The Bridge

SaintWacko

17:00

Seriously

Cut it with the flags

Unionhawk

I will turn this car around

4

Yuuki

Preferably with an epilepsy warning.

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk Bridge*

Yuuki

@Unionhawk *the beat

BlueBarren

@Yuuki I read this as "I will turn this car around, preferably with an epilepsy warning"

SaintWacko

17:01

DanmakuGrazer

"General Arqade chat, wherein we have the worst gifs on the internet. Period."

Avery

@DanmakuGrazer "General Arqade chat, wherein we have the best gifs and the worst flags on the internet. Period."

murgatroid99

@DanmakuGrazer I've seen worse

MBraedley

Canso Causeway

The Canso Causeway (Cabhsair Chanso in Gaelic) is a 1,385 m (4,544 ft) rock-fill causeway in Nova Scotia, Canada. The causeway crosses the Strait of Canso, connecting Cape Breton Island by road to the Nova Scotia peninsula. Its crest thickness is 40 m (130 ft), carrying the two vehicle traffic lanes of the Trans-Canada Highway, Nova Scotia Highway 104 on the mainland side, and Nova Scotia Highway 105 on the Cape Breton side, as well as the single track mainline of the Cape Breton and Central Nova Scotia Railway. Constructed in an "S" shape, the causeway has a base width of 244 m (801 ft) in waters...

Not the same structure pictured, but has a similar swing bridge

Yuuki

Oh, so it is behind a text link now but the text is the link address.

:|

MadMAxJr

17:06

Oh. We've got a railway bridge that turns like that not far from here, over the river.

Fluttershy

Meanwhile, in Missouri...

Avery

Meanwhile in my favorite gif of all time and in bridge is a gif hell

Wipqozn

@fredley That's fucked up. Beyond fucked up.

Why does the GOP hate its citizens? I don't understand

ToxicFrog

@Wipqozn AFAICT the GOP base at this point are (a) people who would rather burn the country to the ground than see The Wrong Sort Of People derive any sort of benefit from it, even if they hurt themselves in the process (i.e. sparrow-curtain-rod.txt)

HazyKingdom

@Avery Shia loves getting people Labeouffed up.

ToxicFrog

17:18

and/or (b) people who are 100% convinced that they won't be affected, because they are good and right and pure (i.e. leopard-party.txt)

HazyKingdom

Palate cleanser inc

i.imgur.com/0EivUeY.gifv

ToxicFrog

@Wipqozn and it's been like this for long enough that the people getting elected actually believe this rather than just pandering to their base

Lazers 2.0

-2

Q: Can't download workshop game from steam

I was trying to download a game from Steam. But every-time I get this: This item has been added to your Subscriptions. Some games will require you to relaunch them before the item will be downloaded. What do I do after this?

GodEmperorDune

17:34

@Dragonrage sent you some stuff on discord

fredley

@Wipqozn Money

MBraedley

@Fluttershy How high is the water compared to the street behind the wall?

HazyKingdom

I was wondering that too. Like how are people comfortable parking their cars next to that nightmare?

"Oh there's a life threatening flood across the street? No time, I need to get back to work at the coca cola factory."

Sterno

Immortal Redneck. hrm

SaintWacko

@fredley What the fuck

MBraedley

17:41

TIL Montana has about twice as many microbreweries per capita as Nova Scotia, assuming this list is complete.

Sterno

Immortal Redneck is a weird game. It has Twitch integration and chat can vote on which upgrades you get

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune thank you.

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage np

HazyKingdom

@Sterno seems like a weird game ... the title is off putting too. Why is it set in Egypt?

mummy redneck?

BlueBarren

well C# is being dumb again

Dragonrage

17:50

@HazyKingdom it's probably bad rats in disguise

Because let's be honest here. Bad Rats is the only game @Sterno plays.

Avery

@BlueBarren hm, what's wrong

HazyKingdom

@Dragonrage That is some sound reasoning.

BlueBarren

@Avery it seems like my single "|" is being ignored and the other evaluation is being checked

Avery

heh

use rust

BlueBarren

@Avery what like the game on steam?

heh

murgatroid99

17:52

@BlueBarren What's the line of code?

BlueBarren

@murgatroid99

return user.EmailAddress == null | (Regex.IsMatch(user.EmailAddress, Regex.Escape(basicExpected) + @"\d?" + "@address.com"));

Avery

@BlueBarren no the unbuggable language

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren are you sure you meant | and not ||?

BlueBarren

@Avery so english?

@ToxicFrog yes

HazyKingdom

||

ToxicFrog

17:54

Oh, I see, C# describes | as bitwise or but defines it on bools too.

Weeeeeird.

HazyKingdom

O_o

murgatroid99

But null isn't a bool either

ToxicFrog

And it doesn't short-circuit, unlike ||

@murgatroid99 no, but (user.EmailAddress == null) is

And I'm 90% sure that == binds more tightly than | or ||

murgatroid99

Are you sure the operators have that precedence?

BlueBarren

when in doubt throw some brackets on stuff

ToxicFrog

17:55

(and if it didn't I'd expect that to be a compile-time type error)

BlueBarren

but what I'm doing is returning a true or false

ToxicFrog

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/6a71f45d.aspx -- yeah, == has higher precedence than | which outranks ||

BlueBarren

so if email is null return and if it's not does email equal this?

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren what do you mean by "it's being ignored and the other evaluation is being checked"?

murgatroid99

@BlueBarren Why are you using a single pipe instead of a double pipe?

BlueBarren

17:56

@murgatroid99 double is if you want to check both

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren right, but you're using |, which doesn't short-circuit, so both arms will be evaluated regardless

You have it backwards. || short circuits. | does not.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog No?

> x | y
except that if x is true, y is not evaluated because the OR operation is true regardless of the value of y

murgatroid99

yes. That's what "short circuit" means

BlueBarren

I'm not following

murgatroid99

x || y is logically equivalent to x | y, except that x || y short circuits

BlueBarren

17:58

I've never heard the term "short circuit" before

murgatroid99

"Short circuit" is just shorthand for "if x is true, y is not evaluated because the OR operation is true regardless of the value of y"

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren if you evaluate x || y and x is true, y is never evaluated (because it knows that won't change the overall result). If you evaluate x | y, both x and y are evaluated regardless.

"short circuit" is the common term for it in C/++ and most other languages I've used, but maybe C# uses different terminology.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog no no no that is completely wrong

from what I've been taught

from what I know

don't tell me I've been wrong this entire time

murgatroid99

@BlueBarren You literally just linked to the documentation for || that says what we've been saying

ToxicFrog

@BlueBarren you've been taught wrong; I'm quoting MSDN @here

"x | y – logical or bitwise OR. Use with integer types and enum types is generally allowed."

"x || y – logical OR. If the first operand is true, then C# does not evaluate the second operand."

BlueBarren

18:00

@murgatroid99 I may or may not be dyslexic

well I'm not getting a null exception but now I'm question my results

yeah something else is wrong

what did I do...

but thanks guys

I've been led astray this entire time

the education system has failed me

ToxicFrog

(note that & and && do the same thing -- x & y evaluates both, x && y skips y if x was false)

Dragonrage

What case would you use x | y over x || y?

Or x & y over x && y?

ToxicFrog

@Dragonrage well, those are bitwise as well as boolean operators

BlueBarren

@Dragonrage I would assume if you have three choices?

like if your user is a mom or a dad they can enter

murgatroid99

@Dragonrage In the case of boolean operations, you might use them if your program is very performance-bound and you are unlikely to often get correct branch prediction

BlueBarren

18:04

but if they're a child they can't

ToxicFrog

Using them as boolean operators, the only use I can think of is if the terms of the expression have side effects (iiiiick) and you want all of them evaluated regardless.

@BlueBarren that works with the short-circuiting versions just fine, though.

BlueBarren

@ToxicFrog I guess it would

crap

I have no good examples

ToxicFrog

E.g. x || y || z will stop at the first true, and x && y && z will stop at the first false; if you're mixing them you need to be careful about precedence (use lots of parens!) but as long as you get that right it'll do the right thing.

The reason short-circuiting is valuable is because it improves performance (and lets the program skip over code with failed preconditions) without having any effect on the final result of the expression.

murgatroid99

The way compilers do short circuiting (as far as I know) is by generating a branch that only evaluates the second if the first has a certain value. In some cases, a branch may take slightly more time than just evaluating both expressions.

But if you're using it for that reason, it's almost definitely a premature optimization

ToxicFrog

@murgatroid99 if that kind of microoptimization matters, though, you're probably either not working in C# or you're trusting the runtime optimizer to handle it (does C# have a runtime optimizer like java?)

Dragonrage

18:07

Hmm. I don't think I've ever used single pipe or ampersand for anything but bit-wise functions. I don't think i was ever taught they could be used for anything besides bit-wise functions

murgatroid99

@ToxicFrog I have no idea. At this point I'm mainly thinking about C, because I know that better

ToxicFrog

@Dragonrage this is the first I'm hearing about it, but I also have barely used C#

I mean, you can use | as a boolean operator in C because C doesn't distinguish between bools and ints, but & is inviting trouble

BlueBarren

I know I've used them before I just forget what

murgatroid99

@Dragonrage In C, at least, true and false are usually just 1 and 0, so bitwise functions are equivalent to boolean expressions

Dragonrage

I've used c# quite a bit, but came from c++.

@murgatroid99 that makes sense.

Lazers 2.0

18:09

-2

Q: how do you use /title

How do you use /title? I used it like this "/title @a title {text:"you're fighting the castle",bold:true,italic:true,color:red}" and it gave me this error "[10:51:17] Invalid json: malformed JSON at line 1 column 3" Im trying to make something and I've been stuck for a while so if anyone knows pl...

minecraft minecraft-commands

ToxicFrog

@murgatroid99 the beartrap there is that false is 0 and nonzero is true, so you can end up in a situation where x && y is true but x & y is false, because x and y have different bits set

Dragonrage

I think most of the time I've used bit-wise stuff was when I was dealing with enums

murgatroid99

@ToxicFrog Hence "usually". true is usually defined as 1, so as long as you only use boolean constants for boolean values, the bitwise operations will work fine

ToxicFrog

*chance.

@Dragonrage for me it's usually when writing drivers, or interacting with ancient APIs that packed all their options into a flag value rather than passing a struct or something.

fredley

It’s Thursday. How many people have lost their healthcare today?

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on January 9, 2014 at 9:49 PM

GodEmperorDune

18:14

@fredley hue

ToxicFrog

Has the vote happened yet?

GodEmperorDune

@ToxicFrog going on right now

wsj.com/livecoverage/house-gop-obamacare-repeal-bill-vote

Unionhawk

Hold onto your butts

Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet

Tweeted by ajjaffe on May 4, 2017 at 5:50 PM

Tim Stone

@ToxicFrog Yeah, it passed the House

I mean, unless some GOP member has a soul all of a sudden

Avery

Tim Stone

18:19

But they're past the mark now

Unionhawk

Welp

ToxicFrog

@TimStone does that mean it's effectively done, or does it go to the Senate next?

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone alright, time to give all of them shit when they go to town halls next week

@ToxicFrog senate next but that can take months

ToxicFrog

nods

GodEmperorDune

nytimes.com/2017/05/04/us/politics/…

yeah it passed

Yuuki

18:20

3

Unionhawk

Yeah, at least we won this for the #resistance

eyes on the prize https://t.co/imkdQ0l3tO

Tweeted by liberalism_txt on May 4, 2017 at 4:26 AM

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki hue

Unionhawk

https://t.co/L6PeObxUvL

Tweeted by KrangTNelson on May 4, 2017 at 5:37 PM

God fucking dammit pelosi

Yuuki

> They know it won't pass, but they can go back to their constituents and say "We got it repealed, but the senate and those liberals screwed you over"

Avery

ToxicFrog

18:23

I sure hope it won't pass.

Avery

god dammit

Unionhawk

This whole debacle also proves that Freedom Caucus is the only GOP group that does not cave

If you get those assholes on board, moderates will follow

ToxicFrog

Yeah, I noted in that article that they got the votes for this one by catering to the "not far enough" faction rather than the "too far" faction

Which is, well, completely unsurprising in every way

But still

Unionhawk

WELL WE'LL GET TO SEE IF MY EMPLOYER HEALTHCARE CHANGES PRETTY SOON BECAUSE GUESS WHAT THATS A THING

217-213

20 R nays 1 R not vote

MBraedley

@Unionhawk That was the final count? Damn, that's close

Wait, that's only 430 votes. Who else didn't vote?

Avery

18:28

rip usa

Unionhawk

@MBraedley idk

MBraedley

One is probably Speaker Ryan, so if the other 4 voted, it still would have passed.

Although there are seats that are still empty, so that's probably it.

Tim Stone

Sid Meierâ€™s CivilizationÂ® VI - On Sale Now, 33% off! #SteamSale http://zpr.io/PFjGL https://t.co/AzlQm5hddA

Tweeted by steam_games on May 4, 2017 at 6:30 PM

Unicode: It's Hard™

BlueBarren

What the heck is wrong with me?

Unionhawk

Ugh goddammit @housedemocrats

House Democrats visibly joyful after AHCA passes. Singing "hey hey hey goodbye" at GOP colleagues, implying they'll lose seats for this

Tweeted by byrdinator on May 4, 2017 at 6:18 PM

MBraedley

18:31

United States House of Representatives

The United States House of Representatives is the lower chamber of the United States Congress which, along with the Senate, composes the legislature of the United States. The composition and powers of the House are established by Article One of the United States Constitution. The House is composed of representatives who sit in congressional districts which are allocated to each of the 50 states on a basis of population as measured by the U.S. Census, with each district entitled one representative. Since its inception in 1789, all representatives are elected popularly. The total number of voting...

BlueBarren

past me and present me clearly aren't in sync

MBraedley

4 vacant seats

Unionhawk

And goddammit @housegop

13 mins ago, by Unionhawk

Cases upon cases of beer just rolled into the Capitol on a cart covered in a sheet. Spotted Bud Light peeking out from the sheet

Tweeted by ajjaffe on May 4, 2017 at 5:50 PM

Fuck all 431 of you

Yuuki

Can we just have the Revolutionary War and start all over again?

We can just have a fake one, @fredley.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki just surrender your country to Canada

Yuuki

18:33

@BlueBarren No, that's the War of 1812.

BlueBarren

and be prepared to like maple syrup

@Yuuki we don't talk about the war of 1812

Yuuki

What is this, the War of 1812 Club?

BlueBarren

@Yuuki yes

wanna join?

Unionhawk

Like, you're not incorrect that this will be a bloodbath in 18, but come on guys

In unrelated news

Our new hire's been killing it https://t.co/I52yfP0mOA

Tweeted by Arbys on May 4, 2017 at 3:00 PM

Yes

BlueBarren

I wish I could see that media

MBraedley

18:37

@BlueBarren I feel your pain

BlueBarren

@MBraedley let's cry together

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk who is hana?

Unionhawk

D.va

GodEmperorDune

because it looks like D.Va

Unionhawk

It is, real name Hana Song

GodEmperorDune

18:38

i see

@Arbys So thaaaats where she's been instead of on the payload 😉✌🏼

Tweeted by Blizzard_Ent on May 4, 2017 at 4:03 PM in reply to Arbys

Yuuki

@Unionhawk Their new Twitter hire has definitely been killing it.

BlueBarren

wow now I really wish I could see that image...

GodEmperorDune

also i am not sure if that is a real person creepily cropped or a mannequin

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Part of me wants to say mannequin.

The fingers look weird.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki it's screaming uncanny valley to me

BlueBarren

18:40

why is Arby's randomly putting D.va on their stuff?

GodEmperorDune

@BlueBarren twitter

also memes

BlueBarren

but I don't understand this from a marketing standpoint

wouldn't it be better do something more mainstream?

Yuuki

@BlueBarren We're talking about it right now.

Therefore, the marketing is working.

BlueBarren

cc: @MetaEd

GodEmperorDune

marketing teams have scienced that by making memes with their official twitter accounts, millennials are more likely to buy their products, or something like that

Yuuki

18:41

@BlueBarren Also, are you saying Overwatch is not mainstream?

BlueBarren

@Yuuki yes?

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki they put all those "trump mains hanzo" posters and it didn't sway the election

Unionhawk

Arby's sponsors esports what do you want

HazyKingdom

@BlueBarren I think Overwatch has like 30 mil units sold man.

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk doritos and mtndew

Yuuki

18:42

@Unionhawk After NA's performance at MSI, I'm not surprised.

Unionhawk

Like, they're a presenting sponsor for EL

Tim Stone

It's ya boi, @Unionhawk

Yuuki

Yeah, they won but holy f--k did TSM poop the bed on that Bo5 against GAM.

Unionhawk

@TimStone I take it all back Rob you're not useless

Yuuki

I think one comment put it in perspective. "America losing in the jungle against Vietnam. As is tradition."

Tim Stone

18:44

BREAKING: Senate will wait for CBO score before voting on healthcare bill - Majority leader Mitch McConnell… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/860202745193783297

Tweeted by ReutersPolitics on May 4, 2017 at 6:41 PM

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki isn't Bo5 that yotuber that lost custody of his kids for the "pranks"

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune I think that's Do5 or whatever.

BlueBarren

@Yuuki so that reddit post went no where

Yuuki

Bo5 stands for "best of five".

Unionhawk

@TimStone this gives the Senate a huge opportunity to look like professionals tbh

GodEmperorDune

18:45

@Unionhawk if the dems can't use this vote to flip the house in 2018, i dunno what's left

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: How much storage does Nier take on ps3?

So I'm thinking about buying Nier for my ps3. How much storage does it take up?

nier

Tim Stone

Oh wait it turns out I can legally give to campaigns which is good because I totally ignored that for the Presidential election

Contribution sites really need to properly clarify the "I am not a federal contractor" restriction

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone is the new Soros

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune if anyone can fuck this up it's the Dems lol

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk sadly yes

gerrymandering is gerrymandering, but letting people run unopposed? just stupid

Unionhawk

18:48

There's an actblue going around to flip CA-49 which was close and also he cast the last vote needed for victory

Tim Stone

@GodEmperorDune I wish I had that kind of cash

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk which rep is that?

Fluttershy

Unionhawk

Idk

But the vote last time was within a couple thousand

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk argh, fucking darrell issa

> Ethnicity: 61.5% White; 2.3% Black; 6.9% Asian; 25.8% Hispanic; 3.5% other;

"none of your business how i'm going to vote"

arggggggggggggggggggg

Unionhawk

18:50

I'm going to work to primary Davidson (OH-8) since we're pretty deep red but he's an artifact of the tea party

MBraedley

@Fluttershy So maybe a metre right now?

Unionhawk

And as such literally Paul Ryan would be better

user15026

is so lost right now

Unionhawk

Current obvious targets seem to be districts Clinton and GOP reps won

Yuuki

@Ash presents a compass

Unionhawk

18:52

@Ash they did the thing

user15026

@Unionhawk who did what thing

MBraedley

@Ash House GOP passed the AHCA. Barely

Unionhawk

And since we live on the dumbest possible timeline they brought in cases to celebrate

GodEmperorDune

@Ash the fuck yall healthcare bill

MBraedley

Chances of it making it through the senate (at least right now) are very low.

GodEmperorDune

18:53

@MBraedley the senate approved DeVos with 50 votes

Unionhawk

@MBraedley god I hope so

GodEmperorDune

i wonder if president warren will fix all of this in 2020

Unionhawk

1 min ago, by Unionhawk

@MBraedley god I hope so

Avery

@GodEmperorDune obama should run on 2020

michelle obama.

GodEmperorDune

@Avery doubtful

Unionhawk

18:56

Like actually, I'd be down with voting for Warren and not just in a "well Bernie didn't win so fiiiiiine" sense

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune There are 8 republican senators up for re-election in 2018. They'll cave to their constituents.

GodEmperorDune

Warren has the charisma that Hillary didn't

Tim Stone

.@Reince exiting gop cloakroom tells me: "The president stepped up and helped punt the ball into the end zone."

Tweeted by mollyhooper on May 4, 2017 at 6:46 PM

Unionhawk

Yep

GodEmperorDune

but wall street will be running scared and pour money into whoever opposes her

Tim Stone

18:57

THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW SPORTS WHAT THE HELL

Unionhawk

@TimStone touchdown

@GodEmperorDune yes and then we'll end up with some bullshit candidate like Jeb Bush Pretending To Be A Democrat

GodEmperorDune

@TimStone and here i thought the messed up sports refrances in veep came out of nowhere

HazyKingdom

America just got a little darker by that comment.

MBraedley

@TimStone Um, punting the ball into the end zone is a bad thing. It gives your opponent an extra 20 yards (or more). Which might actually be an apt comparison.

HazyKingdom

Aka touchback.

Unionhawk

18:58

@MBraedley 25 now iirc

In pro

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk but along those lines, she'll probably spend political capital on financial system reform instead of health insurance stuff

Unionhawk

It's way more punishing now

MBraedley

@Unionhawk I was thinking that, but I knew it was at least 20

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune I mean

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Administrative rights issues for games

Battlefield 1942 and Vietnam (and a few other games, mainly older ones) have stopped working on my windows computer (7 and above, xp still works). When I launch it, it says you need to be logged on with administrative rights but I am already. I've done research and it seems to be a problem with t...

windows battlefield-1942

GodEmperorDune

18:59

@MBraedley sometimes you want to do that if they have a really good returner

Unionhawk

A lot of things are going to end up being on fire

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk yeah

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