The Bridge

two bugs

21:00

Gokunaruto, the level 100 female dwarf retribution paladin, has begun her journey

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs you'd think she'd be over 9000 with a name like that

or is naruto holding her back?

badp

Sale of the Century

►

Capitalism, ho!

OKAY, PANIC.

Outage Postmortem - July 20, 2016 http://stackstatus.net/post/147710624694/outage-postmortem-july-20-2016

Tweeted by StackStatus on July 20, 2016 at 8:26 PM

GodEmperorDune

@OKAY,PANIC. VTC dupe

badp

@OKAY,PANIC. ouch

play happy sound indeed

Ellesedil

21:16

I guess the update means the servers are down? Can't log in at all.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How do Iceblight and Waterblight affect Prowlers?

Both blights normally affect hunters in some way related to their stamina, but since Prowlers have no stamina, how are they affected?

monster-hunter-gen

-1

Q: Terraria: Mothron's issue Solar Eclipse

I have a question, how do I beat this monster? I have no problem surviving a solar eclipse, but when this monster appears, he kills me almost immediately, do you know how can I beat this monster? Which gear or item should I use? Which trick should I do to kill it with more ease if there's any? ...

terraria

William

Pokemon go question

Is there something pokevision.com for seeing gyms?

Ellesedil

@William I don't know of one, but I'll happy if someone has one handy.

William

@Ellesedil is that a valid question?

Ellesedil

Oh, to ask on the site? Hmm.

William

21:28

also I noticed pokevision isn't posted anywhere on the site

Ellesedil

I don't know if questions about external game resources is on topic or not.

William

Like your avatar pic. I'm going to see the next solar eclipse in 2017 already on my calendar

Ellesedil

@William Thanks!

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil they are not

William

@Ellesedil have you seen any solar eclipses

Lazers 2.0

21:29

0

Q: No lore in minecraft clans when there should be

I'm playing the clans game on the mineplex server, I look at the items at the shop, there should be lore text to see how much they cost, there is not any. this has never happend before. I'm the only person with this problem, PLZ HELP!

minecraft hosting

Ellesedil

@William I've seen some from a distance, but I haven't traveled for any. I just really, really like images of eclipses that show the corona.

William

@GodEmperorDune can I post it as a comment on this gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/272681/…

well i just did

GodEmperorDune

do you have any affliation with the pokevision.com site?

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune It'd be nice if we could catalog some useful external tools, especially considering the nature of Pokemon Go. Would doing this via a meta question be the best way?

William

@GodEmperorDune no

GodEmperorDune

21:32

@Ellesedil some resources are in the tag wiki

William

just foind it today

GodEmperorDune

but given the popularity of pogo we don't want to have every single pokemon go related website thrown in there

Ellesedil

Agreed. That's why I was thinking of a question somewhere.

William

^

Ellesedil

The RPG site handled off-site forum questions via a meta question, since it's off-topic on the main site.

That way, people just add additional resources they discover.

William

21:33

then I get no rep!! That is as bad as a communit wiki question

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil the challenge is not in providing resources, the challenge is maintaining those resources over time

Dragonrage

@William there are more things in life than SE rep

KutuluMike

name 1.

Ellesedil

@William Well, there's also the issue that questions like that can turn into list questions, which are problematic.

So, it'd have to be either on meta, or a community wiki.

William

@Dragonrage my sole purpose in life is to collect SE rep and get comments stared in chat

GodEmperorDune

21:35

you'll notice we don't have a question with every minecraft resource

Dragonrage

@KutuluMike food

KutuluMike

which nets you rep on cooking.se

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune So, what you're saying is that if people have questions about how to find specific pokemon or specific gyms, we can't help them? That's... kinda lame.

Dragonrage

@KutuluMike no, I don't think eating food will get you rep on cooking.se

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil if someone asks a question and your answer is "go look at this external DB of where all the pokemon are", that's not a good answer for this site

at the same time, we don't want to encourage countless permutations of "how can i find pokemon X in city Y"

Ellesedil

21:38

@GodEmperorDune So, then it sounds like those questions should be off-topic... which sounds ridiculous to me.

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune how can I find pokemon y in city x?

Frank

@Ellesedil If you're asking for something not in-game, chances are really good it doesn't belong here.

Our job isn't to redirect you to other resources. If you can ask a question about a problem in-game, answers can point you at third party resources, but still have to solve the problem.

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil if there was something in the game to help with it, sure

KutuluMike

for x in pokedex:
    for y in world_atlas:
        print "How can I find $x in $y?"

Frank

If you remove a link from a answer, and it doesn't answer the question anymore, it's a link-only answer.

Dragonrage

21:41

@KutuluMike isn't that supposed to be foreach?

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage python bruh

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune wut am i supposed to do with a snake?

KutuluMike

python: the language specifically designed to look like pseudocode.

Ellesedil

@Dragonrage Nothing apparently. We can't tell you where to catch it in the first place.

Dragonrage

@Ellesedil oh, i can find them aplenty

arda

21:43

@KutuluMike * Seasonal advice™

GodEmperorDune

now if it turns out that someone figures out the algorithm for how pokemon are spawned, so the answer is "pokemon X spawns in parks between 10km and 11km from the nearest water" then that's something we can do

murgatroid99

@KutuluMike Technically, $varname interpolation doesn't work in Python

Dragonrage

well, provided the servers are up

KutuluMike

@murgatroid99 I know. mine was pseudocode :)

that should be a new game: python, perl or pseudo.

throw random snippets of fake-looking code at you and you decide which it is

GodEmperorDune

@KutuluMike i$#^%($#&%()#@$#

Dragonrage

21:45

@GodEmperorDune malbolge?

KutuluMike

@GodEmperorDune gesundheit

Ellesedil

@GodEmperorDune That's not even that good of an answer because it fails to tell most players anything they can use. We should be able to find a way where we can provide players useful information, even if that information exists outside of arqade.

GodEmperorDune

hehehe

Frank

@Ellesedil We can. Questions just can't ask for off-site resources.

arda

foreach (Pokemon x in pokedex) { foreach (Vector3 y in worldAtlas) {StackApi.SendQuestion(SEs.Arqade, $"How can I find {x} in {y}");}}

Note: c# 6 needed

KutuluMike

21:46

var bruh.

murgatroid99

@Ellesedil That looks like perfectly useful information to me

Ellesedil

@Frank Right. RPG handles that the same way. That's why they've build meta questions to contain much of that information. Why can't we use something at our disposal to do something similar?

Frank

@Ellesedil We don't need a meta or canoncial.

Ellesedil

@murgatroid99 It's perfectly useful if you expect your players to pull out a map and ruler. 95% of your players won't even think about that, let alone bother to.

arda

@KutuluMike var works in foreach? Til

KutuluMike

21:47

var works in any local variable and is recommended.

Dragonrage

there are a bunch of resources in the tag wiki

Frank

We work differently than RPG does. If people ask it, and it's on-topic, we can answer it, no problem.

murgatroid99

@Ellesedil That's not our problem. If that's the information that we have, then that's the answer

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil they asked how to find pokemon, we told them how to find the pokemon, if they don't want to apply the algorithm to their area, that is on them.

KutuluMike

for example, had you used var you wouldn't have gotten Vector3 wrong :)

murgatroid99

21:48

It's not like we can have a list of "For each pokemon, here are all of the areas in the world where that pokemon can appear". It's vastly impractical

arda

If my phones dictionary wasn't shit I'd get it right

Ellesedil

@murgatroid99 That's not what I'm asking for. There are sites that do that for you.

The problem is linking to those sites in some useful way.

GodEmperorDune

am i correct in reading this as offtopic because it's something they need to take up with their op or admin?

-2

Q: No lore in minecraft clans when there should be

I'm playing the clans game on the mineplex server, I look at the items at the shop, there should be lore text to see how much they cost, there is not any. this has never happened before. I'm the only person with this problem.

minecraft

i dunno what the mineplex thing is

Unionhawk

I assume a large mini game server

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil the point of SE is to answer questions that fit the SE format, not to give out useful links

@Unionhawk so VTC this question?

murgatroid99

21:53

What if someone gave an answer with both the tool and its underlying functionality? Then it's not really a link-only answer, because a reader could, in principle, implement it themselves

Frank

@murgatroid99 That would be a great answer.

If a tool answers the question, it's perfectly fine to go, "Hey, Tool X does that. Here's how you use it to solve the problem."

What I generally hate is when someone goes, "Tool X can do that", and leaves it at that.

Ellesedil

@Frank Isn't that still a link-only answer?

You'd have to explain how the tool does the thing it does.

Frank

That's not an answer. That's link-only to the tee.

Ellesedil

I'm replying to your middle comment.

Frank

@Ellesedil No, you don't. You just explain how to use the tool to do what the question wants.

We don't care how it works. We just care that it does.

Ellesedil

21:57

Ok, I'm confused. I'm pretty sure you guys have been arguing against answers like that.

If the tool goes away, the answer is junk. That defines a link-only answer, no?

Frank

@Ellesedil No, we're arguing against questions that ask for tools.

user15026

I am starting to remember why I don't back things on Kickstarter.....

murgatroid99

I don't know what I'm arguing, so I'm going to stop

Ellesedil

At this point, I don't know either.

GodEmperorDune

@Ash what happened?

Ellesedil

21:58

But I thought your suggestion was great.

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Delays! Delays forever!

user15026

I backed this cat litter box that's supposed to be really awesome

Frank

@Ash Welcome to me and Star Command.

user4704

I backed two things on Kickstarter, both ended up being disappointments, so I don't even go there any more.

GodEmperorDune

i backed the hardcore henry thing a while ago. the movie is out now but i never received any of my backer stuff

Frank

21:59

Four years late, and still can't get it done.

user15026

But they're taking FOREVER and keep delaying it for this thing or the other thing or this little detail or that little detail

Ellesedil

Wait, a cat litter box? You can back things on Kickstarter that aren't video games or indie films?

user15026

It was supposed to be shipping in May, then June, then start of July, then middle, now August....

GodEmperorDune

yooka laylee seems to be going well

user15026

@Ellesedil I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not

user4704

22:00

@Ash "We know it's disappointing, but we want to make sure get the BEST DAMN LITTER BOX you can get!"

GodEmperorDune

and reading rainbow kickstarter was excellent

user4704

"We are committed to quality and awesome!"

murgatroid99

I do think I agree with what I now understand Frank to be saying: an answer that says to use a tool is OK, as long is it also includes an explanation of how to use the tool to do what was asked and/or how the tool works.

user15026

@JoshPetrie Yeah that is actually pretty much the last email I got today

user4704

:D

Ellesedil

22:01

@murgatroid99 I can get on board with that. My only concern is if there are many tools that do that, it can turn the question into an accidental list question.

Frank

@Ellesedil As long as the question itself is not asking for tools, that's fine.

Ellesedil

Cool, I can dig that.

Frank

If each tool solves the problem, they make perfectly good answers.

murgatroid99

Right. There's nothing inherently wrong with a question having a large number of answers, as long as each answer is a valid and complete solution

Frank

Of course, if the question is generic enough that multiple tools can each solve the problem, perhaps some additional focusing needs to be done to get to the root of the problem.

murgatroid99

22:03

@Frank Or it could just mean that multiple people implemented the same thing

Frank

@murgatroid99 It could, indeed.

Ellesedil

@murgatroid99 That's what I expect, especially for PoGo.

pokevision.com clearly explains how they're using Niantic's API to do their thing, which is probably the only real way to be able to answer "how can I find X in city Y?"

Frank

@Ellesedil A generic answer of where that Pokemon usually spawns is a great answer.

Pokevision would also be fine, as long as you include a bit of info on how to use it.

murgatroid99

@Frank if we ever actually figure that out

Frank

@murgatroid99 Very true.

Ellesedil

22:06

Supposedly, I can find a bunch of Charmanders in my area at a man-made pond.

So yeah, I have little hope we'll know the answer to where Pokemon usually spawn.

arda

Probably some algorithm to determine the type of Pokemon that can spawn there and spawn one around randomly in a random time

Frank

I mean, I caught a Horsea yesterday on a sidewalk to someone's back yard.

That doesn't sound right, but whatever that algorithm is, it's currently pretty strange.

arda

Testing the spawn range and time range is possible, with loads of people using those pokemon telemetry vpns

Ellesedil

Is there a creek nearby? There's one by my house (probably ~80 meters away) and I occasionally catch goldeen from my couch.

fredley

Fluttershy

22:09

Ellesedil

Holy crap, I'm in game.

Sorta.

murgatroid99

I got in about 20 minutes ago, but I couldn't actually do anything

Dragonrage

@murgatroid99 i caught an eevee, now i can evolve another one

Ellesedil

There's a wild Wigglytuff only 3 footsteps away from me.

@Dragonrage How are you going to try to evolve it?

Dragonrage

debating on whether to evolve another vaporeon so i have two strong ones, or to evolve it to jolteon for pokedex

Ellesedil

22:11

Have you used the Rainer nickname yet? I'm really curious what the result is if you have.

Dragonrage

i have. i used it for my last eevee

arda

\o/

D3 s7 DH reward is UE!

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: Can't play Pokémon Go

Every time I login using Google, the screen shows a grey screen with a circling poké ball. Then loads to a screen with a bunch of Pokémon on it with a message saying thank you for your response we will fix the problem shortly come back later. What did I respond to? And how come my wife can access...

pokemon-go

0

Q: How to make a Jukebox not drop its disc?

I'm trying to make a jukebox not drop its disc but instead make the disc disappear so that I am unable to pick it up. Are there such possible methods of doing so? I have tried adding a command block that placed lava on the same block as the Jukebox and a command block that replaced the Jukebox so...

minecraft minecraft-commands minecraft-redstone minecraft-server

0

Q: Can I still get Black Spindle?

So, I've found conflicting reports, and I'm honestly not sure which one is accurate. According to the Destiny wikia, the Black Spindle can only be obtained when "Lost to Light" is the Daily Heroic. However, I found another source saying it can be acquired at any time, simply by putting the missio...

destiny

Ellesedil

Well, definitely share what you do and what it evolves into. If you go Vaporeon, let us know if you have any other pokemon named Rainer before you evolve.

arda

(uncrypted: diablo 3 season 7 set reward for demon hunter is Unhallowed Essence (my favorite set))

GodEmperorDune

22:13

@arda i'm surprised they didn't ban d3 in your country yet

arda

They'd ban minecraft first

(they attempted to do it last year)

GodEmperorDune

@arda did they give a reason?

arda

Yes, it makes kids be alone, makes them introvert, makes them cantrememberword (more brutal? For killing mobs and animals)

Dragonrage

@Ellesedil server went down again

Ellesedil

@Dragonrage Yeah, nothing was responding. Restarting now, and the loading bar is moving, although slowly.

murgatroid99

22:18

@arda "violent"?

Frank

I got in, and found someone had used a lure on the closest pokestop.

arda

Yes

Frank

But it's way too freaking hot outside to even attempt the walk.

Ellesedil

@Frank It's a bad time to use a lure right now anyway.

arda

-while the game seems like it is based on building, you need to kill mobs to do so. This shows that game is based on violence

Dragonrage

22:20

@arda it isn't that hard to play without killing mobs

arda

Considering the age of playerbase, the players can't see the difference between real world and virtual world, making them think it is real

GodEmperorDune

@Frank must be the nearby business

Frank

@arda Another one of those, "Oh, no, video games promote violence rants"

@GodEmperorDune The pokestop is a church. ><

Ellesedil

@Frank They probably have air conditioning....

arda

Because animals and mobs seem to die without pain, we have seen that children doesnt think before killing

Social isolation

GodEmperorDune

22:21

@Frank maybe the minister plays pogo

Frank

@GodEmperorDune Wouldn't surprise me.

GodEmperorDune

@arda they flash red and make grunting noises

arda

Because the game is multiplayer, it can result in this being abused

That is the whole report

GodEmperorDune

though if you are anti violent videogames, there are much better places to start than minecraft

arda

@Frank this time by a part of government

Frank

22:22

@arda With Erdogan your PM, I'm not at all surprised.

Lazers 2.0

-1

Q: f3 + p doesn't work

I recently got a new windows 10 dell laptop. When I am playing minecraft I press f3 + p which is supposed to change the pause rules of the game. However it doesn't do anything but bring up the debug menu. It also doesn't work with any of the other f3 combos such as f3 + h, f3 + q, f3 + b. Somethi...

minecraft

0

Q: My Squirtle have vanished from my Pokemon Go list?!!!!

Obviously I know and understand that Pokemon ago has major issues in regards to server overloads etc with its grand opening! However, I am currently freaking out because two of my Squirtles have vanished from my Captured Pokemon list (I caught one 2 days ago and one earlier today) but also my Cha...

pokemon-go

Ellesedil

@Frank *President. He couldn't be PM for another term, so he modified the rules.

arda

@GodEmperorDune yeah, but 8yos can't protest, csgo players can

Frank

@Ellesedil Either way. Guy's a thin skinned moron.

Ellesedil

No doubt. Just adding more info that puts that on display is all :)

GodEmperorDune

22:24

@Frank he may be a moron but he has capitalized on the coup attempt quite deftly

Frank

@GodEmperorDune He's politicizing his dead citizens. That's not deft, that's daft.

murgatroid99

@GodEmperorDune From what I've seen elsewhere, most of the evidence seems to indicate that he orchestrated the "coup attempt" in order to capitalize on it

GodEmperorDune

@Frank he is purging tons of his political opponents from places of power

Frank

@GodEmperorDune Yeah, that sounds like he orchestrated it in the first place.

arda

Oh also statement from the report, by a 9yo kid: the guy is called Steve, that's me. I make houses and farms. There is a bad guy called enderman, he kills you when you look at it. So I have to kill it with fire, arrow or sword. I sometimes kill sheep to eat meat.

GodEmperorDune

22:25

@murgatroid99 i'm not surprised, i just thought it was another alex jones rumor

arda

@murgatroid99 yes

Frank

So, let's recap: Guy orchestrates coup attempt, so he has justification to remove his opposition.

People died in this attempt.

GodEmperorDune

cnn says a 3 month "state of emergency" plus firings of 50.000 government employees

murgatroid99

@Frank That's what makes it so effective

Frank

@murgatroid99 And insanely scary.

GodEmperorDune

22:28

it is a super craven thing to do

Frank

The guy cares dick all about his people. It's all about holding onto the power for him.

arda

There are like 100 abnormal stuff that shows that it is fake

GodEmperorDune

just ask stalin how well it works to purge the competent people from your military and public sector

arda

Fake as in inside job

Ellesedil

@Frank Of course. That's why he ran for President, which was ceremonial in nature, when he ran out of terms as PM, and then has centralized the government power into the seat of the President.

If he cared about anything other than himself, he would have never done that in the first place.

Lazers 2.0

22:33

-1

Q: Log in information

I logged in through the Pokemon trainer club and accidentally logged out. I tried to log back in but it says my email isn't associated with an account. Are the servers down or am I fucked?

pokemon-go

0

Q: Continued gameplay after beating Contra

I just beat the origin NES Contra. After the ending credits finished scrolling, the game took me back to the first level, with the number of lives I had accumulated during play. Are there any differences in gameplay if you continue playing after beating the game, or is it just a big loop?

nes contra

-1

Q: Does Anyone Know What 100101101010 Means In Binary?

REFERENCE TO MY QUESTION AT STACK OVERFLOW: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38490997/does-anyone-know-what-100101101010-means-in-binary Just a thought, I received a trophy while playing on Saints Row IV: Re-Elected on my PlayStation 4. In the trophy image, it reads: 100101101010 I know this ...

saints-row-4

KutuluMike

> SO: I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because this is not about programming. (A more suitable SE site would be e.g. gaming.stackexchange.com)

> Arqade: I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's about converting binary into a readable format, which isn't a gaming issue

poor guy

Dragonrage

@KutuluMike google search binary converter

Ellesedil

I did that, it's invalid because it's either too long or too short.

If you pad with 0's, you get " j" (that's a space there).

KutuluMike

that's assuming it's ASCII

it's just a binary value, dec 2410

Ellesedil

Yes, it's really unclear how to convert it.

KutuluMike

22:38

I assume it's meaningless.

Dragonrage

that's also assuming it is binary

KutuluMike

just three random bit patterns.

arda

Not worth it imo

Ellesedil

I assume it's an Easter Egg? I've never played Saint's Row.

arda

Sr is full of easter eggs

user4704

22:40

Yeah, it's gibberish in any reasonably sane context-free way to convert it.

KutuluMike

the name is an easter egg.

user4704

Probably added by a non-technical developer who thought it would "look cool."

KutuluMike

the image I think is just a smaller part of the 100% trophy, random bit patterns

GodEmperorDune

@JoshPetrie a non technical developer?

user4704

Like a designer.

user4704

22:42

Or artist.

arda

Looks like a revolver

GodEmperorDune

ah, got it

arda

user4704

Basically a developer who isn't a programmer. Although a programmer could have also done it and just not cared that it was meaningles.s

user4704

It makes me a little sad inside when people say things like

user4704

22:43

"and I actually want to learn how to read and write in binary"

Ellesedil

I found a hit on Google for a trophy with binary in Saints Row 3.

It translates out to "boob".

arda

Ahahahaha and people who thinks that programming is manually modifying bits

Frank

@JoshPetrie Matrix made it cool.

user4704

I just think, you poor soul, that's got nothing at all to do with what programming is like I hope you aren't horribly disappointed.

arda

@Ellesedil yes

Makes sense. Sr is fun and kinda full of childish humor

GodEmperorDune

22:46

@Ellesedil how? it looks like 3 bytes

Ellesedil

The binary from SR3 is different then the one he's asking about, which is from SR4.

arda

It probably means something similar

Ellesedil

It would, if it could be converted to ASCII.

But it can't.

GodEmperorDune

@Ellesedil ah, got it

Ellesedil

The binary in SR3 is valid ASCII though.

01100010011011110110111101100010

saintsrow.wikia.com/wiki/…

GodEmperorDune

22:47

i mean we don't even know if this binary is big endian or little endian

Ellesedil

kill-deckers.exe is the trophy.

user4704

The edit is better

GodEmperorDune

965 or 96A

user4704

Maybe there are 2410 containers.

KutuluMike

there are 1200something

i just looked it up

murgatroid99

22:50

@GodEmperorDune I'm pretty sure big- vs little-endian refers to byte order, not bit order

user4704

shrug

KutuluMike

i think the pattern just looked pretty

user4704

That was my guess, I'm going home now.

Dragonrage

someone should convert all those comments into a chat thingy

KutuluMike

why are 5 of the digits purple and the rest pink? it looked pretty

GodEmperorDune

22:51

@murgatroid99 crap you're right, it's been a while since i fooled around with binary

murgatroid99

Anyway, the PoGO servers are back up

GnomeSlice

Eric Andre - Ranch it Up!

►

murgatroid99

And the game actually feels more responsive now

GnomeSlice

> the trail of beers

That's brutal

NSFW warning I guess

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice yeah its eric andre, lol

GnomeSlice

22:53

> hey what are you readin, Mein Kampf?

Dragonrage

@murgatroid99 not for me

Ellesedil

@murgatroid99 I'm stuck on failing to log in.

And when I do get in, the world loads, but nothing updates.

murgatroid99

Maybe the game is just more responsive for me because nobody else can get in

Frank

@murgatroid99 I'm in.

Dragonrage

@murgatroid99 you sabotaged the game for everyone else so you could capture all the pokemon

Lazers 2.0

22:57

-1

Q: Pokemon go trouble

I have played pokemon go since it came out but all of a sudden today it says our servers are humbled by your incredible response try again later and it has been like that all day but when I try a different Google account it works just fine. Anyone know how to fix it?

pokemon-go

William

what team are you guys on?

Dragonrage

the only team that matters.

Ellesedil

Instinct!

William

what team is most popular. The article I read estimated them based on twitter tweets

Frank

Apparently my girlfriend and her friends are going Instinct. So I guess I am, too.

Ellesedil

22:58

What matters really is what team is most popular near you.

GodEmperorDune

valor is the best

mystic and instinct can go in the sea

William

is there a way to view who owns a gym without going all the way there?

like pokevision.com but for gyms

Ellesedil

@William Yes, tap on it.

Oh, that question again?

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