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Noctrine

15:00

Oh wait, those images were posted on SO ><

C. Ross

@Macha is it a custom thing per site, or is it an api the site implements?

Mana

I only use SO during my school term for advice when I get stuck with a bug I can't figure out :<

Noctrine

Custom

C. Ross

shame

@Mana, ask on SO all you want

there are plenty of people fighting for rep

FallenAngelEyes

How do I link a particular question?

Macha

15:02

@C.Ross I'm fairly certain it's a custom thing per site.

Noctrine

Paste the link

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Q: Statler and Waldorf badge for explaining downvotes

This badge would be for people who have left comments in roughly 20 questions or answers they've downvoted. It'll encourage people to explain why they're downvoting without forcing them to do so.

FallenAngelEyes

I think that this question should probably be closed under Subjective/Argumentative. He's asking about functionality of Blizzard's friending system, and we can't really answer that.

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Q: Whats the point of the Character code in Starcraft 2?

Whats the point of having to put in both the character name and the character code of the user your trying add as a friend? I don't really understand their thinking, it just sends a request anyways doesn't it? I can see how it would cut down on spam requests, (those people that try to add eve...

starcraft-2 code friends

Chacha102

[status-cheesecake]

Mana

0

Q: Hilarious bugs messing up game logic

Just to start with an example: Back in 1990 I played Bundesliga Manager Professional (Soccer Manager). You have to set 11 of your player to the "In team"-state before each match. If you put a player on the transfer market he won't be shown on the team-screen but he will keep his "In team"-state...

bug

Chacha102

generally multiple input for locating a character is due to people being able to have the same input of one field

such as someone being able to have the same name

Mana

15:04

we should adress that guy's question in the comments

C. Ross

@FallenAngleEyes Not a real question

Chacha102

@FallenAngelEyes While it is subjective, there is an answer to it

Macha

@FallenAngelEyes Looks valid IMO.

FallenAngelEyes

Ah, now that I see Raven's answer, the question makes more sense.

Mana

"What makes this a not so worthy question like "What would you recommend me if I played Game X?" " from Hilariously Bad Bugs

hmm

tzenes

15:07

good morning internets

FallenAngelEyes

Good afternoon!

Mana

Yo. How's it going?

tzenes

Doing well

also Mana, I agree vote to close

Mana

It was already closed

tzenes

even better

Mana

15:08

the problem is explaining to the guy why we closed his question while we let game-rec slide

Chacha102

I love that even though I said the same thing, I never got upvoted

FallenAngelEyes

One of the main things that I think is different is this isn't any sort of problem that needs solved, it's just asking for a list. When someone is asking for a game-rec, they have a problem, they're looking for x y or z, that needs solved and they need help/input to solve it.

tzenes

While it is a fun thing, the concept of Hilarious is largely subjective. Additionally our site does not exist to make lists of fun things but to get answers to serious questions.

Chacha102

Who are the Mods in here?

Noctrine

Grace

Juan

and...

tzenes

15:09

Oak

Ivo Flipse

in where?

Downvoter

I suggested he takes the discussion to meta

FallenAngelEyes

and Oak

Ivo Flipse

on the site you mean?

tzenes

I think here is the correct location for it

Chacha102

15:10

Gaming, yeah

FallenAngelEyes

The only person who's a mod right now that's "awake" is Juan.

tzenes

meta seems to be more for questions about questions

oh you mean the discussion of the closing

Chacha102

I like that @Ivo just suddenly popped up

Ivo Flipse

@FallenAngelEyes I'd hardly call games-rec a problem that needs solving

Downvoter

not everyone can (or will want to) access the chat

tzenes

15:10

I would, but you already know my feelings on it

Macha

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4434/what-game-do-you-always-find-yourself-going-back-to-play-again-and-again

Someone go explain to Tobias and Matt why this question was closed...

Ivo Flipse

I like it that @Chacha102 likes it that @Ivo suddenly popped up

Chacha102

I like it that @Ivo likes that @Chacha102 likes it that @Ivo suddenly popped up

Downvoter

Meta is the right place for a more formal discussion

tzenes

I agree @Juan but in the long run I b elieve the chat will the appropriate place for something fun like that

Downvoter

15:11

oh, I meant he took it to meta to ask why it got closed

tzenes

Agreed, I didn't understand which discussion you ment initially

Downvoter

we were talking about different things

tzenes

yeah

FallenAngelEyes

Not a direct problem, but it's something that seems at least more useful in the future than just a list of games with funny bugs.

Ivo Flipse

I tried doing the same as that question with my original question

tzenes

15:13

I don't think gaming.se exists to solve that problem Fallen

Ivo Flipse

my point is @FallenAngelEyes we don't need those questions

tzenes

I think we exist for more of the "On the twelth level of doom I can find the Red Key, but where is the Blue key?" problems

FallenAngelEyes

Game-rec as a whole?

Ivo Flipse

I believe the #starcraft tag is showing what this site can be about

tzenes

yes

Ivo Flipse

15:13

game-rec may die if you ask me

Downvoter

See here for game-rec discussion

Downvoter

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Q: [game-recommendations] and single, correct answers

On my question asking about game recommendations, the user random asked how such a question can have a single, correct answer. It's a very good question, in my opinion, so I bring it here - especially since it is relevant to all questions tagged [game-recommendations], which is already one of th...

discussion game-recommendations

FallenAngelEyes

I hold the same stance as Oak on the game-rec issue.

tzenes

@Juan and you can see my answer there as well, I don't like it

I think it brings in B quality questions

and B questions bring in C people

We need A questions to bring in A people

Macha

If the answer is either "It does not exist" or only one or two games fulfil the criteria, then I feel it's specific enough. game-rec for "Games I enjoy" = way too broad.

Downvoter

15:14

sure, it's still an open discussion

Noctrine

And enough A people will bring in some S people

Downvoter

I think Oak makes a great point

Downvoter

if it's specific enough, it's ok

tzenes

Ok @Macha if there is only 0-2 possible answers I might be more willing to let it slide

Downvoter

if it's too broad, it's not

tzenes

15:15

but I don't think that's ever the case

Chacha102

@Macha You're name is to similar too mine..

Macha

@Chacha102 Look for the digits :P

Noctrine

I wish Jeff would have posted his opinion on -rec questions in there.

tzenes

In his example, he wants games that are A) Turn based and B) Explore big world

that describes about a billion games

Ivo Flipse

@Jeff doesn't have a say in everything ;-) In the end the community should do as they see fit (within certain boundaries)

tzenes

15:16

Noctrine I really hope he doesn't

Noctrine

His opinion was good though

Macha

Anyone think it was a stupid idea to put the SE link where it is? Especially when there's barely anything on the SE homepage atm.

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tzenes

I like to think we are mature enough to reach consensus, we don't need Daddy in here to fix things for us

2

Noctrine

I really dislike it being there

Mana

@Macha: yes. I have clicked that button five times thinking it says visit meta/parent

Noctrine

15:17

Before I was switching to meta every time I wanted to click the logo, now I go to the SE page.

tzenes

oh, that's where meta used to be

Ivo Flipse

It's kind of useless the way it is now, since there's hardly any content there

tzenes

when did that switch?

Mana

Oh well, I guess I'll get used to it.

Macha

@tzenes Today

Ivo Flipse

15:18

It actually took me going for mod tools to spot the meta link moved to the right

FallenAngelEyes

Just today, I think.

tzenes

that's much less visible

Chacha102

and soon there will be chat too

Ivo Flipse

I would almost vote to put a stop on games-rec until we get a better definition of what should be allowed or not

tzenes

Let's not get hasty @Ivo we can always delete them later

Chacha102

15:19

well, go back to the original founding questions

that is the definition of what should be allowed

tzenes

@Chacha102 that doesn't make it a good question

Ivo Flipse

no I mean not allowing any new ones until it's sorted

tzenes

that just means a lot of people like it

Chacha102

@tzenes Ideally it meant that those were the questions that were suppose to be ontopic for the site

tzenes

Ideally

but not necessarily

I think tons of people want Game recommendations, that's why sites like Gamespot continue to make money. Its a huge industry. What games should I buy? What is good? etc. But I don't think that it benefits our community to have these questions. I believe it does more harm than good.

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Downvoter

15:22

Then they belong on Gamespot

tzenes

We don't want to become the next Epic Advice

Mana

what's Epic Advice?

tzenes

Epicadvice.com

Ivo Flipse

I like their name though @tzenes

tzenes

meh

Chacha102

15:23

so what, the debate is whether to allow people to ask questions about turn-based games?

tzenes

no

its whether people can say: what are good games like X

in the example X was a turn-based game where he got to explore large portions of the map

Damn Grace is good

Downvoter

haha

Downvoter

was thinking the same thing

Downvoter

he lurks in meta all day

tzenes

can I vote her in as permenant mod yet?

Is Grace a he or a she? Because the profile says feminin

Noctrine

15:25

People alternate

Ivo Flipse

I stand with Grace's quote of random: Do we want to sit around the campfire singing kumbaya?
Or do we want to get a direct answer to a game related problem we're having?

Doesn't take skills or expert knowledge to throw an opinion out there.

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tzenes

That's a good one

Chacha102

Kumbaya.....

:P

Downvoter

@tzenes, where does it say feminin?

Noctrine

Bio

tzenes

15:26

"A super assassin idol who can sing, dance, and assassinate. She's pretty famous in the Netheruniverse, and her catch phrase is 'Are you prepared for your beautiful assassination?!' She's very optimistic and positive, but a little selfish."

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Obviously its fictional

Downvoter

ah

tzenes

but people usualy keep gender the same

Chacha102

usually...

Downvoter

well, I don't know, he/she never clarifies

tzenes

right

thats why I asked

Downvoter

15:26

it's the same though

Ivo Flipse

how can we actually end this whole discussion properly? if you look at the latest meta question you just linked, Grace already linked to two other similar discussions, but we never draw a real discussion on what to do

tzenes

we'll probably put it to a vote

or just raise our standards on the issue until everyone is unhappy

that's how most compromises work

Downvoter

votes are already possible

Downvoter

vote to close, or vote to re-open

tzenes

I would argue we've already put it to a vote

Chacha102

15:29

I like the making people unhappy thing

Do that

tzenes

haha

Ivo Flipse

actually I think it's already decided @Juan

Chacha102

well

tzenes

I don't think there is a way everyone will be happy with this issue

Chacha102

in a few days you can have the community decide

because some more people will be past 2k

Ivo Flipse

15:30

just try the following queries: starcraft closed:1 vs games-rec closed:1

tzenes

I'll probably get past 3k today

Noctrine

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A: What makes my question a real question?

It's asking for a list, not an answer. How can you say an answer is the right answer with that question? You can't. Which is why game-rec is controversial. Some can be answered, some could have a list of every game ever made.

Maybe that is the solution, we list every game ever made in them.

tzenes

That feels more like a DoS than a solution

Chacha102

@Noctrine The solution would be community wiki for list questions. But only if the list question can't be repeated

FallenAngelEyes

Is the chat notification sound for this site the sound for the request to open a door from ST:TNG? >_>

Chacha102

15:31

no idea

tzenes

I never watched much Star Trek, sorry

Chacha102

I suggested letting users upload sounds for the room

That would go over real well..

tzenes

too much bandwidth

Chacha102

not even about that

Noctrine

@FallenAngelEyes now that you've said it, I can't unhear it ><

Mana

15:32

The content of the sounds would be mainly crude.

Chacha102

I can imagine it playing "Tik Tok" everytime someone typed..

FallenAngelEyes

Haha

It is too! youtube.com/watch?v=NVEYhmjo3vA

Chacha102

►

tzenes

nice

Macha

http://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4434/what-game-do-you-always-find-yourself-going-back-to-play-again-and-again

I just realised I am actually agreeing with antony.trupe on something...

Downvoter

15:34

fixed link

Downvoter

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Q: What game do you always find yourself going back to play again and again?

What game do you always find yourself going back to play again and again? Any platform, any generation. Keep it to one game per answer so others can upvote to agree.

game-rec

Chacha102

test

test

grr

there we go

tzenes

@Macha even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut

ok, that came out meaner than I intended

Chacha102

@tzenes meany...

FallenAngelEyes

On a random note, I hear that game is entertaining.

Macha

15:36

900 rep, 38 Questions (many more deleted), 10 answers (8 self-answers). Meh, I'm ok with being mean.

Mana

@Macha: Why, what's wrong with--oh.

tzenes

haha

I often hold back from asking questions I already know the answer too even though i know they'd make great questions for the site

FallenAngelEyes

Oh, he's the one who asks all the DF stuff

tzenes

seeding is nice and all, but it feels too much like rep whoring

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FallenAngelEyes

@tzenes: likewise

tzenes

15:38

@FallenAngelEyes even worse, he asks questions about cheating at DF

Cheating at DF is like cheating at a Marathon, what's the point?

the whole attraction is that it is hard

FallenAngelEyes

Ah, I've never read his questions that thoroughly because I haven't played DF since 2007 or so, so I can't really answer anything.

Ah, Boatmurdered...

tzenes

HAHAHAHAHA

oh man, good times

FallenAngelEyes

I'm a lurker on SA

Muchly enjoyed reading that whole thing XD

tzenes

you should give DF2010 a try when you have some times. He's changed a bunch of things, but mostly for the better

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah I heard he rolled out a big update in April?

Macha

15:41

Although I'm jealous of older games who had much more magma.

Ivo Flipse

it's a little bit overkill having that many DF questions from one user

tzenes

yeah

FallenAngelEyes

You've got an adventuring option now or something to go through your dungeon?

tzenes

The adventuring option has been there since 1.0

Macha

It's not 1.0 yet :P

tzenes

15:42

it was actually the focus

you know what I mean

The fortress just took off more

FallenAngelEyes

I'll have to re-download it sometime.

tzenes

but originally it was to be a true rogue-like game

FallenAngelEyes

I really like the Fortress option. It reminds me of Dungeon Keeper 2.

I'd kill a man for a DK3. :(

tzenes

Never played any of the Dungeon Keeper games, maybe Steam has them on sale

FallenAngelEyes

Not sure if they're on Steam, hm, never checked. I like god-sims though, so I enjoyed it a lot.

Chacha102

15:43

Well, time for my daily

FallenAngelEyes

The games also have great humor.

I love this room because it means I don't have to constantly manually refresh the site, like I usually do. :P

Earlz

@FallenAngelEyes definitely. Also, they have tab completion finally!

Ivo Flipse

I also think this is the most active chatroom (of the ones I'm in

FallenAngelEyes

Will this chat be open after the site goes out of beta as well?

Or is this a beta only feature?

Ivo Flipse

no it's here to stay

tzenes

15:46

I imagine we'll get a chat.gaming.se

FallenAngelEyes

Cool

tzenes

have a serious of chat rooms just for gaming

but we're not quite big enough yet

I don't know what the tipping point is

but I hope we can get there soon

FallenAngelEyes

While I'd prefer something not browser based, I have to admit the streaming feeds are really nice.

Ivo Flipse

the streaming feeds are nothing special, you can download the feednotifier mention on meta

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Q: Trilogy Addicts - Get "real-time" notifications of new questions.

Disclaimer: This is an application that I developed, but I got permission to post this by asking [email protected] first. Feed Notifier is a Windows application that resides in the system tray and displays pop-up notifications on your desktop when new items arrive in your subscribed RSS or ...

discussion so-family notifications rss tools

FallenAngelEyes

Oh huh, thanks!

Ivo Flipse

15:50

watch out! It's addictive

and quite spammy if you have it for 6 sites + their Meta's

Earlz

@IvoFlipse psh, I can quit anytime I want. lol

FallenAngelEyes

Yeah, I'd imagine so. I'm only on this one though, so. :)

Mana

That's okay, I mainly use my netbook for chats/notifications anyways

Ivo Flipse

yeah right, just like people can quit WoW any time

when they go to sleep, until they wake up

Mana

speaking of

FallenAngelEyes

15:51

The keyword filtering is pretty awesome.

Mana

where are all the WoW questions on gaming.se?

Ivo Flipse

non-existent

tzenes

hahaha

Chacha102

@IvoFlipse I've been playing WoW off and on for the last 5 years

Mana

I thought those would be pretty common, but I haven't seen any

tzenes

15:52

they got deleted

Chacha102

and I constantly quit

FallenAngelEyes

Not a WoW player here

Mana

Me neither

FallenAngelEyes

I played the open beta week back in Nov '04 and haven't touched it since

tzenes

I used to for a very long time

Ivo Flipse

15:52

I managed to quit to @Chacha102 but I kept reading wow.com and mmo-champion until a year later...

tzenes

Do you think being an "ex-wow" player is the next thing

FallenAngelEyes

After I played 14 hours in a row on the first day I determined I should never ever play it if I wanted to do anything else in my life.

tzenes

a cultural touch stone like blowing on those NES cartriages

Ivo Flipse

heej I managed to my master's degree while playing wow with only three months delay (and that was due to my newly found girl friend) @FallenAngelEyes

Macha

Anyone think that chat increases activity on metagaming?

tzenes

15:55

I think gaming increases activity on metagaming

not sure how you could tell if chat was also affecting it

FallenAngelEyes

I should so be studying...

tzenes

alright time for work

my life needs to be about more than just answering gaming questions online

FallenAngelEyes

haha

tzenes

its also about shipping books!

FallenAngelEyes

oooh books

tzenes

15:58

oh boy oh boy oh boy

Ivo Flipse

what books @tzenes perhaps I'll buy some :P

Chacha102

people get too caught up in WoW

and I don't get why

tzenes

I work at Amazon

Chacha102

I always found it to be something I could easily play once in awhile..

Ivo Flipse

have you ever raided high end @Chacha102

Chacha102

15:58

yes

Ivo Flipse

oeh, ship my aunt her Kindle BEFORE her vacation please :P

FallenAngelEyes

It's the carrot-on-the-stick effect

tzenes

5 nights a week, 6 hours a night

Chacha102

Both in Burning Crusade and WOTLK

tzenes

Ivo what city?

Ivo Flipse

15:59

then you were in a nice guild :P

hehe, Arnhem, The Netherlands @tzenes

tzenes

ah

FallenAngelEyes

A Dutchie!

tzenes

We do prime to a number of cities, but that's not one of them

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