The Bridge

Avery

15:02

now this is just rude

Arperum

@BlueBarren Yea, in this case it's a clear case of ban-circumvention, which is something SO really does not like.

Nzall

26

Q: Multiple accounts being used to dodge a question ban

From what I've read on meta, multiple accounts by one user are "OK" as long as they aren't being used as "sock-puppets" to upvote eachother. Well I've come across someone who is registering multiple accounts to admittedly evade a question ban. This is a recent exchange I had with this person: ...

you risk getting banned for a year

@Avery connection refused on this end

BlueBarren

@Arperum well I was trying to keep my work stuff separate from my regular account but that didn't end up happening anyways so I'll probably just merge them

Avery

@Nzall fixed

god

dammit

Arperum

@Nzall Or forever.

> please don't try and evade our bans, we will end up blocking your IP range and disable you accessing the sites at all.

Nzall

15:07

@BlueBarren Whatever you do, you will probably get a lengthy ban

Avery

stack doesn't do IP bans anymore iirc

BlueBarren

@Arperum well now that I know this I should obviously merge the accounts

Avery

@Avery I read the replies to jimmywales' tweet about this topic, people are like "REMOVE LIES AND PKK SUPPORT AND WE WILL UNBLOCK!!!! YOU ARE SUBJECTIVEE"

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum or not at all!

I've seen that happen

Avery

Fluttershy

15:09

Here's a reporter using a metaphor with Donald Trump, who is confused and talks about what he literally sees, then… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/859400937680588805

Tweeted by Ugarles on May 2, 2017 at 1:35 PM

Tim Stone

A metaphor George W Bush used, no less

Private Pansy

2 days ago, by Private Pansy

Not The White House Correspondents' Dinner, Pt. 7: Special Guest George W. Bush

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Avery

Ahh, handing out blocks, best way to start a dat

*day

badp

arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/…

> The Surface Laptop ships with Windows 10 S, the new cut-down Windows 10 SKU Microsoft announced today. Out of the box, the operating system can only run apps from the Windows Store, though it's possible to upgrade it to a full Windows 10 Pro install for $50.

just what I wanted for christmas

Avery

what

Kevin van der Velden

15:19

Hmm, I have a USB A male to USB A male cable

BlueBarren

@KevinvanderVelden uhh okay?

thanks for sharing?

Kevin van der Velden

Those should not exist

BlueBarren

why not?

Kevin van der Velden

As in, the standard explicitly forbids them

DanmakuGrazer

@KevinvanderVelden That's bigotry!

Private Pansy

15:20

@KevinvanderVelden Huh, TIL

Kevin van der Velden

As in, plugging them into several devices can blow them up

True, most devices are protected against that but it can still be a bad short

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden I didn't think USB A can carry enough power for that to happen

BlueBarren

so what you're saying is I shouldn't daisy chain devices together using USB cords?

Kevin van der Velden

@PrivatePansy sensitive electronics are easy to blow up =p

@BlueBarren not with USB A male to USB A male

USB A male to USB A female is fine

Private Pansy

@KevinvanderVelden I was about to say you probably shouldn't have sensitive electronics on the other end of USB, but then again that is what the U in USB stands for

BlueBarren

15:22

@KevinvanderVelden I only have male to male USB cords though

Kevin van der Velden

male USB A to male USB something other than A is fine

Avery

@KevinvanderVelden I have one

for extensions

BlueBarren

@KevinvanderVelden wait, what's this "A" you keep referring to?

Kevin van der Velden

Yes, I have a thing you can plug in to the computer at both ends

Private Pansy

@BlueBarren The "big" USB plug

Kevin van der Velden

15:23

USB A male ^

Any other USB form is not USB A

BlueBarren

@PrivatePansy oh yeah

USB-C

Kevin van der Velden

USB B is printer

BlueBarren

yeah okay

Kevin van der Velden

etc

BlueBarren

so a to c is fine?

what about c to c?

Kevin van der Velden

15:24

Not sure

BlueBarren

I want to plug my Switch into @Yuuki's Switch

for uh "Science" reasons

Kevin van der Velden

I think those are fine?

Private Pansy

@BlueBarren Kinky

Yuuki

@BlueBarren I need an adult.

Kevin van der Velden

Because they're for both host and client, where USB A is only for host

BlueBarren

15:25

@Yuuki lucky for I'm legally an adult in my country

Kevin van der Velden

(that's also the issue, you shouldn't plug a host into a host)

BlueBarren

crap

SO supports emails you things

I can't access my one email at work

but then I can't access my work email from home

Private Pansy

@BlueBarren Not even from your phone?

If you have cellular data, that is

BlueBarren

@PrivatePansy my cell signal isn't strong enough for data at my desk

and it's raining so I can't go outside

Private Pansy

@badp Oh, it's suppose to be a Chromebook competitor

badp

15:30

@PrivatePansy Christmas intensifies

Private Pansy

That makes... a little bit more sense. Still weird that they're crippling the OS for no actual technical reasons (unlike Windows RT)

Won't be the first time Microsoft shot itself in the foot. Let's see how this goes.

badp

also

> A Core i5 model with 4GB of RAM and a 128GB SSD will start at $999.

isn't that the price of a Pixel?

Private Pansy

@badp Huh, they even cloned the Chromebook Pixel!

badp

back when Google was selling the Pixel

it didn't exactly fly off the shelves

Private Pansy

@badp *implying Google actually sold a Pixel

badp

15:32

I've seen a dozen of Pixels

...in the Google offices in Munich

their displays were easily the brightest in the room, easily outclassing anything Apple from the time

Private Pansy

Oh. See I thought you'd have the same reaction I had when I saw a Blackberry Passport in the wild

But multiplied twelve-fold

Tim Stone

@PrivatePansy It'd make sense if it impacted the price point but they're either taking a hit on the $50 upgrade or it's only cutting $50 which on a $1000 machine seems kind of pointless

Private Pansy

First bewilderment, then curiosity, then a feeling of "but why?"

And a twang of disgust and envy that there are people in the world with that much money to burn

badp

I mean

it was a bit nicer than my intern-grade chromebook

and that thing had ssh, which made it technically more than enough for work

or at least the kind of work I'd want to do from home

I'd just ssh into my desktop in the office and do the things.

Private Pansy

So much bat jokes

badp

15:38

It also ran much faster than your average spinny-disk laptop of the time

Private Pansy

The lecturer is presenting Nagel's attack on materialism

badp

and they still sell spinny-disk laptops today

Private Pansy

Which involves a bat analogy

badp

in 2017

HazyKingdom

Uh, am I dreaming? Shemue 3 releases Dec 2017(ish)

badp

15:38

it is a travesty

Private Pansy

@HazyKingdom Well, Duke Nukem Forever got released

HazyKingdom

@PrivatePansy Egh, don't remind me.

Private Pansy

@badp Just by dint of having less overhead at the OS level?

Tim Stone

@badp Economics of scale and whatnot but still crazy the physical assembly of spinny-disks is still cost-effective over SSDs

Private Pansy

I mean, in addition to the SSD

badp

15:39

@PrivatePansy it didn't have a spinny-disk, but a tiny SSD.

Fluttershy

@HazyKingdom I just hope they re-release Shenmue and Shenmue II.

badp

8-10 seconds boot times

Fluttershy

I loved Shenmue, but Shenmue II was super buggy on the Xbox, and kept freezing on me, so I never got to finish it. :(

Tim Stone

@badp Now you can SSH with a Chrome App and rejoice

badp

and it was some bottom-tier Acer thing

@TimStone that was already the case, yes.

Tim Stone

15:40

Ah, good, good

badp

"Chromoting" as the slang goes

Private Pansy

HazyKingdom

@Fluttershy Ha, I know! Shenmue I on the DC was pretty legendary. Bummer on II, I didn't finish it either.

Tim Stone

@badp Kids these days

Private Pansy

The lecturer has become a memelord

badp

15:41

including the Chrome built-in RDP thing

Private Pansy

I'm strangely okay with this

@badp No

badp

@PrivatePansy google it.

Avery

@badp heh, noob! 4sec here.

Tim Stone

@badp Oh right, I forgot about that

Avery

yay linux

Fluttershy

15:42

So, I've pretty much exclusively been listening to the Your Name OST since seeing the movie. And I'm sad I have to wait til October to see it again.

Avery

Private Pansy

@badp I know, I use Chrome RDP myself. I still do not endorse this neologism

Avery

@Fluttershy hmm, self note, I should watch kimi no na wa...

badp

@Avery is your laptop a bottom-tier Acer €400 thing from 2013

Fluttershy

@Avery Yes. Easily one of the best, if not the best, anime movies I've ever seen.

Avery

15:43

@badp my laptop a bottom-tier Dell €400 thing from 2013

Tim Stone

I have the original Samsung Chromebook and…owning it is about all I can say about it

Avery

literally.

badp

@Avery SEE NOT THE SAME THING

Yuuki

@Fluttershy I saw on Sunday.

Fluttershy

@Yuuki What'd you think?

Yuuki

15:44

It was definitely more cheerful than some of Shinkai's previous work.

Avery

@badp try arch

badp

I never cared to time the boot time of my work Dell because the vast majority of it is taken by me typing the decryption password

Fluttershy

@Yuuki I've not seen any of his other stuff, but I'm really interested in it seeing more now.

Avery

heh

Yuuki

It has the same problems I see with most/all movies, though I chalk that up to the medium rather than any faults of the film itself.

In that I don't get enough character development for the emotional impact to actually hit.

badp

15:45

> Startup finished in 15.202s (kernel) + 11.288s (userspace) = 26.490s

Private Pansy

@Yuuki "Ugh! I have to watch things! With my eyes!"

badp

dunno if systemd-analyze counts the password time

but yeah, not 4 seconds.

Avery

ooh gits2017 dropped on... usual places.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki Ah, yeah, I think that's due more to the lack of a proper first-person perspective when you compare to, say, a novel

Avery

unlike kimi no na wa which still only has 480p version :(

Yuuki

15:46

For me, most of the emotional impact seems to come from the idea of the conflict rather than any sense of attachment to the characters.

Private Pansy

@Avery Are you sure you wouldn't rather (re)watch the original + sequels?

Avery

I will

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy Eh, more of a function of "so all this character development has to happen in 2 hours?"

Fluttershy

@PrivatePansy I've always felt like anime does a better job of this than live-action films. In a lot of live-action movies, you don't ever get a sense for what's going on in the character's mind, but anime isn't afraid to vocalize thought.

Yuuki

I just don't think movies do a good job of portraying relationships from start to end.

Unless that start to end is a matter of a few weeks.

Fluttershy

15:50

@Yuuki Chasing Amy does this really well, I think.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki I don't know, I thought eg. Eternal Sunshine did some incredible job with character development and ensuring the viewers are invested in the characters

Fluttershy

Also has one of the most realistic break-up fights I've ever seen on film.

Private Pansy

To be fair it did it by not showing most of the relationship, but leaving it up to the viewer to infer

Fluttershy

BlueBarren

I should really get better cell service

Fluttershy

15:52

Private Pansy

If you have never watched it, by the way, Eternal Sunshine of the Spotness Mind is really good

badp

@Unionhawk WHY DO YOU HATE INTERNET FREEDOM?

Fluttershy

There. Hike pictures. :3

2

GodEmperorDune

@Fluttershy that is a gorgeous area, where is it?

Private Pansy

Ugh, outdoors.

*closes curtains*

Yuuki

15:53

I dunno, I feel like Kimi no Na wa's character development via montage ended up hurting it more than helping.

Fluttershy

@GodEmperorDune Crowder Mountain in North Carolina.

Private Pansy

Those cliffs are nice

Fluttershy

@PrivatePansy People were climbing them! :D

GodEmperorDune

@Fluttershy nice, i'll have to visit if i am ever in the area

Private Pansy

Also surprisingly unspoiled by guardrails

DanmakuGrazer

15:54

@Fluttershy Oooooh, I like these

Lazers 2.0

1

Q: What are all of Jessica's hangman papers and what do they say?

While progressing through Outlast 2, there are multiple times where you are taken to what appears to be another dimension of the Catholic school that Blake, Jessica, and Lynn attended. During these "flashbacks" to the school, you will find pieces of paper with a hangman game left behind by Jessi...

outlast-2

Private Pansy

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy "artificial intelligence"

Private Pansy

Why do I bother reading these lecture slides

These puns are terrible

Yuuki

@PrivatePansy I find it interesting that the lecturer felt it necessary to give Vaas an additional "villain" label.

GodEmperorDune

15:58

wait so in addition to mega graphics cards, now gaming PCs re going to need powerful CPUs to run NPC AI?

fredley

asking the important questions

Private Pansy

Which is why I'm sharing them

@Yuuki He looks so much like the good guys!

@fredley Isn't it a collective noun?

@GodEmperorDune I do think the lecturer is overestimating the sophistication of today's AI, but that's not essential to the actual argument

fredley

@PrivatePansy A sheeple of people?

Private Pansy

Which is a thought experiment, ie. the simulation argument

@fredley Eh, it sounded better in my head

GodEmperorDune

@PrivatePansy maybe we're all being simulated. :thinking:

@fredley ur face is a sheeple

it kinda works

Private Pansy

16:01

@GodEmperorDune Brain in the jar, etc., yes, that's the crux of the argument

Avery

@GodEmperorDune that's a possibility and that kinda explains everything

fredley

@GodEmperorDune ur face is sheeple

ur face is a sheerson?

sheeman?

seendividual?

peep?

sheep?

Avery

@GodEmperorDune best way to emulate a human is using the Random() feature of your language of preference.

GodEmperorDune

i've heard people say "you're such a sheeple"

Private Pansy

@Avery @GodEmperorDune Specifically, Bostrom's version of the argument: simulation-argument.com/simulation.html

Avery

16:03

which is relatively cheap

Private Pansy

Personally I think he's a hack, but I don't have a good reply to this specific argument

MBraedley

@fredley A lambson, obviously

Private Pansy

Maybe sheeple is uncountable

Oh god, and now he's butchering Moore's law

MBraedley

(with extra insult for implying the person is childlike)

Private Pansy

This is a bit painful

Thankfully this is a recording, so I can skip this

GodEmperorDune

16:09

@PrivatePansy wow this took a dark turn

Avery

@GodEmperorDune keep playing

GodEmperorDune

@Avery yeah i completed it

Avery

ah

@Fluttershy :O so much green

Private Pansy

@GodEmperorDune Thanks! You can read down from that message - I think you'd like the original paper the project was based on

Avery

spot.colorado.edu/~heathwoo/readings/norcross.pdf

GodEmperorDune

16:14

@PrivatePansy crap i closed it too early

Fluttershy

@Avery There was a lot of green.

GodEmperorDune

@Avery thanks fam

Avery

@Fluttershy (how did the amazon thing go, btw?)

Fluttershy

@Avery I'm not really sure. It wasn't an interview. It was a conference where they had us all do a drug test, then went over what comes next. But there was some confusion. They said it was a part-time position, but my application said full-time. So they gave me a website to go to where I could email someone.

Avery

Ah, best of luck with emailing :)

GodEmperorDune

16:17

@Fluttershy companies are weird

GnomeSlice

How Tall Is Grant?

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Lazers 2.0

-2

Q: Minecraft Forge 1.7.10 isn't showing up in folder

I downloaded Minecraft Forge 1.7.10 and it successfully said it was downloaded, but it is not shown in my Minecraft versions folder. Does anyone know how to fix it?

minecraft minecraft-forge

djsmiley2k

@Fluttershy This warehouse work or something else?

Fluttershy

@djsmiley2k Warehouse work. They're building a new fulfillment center in Charlotte.

djsmiley2k

Ah

they building one here too

I can see it from my house, i think

(i can see something, that is a warehouse, in it's general direction)

Private Pansy

16:22

@Fluttershy There are stories about Amazon warehouse work. Not good ones.

djsmiley2k

it's the most terrible placed thing ever

there are, but work is work...

Fluttershy

@PrivatePansy I figure it can't be any worse than my time at the lumber yard or slaughterhouse, so...

GnomeSlice

PLAYMORE - Counting Miles [Simplify.]

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@Avery @GodEmperorDune this is dope

new release on simplify

Avery

accurate

Private Pansy

So apparently you can't name files nul on Windows reddit.com/r/rust/comments/68hemz/…

Avery

16:33

or con

Steven Vascellaro

My request to rename the [simcity] tag seems to have gained a good amount of traction. What should I do now? gaming.meta.stackexchange.com/q/12395/181240

Private Pansy

@StevenVascellaro We petition the king, of course!

Steven Vascellaro

@PrivatePansy I assume 'the king' in this case would be 'the mods' :P

Private Pansy

Nah, they can't chop ya head off

Steven Vascellaro

But I like me head! D:

It's all pixely

Welp. I think the SE API just went down. User profiles and the iOS apps are borked

Yuuki

16:47

@StevenVascellaro No, we had a damp lassie hurl a kukri at someone.

That person is now King of SE.

Private Pansy

@Yuuki They also fit the requirement of being much pro

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