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@Wipqozn Indeed.
@FAE I feel like a lot of the people who used to hang around here have kinda been phased out and replaced with a new generation of Bridgers.
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@Mana Yeah, I've been thinking about that as well lately
Arda was pretty right when he said that this place isn't the same as it used to be. I mean, I don't really mind it, but it's just not the Bridge I fell in love with.
But I guess I shouldn't be discussing this.
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@Mana If I ever saw you on Steam, I'd ruminate with you on this
@Mana They have been. I've only been here for ~year now, and it's nothing like it was when I first joined.
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Can someone tell me why this question got closed as a duplicate to "What're the Pros and Cons in having repeated class in the same party"? I was quite interested in a good answer for this one
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Q: In a party with more than one monk, how do mantras work together?

Drake Possible Duplicate: What're the Pros and Cons in having repeated class in the same party? Monk Mantra descriptions say "Only one Mantra can be active at a single time". But if we build a party with more than one monk, is it possible get the effect of more Mantras? If two monks use ...

It seems to be asking about how a specific skill works with multiples of the same class, not the pros and cons of having more than one monk in the game
@Rachel Because it was a duplicate. The other question/answers cover that question.
> There is one consideration though: you don't want the duplicated classes to be using the same abilities (very likely at lower levels). Duplicate copies of the same buff will not stack with each other, but will instead reset the duration of the effect.
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A: What're the Pros and Cons in having repeated class in the same party?

Raven DreamerAs stated in the question about class roles, here, each class is designed to function as an independent unit. This means that you are not penalized for having more than one of the same class. What you might gain, however, is highly variable, dependent on what classes you're stacking. Multiple m...

@Wipqozn I don't think it does... the things to consider is do the same mantras stack, do different mantras stack, does the on-cast effects stack, and does the rune effect stack
Which are all specific to the Monk's Mantras
@Rachel All that is covered by Raven's answer.
None of this information is covered in Raven's answer except that duplicate copies of the same buff will not stack
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@Rachel Which is why we leave comments on answers to help people shape them into what we need. :)
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@FAE I don't understand.... why would something listing the pros/cons of playing with the same class also list details about same-skill effects?
@Rachel IT is currently lacking, yes, but that's because the answers there are incomplete.
Wouldn't it be better to have a separate question which deals with same-skill effects, such as runes, on-cast effects, and which one wins if multiple ones are stronger, etc?
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@Rachel Because that's information that is relevant?
@FAE Once again, I don't like the idea of building one big long answer containing all the details I could possibly want for something like this.... the point of Q&A seems to be to get direct answers to a direct question
This seems like you want one big answer written as a manual, then close all related questions as duplicates with a Read-The-Manual link
I dunno, I'm kind of siding with Rachel here. I don't think we should close this question as a dupe just because the answer kind of covers the material.
The question itself isn't really a dupe.
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@Mana I disagree. The duplicate is a subset of the original question. The original question may be too broad, as @Rachel suggests, but that's a problem with the original question. The duplicate is still a duplicate.
@Wipqozn I don't agree with that, but oh well its your site
@Rachel You have 2k rep. It's your site too.
I would not expect to look for questions that tell the pros/cons of having same-class party members to provide an in-depth detailed description of how stacking party buffs work
@Wipqozn I can't vote to close or reopen
@Rachel doesn't mean you don't have a say in how the site runs. Everyone has a say, regardless of how much rep you have.
le dupe (subset):
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Q: Where is Act 3's Blaze of Glory event?

SeanThe best I can surmise for its location is that it's on a bridge somewhere. Which bridge, and when is it available?

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@Rachel Which is why we closed things as a duplicate. You search for the duplicate question, and then that leads you to the original.
@Rachel Also, in what way don't you agree with what I said?
@IanPugsley ooh, although the currently accepted answer doesn't cover Sean's question yet.
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Q: Will Hardcore characters be gone forever if they die in PvP?

SirCobaltI know the PvP aspect of D3 has yet to be released, but when it is, will Hardcore characters be able to compete (they don't have access to the real money auction house, so I was curious)? And if they are able to, if they die, will they be gone forever similar to campaign play? Thanks!

This is asking how something might work in the future
@Rachel We could open up dupe questions for each class and ask "do class abilities stack", but the answer would always be the same.
@Wipqozn I disagree that a question asking about the specifics of how multiple mantras work together is a duplicate of a question asking about the pros and cons of having the same classes group togeter
@Mana it's also CW
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@IanPugsley o true
@Rachel I do agree that the phrasing of the answer is better for folks that only care about Monk, but this is just my understanding of the dupe policy.
I've edited the question to try and clarify the differences, and what I hope the answers will provide
@Rachel I like your edit. I'll vote to re-open.
I can't vote to reopen yet, so I hope others will :)
Got to go, but I'll check back later.
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@Wipqozn Thank you, I was quite interested in learning the answer to that question. I posted one answer, but realized I never thought about other aspects of the skill :)
@Mana missing old friends is always fine :) this is the nature of communities on the internet, though. there's a steady stream of burnout, drama, and turnover.
I just drag my friends along for the ride wherever I go
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@agent86 My problem is that I end up with friends from very disparate corners of the internet
@FAE yeah, this happens. sometimes I find that my old friends don't really like whatever new community I'm part of
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@agent86 Right. I'd love if all my friends were in chat/forum/whatever but some people either just don't like migrating or aren't into the new place or whatever. A lot of my guildmates I hang out with every day online, but they're just not into the website here.
@agent86 this is also the nature of communities IRL
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I wish my conversion rate for the site here was higher. :( Most of my friends just don't really care about the rep aspect at all, and some even find it a bit of a turnoff.
is this question clearer now with the example? people seem to be misunderstanding what i"m asking:
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Q: What happens if two people with the same Battle Tag are on my friends list or in my game?

agent86"Battle tags" are used for identification among Diablo 3 players, and they are not unique. When you pick your battle tag, you are assigned a random 4-digit number to go at the end of it, such as: EliteD00d#1234 However, on my friends list and when I'm in-game, this suffix is not displayed ...

@FAE yeah, I have a bunch of things I keep on top of that keep me in touch with old acquaintances. I'm typically in about 4-5 IRC channels, monitoring a half dozen feeds, twitter, raptr, in addition to this chat room here and XBL
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@agent86 Haha yeah, use screen sessions for using irssi and bitlbee so I can have all my stuff for IRC and chat in one window. Still kind of hate that I have to have a browser open for this. >_>
@FAE Then show them the utility of the site :) I love the fact I can ask questions I have and get fast answers, or find great answers that already exist that outline the specific details
@FAE yeah, at some point perhaps I'll figure out how to bridge this to IRC. I think it's mainly just a set of RSS feeds, but the authentication is weird and not at all documented
George Edison did it at one point, so I know it's possible
then again, I'm kind of attached to the interface now :P
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@Rachel Some of them feel like "Why should I use it when I can just google and get the answer?" and to an outside user, it seems like getting rep is the only "bonus" to use the site, and they don't care about rep. It's a game they don't care to play, essentially. :/
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@FAE And they're missing out on free TVs
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@Sterno Hahaha yeah
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Q: Will Hardcore characters be gone forever if they die in PvP?

SirCobaltI know the PvP aspect of D3 has yet to be released, but when it is, will Hardcore characters be able to compete (they don't have access to the real money auction house, so I was curious)? And if they are able to, if they die, will they be gone forever similar to campaign play? Thanks!

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Q: What changes were made to Boon of Protection? How will it impact Hell/Inferno Monks?

StephenA lot of monks have been getting by using the Mantra of Healing with the Boon of Protection rune, especially in Hell and Inferno (though it seems to be less effective in Inferno Act II). How has it changed and what is the impact on a Hell/Inferno Monk? Why is this change necessary?

I think of the 5 or 6 people I convinced to try out this site due to the ME3 contest, only one stuck around. And him, barely.
@agent86 That auto-comment script keeps losing my Gaming.SE-specific comments and defaulting back to the original
@Lazers I'm curious about questions like this. Does it only count as speculation if someone doesn't have an answer from the dev to quote?
i.e., can we only know it's off-topic due to lack of an answer?
@Sterno I think it's using some local storage on your browser, so you'll want to not clear that out
@Sterno I was asking myself the same question. It's a weird gray area of the "speculation" category
there have been times where people asked "why did they do X?" and they've explicitly said why, or times when people ask "will they do X?" and they've explicitly stated their plans
I think it's kind of bad to say that whether or not a question gets closed depends on its answer
but at the same time, I don't think people would really understand if we were closing questions that had valid, sourced answers
@agent86 those are kinda nasty, but it isn't really the same here
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@IanPugsley eh, it's pretty squarely in the second category. "When they release this feature they've not yet released, will it work like this?"
if someone asked when a game is coming out, and they had a tentative answer from the dev, it would be unquestionably off-topic
@agent86 until it actually comes out, PVP itself is speculation
oh oh, you're agreeing with me. I'm sorry
yes, I agree with that :P
I thought you were saying "no, this question is fine and not at all speculative"
@agent86 lol nope
100% the opposite :P
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Q: Can we just download diablo (legally?)

Jim ThioI mean it's online game right? Does blizzard allow people to just buy the game online?

wat
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@murgatroid99 I... think they're asking about digital downloads for purchasing?
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@FAE that's kind of what it looks like. But why didn't they just check?
@murgatroid99 Yes. Yes. Problem solved! Give me your upvotes!
@murgatroid99 ...this guy has double my reputation on SO
@murgatroid99 I would assume they did, and couldn't find anything.
I don't see anything wrong with the question, anyhow.
13:47
Gosh, if there are more questions like this I could actually win something from the contest without ever having played Diablo 3
@IanPugsley I have almost double his
@GnomeSlice Well, the answer is literally yes and yes, with two minutes of Googling
@GnomeSlice zero research effort
I'm sure we can accept simple questions. but the "too simple" line has to be drawn somewhere
@murgatroid99 You don't know that.
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I realize I might be the only one who cares about this, but the Mars rover, Opportunity, is moving again!
@GnomeSlice It looks like he didn't even check Blizzard's store before asking us what they sell
@murgatroid99 I'm just saying, he's got 1.3k rep on SO - he isn't dumb
@IanPugsley Wouldn't know it from that question.
one thing I'm not sure about is whether he meant Diablo, which is not in Blizzard's store, or D3, which is
@fbueckert hence my confusion
13:51
They say that first impressions are important. He's given us the impression he's very lazy.
@IanPugsley he has 304 questions on SO. That's less than one upvote per question
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Q: Why do I got error when I create 2 commands on SQL in vb.net

Jim ThioShould I use using? Private Sub btntest_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles btntest.Click If sqlConnection.State = ConnectionState.Closed Then sqlConnection.Open() End If Dim query = "Select * from tablebusiness" ...

What. The. Frack.
No wonder he has such crazy writing. He's a help vampire
@fbueckert As I said, 304 questions. A dozen answers
@FAE woo SCIENCE
He just commented on the question here and I have no idea what he means
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@murgatroid99 I was holding off on the downvote, but after that comment, BAM
@EBongo @fbueckert Get some Gravatars already!
...He's commenting that it takes as much time to get to hell difficulty as it does to find out his answer.
@Sterno I still haven't downvoted. Mostly because if it is about Diablo 1, then there might actually be a valid question in there
What is this, I don't even...
@Sterno Unhappy with my generic, stock image? :P
@murgatroid99 I'm not sure how that affects whether or not it's a good question. The answer is still "Visit Blizzard.com"
@fbueckert I thought he might be responding to my comment. Which would make it even more stupid
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@agent86 I am very excited :)
@Sterno I certainly wouldn't have known that. What makes you think everyone else should?
@GnomeSlice You wouldn't think to look at the website of the company selling the game to see if the company sells the game online?
@Sterno They don't sell Diablo 1. It took me about 3 minutes to find that out after I saw the question, but if someone else does sell it online then I don't know
@Sterno I'm not familiar with Blizzard at all, the only reason I know the name 'blizzard' is because everyone won't shut up about it.
Oh, and shameless plug. I did actual research, instead of playing Diablo 3:
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A: How do I find items with the right level to salvage particular ingredients?

fbueckertAs per my answer on a different question. I am surmising that the materials provided are based off of the item's required level. Hypothesis Salvage materials are based off of required level, as detailed on the item itself. Testing Methodology Gather items at the high and low end level rang...

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@GnomeSlice He shows in the question that he knows who Blizzard is
@GnomeSlice Well, you and I have very rarely if ever agreed on what makes for a good question, so I'm not terribly surprised we disagree here either. No sense arguing about it. :)
@GnomeSlice On top of that, his question is still vague and confusing
@Sterno :P
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Q: How can I heal my villagers?

John the GreenI'm using MineColony to get some useful NPCs. When they first spawned, their bars overhead all said 20 hp, but now, most are down to 10 hp or less. I don't want my workers to die. How can I get their health back up?

Isn't this too localized? He's asking about a specific mod.
No, why?
I think it needs different tags, at least.
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@GnomeSlice That's no more localized than asking about a specific game
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Q: Multiplayer is forcing spectator

MatthewSome friends and I tried for 20+ minutes to get a team deathmatch on Call of Duty 3 Modern Warfare going. For some reason, the first three to choose their class would be playing and the fourth person would be a spectator. We ended the game and started again tons of times, trying everything from "...

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Q: Can we just download diablo (legally?)

Jim ThioI mean it's online game right? Does blizzard allow people to just buy the game online?

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Q: How can I get close captions or subtitles in Portal?

EllaI would like to enable Czech subtitles in Portal. Is that possible? How to do it?

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Q: Is it really worth it the blacksmith?

Antonio MGI've been training my blacksmith as far as I can for my current level (Im now Act 1 Nightmare, 34), I keep putting money and money on it,and I've barely used it! Wouldn't it be better to take all that money I spend training, sell objects instead of giving it to him, and buy something nice in the...

@Mana Oh lord, bro. That Dirk Strider has a crazy stylus, yo..
@murgatroid99 I disagree, but it's probably fine.
@FAE I'm continually surprised they've lasted this long. I sincerely hope we don't give up on space exploration :( NDT for (whatever position would make him in charge of science budgets)!
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@agent86 Haha, indeed, that man is amazing and inspiring.
ok, going to go grab a late lunch and do some errands, later all
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@fbueckert looks like I shouldn't judge a user by their SO score
@FAE see ya
uu: YOu WILL DEPICT.
uu: THE JANE HuMAN.
uu: ON THE RECEIVING END.
uu: OF...
uu: ONE OF YOuR HuMAN KISSES.
TT: Uh.
TT: Ok.
TT: I mean, are you sure you want me to go there?
@RavenDreamer oh god this is great.
@Mana Wait till you get to the last picture.
It will rock your things.
@Mana whatisthisidonteven
@IanPugsley Do you know what level @Spugsley and @OrigamiRobot are?
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@RavenDreamer mid-forties, I think - @spugsley is 44 atm
So, first person to photoshop the above picture and replace "Jake" with "Spugs", Jake's face with spugsley's face, and Roxy's face with Ian's face, gets a star.
you should be able to derive who's who based on the dialogue.
@Mana apparently I am a lady and @spugsley is my baby-eating husband in this scenario?
@IanPugsley yes.
@Mana This is acceptable to me.
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do not even act like this isn't how your marriage went down.
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@Mana it's remarkably accurate
@RavenDreamer So on a more serious note, is future-Dave evil?
@Mana Fine.
that's what I'm getting from that top pic.
@Mana I don't think so. Just devious.
14:13
@Mana Who should I make the little guy?
@RonanForman Wipqozn, clearly
@GnomeSlice Cancer. I'm deleting it.
it is deleted.
WHOA have you guys seen today's Google doodle?
14:16
yeah it's sick eh?
It's a soft-synth!
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@Mana WHY
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh
well there goes my hardcore monk.
that was stupid.
damn haha.
DAPHNE NO. :(
You just killed your girlfriend.
@Mana :(
Good job, hero.
14:19
yeah.
I saw you playing HC last night and it inspired me to get around to starting up my HC Barb
it was really stupid. I tried to run the Crumbling Vault blind without killing any monsters
ran into a dead end
aww man.
I never found the crumbling vault
well, hm.
Should I do another monk?
I really like this class.
For HC, I say play a class you know!
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Yeah.
This is going to be my third monk character though.
k one sec, going through my Greek History book for a new name
@fredley "browsing gaming.se at 3 in the morning"
@Mana I find the tag list far too entertaining
@Mana Which act is that in?
@Wipqozn 2'
okay, gonna go with a male monk named Apollo
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@Mana I have similarly failed to clear the vault :(
@Mana I feel that's the wrong cultural heritage.
@RavenDreamer That's racist.
@IanPugsley Oh, jeez. His profile links to one of those stupid quickie content books.
@Wipqozn No, it isn't.
I'm reading that Life Leech only works at 20% efficiency in Inferno
Sadness
14:28
@RavenDreamer Denial. Always the first step.
user image
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There we go.
Stars alone cannot express the awesome.
@RonanForman Took you long enough, gawd.
@RonanForman Star delivered
@Wipqozn Sorry.
14:29
@fbueckert he's suspended on 2 of the sites he has accounts on...
@IanPugsley gravatar works so well in that picture.
Favorite tags:
Hm.
one of his questions - "is smoking weed a sin"
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Q: How do we know that the guy behind that facebook God page is not a real God?

Jim ThioLook, this is NOT a joking or mocking question. It's serious. http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=288285934592450&set=a.157796790974699.40772.157750900979288&type=1&theater Obviously I sort of know that there is no way God will ever create a face book page. Well, actually I don't...

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@murgatroid99 I don't even.
Reminds me of Gnomeslice's mashed potatoes question.
He really is a help vampire.
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Q: Is Diablo 3 Dodge chance random or consistent?

Mag RoaderOn my Monk, I'm trying to figure out if I would rather do a Dodge build with Dodge-centered Passives and Mantras, or if I should go for more armor and healing. In my mind, it comes down to just how random Dodge is. If I have a 50% dodge rate, which of these is true? Every time I am attacked, I...

I'm not sure there's actual thought processes going on in that head.
@Wipqozn The amusing thing, from my point of view, is that his claim actually is a lot less extraordinary than most claims of what God does.
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@fredley Our first skygrid should be up tomorrow by the way.
@RonanForman Awesome!
How long are you making the episodes?
This one's 30 minutes, but they will vary.
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man it's really nice out today
@FAE I'm off to a Beer festival later :D
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@fredley Haha, nice! Perfect weather for it, if it's anything like here right now (25C).
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@FAE I'm in Cam UK, bit overcast this morning, but it's been brightening all day. Should be a warm, clear evening :-)
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@RonanForman Hahaha oh man
@fredley Awesome, hope you enjoy :D Get home safely!
@FAE I'm quite well practised at drunk cycling...
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@fredley Yay! I think. Is a "yay" appropriate here?
@FAE Sounds ok to me!
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Woo!
@RavenDreamer that does not look like spaghetti sauce... it looks more like strawberry applesauce or something
The power of ellipsis
@GnomeSlice The only thing that makes that related is the picture in the background
@agent86 sauce is sauce
14:44
I actually think that question about smoking weed shouldn't have been closed.
@RavenDreamer well, you're welcome to get touched by a noodly appendage coated in that "sauce" but I'll sit this one out :P
You don't believe in sauce?
Can someone write a userscript to block images by GnomeSlice?
@StrixVaria Ouch.
@StrixVaria You know what makes me think of you?
14:45
Hey, christianity.SE allows why did He do it that way questions.
WE SHOULD TOO.
@GnomeSlice yes, please, adjust the scope of our site to be more like the one I ragequit
@IanPugsley Why did you rage quit?
For the record, I don't actually think we should allow them here.
@Wipqozn because the site is less about expert Q/A for Christianity and more about just being a voicebox for the people I already don't want to interact with
@IanPugsley ah, okay. That's what I was expecting the site to turn into once it launched.
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@Wipqozn me too, I was just hoping otherwise
I don't understand how there's a single site for Christianity, seeing as there are about 50 different churches.
Out of curiosity, where is the "Diablo 3 Acts Leaderboard" that is mentioned in the contest rules? Is that just the contest page?
@RonanForman There are far more than 50 different video games, and yet we have a site.
@GnomeSlice Yes, but knowing about one video game doesn't mean you hate everyone who knows about another.
I'm presuming it is, since it has the list of everybody who's eligible for a prize up there
Well, the prizes from the Acts. The gems don't have that, hmmm
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@YiJiang Ok thanks, it didn't look very "leaderboard"-ish to me so I wasn't sure if it was something different
@GnomeSlice And you wont get a different answer to a question depending on which games you play.
@RonanForman I think most Call of Duty players fall into a category of players I do not want to interact with.
@RonanForman In general, Christians don't automatically hate any other Christian from a different denomination.
@fbueckert Heh, have a star.
@GnomeSlice Do you know of a place called Ireland?
@Rachel I think the only promotion that really had a leaderboard was the Christmas one
14:55
@RonanForman I know of it, yes.
@GnomeSlice There's like a war there.
Also, the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't count.
Sister sites: GodHatesIslam.com, GodHatesTheMedia.com, PriestsRapeBoys.com, etc.
14:57
@RonanForman Protestants vs. Catholics - the Northern Ireland civil war / low level insurgency
@YiJiang That's the one!
@fredley I love all these random users defacing the site.
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Q: If I dodge, absorb, or block an attack, did I get hit?

agent86For some of the "Challenge" achievements, the specific challenge revolves around killing a boss without getting hit, or hit by specific attacks: It occurs to me that loading up on dodge and/or block might save a boss run for this achievement if I get particularly lucky. I'm not sure if this c...

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Q: Where can I find Hunter's Journal Part 2?

CasandI'm having some trouble finding a lore book in Act II - Hunter's Journal Part 2. It's not in my lore list either. Which zone is this particular book found in?

why is the auction house currently unavailable
@fbueckert Really?
14:59
It's a feud that lasted centuries, and in modern times took the form of the IRA planting bombs in Britain and Northern Ireland
@Mana fak u diablo
Is anyone actually buying things for millions of gold on the AH?
Or are those just sellers being greedy and not valuing things properly?
@fredley No, not really. It's sarcasm. It happens on the internet.

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