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reading reddit comment threads is really freaky when you're stoned
who are all these people how are they all talking like this
@RedRiderX bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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@Memor-X I want to love Rhythm style games but they're so hard :(
@RedRiderX That’s actually pretty funny.
@Ash the only ones i've played are Osu and Guitar Hero and they were a bit difficult. i have no idea if Persona 3/5 is anything like Persona 4: Dancing All Night or if either are any different
00:15
I knew Australia had something called "The Emu War" but i didn't know they got rocked this hard by a bunch of birds
lmao holy shit
That article has such a good infobox too
Standard battle format, Australia at the command of Sir George Pearce vs emus at the command of emus, 0 casualties vs 2500 emus but end result emu victory
> I once wrote "gut punch" instead of "git push" in terminal
In a lot of places, it’s illegal to carry a switchblade in public.
cc @Wipqozn @GodEmperorDune @Ash
Yo, does Arqade allow for shopping-style questions?
Not on the main site, no.
ask away in here though
00:28
Yeah, until someone makes a userscript, there's no downvote button here (kidding).
I'm looking for an MMORPG which has good party-level combat
Good progression, minimal grind-fest
Also, kind of hoping for traditional RPG classing and roles
What do you mean by "good party-level combat"? Do you like puzzle bosses, do you prefer challenging rotations?
Path of Exile maybe
Meaning, it's fun to play with a friend for most of the day, rather than doing nothing but random Queues
How big is a party?
00:29
@Yuuki 2-4
@GnomeSlice Played PoE with my group for a while, but we're getting burned out on it
We've also played Black Desert Online, but aren't enjoying the End Game as much as we enjoyed the game at the beginning
I've heard BDO is more of PVP-focused game at the end rather than PVE.
Maybe FFXIV, but it's about as grindy as WoW.
I've tried FFXIV personally, it's fun, but it's not something my friends are willing to play because of the subscription.
WoW seemed like a good option because of the free-to-20 thing
In reality, we're looking for something more like a 4-player co-op game with MMO elements, rather than the other way around, but it's impossible to find exactly what we're looking for
how about Wildstar
oh
@Axoren Diablo 3, lol.
or Destiny
What's "MMO elements"? About the only common element of an MMO is the ability to play with a lot of other people.
@GnomeSlice Wildstar was chopped merely half an hour after we started. Path of Exile has us burned out on Diablo-style games.
00:35
You're gonna have to start trying more obscure or expensive games then
@Yuuki Large open worlds, dungeons, fielding, high-ceiling level-progression.
what about runescape
my old roomate still plays that, it looks legit now
@GnomeSlice It's not really what we're looking for. A couple of us want to be mages, but not Runescape-style mages.
Dropping AoE and using tactical spells, etc.
You have a very specific niche
Probably gonna have to end up with WoW or something my dude
Yeah, which is what I've been pushing the group for
But they're against it because it's WoW
We enjoyed games like Tree of Savior, Ragnarok Online, and similar
But Tree of Savior became unplayable in a party because of horrible software lockups
00:38
@GnomeSlice yeah 3 is pretty well put together in 2018
And Ragnarok Online is feeling really dated.
Old school is still the definitive version to me
But if my other account gets unbanned I might take it to 3 since it's boosted from level 3
Or I might do it anyway some on this account
Idk
Okay, so simplifying things a bit
Are there any modern games like Tree of Savior?
01:28
@Axoren this looks like an ARPG
like diablo lol
01:41
We like Tree of Savior for the vast class system
And we do like ARPGs
02:05
@Axoren Ragnarok Online is very similar in style and also has a vast class system, but it's not quite an ARPG
although Idk, maybe it could be considered an ARPG? The combat is not as fast paced as I would expect from an ARPG
There's nothing wrong with ARPGs for us. It's just that we're burnt out on Path of Exile and Diablo.
Tera Online has really good combat, so it's worth giving it a try, if you haven't already, but the game overall isn't very great, imho
I'll check it out.
my only problem with having played Tera Online is that I can't play any other MMO anymore due to combat being shit in all other games
We're each trying different games right now to sort of speed up our testing phase
02:09
Tera has the best combat system in an MMO I have seen
I'm investigating LotR Online
LotR is pretty old
the story and all is good, but the combat system is old and doesn't feel fun today
Yeah, but the reviews are all really good
Even the most recent ones
Compared to all other MMOs, this is the first time we've seen unanimous upside
LotR is not "free" though, keep that in mind, if that's an issue
What do you mean?
Paid expansions?
02:11
while all the content CAN be got with in-game achievements and such, it's extremely grindy
quests are locked behind paywall
you can get the premium currency from completing achievements and challenges
but it's super grindy
last I read, iirc, for like 20-40$ you can unlock enough missions to be able to get the rest of it within in-game means
I keep saying missions, but I mean quests
anyways, I need to go to work, hope you find a good MMO
also, have a look at Guild Wars 2
it's very different from all other MMOs
03:00
🚨cat at the bar🚨
🚨alert🚨
03:26
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Q: What is the image under the curtain in God of War?

BenSo, at the end of the campaign, Kratos and Atreus reach their goal. What does this represent?

03:58
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Q: Proventus Avenicci is no longer selling the alchemy lab upgrade to Breezehome

ziggurismI'm having trouble purchasing the last house upgrade from NPC Proventus Avenicci for Breezehome house in Whiterun. I have all the upgrades except the alchemy lab, which he no longer offers for sale. I've killed the first dragon, become a thane, got a housekarl Lydia, cleared the barrow, and have...

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Q: pls help me with my terraria mob farm

RoggyDawgWhenever I make a mob farm in terraria the lava always burns the item drops I have tried many different ways to make it not burn the drops but it always does. Please help me

05:28
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Q: Any other use for the Starry Night painting in Witcher 3?

OmegacronIn the HoS quest "Open Sesame" for Witcher 3, you can convince the art snob that you're a fellow connoisseur and thereafter bid on a painting by artist "Van Rogh". You can then resell it for profit to a collector in Novigrad. However, later during the heist you can find a love letter and other d...

 
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Q: I have this problem when I join a server it says:

CheckmateQ"You should join using player not Player" what do I dooooo?

@Memor-X CC @GnomeSlice because he wants that game
@Nzall even better for him because of what it says
> Add the game to your account now and keep it forever!
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21 minutes until I graduate
i guess I'll get refills while I wait
@Ave school?
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06:45
@Memor-X yeah.
just got refills
@Ave congrats for surviving hell
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the hell starts just now
@Ave congrats fam
07:06
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Q: Can more than two people activily use a shared Steam library?

Mike HarrisI know it's possible for two people to use a shared Steam library to play online at once (even with each other) like how this post describes using "Windows Defender Firewall with Advanced Security": https://cybermancy.org/two-people-one-steam-library But I'm curious if there is a way to have mor...

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I officially graduated
my year grade avg is 99.16% apparently
which isn't that great
07:22
Dear Twitter, if I mute a conversation, I mean "I don't want to hear from it again". NOT "If someone else joins in, treat it like a new conversation". My notifications menu is marred with the pro-life/pro-choice debate again
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Thanks google
07:38
"What's the weather like?" always works for me
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yeah that works for me too
I'd expect "how's the weather" to work too tho
though saying "how's the weather like in <place>" works. weird.
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Q: What is the effect of every button in the Gauntlet Bridge Puzzle of Dragon Age:Origins?

PuzzleEaterIn Dragon Age, there is a mini-game related to the quest for retrieving the Sacred Urn of Andraste's Ashes from an ancient temple. The mini-game is known online as Gauntlet Bridge Puzzle, and it looks like this: There exist plenty of sources which provide the solution for this mini-game. Ins...

@Ave I have no idea how your rating system works then
09:05
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Q: What is the best possible way to learn champion in league of legends

michal demjančukI'm trying to learn my new champ (Katarina), i didn't play assasins at all, but i have very fast reflexes so i though it could be good champ to try. So, there are my Questions: If I'm low on hp, is it better to Flash or use Q > Zhonyas > E (on Q before Zhonyas) ? If I'm new, is it better to pla...

09:47
@KevinvanderVelden She's clearly the super smart side character in an anime who won't accept less than perfect, which causes issues when dealing with the lazy but lucky protagonist
When on earth did I post in the Creative forum?
10:25
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Q: How do I spawn fused TNT at a players location through the console?

RatchetWanna troll a friend on minecraft I couldn't find anything on the internet so I went here

10:55
@Ave it's not correct to say that though and while humans will understand you, AI has trouble with that
@Arperum in case you're wondering, yes, it is I who added you on steam. Noticed I didn't have you when I did some "challenges"(?) in Just Cause 3 and didn't see you on the friends list to compare with :P
@Axoren This instantly makes me think of Guild Wars 2, or even Guild Wars 1
I'm doing a SL1 run myself right now, so I thoguht this video was interesting
Also cc @Fluttershy
I'm not far in yet. I've killed the capra demon and rung the second bell... I also ran down and killed pinwheel for his 15k souls. I want to get my pyro flame to +10 before I kill spider lady so that I can instantly buy a bunch of stuff from quelenna with those 20k souls
In fact I'll probably just buy great fireball for 20k souls
I was planning to avoid blighttown completely, but I want to grab power within from there. That said I'll probably wait to do that until after I get the lordvessel so I can just teleport out once I'm done.
Although I think that things so low down in blighttown I mine as well just do it
I'll probably try to kill the bed of chaos really early too so I can get fire tempest
I've only got two attunment slots, but I want some choices
and really the bed of chaos shouldn't be much different on SL1 compared to a regular playthrough
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Q: Scoring system on Europa Universalis IV [modding]

Fernando Gallego FernándezI wonder if there's a way to modify the scoring system on Europa universalis IV. I want to make a mod that uses a formula created by me to make a better leaderboard in-game. I was looking up on Internet but I didn't found any variable or tag that contains the definition of that variable on a .lu...

12:27
Imagine working hard on a real videogame, only for Steam to tell people it's like AIDS Simulator.
I think trolling might just be stuff like "you can't release Gaben Simulator 2018 wherein idk you just greenlight every game for your platform" then
it's Papers Please except the answer is approve for everything
glory to gabestozka
12:43
@Unionhawk Steam took Aids Simulator down, I think
Yup, the search doesn't find it anymore
so I'm fairly sure this falls under trolling
oh wow
so yeah it's exactly the previous policy
except maybe they won't take hatred 2 down
or something
which to be clear is a game that is about murdering innocent people for fun
@Unionhawk No, because Hatred 2 most likely won't be a troll game. Hatred One was a game which was actually made to be a game
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Q: Is this pc good for GTA 5 with the mod LSPDFR?

Isaiah AllenI want to play LSPDFR on Grand Theft Auto 5, But is this computer good. The CUSTOM INTEL 6th Gen i3-6100 3.7GHz? Please let me know.? Here is the link: https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-INTEL-6th-Gen-i3-6100-3-7GHz-DUAL-CORE-BAREBONES-GAMING-PC-DESKTOP-SYSTEM/401463255964?hash=item5d7913239c Oka...

@Unionhawk So is GTA
@Lazers2.0 that's the lowest tier i3 with no dedicated gpu. Yeah, no
12:50
I mean, Trevor is pretty much the same dude as the player character from Hatred
a crazy psychopath
@Lazers2.0 wait, that's a barebones PC, there's no ram or anything, it's just motherboard, cpu, case and power supply
I think your analysis of that character is right and the analysis of all 3 of those guys as being toxic men is right, but I also think there is slightly more there
It is ostensibly about a middle aged guy doing some bullshit in a city
or whatever
3 dudes become friends and they take down some asshole
@Unionhawk The guy from Hatred also has his own motivation for going on a spree
And Trevor was a psycho even before he met Franklin and the other guy
@Nzall GTA is not about murdering innocent people for fun. It allows you to do it, but that's not what it is about
@Nzall Trevor didn't kill everyone for no reason
he was quite insane, but he wasn't just killing everyone for fun
@Chippies wait... are you trying to say that there's other things to do in GTA than going on a rampage?
12:54
@Jutschge how about not even being able to go on a rampage until at least starting the story?
@Chippies Neither did the player character from Hatred. He had his own motivation for going on a murder spree.
I forgot the /s there
@Jutschge it was noted, I guess I just didn't reply in a proper /s manner :P
to be fair trevor does have missions where you have to do shit like, kill as many hipsters as you can in 2 minutes
@Nzall Trevor didn't really go around killing innocent people though
@Unionhawk okay well, those weren't story missions, so not necessarily canon
Hatred was literally about going and killing innocent unarmed people that are running away from you in fear of their life
12:57
@Chippies Trevor literally killed 2 of his drugs lab buddies because he wanted to
god all 3 of the GTA V characters kind of suck lol
@Nzall I don't remember that part, but I doubt he killed them because he had an urge to kill someone and they were there
@Unionhawk well it is a game about robbing banks and shooting people :P
@Chippies Yeah, idk how you write a dude who isn't toxic as all hell in there
Like, you are against Hatred, I get that. But it's pretty much an entire game based around the concept of the No Russian scene in MW2
13:00
@Nzall Idk if you're replying to me or someone else, but I am not against Hatred
Franklin is the closest you can really get in that department
I'm just saying that Hatred is literally about killing innocent people
@Chippies It's in general
the dev himself says in the article you linked, that killing people is the focus of the game
@Chippies Yeah, but it's the same in pretty much every shooter. The only difference here is that this game is about killing innocents
13:01
there is no in-game explanation (afaik) why it's reasonable to chase unarmed civilians and kill them, other than because the guy just wants to
@Nzall and that is usually a pretty important bit
we have people killing people at war all the time, but killing civilians is still frowned upon
shooting unarmed people is frowned upon
for a good reason, I might say
You lose a thousand dollars (x difficulty) and I think spawn snipers for killing hostages in payday
I've never been sure about the spawn snipers bit
In the trailer for the game, he explicitly talks about vengeance and his hatred of the people who are destroying the world
@Unionhawk they are certainly toxic, but Rockstar does a good job at making them feel human
13:04
@Chippies Yeah they're definitely real people
@Nzall it's what a psychopath says before going on a shooting spree. It's not really a "good" reason
Dad of Gamer is certainly A Trope that can probably be tapped into elsewhere where stuff like that works
in GTA, for example, you kill people, because they get in the way of your mission to make money or whatever it is you do
in a world of lots of games with gratuitous violence, is there such a thing as going to far in that front
My position, is yes
most games don't focus the whole game on killing people for the sake of killing people
there's usually something else and the people are just in the way
13:07
The GTA series is also pretty well known for their humor (although it's pretty dark at times) and I haven't heard anything about "funny" things in hatred...
now, personally, I vote with my wallet and I don't care if Hatred and the liked are on steam or not
at least effort was put into making Hatred
that school shooting game is just an asset flip
I'm voting with my wallet by my wallet being empty
take that
@Unionhawk I buy games when they're <10$ or 85% off
actually I might have $3
unless it's something like GTA V, which I pre-ordered and it was worth every dollar
oddly enough, I haven't cared about going on rampage in GTA games since GTA 3
13:10
@Chippies Same here. I feel like Hatred is not an awful game to have on Steam. Like, it might have a controversial message and few redeeming qualities, but the game itself has had effort put into it. And I think that's what should be the main focus for Steam to determine whether a game is trolling: has the dev put in enough effort to justify the game's existence?
if Rockstar released the first Red Dead Redemption as a remaster on PC, they would have all of my money
has the game received polishing and finishing
@Nzall exactly. If the game is controversial or whatever, let people vote with their wallets
by that standard all bethesda games would be off limits for being buggy as heck
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Q: Why does it take so long to get an item?

QuijiboI have been playing Mario Kart Wii for quite a while, and when I started watching Mario Kart Wii videos on YouTube, I noticed that a lot of the players get their items from item boxes much faster (the CPUs in 1P mode also get items faster). What I mean by this is that it takes longer for the item...

13:12
@Unionhawk maybe it would force them to actually fix their games then
@Unionhawk No, because Bethesda games have pretty good polishing for their scope
and they actually put in bugfixes
hire the goddamn users that release community fixes/patches
if your players fix your game, at least pay them and incorporate those fixes into the actual game
They don't just release a game for 99 cents for the sole purpose of running a card bot farm
can you guys ping for like the next ten seconds? I think I accidentally muted the tab and the unmute button only appears when the tab plays audio
@Nzall 'ello
13:14
Okay, thanks
could you edit that message to see if it works, or send a new message?
@Nzall ping
Okay, I got my sound back
@Chippies I just think that Valve has an opportunity to at minimum not host content that is actively harmful, which they have allowed on their platform in the past. And while I think most of that will end up also being bad games, and also while Hatred might not really be that (it's close), I don't really know where I'm going with this sentence
We'll see
I think most people who want to create actively harmful content would much rather just vomit it onto youtube than put in effort to pass "not trolling"
@Unionhawk I feel like the line for where "actively harmful" is a thing is different for different people
@Unionhawk I'd personally be happy if they can just get the games that abuse the steam storefront off the store
13:17
there are a lot of literal trash games on steam that should be gone
if I go through a tutorial in unity and add my own store-bought assets, I shouldn't be able to sell that as a game on steam
Like, I personally don't mind if a developer wants to start a discussion on certain social aspects of life through their game, and for that they might have to release a game that some people don't want to see released. But what I do mind is if a developer makes a game just to piss off people, or to shamelessly cash in on unsuspecting users of the store
there's way too many unity shooters on steam
@Chippies And that's why this is just a cowardly move. Rather than trying to answer that question for themselves, they would much rather avoid the confrontation down the line, and are banking on hiding behind "most of this shit is going to be asset flips probably so we'll just say that's trolling"
all using the same physics, same models, same everything, just a different map
@Unionhawk btw are you following the osrs ToB race?
13:20
@Jutschge No lol
I forgot that released
It's fun! Maxed players spending billions because they constantly die
@Unionhawk And why must Steam be the gatekeeper for the entire world? people who don't drink might find games where alcohol consumption is mandated actively harmful, but that doesn't mean Steam must ban Witcher 3
I still need the quest requirements
@Unionhawk I think it's only fair that they don't interfere with what content is on their platform unless absolutely necessary, because they are practically running a monopoly on PC gaming
@Unionhawk afaik there are no requirements to go in... but it seems impossible to do without 99 in all combat stats
13:20
@Jutschge nice
I'm pretty sure you need like, in search of the myreque or something
Hmm iirc the only requirement is the one quest that unlocks Morytania. You can walk there or pay 10k for a boat
ah, interesting
But yeah having the quests completed is convinient because of teleports
There might have been a related quest that had requirements then
I mean either way my 60 combat ass would get myself handed to me (?)
Yeah that's the quest for the unlimited teleports to the entrance
Hmm if you have protect from melee you can do pretty much every quest except Dream mentor and the grandmaster quests (at least from a combat perspective)
I really rushed every major quest and I didn't die too often
The only quest I died 10+ times was Dragonslayer 2 but that was kinda expected with my ranged lvl.
13:25
I had trouble using melee in monkey madness because I didn't get the switch from magic to melee off in time
but I just ranged the guy
Yeah Ranging/Maging is generally preferred for quest bosses. You can safespot most of them
Also because of the way magic defense works, most monsters are super vulnerable to magic attacks
I need to up my ranged
Have you got the dorgeshuun crossbow?
That thing is super worth
You can pretty much use it until 61. Then you can switch to a rune CB with Broad bolts
13:27
I need to up mage too but I really don't want to afk splash my way to victory
Although you need 55 slayer for Broad bolts which takes some time
@fredley no autoplay, can't idle - fail game
I could camelot teleport my way to victory though
@Chippies ?autoplay=1
13:28
@Unionhawk If you like risky training I'd recommend lava dragons :P Can be extremely profitable but you're also getting pk'd from time to time
I do not like risky training lmao
Hmm in that case Telealching might be the best option
Though I did learn the wilderness altar is slightly better than a house altar lol so I might do that to up prayer next training round
That's like extremely risky
That's probably true
13:29
I did 70 prayer at a POH altar and it cost about 5mil and took 1.5 hours
Super worth because you don't have to touch it for a while after 70
it's probably honestly faster
since you have the bank note dude right there
I mean you would save about 2.5 mil in the wilderness... provided you don't get pk'd in the most profitable pk hotspot there is...
Oh if you want to train magic and prayer you could actually just use ensouled heads
It's not extremely fast but pretty cheap
That's the arceus book right
I need to do stuff over there lol
13:32
I also need stuff there... But now there's quests you can do
And they give you about 20% favor which takes away an hour or so (the first 20-30% are always the slowest)
Yeah they're on my backlog
Up next is 22 laps canifis rooftop to 44, then 3 prereqs for my arm, then my arm for 33 (I think) farming for some reason
Hmm do you want to complete it purely for the exp reward?
Because in early levels tree-running is definitely great and cheap
Oh and I just realized... My arm has a nasty boss. Idk how that'll go with 60 combat tbh. I did it around 90 and while I didn't die I definitely underestimated it
That's... missing from my notes lol
lol yeah no
screw this
it's a 172 combat roc with a special attack that knocks you back and 2 different attack styles that are accurate and hit 14-20
I mean it's probably doable but I would expect a few deaths
@Wipqozn I will never have the patience for a SL1 run, but good luck with yours!
13:48
I think the strat is just going to be a solid combat training session next now
Combat training is always good. Are you training on slayer tasks or on special monsters?
idk I should probably do more slayer tbh
I mean It's usually not as effective as something like rock-crabs but it's definitely more fun and profitable
What game are you talking about?
And starting early It somewhat helps with getting that 69 requirement for MM2
@Fluttershy Oldschool runescape
13:52
@Fluttershy I'm really curious to see how far I get before I just give up in frustration.
@Jutschge Isn't that shutting down soon?
@Wipqozn I'd make it to the Taurus Demon probably.
@Fluttershy No, classic is shutting down
old school is actively maintained
it's confusing
@Fluttershy nah that's RS classic. The 2001 version of the game that had like 20 active players. Although there have been a ton of Social media videos that made it look like osrs was shutting down
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@KevinvanderVelden I mean it's pretty good, but it's not top 10, which is sorta what I was aiming for.
@Unionhawk Do you pay a subscription fee for Runescape?
13:59
I do yeah, but you can play it free
@Yuuki you can pay monthly or you can buy 14 days of membership with ingame currency
And getting the amount of ingame currency needed for the membership takes about 4 hours if you're mid-lvl

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