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5:03 PM
So. After 1 month in my very first guild in anything ever, the Guild Master tells me he's going away and leaving me in charge...
 
@John Uh, in what game?
 
@Fallen Spiral Knights.
 
Being a guild leader's a pretty big responsibility
 
Yeah...
I'm totally stressing out about it. :P
 
You have to make the rules, enforce them, take care of the website/mumble/vent/whatever, manage membership, manage officers, deal with drama, etc.
 
5:05 PM
I was once a Gunbound guild leader.
For the very same reason - shortly after joining, the head guy up and left.
 
Even for a small casual friends guild, it can be a lot of work. I've been a guild leader for like 6 odd years now because our original one left.
She got addicted to WoW, and thusly stopped paying for the website/forums/vent, never contacted us, we never heard from her.
 
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Q: Is There Another Way To Get The Oghma Infignium Other Than Septimus?

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@Fallen Well I'm kinda already helping with all that and I have 2 to help me, so that doesn't sound so bad.
@Fallen wow...
 
@John Are you online right now?
 
@Grace Gunbound?
 
5:07 PM
I only heard from a friend of mine a few months after she left us that she was in WoW and then the bunch of us were like "...*that's* where she is?!?"
 
@Tristan No. I plan on getting on in an hour or 2.
 
@John Artillery-style online game from years ago. Probably is still around.
 
It was a pretty awful experience
 
@John Oh. Okay.
 
@FallenAngelEyes what game do you play that the GM left for WoW?
 
5:08 PM
Now, in Gunbound, a guild leader has far less responsibility than that of an MMORPG.
 
Well, he said he's moving to a place with little internet, but he'll check back through FB, Steam, and Skype.
 
@Pyrodante was a long time ago, we were mostly Guild Wars back then, but a bunch of other games as well, did events together and such
Managing a multi-game guild can be a bit tricky
 
Well I just got promoted to Director in EvE but I have been running guilds since UO
 
I help with my current one with 2 other people after ours merged with theirs about 2 years ago
 
Oh, hey @Pyrodante
 
5:11 PM
@OrigamiRobot I though you'd like that.
 
I tried EVE once... I couldn't find the fun. o.o
 
@Tristan It's best if you have a group of people to play with
IMO, at least
 
@FallenAngelEyes Most games seem that way.
 
It's a sandbox MMO, so you kind of have to find your own fun, as opposed to themepark MMO's like WoW or SWTOR
@Pyrodante How'd your guild handle Monoclegate :P
 
Does anyone know if we have a G+ page?
 
5:13 PM
Well our corp leader build Aura for Android... we are very organized so, pretty well I suppose.
 
@Ronan I don't think we do.
 
Should we make one?
 
I mean it wasn't that big of a deal no one forced you to buy a monocle, we just had a really crappy expansion followed by the best in memory
 
@Ronan Sure. The more the merrier, right?
 
Make sure you make it clear that you're not an "official" Stack Exchange Google+ page.
That's all I have to say on the matter - I might as well warn you before someone else on the Team discovers this down the road and comes at your father with a hatchet.
 
5:16 PM
@GraceNote Is that likely?
 
@IanPugsley That was if I was planning on going to both
 
Could we ask someone on the team to make an official one then?
Come to think about it, I'm not sure if our FB page says it's unofficial.
 
@RonanForman If you don't make it clear, then, yes, it is actually likely. Though we may employ badgers instead of hatchets - I've been seeing far more badgers in our internal pipelines than I ever expected.
@RonanForman You should amend this, probably. I think a community-run FB/G+ page will suit better than one run by us.
 
Gotcha'
 
Note that a SE G+ page does exist, just not GSE.
 
5:19 PM
There's a difference between "This is run by the awesome gamers of Gaming Stack Exchange!" and "This is run by Stack Exchange Inc., the people behind Gaming Stack Exchange", and the authority behind those is important to note.
Your purposes will value the former, so you just want to make sure no one falls under the assumption that it is actually the latter. Makes it better for everyone involved. ♪
 
The about section now reads:
> This is the unofficial page about a free, community driven Q&A for passionate videogamers on all platforms. It is a part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A websites, created through the open democratic process defined at Stack Exchange Area 51.
 
Lovely ♪
You're the best, @Ronan
 
@GraceNote Dawwww... Thanks.
checks the youtube page.
 
people here are way cooler then some other SE chat I have been too :P
 
I'm going to go back to hating water and remembering why my hate for it is so vast that I have completely avoided its existence as an element in this game.
 
5:21 PM
@Pyrodante Well duh, we are the coolest.
2
 
woo! I can has basic path finding!
 
^^this
 
For the G+ page, product & brand or company & institution?
 
Not that.
I'm blaming @badp for that.
 
@RonanForman Uh... does the page offer any guidance as to the difference?
 
5:23 PM
@RonanForman I concur.
@John that's rude.
 
 
I may just buy it again, if only for the soundtrack
 
Obviously, what I really have is path finding made of fail.
 
@FallenAngelEyes You're not GnomeSlice. What are you doing? O.o
 
5:24 PM
Actually, that was really impressive @badp. Just noticed that was the first thing you said in awhile.
 
I can't use our gmail account for the page can I?
 
@Ronan Why couldn't you?
 
@Wipqozn It's okay, because rather than getting stuff done I've spent time noticing the major flaw above and then did it anyway
 
what makes me so grumpy is my GF can ask one question about Skyrim and get a gold badge and a boat ton of rep :(
 
"Our" gmail account?
 
5:25 PM
@John I don't think StackExchange is a real surname.
 
And now I stare at the red dot going in circles around a corner
 
@GraceNote Not yours, ours. As in the unofficial one, run by the community, we're community.
 
@Pyrodante I know that feeling... It seems that no one is asking questions I can answer anymore. lol
 
@GraceNote we made a gaming stack exchange one for our youtube account
 
@Tristan I love the Pixeljunk games
 
5:25 PM
I guess I'll just have to blacklist corners or something.
 
@RonanForman I know you didn't mean SE, I meant, does Gaming have its own communal GMail account
 
I almost want a Playstation Move for Pixeljunk 4am :(
Just like I almost bought a Kinect for Child of Eden
 
@GraceNote Given that we do have a Youtube account... isn't it pretty much a requisite?
 
@GraceNote Yeah, how else do we have a youtube account?
 
Oh snap, the snark has been snarked.
 
5:26 PM
hm. No it really ins't.
 
I wonder what she'll counter with.
 
I don't have a youTube account so I don't know what goes into owning one (nevermind that I was under the impression they were separate services)
 
A basic google account could suffice for youtube.
 
@badp what is wrong with the first example?
 
@GraceNote No snark intended
 
5:27 PM
@badp Nevermind.
 
@GraceNote youtube was nommed by google a couple years ago
 
@OrigamiRobot First example shows it at work
 
@badp None taken. I'm the one who failed to clarify what my actual stress was on when I asked about "our" account.
 
@badp and the 2nd?
 
I don't see the harm in setting up the G+ page through the same account you use for the youTube stuff, then.
 
5:28 PM
@OrigamiRobot 2nd shows it at work, then advancing to the 3rd scenario, where it stalls.
 
I don't want to risk it, as if it takes down this, all our videos go, I don't have any backups for most of it.
 
What I must do is make it so that once you've reached a waypoint, its corner is "ignored" for long enough
 
@RonanForman I had to delete my D3 raws for space :/
 
The only thing I have is hthe dreadskull ones, and that's because they're not up.
 
@badp is it just not detecting the 2nd point of intersection with the obstacle?
 
5:29 PM
or I could make it find both waypoints at once
 
So... product or organisation?
 
@RonanForman Oooh, point made
I don't think there would be an issue but I can see you taking precautions being wiser anyway.
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, the intersection points are simply very close to that corner, so the algorithm picks that one up
My corner picking logic is "find the corner that is closest to the two intersections"
 
@GraceNote The thing is G+ wants to be an "identity service" and we can't guarantee that they won't flag the account for takedown if we don't have an actual person's name on it.
 
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5:31 PM
I think organisation, seeing as cars and electronics are in the other one.
 
@FallenAngelEyes ...ui
 
@GraceNote Yeah, it's pretty sucky.
 
I thought they were expanding their policy to allow for that now
 
@FallenAngelEyes But there are G+ pages for other groups. SE even has its own G+ page.
 
@badp so image three technically has two point that are both im practically the same spot?
 
5:31 PM
(also I initially parsed that as "onion")
 
@Fallen But....G+ has pages now.
 
@OrigamiRobot yes
wait
 
@John I dunno, I'm going off what @Ronan just said.
 
hm
that doesn't make sense.
 
@badp i dont see how...it should have the 2nd PoI on the other side
 
5:32 PM
Okay, 'internet and software'?
 
let me review the situation, although observed behaviour IS what I've predicted (perhaps wrongly)
 
@Ronan IMHO yes.
 
The other ones it could be are 'computers and hardware', 'media and publishing' or 'retail and consumer merchandise'
Also this:
Authority and Access
> Subject to the Google+ Pages Terms, any Google+ user may create a Google+ Page, but only users with authority over the subject matter may administer the Google+ Page. If you authorise someone else to administer your Google+ Page, you are responsible for their actions. Actions you are able to take as a Google+ Page may be limited in certain ways and you may not circumvent any such limitations.
> You may not sell or lease Google+ Pages without prior authorisation from Google. Deletion of your Google+ profile or closure of your Google+ account will make your Google+ Page no longer accessible.
 
@RonanForman ...authority over the page or over what the page represents?
 
@badp Exactly.
 
5:37 PM
if necessary @juanmanuel is on G+
dunno about @raven.
 
He is.
So is Mana.
 
That might be a better idea, although you could give me authority to make this couldn't you @badp?
 
@badp I have zero experience with pathfinding algorithms, but it makes sense what you are doing (from the first example)
 
I'm not really sure.
 
@OrigamiRobot The problem is the corner picking algorithm, blacklisting may not be required
 
5:39 PM
I'm going to leave it for now.
 
the thing is that it does a sum of euclidean distances to both intersections from both corners and sees which corner has the lower distance
 
I'm inclined to say that technically SE's licensing gives us the authority to spread around any of the content we would be posting.
 
@badp does the problem com when the PoI is exactly on a corner?
 
in picture 3, the up-right corner has basically 0 for the closer intersection and a straight line to the other intersection, so you can't get any better than this.
I need to find a better corner scoring system, or just penalize corners that are really close by.
Let's try the penalty first.
heh, obviously. If I penalize the corner what happens is that the next best corner will be the one closest to the farther intersection
and basically you zip through it.
I might need to work with headings. Again...
 
5:56 PM
Hmm, suggestions on how to continue a discussion with ZDF without completely alienating a new user? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/35077/…
 
I want to talk to an employee about this, google do have a reputation for enforcing these things.
 
@RonanForman points to @Grace?
 
@FallenAngelEyes Anna counts now too.
 
@bwarner Aye but she hasn't been about today as much as Grace has
 
@badp what if you do average distance instead of the sum?
 
5:59 PM
Looks like this weekend I'll be implementing A*!
 
I really feel like I'm at a disadvantage in TF2, having found very few items. =(
 
OH! as a BTW if anyone IS interested in EvE I have a pretty good recruitment deal :D
 
@FallenAngelEyes Give me half an hour
 
@OrigamiRobot no gold either :/
@Tristan how many hours did you play for the first three weeks?
 
Anyways, recording time, byes!
 
6:03 PM
you get 22 hours of drops for your very first week and 22 hours of drops for your very second week, IIRC
 
@badp Define "the first three weeks." The first 3 weeks I owned it? Or the first 3 weeks after they released the items stuff?
 
and 11 hours for every week afterwarsd
 
@badp ...yea that would just divide what youre doing by two and youd get the same result....
 
@Tristan oh... okay. I thought you were one of those who jumped on the bandwagon after TF2 going F2P
so, uh, just play the damn game :P
 
@badp Well... As far as the PC version goes, I kinda did. I used to play on the 360, but I'm new to the PC gaming realm.
 
6:04 PM
if you want you can trade your vintages (if you have any) for regular items and buy stuff with the difference plus whatever metal you might have
@Tristan Oh. Well, then, the very first three weeks starting from your first game I'd say then
 
In that case, 3 hours. >.>
 
Oh well <_<
 
^.^
 
11 hours is, after all, an average of the amount of time put in by every player weekly
for everybody putting in more than 11 hours there must be many more putting in less
well that means you'll find new stuff constantly!
just play more.
 
k
 
6:07 PM
If you want to know what items your teammates have, put them under your crosshair and press F
 
@Pyrodante That's mainly just for really famous people, and you have to verify your real identity with them. G.SE is an organization, and doesn't have a real identity.
 
As for the items you find, it's completely random, right? Playing a Soldier won't give soldier specific items?
 
The item you got killed with should be shown in your killcam instead.
@Tristan Exactly - completely random.
 
@Tristan Definitely
 
If there's something you want in specific you're better off trading.
(Is there something you want in specific?)
 
6:09 PM
@badp I don't even know what items would be good for me. =\
 
@Tristan Also, some classes aren't affected negatively by their default items as much.
 
If you're looking for items @Tristan, give this page a look
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@Tristan Those that kill you most often!
I have written a blog post about this but new items have been released since then
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@Wipqozn @badp thanks.
 
@Tristan Black Box FTW!
 
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@badp - why dont you just make the previously chosen corner illegal
 
35 mins ago, by badp
heh, obviously. If I penalize the corner what happens is that the next best corner will be the one closest to the farther intersection
 
@bwarner I posted a new answer to that question about finishing moves...
 
It was probably fun trying my hand at the problem, but if there's an industry standard solution that I can adopt without making everything I've written to support my own solution irrelevant... I might as well just turn my brain off.
Pathfinding is not the point of what I'm doing anyway
 
6:25 PM
@badp I didnt know that's what you meant by penalize
 
	private Vec2 getClosestPointTo(final Vec2[] intersections, final float radius) {
		Vec2 dodgeThisPoint = Collections.min(Arrays.asList(getPoints()), new Comparator<Vec2>() {

			@Override
			public int compare(Vec2 x, Vec2 y) {
				float distX1 = x.sub(intersections[0]).length();
				float distX2 = x.sub(intersections[1]).length();
				float distY1 = y.sub(intersections[0]).length();
				float distY2 = y.sub(intersections[1]).length();

/*				float penalty_radius = radius * 2;
				if(distX1 < penalty_radius || distX2 < penalty_radius){
(current state of code after your latest suggestion)
 
damn it I come here to escape from code >.<
 
@Pyrodante but this is kind of recreational!
 
@badp so when they say "tool assisted speed run" they mean they're cheating?
 
@Tristan no.
They are playing at very slow speeds and/or replaying certain segments until they're perfect - no cheats involved.
 
6:28 PM
@badp is it working (or working better)?
 
Maybe I need to play Super Metroid again... Cuz I don't remember being able to instantly fill my health.
 
@OrigamiRobot not visibly different
I didn't make the run or analyzed it very closely (I'm still watching) but it might be the health pickup is picked up the frame it is generated, and thus effectively invisible
 
@badp It's at 24:45 ish.
 
I'm still at the very close call at 18:22
the one where Samus would be two energy points short for his escape except for the last second energy pickup
 
Deus ex machinaaaaa
 
6:35 PM
LOL. Defeated the first boss with 1 energy precisely.
This is awesome.
Then energy tank and poof! up to 599 we go.
 
Odd, recording station 37 seems to make it run at half speed.
 
@badp Which Metroid Game?
 
@Wipqozn The first I think
for the SNES anyway
 
Super
 
touch`e
stupid US keyboard layout
 
6:40 PM
I am back. Am I still needed?
 
@GraceNote Are you ever not needed?
Indeed we should aim for a more distributed Grace Note experience. Our current Grace Note is very awesome, but also very localized.
Some replication might be in order.
 
Is this Super Metroid video better or worse (to the game) than that Rockman & Forte video you showed us the other day?
 
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@GraceNote The game doesn't get glitched.
 
Mmkay
 
6:45 PM
It still plays through areas in the entirely wrong order, and most of the time you can see his health evaporating.
I guess it's a different kind of show-off
More about luck manipulation, planning and precision than about just glitching the shit out of everything (still very entertaining)
 
Point is that I don't have to feel bad for the game
I showed the MM&B one to my brother a couple weeks ago. He loved it.
 
so since I haven't passed the mushroom test I can't tell you if it's better or not
MM&B? Mario... Mario and Brothers?
 
@badp Mega Man and Bass
 
Yes, I switched localizations
 
She's a tricky one that Grace Note.
 
6:50 PM
...huh. Didn't quite expect that.
 
Oh yeah, @GraceNote there's a paragraph on the page creation screen which I'm worried about.
 
What part are you concerned about?
 
Authority and Access.
 
I wish .gif gravatars showed their animation.
 
@RonanForman I meant, which part of that paragraph
 
6:58 PM
I wish my gravatar worked...
 
> only users with authority over the subject matter may administer the Google+ Page.
 
@Pyrodante is your profile e-mail set to the same e-mail as your gravatar?
 
@RonanForman The subject matter in this case would be the Gaming Stack Exchange community.
 
my profile got all messed up, they fixed most of it but the gravatar is still messed up
 
@GraceNote OKay, cool.
 
@Pyrodante Did you change the email or did you change the image on gravatar itself?
 
neither, my chat account got totally disassociated with the rest of my accounts...
 
Have you tried changing the association, then changing it back to Stack Overflow?
Oh, that's why
Your chat.stackoverflow account is pointing to a non-existence Stack Overflow account
Your account here is pointing at stackoverflow.com/users/706836/pyrodante
 
I know, something happend to destroy my old chat account... its weird
 
I got my keyboard fixed! \o/
 
7:08 PM
Weeeew!
 
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A: Why did my keyboard stop working?

JohnSomehow, I had managed to turn on SlowKeys (Login Screen -> Universal Access Preferences). The result was that I had to hold keys for very long periods of time for them to work. Turning it off fixed it.

 
@Pyrodante Have you considered just changing the avatar on the actual Stack Overflow account, then?
 
The first 2 words should instead read: "My little sister"
 
Also, I was surprised he fought Crocomire. I expected he'd save the minibosses as well.
 
@Tristan Ready to play?
 
7:10 PM
@John Sure!
 
@Tristan Weeeeeeeew!
 
@John lol
 
@IanPugsley Yeah....
 
@John how'd you find it?
 
@John It's saying it can't authenticate my Steam account to log in.
 
7:13 PM
@IanPugsley I was clicking around on the login screen and noticed that was the only "Universal Access Preference" that was selected.
@Tristan Same here...
 
So when I click "change avatar" it brings me to the gravatar site, where my proper image is already set...
 
@RonanForman Yay!
@Tristan Any luck?
 
@John Any... <.< No.
 
@Tristan :(
Me neither.
 
7:17 PM
@John Any ideas?
 
This doesn't look good.
This has happened before.
And our accounts are somehow marked now.
Because this doesn't happen for everyone.
Looks like the only thing we can do is wait. :/
 
Hm... Alright. Well, that kinda sucks. lol
 
@Tristan Srsly.
 
"Unable to connect to Steam. Please make sure you have a valid internet connection" >.<
 
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7:36 PM
*crashing through the fact I dont have to work this afternoon!
 
@Fredy31 Crash through our new G+ page! But don't break it!
 
crashes gently through the new G+ Page
 
What's the Gaming Stack Exchange youTube account?
 
So, a friend of mine just watched Firefly/Serenity for the first time... She managed to be completely spoiler free when she started. Now she's screaming at me. <.<
 
7:46 PM
@Tristan why?
 
@Ullallulloo Have you seen the show/movie?
 
Did you spoil it? :P
@Tristan Nope
 
@Ullallulloo I didn't spoil it. She's just upset at something that happened during the course of the storyline.
 
@Tristan Ah, okay.
 
Also, you should watch it. there are only ~13 episodes and the movie.
 
7:49 PM
@Tristan yeah, I've heard good things about it.
 
@Tristan I don't even like scifi, and I hate whoever canceled that show with a burning passion.
 
@Ullallulloo I make a habit of watching the complete series in one sitting every 6 months.
@StrixVaria I love sci-fi, and I enjoy westerns, so I think that's why I loved the show so much.
 
gah, most episodes require hulu+
 
@Tristan I like the show because of River (the character; being played by Summer Glau is irrelevant)
 
Also, Alan Tudyk and Nathan Fillion are two of my favorite actors.
 
7:51 PM
Alan Tudyk was pretty amazing in that show too.
I don't think I've ever seen him in anything else...
 
@Tristan I just rewatched Serenity for the first time since I've seen Firefly (I originally saw Serenity without having seen Firefly first)
 
@FallenAngelEyes Was the movie better since you watched the show? =P
 
@Tristan hmm...maybe I'll ask for it for my birthday...
 
I just bought Serenity on Bluray
 
7:53 PM
Also, no spoilers!
 
@Tristan Yeah because I cared about the characters more then
 
@StrixVaria A Knight's Tale, Dodgeball, Tucker & Dale vs Evil, V
 
I would strongly recommend watching Serenity last
 
I saw Serenity in theatres back when it came out but I didn't see Firefly til last year
 
@Ullallulloo If you do, might as well ask for Serenity, too. Complete the series! =P
 
7:54 PM
dont forget DHSAB
 
@OrigamiRobot How could I forget Steve the Pirate?
 
(I was dragged to Serenity by my b/f)
 
@Tristan I don't know anyone who has watched it fresh and has actually been spoiled. People tend to be pretty good about this one.
 
@StrixVaria I highly recommend Tucker and Dale vs Evil.
 
@Tristan @IanPugsley, @spugsley, and I just watched it on Wednesday
 
7:55 PM
Alan Tudyk is also really good in 3:10 to Yuma.
@OrigamiRobot Wasn't it amazing!? It took everything you'd expect from an 80s slasher flick and threw it out the window. lol
 
2 of my b/f's are big Browncoats
 
@Tristan It was everything I hoped and dreamed of
 
2 of your b/fs?
you have a collection?
 
@Pyrodante dont ask its complicated
 
@Pyrodante I do! :D
 
7:57 PM
I dont really know, I'm just being dramatic
 
I am all about collections :D
 
3 technically. I'm polyamorous, so I have more than one significant other.
 
@OrigamiRobot I think my favorite part was when the girl started freaking out, "What is that!?" and Dale just said, "Aaahh! Issum pancakes! You don't like pancakes? I-I-I'll make you something else..."
 
thats cool, several of my friends are that way.
 
awesome :)
 
7:59 PM
@Pyrodante Do they ever get you in a mass of trouble? Or is Breaking Benjamin just being accusatory?
 
@FallenAngelEyes with your love of MtG and the fact that you've read Principia Discordia, I'm not surprised
 
@OrigamiRobot lol why?
 

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