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14:00
@Unionhawk I already use https chat, it works fine except for logging in which redirects to http
Does it complain about http oneboxes?
@Unionhawk yes.
Or it does for me anyway.
Many mixed content warnings, though all actual chat related things work fine
That's the main reason why SE https has been such a major endeavor
That's what I mean. It works, it just complains about things through mixed content warnings.
14:02
Skype you liar
> You KNOW there's someone who "just started" at United PR who is sitting in the office like a shell shocked teenager on the beaches of Normandy.
Don't give me an available notification when that person is clearly in a meeting
@Yuuki What happened?
"this person is now available" person still has a red indicator and a status of in a meeting
@Arperum they reaccomodated a passenger's face
Basically
@Arperum A man on a United flight was "re-accommodated" (beaten nearly unconscious) to make room for a United employee because they had "overbooked" (they do this consistently as a business practice) the flight.
14:04
@Unionhawk Oh yea, that. I know about that, just didn't remember the name of the flight company.
Why overbooking is allowed is a mystery to me
Like, yea some people don't make their flight
@Unionhawk Because fuck you.
Just deal with the empty seats you arseholes
Or tell standby passengers that sorry you can catch the next one
14:06
@Unionhawk it mathematically makes sense, but sucks hard irl
Heh, they've lost 800 million dollars in valuation already
Even if you're going to overbook why would you seat everyone when you know you have four of your employees to get on the plane?
Because iirc that's who they were trying to seat, right?
(they started at 22.5billion)
@BlueBarren this. And why do they need to get on plane?
14:07
@KevinvanderVelden people have been canceling travel plans with united all the way through August
@Avery apparently the airline employees needed to be in that city by Monday for work
you're telling me there's no other flight by the end of the week?
actually I take that back
@BlueBarren oh. I guess the doctor didn't need to be in that city by Monday for work (which involves human lives, you know)
just because I heard about the story this Monday doesn't mean it didn't happen before that
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Q: Does Winston's Tesla Coil do any damage through armor?

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Q: What does the season pass include?

MakoWhat does the CoD Black Ops 2 season pass include? Does it unlock all available zombie maps?

If you're an airline, you're literally in the business of logistics
14:09
@Avery have they confirmed he's actually a doctor? (and what kind of doctor?) Because from what I heard all the information they have relating to that is just the passenger saying he's a doctor
@BlueBarren They let him back on the plane, I guess that says something.
@BlueBarren AFAIK No, and it both matters and does not
Needing to immediately seat 4 standby passengers because they are your employees without securing 4 seats before anyone gets on the plane, no, before anyone is checked in, seems like poor planning
@Arperum did they? Personally I wouldn't want to be on that flight after they did that to me
he had a concussion and left back afaik
14:11
@Avery Well it only matters to the degree of confirming what the guy was saying. It doesn't make a difference in regards to them physically forcing him off plane and him not wanting to get off
@Yuuki That SWOTR news made terrible Tuesday a little less terrible.
And it's not like airline profit margins are such that they actually need to overbooking flights to get by
Really overbooking is stupid
Also beating people up is stupid
It's just a shitty way airlines make slightly extra money with usually minimal risk (since about 5% or so miss their flights)
But when you overbook and that many people show up, guess what now you are fucked
There's been more than one story this past week about Air Canada bumping passengers. However, there are two important aspects that are different from the United situation in both cases. 1) they weren't assigned a seat when they checked in (because in both cases they checked in when they got to the airport) and 2) they never got on the plane. Once you assign a passenger a seat, you're not supposed to bump them without their consent.
14:13
@BlueBarren No one should be treated like that, no matter their occupation. But some jobs are more urgency than others, so even if this was going to happen (not saying that it should), it shouldn't've happened to a person with a job that is this urgent.
The Air Canada Passengers were complaining "I'm a paying customer, and I booked this flight X months ago, so why am I not on the flight?" and the answer is you didn't check in the night before.
@MBraedley apparently in the US you have to compensate a minimum of $1300 if you're going to bump someone off of a flight that causes them more than a 2 hour delay or something? (Obviously if the person in question agrees to that)
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Q: Do we really need this "longplay" tag?

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the funny thing is the flight wasn't really overbooked
from what I understand
@Avery but there are also different degrees of doctor so if we don't know what kind of doctor he is how do you know if there's a certain amount of urgency or not?
14:15
@BlueBarren That's if you bump them involuntarily (and it's 4x the cost of the ticket from what I've read), but you're still supposed to do that before they get on the plane.
what if he was an eye doctor?
everyone was sat down, then they suddenly decided that four employees had to be on that flight
isn't that correct?
I think so
@MBraedley ah okay, personally I would take that amount of money
@BlueBarren Doesn't matter. Even if his job was literally just counting tiles on roadsides. Don't pull that shit.
14:17
@badp What's more is that airlines have reciprocal agreements for employees to fly on available flights if there isn't room on any of their own flights.
@BlueBarren Yes, in which case the problem would be solved. If people don't want the money, but instead get the flight, you have an issue.
And really at that point the play should have been "welp, everyone is on the plane, I guess we're just fucked" or "uh, star alliance? Help?"
@Arperum I don't dispute that they shouldn't have kicked him off, especially like they did I'm just curious if the guy is genuinely a doctor
@BlueBarren United was also only offering $800, which is fine if you're asking for volunteers.
@MBraedley Airlines will rarely offer you the legallly required 4x cost themselves.
14:18
@MBraedley did they say how much the flight was?
@MBraedley random removals when there's no volunteers is stupid TBH.
43 secs ago, by MBraedley
@BlueBarren United was also only offering $800, which is fine if you're asking for volunteers.
Because if $800 is at least x2 the cost of the flight I would consider taking it
Depending on my schedule
the people that haven't taken their seats, no matter how urgent their stuff is, shouldn't be able to take seats of people in the way of calling airport police on them.
14:19
if I can push stuff back sure why not?
@Avery like I said, the play here should have been "figure out literally any other solution, especially since you guys are in a huge multiairline alliance"
@Yuuki Again, that only applies if they're bumping you and you don't volunteer.
I just don't get how security got involved on this.
They said he was being violent, but like he was limp when they pulled him way.
I believe that they hit him
@HazyKingdom Airplane staff says "this guys need to be removed from the plane ASAP, he doesn't want to, get him off"
14:21
@BlueBarren I'm guessing around $340
I'm wondering if this qualifies as an airport case for the purposes of the newsletter cc @GodEmperorDune
Because there is no way united is getting out of this with just damaged PR
@Yuuki - Looks syntactically good. Thumbs Up!
@Unionhawk I hope the passenger sues them
@Yuuki looks fine
@BlueBarren oh it's america
That's pretty rough, I can see why this went international.
14:22
he surely will
@HazyKingdom Let's also not forget that United breaks guitars, among many other customer service gaffs over the years.
I wonder... if I volunteer to get off for the money on a flight to X on a company that's based in X (while still in Y, of course), which laws apply? X' laws or Y's laws?
That's interesting.
My talker.py script (which posts messages to chat) was working fine yesterday before I went home.
Come back and now there's an error stemming from the ChatExchange script/library/import.
@MBraedley - As a owner of several guitars, this has heightened my rage by several levels this Tuesday. lol but no seriously, have you guys ever actually traveled with United? They don't give a shit about your luggage or your person.
oh wait
I removed the username/password from my config file before I left last night.
And apparently, I also changed the room link to this room.
:|
14:29
lmao I went down a rabbit hole and opened up a relevant case only to find more reasons why United sucks https://t.co/RZBTK6ea2v
@Yuuki I'd recommend making it clear that it's from GameDeals
or that the account is a bot
@Avery The plan is to make a bot account once I finish testing and everything.
I can dig up one I already had if you want
actually wait, no, I don't have any over 25 rep. Except hoihoi (rip hoihoi)
@Yuuki FYI, your posts are flagged.
@Yuuki FYI, your posts are flagged.
@Avery yeah he's suspended atm
there was around 8-10 that were flagged
just saw
14:42
@Unionhawk Man, that's just horrible.
@Riker RIP @Yuuki
Also UNRIP @Yuuki
yep, he's been unsuspended
yeah WB @Yuuki
Well, I guess I don't need tea or coffee this morning.
@Yuuki drama's the best way to wake up
14:45
So I added a line to pre-pend every message with "This is a bot test, posting on Sandbox" for the time being.
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@Yuuki sorry that happened btw :(
Eh, no harm (well, no harm outside of about 3-4 minutes of bewilderment and "come on, guys") no foul.
@Yuuki tea is always required
@KevinvanderVelden Tea is a good thing to start mornings.
14:47
Man, I always get the interesting flags.
I'm fairly certain I still hold that record
I got a rickroll flagged
Heh
I've gotten banned for off-color self-deprecating remarks.
I got flagged for saying "don't fucking abuse flags" and got suspended
I think that's the most interesting flag I got.
I think I actually did get banned for "You know, that @Yuuki guy is an a-hole".
14:49
@Yuuki "Flagged for truth"?
I mean, that's my best guess.
I think I've only been flagged once or twice in here. For swearing.
How do you know if you've been flagged before?
Can you check it yourself?
People letting you know
Or seeing your messages removed.
14:51
or the 30 minute where you actually contribute to the world by doing your job
Followed by your chat window refreshing and the text box disappearing.
I haven't been banned yet.
The only time I've been flagged and it was removed I was away
@MBraedley Do you want to be?
(I've been flagged tons of times because someone decided to abuse flagging once or twice)
14:51
@StrixVaria No, even if it would improve my productivity at work
Ok.
:(
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Well, it "works". Now I need to make a bot account, get 25 rep, and then run a proper test over the weekend.
@Yuuki got to put that bot to work
it needs to earn a living
You can also explicitly invite them to a room if you're owner
14:55
@Yuuki I can handle that for you
@KevinvanderVelden Ooo, okay.
(give them explicit write access I think)
yeah
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@Yuuki lol please tell me that's fake.
Canada sounds amazing right now!
@HazyKingdom well contrary to public belief, their policies are stricter than USA (but they have some policies that are pretty good).
Oh hey, Yooka-Failee came out today.
Okay, he doesn't explicitly say that in the article (because I hope no one's that dumb).
But he does say that Ivanka has a lot of influence over Trump.
@Avery - Actually I feel that strict policies are totally okay as long as their justified and conducted through government processes. I do not like policies and actions that directly conflict with the nation's views because it causes the prez to profit.
15:05
huh cool
To where it's understandable that he would bomb Syria solely because Ivanka may or may not have told him to.
apparently links in 1-rep accounts are not parsed
yeah, iirc it's due to spam or something
@yuuki Still, the fact that someone who isn't even supposed to be oriented with politics is impacting the entire nation is seriously bad news.
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15:08
@HazyKingdom Yes. I believe that the policies of Canada are aimed at taking people that can benefit the country while trying to not damage citizens' chances of getting a job or having higher education.
@Avery Talk about a beautiful thing.
@bwDraco fancy
@Yuuki I'm confusing who is his daughter and who is his wife
Insert the Donald quote about Ivanka here
@Avery the one he repeatedly states is beautiful and that he'd have sex with her is his daughter
15:12
You know the one
@KevinvanderVelden ah
Yes that one
makes sense
The one living as far away from him as easily possible is his wife
New York is not far from DC
15:14
far from himself, close to his credit cards
Those are portable tho
Like, they make devices to carry credit cards in your pocket
Ivanka is the daughter and Meleena <- idk how to spell; is his wife
Melanie?
no
I tried to spell it like it sounds
@Avery remember, immigrants are bad unless they're trumps wives
15:16
I HATE SKYPE FOR BUSINESS STATUS NOTIFICATIONS
WHAT THE HELL
That's the third fakeout "this person is avai--jk in a meeting" notification I've gotten in 2 hours
@BlueBarren Ivana Marie was apparently his first wife and the second one Melanie
Melania.
@KevinvanderVelden I assumed we were talking presently
so I see no reason to mention his first wife
@Avery You have to cater to his age group. "a/s/l?"
15:18
@BlueBarren because we're talking about the mother of ivanka
And that's his first wife =p
According to ze googles
Well, ze wikipedias
Is Melania his second wife? I thought he had three marriages?
4th fakeout notification
Goddammit
Oh could be, ivana = n-1 and melanie = n, for some value of n I can't be bothered to look up right now
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Q: Replacing Quest Cards at Turn 1

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Skype you're fired
15:19
@KevinvanderVelden well when you said the one living as far away from him as possible I thought you were referring to Melania because she's living in New York
even though she's the first lady
@BlueBarren his daughter is from his previous marriage
Yeah but it's still his daughter
And the far away from him is his current wife
where as his first wife is no longer his wife
5 mins ago, by BlueBarren
Ivanka is the daughter and Meleena <- idk how to spell; is his wife
And I was responding to that ^
15:21
I'm already confused
yeah I didn't say Melania was Ivanka's mother
Where am I
I said she was Trump's wife
I think this is all semantics at this point
we all know the deal now
15:21
@Unionhawk nobody knows
@Yuuki insert joke based on the multiple reports of child abuse on him
But I do know how fast you're going!
CHAT! Important announcement
Almost weekend
:o
I thought it was Friday there for a moment
15:23
It will soon be weekend for a consecutive 8 days
After which there will be 2 days of not weekend and then 2 more days of weekend
That's not a weekend that's vacation
@Yuuki What the hell was down that hole that a cigarette could ignite it?!
Naah, it's a long weekend
15:24
the weekend starts on thursday though
it's only tuesday
@fredley It was most likely a sewer pipe so maybe trapped methane?
@BlueBarren I don't work on wednesdays
@Yuuki Also, ouch
@KevinvanderVelden livin' the dream.
And I took thursday and friday off, as well as next tuesday
15:25
@fredley One hell of a way to get tinnitus
@KevinvanderVelden ................................................................................‌​................... (can I be you?)
@HazyKingdom switch jobs, work 1 day less, get more money
@KevinvanderVelden Wow, blowing half your yearly vacation days in one week, how fancy.
(Yes I know you live in Europe where it's like a worker's paradise compared to the US)
I work 80% so I get 20 vacation days
My vacation allowance is actually pretty good
For entry level
15:26
I get 0 vacation days :D
I have unspecified, but I take ~25 a year or so
Move away from Trumptopia :D
@fredley if I ever get unlimited or something I'll aim for 30 (at 100%) because for it to be a perk you have to actually use it more than you'd get otherwise =p
Wow, I'm getting jacked at my job, only 20 days with 6 years under my belt.
I've got 20 days upon entry
But that's combined vacation sick
@KevinvanderVelden You in IT?
15:29
@HazyKingdom Yeah
@Unionhawk ... Same.
Apparently people who had more before got slightly shafted
One hour until Yooka-Laylee unlocks on Steam
I'm getting impatient
@KevinvanderVelden I need your job. llmao
20 days is the legal minimum of vacation days here (min hours vacation per year = hours worked per week * 4)
15:30
@quartata should've got a PS4 copy
@quartata Okay is this like a Banjo Kazooie revamp
@HazyKingdom yes
which is why I'm impatient
@HazyKingdom the words being used are "Spiritual Successor"
After 17 years hopefully it will have been worth the weight
@BlueBarren Nah
Actually I lied I get 18
Until 5 years service then I get 21
15:31
(also if you're sick during a vacation day you can apparently just call in sick and it counts as a sick day and not a vacation day)
@KevinvanderVelden - WOW ... that's an incredible policy.
@quartata you could've been playing it on Friday though!
@HazyKingdom legal minimum
@BlueBarren I don't have a PS4 though
feel free to call me a filthy pc casual
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15:32
@quartata Well I'm in the same boat
@KevinvanderVelden Unreal, I apparently work for the pits.
@BlueBarren Which are slowly turning into "spiritual disappointer".
@KevinvanderVelden I wouldn't have thought have doing that, but makes sense.
@KevinvanderVelden see, we combined our days, but this avoids "cough cough im sick wat no I'm not playing overwatch all day and being totally healthy why do u ask"
@Unionhawk wait you only have 18 vacation/sick days combined?
15:33
@Yuuki where's your proof YL is a disppointer?
I had 10 vacation and idk how many sick before
@BlueBarren they should have made an n64 version
That I actually could play
@KevinvanderVelden Well if you're sick it's your own fault.
@quartata uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
no
joke
15:34
@Ronan right Trumptopia
@quartata Sound logic my friend. <3
Well I mean I do still have my N64
Like I said, it avoids any potential "well prove you were sick to qualify this as sick time"
One of the few consoles I've kept
Since it's just "I'm taking PTO because reasons"
15:35
@Unionhawk How about just believing people?
@KevinvanderVelden That's a good perk
@Ronan pfff, why would we trust our employees?
Because I'm pretty sure at least 2 people in this room have claimed sick time on a game release day
>_>
@fredley move to the netherlands and you'll also receive this perk =p
@BlueBarren I'm keeping my expectations purposefully low.
This strategy has served me well in the past.
15:37
Potential downside: Proximity to badp, but you've already shown you can survive that
About the only thing I can get super-hyped about and not be disappointed is Monster Hunter.
@fredley If you've got "unlimited" vacation days then it doesn't really affect you.
Also if anyone has done that thing I just said, my money is on @TimStone and @Sterno
I wonder how many vacation days I get with my new job. Probably 25.
@Unionhawk I work from home so technically I can just be Very Busy
15:47
I'm going to count this
It counts, it's just extra devious
@Yuuki so does that mean you like MH Stories?
Is it out in the West already?
I haven't really messed with my 3DS in a long time since it's kinda borked.
No idea
@KevinvanderVelden That....could happen! Yay Brexit!

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