The Bridge

fredley

19:02

we do not need permission to make love real. get tingled on amazon today or donate directly to planned parenthood https://t.co/m0jgsxVucR

Tweeted by ChuckTingle on November 9, 2016 at 5:48 PM

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How do you read the radar in multiplayer?

I can't seem to make any correlation between the radar screen and where allies/enemies are in multiplayer modes in Titanfall 2. There are various shapes that can appear on the radar, like arrows, triangles, and diamonds. What do these mean? A whole 1/8th of the circle can be colored in the enem...

titanfall-2

0

Q: What is the point of the end-of-round escape sequence?

After a victor is declared in most multiplayer modes, a dropship comes to evacuate the losing team if they can make it there without dying and without the dropship being blown up. What's the point of all this? It just seems to waste time after this round and before the next round begins. After m...

titanfall-2

fredley

seen at Broad + Wharton https://t.co/U7zrDRHJhP

Tweeted by mindyisser on November 9, 2016 at 5:24 PM

gl America

Unionhawk

fuck

Wipqozn

@Sterno I'm hoping he's just doing a lot of pandering, and won't actually be as completely insane as he acts

Sterno

OH SHIT SOMEONE SPRAYPAINTED COUNTRY OVER

Yuuki

19:04

@Lazers2.0 It's basically TF2's end-of-round humiliation, I think.

Sterno

Did anyone in here actually beat Pillars of Eternity and/or the expansion?

I want a thumbs up or thumbs down

I have an important decision to make about abandoning it again and switching over to Tyranny, or actually finishing it for once

fredley

@Sterno I beat PoE

thumbs up

I want to play Tyranny

I'm hungry and tired, but I think I'm too hungry to get up and get food

I don't know what happens now

Wipqozn

@Sterno No

@Sterno Question: Do you think you'll enjoy playing through a CRPG again, or would you rather just play awhole new one? Let's be honest, money isn't concern, and your time is more valuable

Sterno

@fredley They make pizza delivery just for this thing

@Wipqozn I've already replayed most of the part I remember. I never got all that far

Fluttershy

@fredley Can you order in?

fredley

19:11

@Sterno Nah, it's so expensive, and the shop which sells nice pizza I can bake myself is ~2 minutes away

badp

if your election marathon needs a closure (I know mine does) let it be this

Sterno

@fredley Then I guess your only other choice is to sit there and starve.

fredley

The total Time To Pizza is also lower

Sterno

Or eat your cat.

fredley

14 mins ago, by fredley

@Wipqozn I have no animals

Sterno

19:12

@fredley THEN YOU LIED ON LIFEHACKS

HOW CAN YOU EVER BE TRUSTED AGAIN?

fredley

@Sterno yeah, maybe

Sterno

162

Q: How can I keep my cat off my keyboard?

This is a common scenario when typing: When the family assembled for Sunday dinner, With their minds made up that they wouldn't get thinner On Argentine joint, potato^DR&FTGYB`kuhadrggoy867rt98wouth4bfgdhjlkhdsfghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhf This happens beca...

technology pets

fredley

I'm literally as bad as Trump in that respect

Sterno

Literally as bad as Trump

fredley

@Sterno INB444

Sterno

19:13

:(

fredley

Man, you got inb4'd so hard

Sterno

Just for that, I'm going to bounty you another 500 rep

fredley

:(

Sterno

Awww... one bounty limit?

fredley

@Sterno To prevent rep-transfer I imagine

But don't worry, create a sock, give the bounty to the sock, then from the sock to me

Because it's bounties not votes it's totally legit

Sterno

19:15

There should just be a black hole I can dump it in

fredley

@Sterno Downvotes?

Sterno

Can you bounty Community?

fredley

You could bounty any other question

RIGHT ENOUGH OF THIS NONSENSE.

TIME TO PIZZ

Sterno

Is that a British thing?

You know, no one ever says "Great Britain". You should Make Britain Great Again.

Kevin van der Velden

We should have made America, Great Britain again

Yuuki

19:25

@KevinvanderVelden Did Brexit scuttle that as a viable option?

Kevin van der Velden

Not really, brexit is irrelevant to this

It's "just" one country saying "You know what, we'd like to be part of your country"

Sterno

Stuff like this is why you lost, Democrats

That literally feeds into why they don't want to vote for you

Wipqozn

Php7 added in try/catch for errors. What year is this.

How did that take so long

I bet trump uses php.

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno yeah that is not at all helpful

Kevin van der Velden

Let me guess, it only works for some errors, you can't rethrow them, you can't specify what to catch... anything else I'm missing?

GodEmperorDune

19:29

democrats need to stick to policies and facts

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How to make a implication gate using command blocks?

I have tons of two-lever implication gates in a map I'm making, and in some cases there isn't enough space to place it. The gate, a bit expanded for simplicity, looks like this: This setup does not output signal only when input 2 is on and input 1 is off (so it's kind of a reverse implication,...

minecraft minecraft-commands minecraft-redstone

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune With the prevalence of alternate "news" sites, that doesn't really matter much right now.

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil maybe they need to mess it up so bad that there is no possible way to spin out of it

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune That... is something that I'm actually terrified of happening.

Unionhawk

Popular vote: Hillary: 59,236,903 votes Donald: 59,085,787 votes The people elected Hillary, the system elected Donald

Tweeted by GeorgeTakei on November 9, 2016 at 5:27 PM

Ellesedil

19:33

I'm actually concerned that we're going to do 8 years of alternate energy investment within the next 4 years by actually running in the opposite direction. And then the bill will come due, but it will be too late do much about it and we'll now be behind other countries in our capabilities.

Yuuki

@Unionhawk 200,000 is a reaaaaaally close margin though.

Unionhawk

Yes

Yuuki

I'm not willing to out and out say "the people elected Hillary".

GodEmperorDune

Yuuki

@Unionhawk The system is... rigged?

GodEmperorDune

19:34

@Ellesedil just like how we gave up our lead in stem cell research in the 2000s

Unionhawk

@Yuuki It'd be recount city and waiting on absentees, but

GodEmperorDune

as much as i dislike the electoral college, everyone agreed to it up front

Yuuki

Oh hey, Justices Ginsberg, Breyer, and Kennedy are all around 80.

GodEmperorDune

by the rules we set out, trump won

MBraedley

@GodEmperorDune nobody alive agreed to it.

Kevin van der Velden

19:35

@Yuuki duh, gerrymandering, voter supression

user15026

The fact that all of the older customers I have spoken to today have been quite concerned about my cold and keep giving me advice and their home remedies is kinda cute

GodEmperorDune

@MBraedley we didn't agree to change it, so its there by status quo

user15026

(A number of them have suggested alcohol.)

GodEmperorDune

@KevinvanderVelden we used to have the voting rights act to stop that, but its gone now

MBraedley

@Ash These are smart people. You should listen to them.

fredley

19:37

Springtime for Hitler

►

Sterno

@Unionhawk Yeah. That's what... like .1% different?

Unionhawk

4 mins ago, by Unionhawk

@Yuuki It'd be recount city and waiting on absentees, but

Sterno

Either way, it's not our system.

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno yep

Unionhawk

Sure

But this is the second time in my lifetime it's come up

GodEmperorDune

19:39

but i guarantee he will talk about his "mandate"

Unionhawk

And I'm only fucking 22

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune VRA is still here, they just invalidated the clause that added additional scrutiny to states with historic voting violations.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki fair point, there are no longer any preventative measures in the VRA, it's only lawsuits after things are enacted

Yuuki

The Republicans have rather thoroughly shown that it's not the presidential race everyone needs to worry about. It's the legislatures and the state governments that matter. But Democrats have historically low turnout for state elections and midterm elections.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki yep

Yuuki

19:42

So yeah, for the next 2-4 years, the Republicans control all of government. State and both branches of federal.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki your DA changed though, right?

Yuuki

And if Ginsberg, Breyer, and/or Kennedy retire/die, then they'll also control federal judicial.

Unionhawk

But hey marajuana is legal in CA so we're going to be fine you guys

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune And our sheriff!

GodEmperorDune

also though historically republicans tend to fall in line when they are in charge, trump may have pissed off enough senators and congresspeople that they don't give him free reign

Yuuki

19:44

It's cold comfort, but I'll take what I can get.

GodEmperorDune

time to CArexit

Unionhawk

and also Ohio has >12% beer so hey we're going to be ok

GodEmperorDune

plus trump lied about everything before, maybe he lied about the platform too

Yuuki

It'll be interesting to see if the Republicans can solidify control over the entirety of the US government, both state and federal, what they'll do with that control, and how it pans out. And whether they can keep it in four years or so.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki 2020 state races are key because of census and redistricting

Yuuki

19:46

Populism is notoriously fickle, so we'll see if there's a surge in anti-Republican sentiment in the next election, depending on how the country goes.

@GodEmperorDune Don't ignore 2018, it'll set the stage for what's possible in 2020.

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki when they realize the trump can't do the vast majority of things he promised?

@Yuuki ugh, yeah

dammit all the votes are important

Yuuki

Whoo, voter responsibility sucks!

Sterno

RPS reviews Disney's Beauty and the Beast Activity Center

> The Activity Centre offers four mini-games/design tools, but there was but one question on young Connie’s mind: could she choose which dress Belle wore to the ball? Yes. Yes she could. 10/10, *****, GOTY. And then Belle dances in said dress, in an arrangement chosen by the child/miserable parent or guardian by selecting from a handful of different step types.

Dresses and dancing, looks like the cartoon, nail on the head. We watched the dance again and again, cycling between each colour of dress. Again! Again! Again! I gazed longingly at the Civilization VI icon on my desktop.

Yuuki

Oh wait, Tyranny's not out until tomorrow.

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

Marriage

Proposed Q&A site for q&A for married, engaged, dating couples and others about married life

Currently in definition.

1

Canada

Proposed Q&A site for anyone interested in or learning about Canada.

Currently in definition.

user15026

19:55

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment We're not that different

user15026

waits for "How do I move to Canada" example questions

GodEmperorDune

@Ash we need to learn more before we flee the states

Unionhawk

@Ash done and done

GodEmperorDune

hmm, parenting doesn't have a question about "how do i explain to my child that a "mean angry man" won the presidency over a "nice old lady"?"

Unionhawk

"fuck if I know"

Yuuki

20:01

@GodEmperorDune Wow, your kid's already speaking?

GodEmperorDune

one of my wife's friends from grad school is a child therapist. her appointments are filling up

@Yuuki my wife's friends' little girls

arda

...it still feels unreal

Unionhawk

"Trump won wat do" seems like a reasonable (but probably off-topic for most) question network-wide

Yuuki

Well, the short answer is that "when everyone is angry, they like other angry people".

GodEmperorDune

the response was along the lines of "it happens sometimes, but you still have to be a good person and be kind to others"

arda

20:02

I even saw predictions that said hillary has %98 chance of winning... but trump won. I still am confused tbh.

Unionhawk

Reasons why I should never be a parent: the first word out of a child listening to me will be "fuck", guaranteed

Like there's no doubt in my mind

Arperum

@arda Well, it's statistically plausible that the low percentage chance thing will happen at some point.

Unionhawk

@arda WE (clapping) DID (clapping) IT (clapping) 4CHAN

GodEmperorDune

@arda the way our electoral system works, getting bare pluralities in many states is more effective than large majorities in fewer states

Sterno

Pretty much this is what happens when a significant portion of the population feels like they're being ignored for years.

Unionhawk

20:04

yaaaaaaaaaaaaaay

Sterno

It's also why this crap shifts back and forth every decade

GodEmperorDune

538 said that polls needed to be off by a point or two for trump to win, and that's what happened

Unionhawk

Pretty much this is what happens when roughly 46 percent of the country thinks the current president whoever it may be is a demon (or at least not favorable)

Sterno

Most of you probably aren't old enough to remember "Anyone But Bush". I do!

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk who i fox news going to demonize now? obama is out and clinton is gone. they need a new antagonist

Unionhawk

20:06

@GodEmperorDune Matt Damon

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno with john kerry?

i remember

kerry was our mitt romney

Unionhawk

In fact the only one who might not be old enough to remember in the room is @arda

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune I think that was the first Bush against Clinton.

Unionhawk

Unless he means bush v clinton ye

Ellesedil

I remember hearing (in middle school mind you) that "we needed trees, not Bushes".

GodEmperorDune

20:07

@Ellesedil that was "its the economy, stupid"

Unionhawk

In which case that might still just be me

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk Jesus Christ, that's Jason Bourne

Unionhawk

Fox News is going to find Jason Bourne

Sterno

@Unionhawk No, pretty sure "Anyone But Bush" was his reelection.

fredley

> 231,556,622 eligible US voters

46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted for Clinton
25.5% voted for Trump
1.7% voted for Johnson

Unionhawk

20:08

@Sterno So 2004?

Ellesedil

@Unionhawk You don't find Jason Bourne. Jason Bourne finds you.

fredley

They are the 25.5%

GodEmperorDune

2 mins ago, by GodEmperorDune

@Sterno with john kerry?

@fredley republicans win when turnout is low

Unionhawk

You know where I was... I guess 10 so not voting but still remember this?

GodEmperorDune

i voted green that election

Unionhawk

20:09

#Nader2004

Sterno

something something swiftboats

Unionhawk

Or no

Yes

Sterno

If @GodEmperorDune was old enough to vote, he must be old

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno back when scandals mattered

arda

my brain is on fire, so good night folks

Yuuki

20:10

@GodEmperorDune Well, the question becomes why do Republicans win when turnout is low?

arda

I'll reevaluate everything tomorrow. But well, I still feel like this is all a huge dream...

Yuuki

Are Democrats just more easily turned off from voting than Republicans?

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki their base tends to be more enthusiastic and will vote anyway

@Yuuki something like that

Sterno

@Yuuki Republicans (at least in this election, and I think historically) tend to skew older, and Democrats younger. So yes.

murgatroid99

Maybe, among people who find it difficult to make time to vote, a larger percentage is Democrat

fredley

20:13

The Daily Show - Putting Donald Trump Supporters Through an Ideology Test

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Sterno

I know quite a few Democrat Facebook Warriors who will post memes all day long but can't be bothered to vote. The Republican Facebook Warriors I know all vote.

And holy shit they're both obnoxious

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno i don't get how they meme about it without voting

Sterno

Because one involves going somewhere at a certain time and standing in line, and the other involves dicking around on their phone

Ellesedil

@Sterno Solution: move to Oregon and vote by mail.

Yuuki

@fredley Not really able to watch, but if they ask about social issues, it's been definitively shown that that is not the problem.

Ellesedil

20:15

Speaking of which: csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2012/1106/…

Mad Scientist

> Among the candidates for cabinet secretaries and advisers are members of Mr. Trump’s inner circle, aides said, including Senator Jeff Sessions of Alabama, a crucial adviser on policy issues; Steven Mnuchin, a businessman who was Mr. Trump’s national finance chairman; Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former mayor of New York; Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey; and Newt Gingrich, a former speaker of the House.

I find that list quite worrying

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist yep

Sterno

@fredley "You don't even see the irony of it. I love it!"

fredley

@Sterno Amazing, and horrifying, and awful

Sterno

I'm not sure a single person I voted for won.

Gotta check those school board election results!

murgatroid99

20:19

@MadScientist Apparently, "never formally proven corrupt" is good enough for a cabinet position (re. Chris Christie)

Sterno

@fredley It's important to remember that it's super easy to do this for either side. But yikes.

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 well president-elect trump is going to take the stand on the trump u case this month

arda

ughhhhhhh

fredley

Oh man, digging through my old posts

Sep 28 at 15:23, by fredley

America to World, mid-to-late 20th Century: "Democracy or we'll invade you"
World to America, now: "..."

murgatroid99

@fredley At this point, we have a similar kind of democracy to what we imposed on others

fredley

20:22

> "The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." -- Winston Churchill

That's the quote I was looking for

Fluttershy

And so it begins. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/trump-picks-top-climate-skeptic-to-lead-epa-transition/

Tweeted by acarboni on November 9, 2016 at 8:04 PM

GodEmperorDune

@Fluttershy fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

Mad Scientist

@Fluttershy Why does he need an EPA transition team when he wants to abolish the EPA entirely?

fredley

Meanwhile, in books

murgatroid99

@Fluttershy It's too bad that only immediate concerted efforts to reverse climate change could possibly rescue us from a grim future. I was really hoping we would get to that some time soon

Mad Scientist

20:27

Congratulations, not only your own country is fucked now, but also any chance for global action on climate change, so we're all fucked (if we live long enough)

arda

I watched a 30 second portion of trump's talk. He changed a lot overnight, it seems.

fredley

reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/5c0oxu/…

@arda He had speech writers write a speech and he actually read it

Wipqozn

@Fluttershy ugh

arda

@fredley oh. Makes sense then. This doesn't really sound like something he'd say.

fredley

@arda There were points in the campaign where his team managed to get him to read the teleprompter

Wipqozn

20:29

@MadScientist yeah the world is pretty much doomed at this point

Yuuki

A bit of hyperbole but it wouldn't be unwise to start chucking more money at NASA and SpaceX right now.

Arperum

@Fluttershy RIP world.

Yuuki

Generational spaceships, go!

Warp drives, go!

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn canada will be nice and warm soon

no more snow to worry aboot

MBraedley

A Brief, Personal Letter from America

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Thanks, Tom

arda

20:31

the more I read the worse I get, so good night bridge.

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune until the ice age

Wipqozn

@GodEmperorDune But I like our snow :(

It lets us be smug about how little snow you guys get

GodEmperorDune

@Wipqozn well you should've gotten US citizenship and voted in a swing state

Yuuki

I, for one, choose to be naively optimistic. If I don't do that, my only option is to get increasingly depressed.

And I don't want to pick up a drinking problem.

GodEmperorDune

how expensive is the newly legal weed?

Yuuki

20:34

@GodEmperorDune Let the free market decide?

arda

oh man, our new german teacher is amazing

(she knew that america had a high rank on my list of countries I want to study university in, and she knew that the results of election didn't really help with that, so she digged up some english universities in germany)

Wipqozn

Remember when we made jokes about how in a few years we could be going "Remember 2016? Those were the good ol' days." That joke suddenly isn't so funny.

Fluttershy

@Yuuki It's only a problem if you admit it!

GodEmperorDune

@arda yeah stick with europe

Yuuki

@Fluttershy I don't want to have to bring so many changes of shirts!

Lazers 2.0

20:42

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Q: How can I make the hostages come with me?

In The Expendabros, you can revive and arm some hostages. They fight for you and come with you, but when the helicopter comes to pick you up, they don't jump onto the rope ladder with you. They are tallied among the dead in the level score, and they are the last of the dead, which seems to mean t...

the-expendabros

user15026

@arda oh I am so glad to hear that :)

arda

@GodEmperorDune cc @fredley

@Ash yeah, I feel much better now :)

Sterno

America today is still pretty much the same place it was last week.

Kevin van der Velden

Well yes, trump is just president elect =p

Wipqozn

Star Wars: The Force Awakens - General Hux's speech - Destruction Of Republic

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Arperum

20:55

@arda What about Ghent University in Belgium? I think they also have some english stuff, at the very least they have a student from all over the world.

Wipqozn

@Sterno We'll see how things go after he takes over.

Honestly it's the folks he appoints to these key positions that I'm really worried about

arda

@Sterno the issue is not really trump winning, but hillary losing, along with this: hillaryclinton.com/issues/college

At least that's how it affected me

Lazers 2.0

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Q: What are the requirements to unlock the Johto Starters in Pokémon XD: Gale of Darkness?

I already know that I have to win 100 battles on Mt. Battle somehow, but can I use my Pokémon team from the GameBoy Advance games? (RSE/FRLG) In Colosseum, to unlock Ho-Oh, you needed the Pokémon you used throughout the game (at least that's what it says on Bulbapedia), but what about in XD: Gal...

pokemon-xd-god

Sterno

@Wipqozn He's got the best people. Everyone says so.

Ellesedil

@Wipqozn You know... how did firing that weapon not immediately ignite the entire atmosphere of that planet and killing everyone who was watching the firing?

Sterno

20:59

@arda I didn't read the whole thing but was that going to include non-US citizens?

Wipqozn

@Ellesedil Because it's a movie

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil shakes hands aliens

Sterno

@Wipqozn Wrong. Correct answer: miticholorians

arda

@Sterno the "under $125000 -> free public colleges" thingy probably doesn't, but the "All community colleges will offer free tuition." probably does; there is no clear statement about that, from what I can see.

Sterno

@arda I would be very, very surprised. It would be a hard sell to get US citizens to put tax dollars towards non-US citizens' education

I guess it's irrelevant though.

GodEmperorDune

21:01

yep

arda

@Sterno It is now irrelevant, yes.

Wipqozn

@Sterno My bad

Ellesedil

That's kind of my consolation prize, really. My salary will continue to be high because my skills are already in demand. Now, work visas for immigrant developers will decrease and the barriers to a CS degree won't decrease (and may increase). So, I get to continue to work in a profession that will only increase in demand with no real relief in sight.

fredley

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GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil short term yes, long term salaries go down because companies are not as profitable when they can't sell their goods overseas

Wipqozn

21:06

GodEmperorDune

or when innovation dries up because we are systematically excluding the best and brightest from coming here and paying taxes here

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, that's definitely a concern. The effect on me, though, won't be direct since almost all of the companies I have worked for sell software services.

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil and they only sell software inside the US?

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune That was my main concern with killing the visa program.

Sterno

Proposed rename: @GodEmperorDoom

user15026

21:08

@arda Likely wouldn't have included foreign students - I know Canada has floated plans like this in the past and it didn't include non-Canadians

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune They don't sell software. They sell services that happen to use software. It's not clear to me how you can put a tariff on something when all you're doing is selling access to a website. But... worrying about that hasn't ever been my job.

Sterno

Honestly in a lot of ways its probably going to be irrelevant soon. You don't really need to geographically work next to other developers anymore

Ellesedil

@Sterno There's a lot of companies that need to be convinced of that still. But it is slowly changing, yes.

GodEmperorDoom

@Sterno challenge accepted

@Ellesedil trade wars don't end well

Yuuki

There's still something to be said about talking to another developer in person though.

Sterno

21:11

@GodEmperorDoom People who change their names are literally worse than people who change their avatars are literally worse than figurative Hitler

@Yuuki You can still do that. I've done that on a lot of projects.

GodEmperorDoom

@Sterno meh, still better than @Wipqozn

Wipqozn

Sterno

The biggest obstacle (for me) is accents because my hearing isn't great in the first place, and phone vs in person doesn't fix that. The next is scheduling, due to time zone differences. That's the big one

Yuuki

I've been having a not insubstantial amount of trouble teaching a friend programming over Discord and such.

Sterno

@Wipqozn IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO HARAMBE

GodEmperorDoom

21:13

@Sterno RIP harambe

Sterno

@Yuuki Do you use screen sharing apps?

Chippies

@Yuuki Discord + remote desktop / screen sharing software should be pretty good

Sterno

ScreenHero (might have a new name, I forget) is integrated with Slack now

GodEmperorDoom

@Sterno i find accents much easier to understand in person instead of over the phone. body language gives context clues

Wipqozn

The dog is @fredley

Sterno

21:14

@GodEmperorDoom I think I'm just bad enough at it that it doesn't matter.

fredley

@Wipqozn The dog is all of us

#deep

Wipqozn

@fredley :(

Sterno

I'm probably the only one who saw that movie, you young youngsters, you

SPOILER ALERT: THEY SHOOT THE DOG

Wipqozn

That's the one where they shoot the dog, right?

CALLED IT

Man when I was younger I sometimes mixed up Lassie and Old Yeller

Sterno

Like, seriously, why did my parents have me watch that?

fredley

21:16

Read this page to cheer up

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GodEmperorDoom

@Wipqozn "there's trouble down at the old well?"... BLAM

fredley

Some of those people are incredible

Wipqozn

@Sterno Maybe they were trying to prepare you for 2016

GodEmperorDoom

@fredley don't blame me i voted for kamala

> A legislator works to write and pass laws in America.

oh BBC

arda

@Ash likely, but it doesn't matter anymore. Actually I don't want to think any more today, so I'm off. Night folks.

Arperum

21:19

@fredley How does one is african-american, and asian-american at the same time? or is "african-american" at this point a synonym for "has not a milk-white skincolor"?

murgatroid99

@Arperum She can both be a descendant of an African person and a descendant of an Asian person

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDoom ... is this a Miss Marvel reference?

GodEmperorDoom

@Arperum yeah i never knew that she was part indian, i just liked the work she did as california's AG

Yuuki

Oh never mind, actually read the article.

murgatroid99

I don't actually remember if I voted for her. Everyone on my ballot except for the presidential election was a Democrat

Arperum

21:22

@murgatroid99 Ah yea, that way.

GodEmperorDoom

@murgatroid99 there were 2 democrats running for that senate seat

so it could be either

Arperum

Also: something my mom pointed out: how do you guys know so exact how many hispanics voted Democrat/Republican? Does your ballot contain your name or race or age or something?

Yuuki

@Arperum Exit polls.

And no, we don't know exactly how many Hispanics voted Democrat or Republican.

Arperum

@Yuuki So it could all be based on people lieing to whoever is taking the poll? And those polls are also just asking everyone who voted "who did you vote for? what age are you? ..."

GodEmperorDoom

@Arperum yeah the ballot is effectively a secret, but in many states you can find out if someone actually voted or not, then do a series of SQL joins to get census data, then join with exit polling data to figure it out

@Arperum they do random sampling

Arperum

21:26

@GodEmperorDoom Aha.

GodEmperorDoom

like talk to every 15th person or whatever

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDoom That's why I don't remember who I voted for

Arperum

So those numbers are also just polls.

Yuuki

It's just more expedient to say "X*% of Hispanics voted for *Y" rather than "Of the Z Hispanics that live in the US, we polled a pseudorandom sampling of W Hispanics and according to their replies, we can extrapolate that X*% of Hispanics voted for *Y with a T margin of error."

GodEmperorDoom

@Arperum yes, but unless you were extremely unlucky they should be representative

murgatroid99

21:28

@GodEmperorDoom When I said "on my ballot", I meant "people I could vote for", not "people I did vote for"

Yuuki

Hmm... Markdown works strangely around special characters.

GodEmperorDoom

plus different groups run their own exit polls: associated press, specific newspapers and media companies, the political parties themselves

@murgatroid99 sorry for misreading

Arperum

@Yuuki Yea, but those statistics sound like they are based on the actual votes, which they aren't.

GodEmperorDoom

@Arperum we have a secret ballot so unless people say who they voted for there's no real way to know

Arperum

@GodEmperorDoom Yea, that was what confused me. If a ballot is not secret, that's open for abuse.

GodEmperorDoom

21:30

i mean you could look at the results from county A, see that trump got X% and that there are Y demographics there, then compare to results and demographics from other counties

Dragonrage

there would've been just as much hate on the internet if hillary won, just from the opposite side. i think i will avoid most internet forums and stuff until people finally calm down and act like reasonable human beings.

GodEmperorDoom

but everything is going to have a margin of error

@Dragonrage yeah, we all should act like reasonable human beings

rioting for a win or loss is no bueno

Dragonrage

like seriously, the people throwing bricks through other peoples windows are not helping anything.

GodEmperorDoom

@Dragonrage yes that is criminal and those people need to be arrested

if you want to protest nonviolently outside of your nearest Trump thing, by all means go ahead. But damaging things and assaulting people is no good.

I've heard of people getting their hijabs ripped off

this is unacceptable

Yuuki

I've never understood the whole sharia law craze. How exactly were Muslims going to implement sharia law? And don't give me, "hurrdurr, they're crazy conservatives, they have no brains", I imagine at least someone had some reasoning, flawed or not.

Plus, we need to understand each other and it's a bit difficult to understand someone when you reduce them to "has no common sense".

Sterno

21:39

You mean like we do daily to Trump supporters in here?

:)

Snopes says the 11k or 15k Harambe voters claim is bullshit

GodEmperorDoom

i don't understand the trump supporter, and I hate the symbolism that Trump represents but we voted and he won

Sterno

(or, at least, absolutely no data has been provided to back it up)

GodEmperorDoom

come January 20th he will be my president

at which time i will begin to protest the things he says and does that i disagree with

Sterno

But then, Snopes is known to have an anti-gorilla bias

"We hate muslims, we hate blacks" chant is also false, according to snopes

I can keep going but the short version is stop believing all this crap you read

Unless it's Snopes. Believe Snopes

Yuuki

1 min ago, by Sterno

But then, Snopes is known to have an anti-gorilla bias

GodEmperorDoom

21:43

@Sterno i heard it last night

Yuuki

I DON'T KNOW WHO TO TRUST, @STERNO OR @STERNO?

Sterno

> Rowntree offered no evidence that any such chanting took place, and his Twitter account was the sole source for the claim. No other journalists have reported on this chant, and no first-hand accounts documenting it have materialized. The lack of corroborating evidence most likely stems from the fact that Simon Rowntree is a "fake" journalist who frequently publishes unsubstantiated and baseless stories, typically about soccer and other sports.

GodEmperorDoom

i was more concerned with safety than with taking a video

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDoom is Rowntree?

Also, I just noticed that name change.

GodEmperorDoom

@Yuuki nah this wasn't at a trump rally, this was down teh street in my neighborhood

and i suppose they could be hillary supporters

Yuuki

21:46

@GodEmperorDoom God, I hate whomever came up with "false flag".

Sterno

I wonder if they saw the tweet and went with it

Otherwise it seems like a hell of a coincidence

GodEmperorDoom

i'm searching for the police report now, they got arrested

Sterno

The picture linked in here earlier of the Klan on a bridge was not from today, and was not the KKK

cc @fredley

snopes.com/klan-marches-celebrate-trump-victory

Yuuki

Man, Snopes is having a field day today.

Sterno

> They have no affiliation with the KKK or anything else. They were just Donald Trump supporters. They are not a radical group or anything of that nature. There are no sheets, no hoods, no crosses, they didn't have Confederate flags.

THey really are

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