hard to see at smaller size and at a distance.

Jin

@FAE thanks. i'll tweak it some.

Ronan Forman

17:41

Blegh at the badges.

fbueckert

@agent86 Mod-fight! Grabs popcorn and watches

badp

also

wtf is all that crap at the bottom

@RonanForman uh I guess Jin isn't going to use those badges? They are indeed a bit out of theme.

agent86

@badp I have no idea what game that is even. it looks like Colored Bar Fight 2: The Brightly Colored Bar Fight of Destiny.

fbueckert

@badp Mods and addons. Basically must-have extensions for end-game play.

Jin

@badp not set on that

agent86

17:43

identify-this-colorful-bar

FAE

@badp Aw, I didn't realize we'd be losing our coins

badp

@fbueckert I'm especially curious on the stuff bottom-right, if you can make sense of it. Looks like health-mana bars of the party?

RESPAWN

So, I've got half of the games in the HIB, which is making me wonder if $7.88 is worth it for the other half...

badp

@RESPAWN how can you only have half of the games? did you only buy it now?

agent86

@badp I think he's saying "I have previously purchased half of the games"

RESPAWN

17:45

@agent86 This

agent86

@RESPAWN which half don't you have?

some of those I'd pay $8 for

RESPAWN

limbo, superbrothers, amnesia, and lone survivor

i'm wondering if that's worth the money

James

@badp Its the raid grid UI thing

badp

heh, the name of the additional games in the bundle on steam is "Humble Indie Blunde 8 Moar Stuff"

RESPAWN

Would I be able to gift the ones that I do have to other friends?

agent86

17:46

@RESPAWN nah, you're not supposed to

I think they give you one steam code for the whole bundle

(+1 for the additions)

RESPAWN

and that's fine too

badp

@RESPAWN you get one key for LIMBO, Amnesia, Sword & Sworcery and Psychonauts;one key for Super Meat Boy, Lone Survivor and Braid; and finally one key for Bastion.

So you'd only be able to give away the Bastion key anyway

agent86

@RESPAWN I don't know... I probably wouldn't plunk down for those, but I'm in a similar situation, where I own most of the "headliners" already.

RESPAWN

Actually, I think that people like me who randomly like to buy games tend to end up in an odd position with the bundles now

Too often, I already have one or more of the games

badp

Remember that Steam on Linux will launch "later this year" valve time™

agent86

17:48

yeah, I'm waiting for the summer sale. maybe july 4th weekend?

badp

(and all HIB games are ported to Linux)

RESPAWN

indeed

badp

Basically the launch roster for Steam on Linux is going to be Valve games + all HIBs ever

agent86

I've got a $50 credit on my steam account, and a hit list to take care of.

badp

and maybe the odd quake 3/doom 2 entry here and there

RESPAWN

17:49

Although I don't see myself running Linux on anything that I use for gaming anytime soon.

badp

@RESPAWN gaming's really the only reason why I use or have Windows

RESPAWN

@agent86 How on earth do you get a credit on your Steam account? Or is it better if I don't know?

badp

...well, gaming and maybe Powerpoint

@RESPAWN You only need Steam Wallet funds if you buy items from ingame transactions

RESPAWN

@badp Agreed. If it weren't for gaming, I'd be fine with just about any OS.

agent86

@badp driver support's probably going to be a bitch on linux for a while, regardless of steam

badp

17:51

@agent86 with an nVidia card I'm supposed to be lucky

agent86

@RESPAWN the mrs. does these survey things and gets $25 gamestop cards as a result, which she gives to me, which I took to gamestop and bought a steam wallet code.

badp

and then the minimum amount of money you can charge on a Steam Wallet is $/€/£ 5

RESPAWN

@agent86 You probably know better than I, but it seems to me like Linux has gotten a lot better these days. Certainly better than back in the day when I spent a week trying to get the Linux 3D drivers to work on my Voodoo 3 3000.

agent86

@badp I've just played the desktop linux game on several occasions, and the sticking point is almost always drivers for desktop hardware

RESPAWN

@agent86 You know, aside from the whole getting pregnant all the time thing, you really do have a good wife. :-P

agent86

17:52

@RESPAWN hah. I'll tell her you said that, or at least paraphrase...

badp

@agent86 well driver recognition has for years worked better on Linux than Windows out of necessity

fbueckert

@badp Yeah. It's a healer's overlay. Keep track of everybody all at once.

badp

I say "for years" because Windows 8's plan to move all driver installation to Windows Update means Windows will now install all the drivers for you, no questions asked. It even discovered and configured the network printer by itself

agent86

@RESPAWN yeah, it's the desktop part that tends to get people. stuff like wireless cards, bleeding edge graphics cards, etc.

Ronan Forman

So yeah, Stackgaming is getting a twitter account.

James

17:53

@badp And that guy in the back is playing Galaga, didn't think we would notice, but we did.

badp

@RonanForman You can change nicknames on Twitter, yknow

I dunno about Google+, certainly not on Steam though

RESPAWN

@badp You know, these days when somebody around your age talks about alternatives to Windows, I'm genuinely surprised when they are speaking of Linux and not OSX. That's a compliment, btw. :-P

Ronan Forman

@badp Yes, so @Stackgaming will be free!

badp

@RESPAWN OSX requires dedicated hardware I don't have so where's your surprise?

Lazers

0

Q: How do I find the ? switch to activate all the other ? Blocks in Super Mario 64 DS?

Where is the ? switch that activates all the ? blocks in the game? Someone tell me how to find it!!!

mario-series super-mario-64-ds

fbueckert

17:55

@Lazers Gut reaction says to kill this. But it really should be rewritten.

badp

@RESPAWN eh, just consider this. When TF2 will launch on Linux there's going to be a hat for it (think the infamous buds). I think there shall be a lot of "Linux players" that day.

RESPAWN

@badp Maybe my perspective is a bit skewed since I work in the advertising industry, but most of the younger/college age people I meet these days are all "OMGMACS!!!1ONE!"

fbueckert

And reading the comments does not endear me to him.

agent86

@badp there's certainly a chicken and egg problem with linux gaming; perhaps steam will prime the pump, so to speak.

fredley

@RonanForman Where did you go?

agent86

17:56

I don't know what the effect of OSX steam has been on OSX gaming, though, outside of my own personal experiences

Ronan Forman

@fredley New VGHS!

fredley

@RonanForman ...

badp

@agent86 Well I think Steam might find itself cornered anyway. What if Windows 12 does away with x86/x64 support on the customer segment and goes all in with ARM-like applicance lockdown?

Linux is the place where Steam just cannot be kicked away from.

Strategically it might be dangerous to continue relying on Windows and Mac allowing you to be in their respecting walled gardens for years to come

agent86

@badp ehh, I mean, I know we're headed towards more "app store" style computing, but I don't really see that a major trend towards locking windows down... I mean, it took them probably 10-15 years worth of windows to finally remove DOS mode

badp

Also, Steam on Linux allows you going forward to package everything into a box and sell it as a console.

@agent86 I don't see an app-store-only Windows 12 as such a far fetched reality

agent86

18:01

@badp mkay, I can't really argue with crystal ball gazing, so I'm not going to try :P

badp

Even that is probably going to be enough to kill Steam on Windows (or Mac)

since games still need installing and stuff

James

@badp Maybe not far fetched but very hard to believe it would actually happen with out litigation

badp

@James I said and should've repeated - "customer segment"

although Microsoft is certainly pushing Metro for the enterprise too, I just can't imagine any enterprise OS having any kind of walled garden lock down

how would you run a website or a database server on that thing?

@fbueckert Comments pruned

fbueckert

@badp ...did he just re-edit it and break the grammar again?

badp

@fbueckert shhh, I accidentally a revision

agent86

18:06

facepalm how many edits does this question need?

I feel like I should get in there and edit it just to say I did :P

fbueckert

@agent86 Apparently as many as it takes for him to get the answer he wants.

agent86

whoa, something big is happening on steam...

badp

@agent86 wat

King Arthur 75% off? That's definitely not what I expected

agent86

@badp yeah, I just have an RSS feed that notifies me when something goes on sale, and it was at like 170 new entries. usually means some big steam sale

badp

@agent86 yeah, all Paradox games 50% off

agent86

18:09

@badp indeed.

fbueckert

@agent86 Summer sale starting early or something?

agent86

not terribly exciting for me :(

@fbueckert nah, publisher sale

badp

and "Magicka" is listed as "FREE DEMO"

fbueckert

@badp Paradox sale...Hmm, may have to look at that.

badp

it's no surprise that page isn't loading after all

agent86

18:11

a store-wide sale will probably be more like thousands of price changes every day.

RESPAWN

I actually dread the Steam summer sales and the effect they have on my wallet.

I got lucky during the holiday sales and spent several days on vacation.

fbueckert

@RESPAWN I have games I bought last year that I have yet to even download.

RESPAWN

@fbueckert Same here. Overall I have something like 135 games on Steam, and I've probably only played half of them.

Maybe only 1/4 to completion.

agent86

I've made a concerted effort this year to at least try all my steam library games

FAE

@RESPAWN hides her Steam list :(

agent86

18:17

it's been going pretty well thus far

RESPAWN

@agent86 I've actually been thinking about starting a blog about playing all of my games for at least a short period. That would give me some motivation to work through them, at least.

agent86

...although I've found that I've paid for a lot of crap :(

tiddy

Noble effort

agent86

@RESPAWN yeah, I did that for a little while, and was kinda successful.

fbueckert

@agent86 It helps when there's someone else playing it; you keep each other going.

FAE

18:22

@RESPAWN We do accept game diaries on the Gaming blog :)

agent86

@fbueckert I'd recruit co-blogger @EBongo to the cause, but he's PC-gaming averse.

RESPAWN

@fbueckert I've tried that a few times, but it usually falls apart when I get sucked into EVE for a week or so and/or end up going out drinking for 3 or 4 nights in a row.

fbueckert

@agent86 And I'm sort of stuck in D3 right now; no interest in other games.

Jin

@FAE "Dear Extra Health + Shielding + Invul Minion + Health Link Champion, You're a big meannie."

RESPAWN

@FAE Oh yeah? I'll have to keep that in mind. Thanks for the heads up.

fbueckert

18:23

@Jin These are some of my favorites; no damage patches, so I can stand there and take it.

agent86

@fbueckert this is my current state. I tend to get "stuck" on a game for a while, and then I come unstuck and chew through a whole bunch at once

FAE

@RESPAWN Yep! Let me know if you don't have a WordPress account and we can ping Ivo to get you set up.

fbueckert

And Invul minion doesn't spawn on champions. :P

Jin

@fbueckert i forgot to include "Reflect Damage," those are the worst for my DH

agent86

fbueckert

18:24

@Jin Your most hated are my most loved. It means I don't have to run around to kill them.

Lazers

2

Q: Reflect Damage Skills (Not Monster)

Can someone explain how damage reflection works? In other words: if a monster would normally hit for 100 and I have 20% damage reflect: monster takes 20, I take 100, then the 100 is reduced based upon stats monster takes 20, I take 80, then the 80 is reduces based upon stats 100 is reduced by ...

diablo-3

0

Q: What carries over to New Game Plus?

What carries over to New Game+ when loading from Clear Data after a finished game?

atelier-meruru

0

Q: Can enderman hold items?

Is there any probability that an Enderman can pick up an item/blocks that are lying on the ground? I was going to test this myself but I don't think I would be able find the answer unless I look into the code, which I can't do nor understand.

minecraft

Jin

@fbueckert you must play a barb.

fbueckert

@Jin Monk.

agent86

yay, my second great answer badge!

fbueckert

~60% dodge, with mantra.

agent86

18:25

and no birds were harmed in the making of this one :P

RESPAWN

@FAE Thanks. If I decide to start this little project, I'll definitely let you know.

FAE

Awesome. :)

aways for dinner

RESPAWN

Silly Dutch and having their dinner at such odd times... ;)

agent86

I should really do up a blog post on something.

fbueckert

@badp Wow, that guy really doesn't like others editing his question.

badp

18:29

@fbueckert Well, he's not doing a rollback war still.

And the current revision looks okay.

agent86

I'll laugh if it goes CW

fbueckert

Hey, anyone else here play Gust's games?

Jin

^ end of Act1

agent86

@Jin dat boss

would be epic if they had a sign out front that read "AAAH, FRESH MEAT"

JerryRox

hello?

fbueckert

18:39

@JerryRox Yes?

JerryRox

Sup

I see some1 here has a shy guy pic

fbueckert

Not much.

Yeah, that's @Krazer

JerryRox

I like Shy Guy

fbueckert

And for future reference, spelling is a good thing.

It's someone, not some1.

JerryRox

google.com/…

Eugene

18:41

Darn it. I can't do a screenshot from diablo 3

fbueckert

@Eugene Print screen should dump it into your clipboard.

Eugene

Nope :(

agent86

@Eugene I think we have a question about this...

JerryRox

Sorry.

Krazer isn't on now?

agent86

8

Q: How do I take a screenshot?

I've tried using print screen, but it seems to grab the window behind Diablo rather than the game. Is there some in-game hotkey to take a screenshot, or some other method that will work?

diablo-3

fbueckert

18:42

@JerryRox He's in the bridge, here, but he's probably at work or something.

agent86

although I personally just run the game via non-steam shortcut, and use the steam overlay

JerryRox

Uh.. How do you do what agent86 did

fbueckert

@JerryRox That's a onebox.

Linking to stackexchange questions and answers automatically oneboxes it.

JerryRox

What is a onebox

agent86

@JerryRox many URLs get replaced with their contents

JerryRox

18:43

.....

So confusing

agent86

I just copied and pasted the URL of the question, and the chat did the rest.

JerryRox

just a sec...

fbueckert

@JerryRox SOME links get oneboxed. Not nearly everything does, though.

JerryRox

1

Q: How can I get a higher score in Metal Torrent?

I was playing Metal Torrent and I noticed that there was an online leaderboard. I was ranked in the 6000s. Can anyone give me tips on how to get a higher score, and possibly get a higher rank in the online ranks?

metal-torrent

This question hasn't been answered and i need an answer. I don't want to start a bounty, because I don't want to lose my reputation.

fbueckert

@JerryRox If someone here played it, it would probably have an answer.

JerryRox

18:46

I:(

aw man

fbueckert

@JerryRox Have you tried other sites?

JerryRox

what other sites

@fbueckert and why is this chat so slow???

Anyway....

Do you have a 3DS?

fbueckert

@JerryRox Nope.

JerryRox

Crud!!!

Do you have any type of portable gaming system?

fbueckert

DS. PSP. Android phone.

JerryRox

18:50

@fbueckert Ok. What games do you have?

For the DS?

fbueckert

@JerryRox Why?

JerryRox

@fbueckert Because, if we have the same game, maybe we can exchange friend codes, if the game has a friend code system thing

hello?

...

TylerShads

Its a big frickin deal :)

JerryRox

ok..

GnomeSlice

Super Meat Boy, Braid, and Lone Survivor, no less.

Was just coming in here to exclaim.

TylerShads

18:58

That and my disappointment for how terrible Quinn's revenge was :(

@GnomeSlice WELL I BEAT YA TOO IT (+500 dexterity points)

fbueckert

@JerryRox I don't play my ds games online.

JerryRox

Crud

ok

fbueckert

@TylerShads Wasn't this already pointed out?

TylerShads

@fbueckert was it? I can be very slow sometimes

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