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arda

19:00

MUST RESIST USING ZAP

Ellesedil

The only problem with local only trading is that it will still be extremely difficult to get Pokemon of types that aren't near you. The only fire pokemon I have is from eggs. I would love to trade with someone from an area that is rich in fire pokemon.

arda

@Ellesedil that is a bug apparently

there will be more diversity

two bugs

I keep hearing that it's a bug but nobody has a source'

This is actually good for players now since pidget/weedle/caterpie are great for exp

arda

idk, uni said it

Unionhawk

The source is a man lacking a source

and so citogenesis occurs

Dragonrage

19:15

@twobugs i wish i could catch some weedles and caterpies

Lazers 2.0

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Q: How to use minecarts to tranport cages?

I need to send cages at least 10 floors down with creatures and then up again empty. Since this time around I didn't used stairs but winding halls with slopes, it takes a long time to haul them, so I was thinking on reusing the minecart to send them down, the thing is that dwarves didn't load the...

dwarf-fortress

two bugs

businessinsider.com/donald-trump-in-silicon-valley-2016-7

People talk about this kind of thing but I absolutely don't buy it

Surveys of engineers typically show strong conservative leaning

murgatroid99

It seems to be pretty liberal out here, especially at Google

two bugs

I'm sure the local culture is a big factor

But I don't believe people would stop talking to someone or try to fire them because of a different political opinion. At least I hope not

That's unbelievably stupid

It's one thing if you friend won't shut the hell up about their politics

Ellesedil

@Dragonrage I'll trade you some weedles and caterpies for fire pokemon :p

murgatroid99

19:19

I doubt anyone here would be fired just for saying "I support Trump". But that's also a small step away from "I support racism and xenophobia", which would probably get you sent to HR

two bugs

The core of this article is a really tired dumb thing - "You're not tolerating my bigotry"

MadMAxJr

I don't want to build a wall to keep Mexico out, but can we build giant walls around specific persons I have issues with?

Dragonrage

@Ellesedil i can catch you a few pontya's probably.

other than that, i have one magmar, one charmander, and one flareon

Mad Scientist

Trump might be a bit different because people might assume that someone voting for him is e.g. racist. With a more generic mainstream republican you still can't be all that sure what the supporter is thinking

Ellesedil

@Dragonrage My daughter would love you forever.

Or for the next 5 minutes.

One of those.

MadMAxJr

19:21

Oh boy.. Three more Zubats for the zubat farm.

two bugs

It just pisses me off that if you're against racism or homophobia or something you're said to be "intolerant of other opinions"

murgatroid99

Especially at a company that's trying to encourage employee diversity, and particularly trying to recruit more black and Hispanic engineers, saying that you support Trump's policies directly opposes that goal

MadMAxJr

The only way I support Trump is that I support the ability to make ridiculous facial gestures on camera.

Dragonrage

oh, i can get you loads of growlithes too. i forgot i get those all the time

two bugs

@murgatroid99 Yes, but employees are absolutely allowed to have their own political stances

murgatroid99

19:22

@twobugs Did you see that privilege essay I linked yesterday? Because this is basically the same issue: they don't see the difference in scale between "I hate black people" and "People hate me for hating black people"

two bugs

@murgatroid99 I starred it but I haven't had a chance to read it yet

Dragonrage

and apparently i picked up a vulpix somewhere

Chippies

@Dragonrage really? I have stopped catching them because that's all I have around here

is trading a thing now?

Dragonrage

@Chippies no, not yet

Ellesedil

@Dragonrage I got a vulpix from an egg.

@Chippies I wish :(

Dragonrage

19:23

@Chippies i have found 2 weedles and 2 caterpies total

i get like 80000000000 pidgeys though

murgatroid99

@twobugs Sure. You're allowed to have the opinion. But if expressing that opinion directly hurts company goals, the company is not obligated to support that expression.

Dragonrage

that and rattatas and ekans

Chippies

I get a lot of weedles, some caterpies, some pidgeys

two bugs

@Chippies You shouldn't stop catching them

MadMAxJr

One last part on Trump, I still really enjoy this.

Dungeons And Donalds

@DungeonsDonald, Trump Dungeon

The beauty of me is that I’m very good at role playing. And satire.

124 tweets, 35.4k followers, following 168 users

Some of the last few updates are golden.

two bugs

19:24

Mass evolving them with a lucky egg active is one of the best ways to get exp

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs its good and shorter than it seems. The page size is 90% troll comments at the bottom

Chippies

@twobugs I don't have much idea about the game yet, do you get pokeballs in any other way than going to pokestops?

Dragonrage

see, i avoid this problem by not talking about politics and stuff at work

@Chippies leveling

Chippies

because I don't want to be wasting pokeballs too much on junk pokemon

Dragonrage

i work ontop of a pokestop, so i get loads of stuff all the time

Ellesedil

19:25

If pokestops aren't numerous, then I can understand not catching the common stuff.

two bugs

@murgatroid99 Yes, but I'm pretty sure you're not allowed to fire employees for political stances (aside from a few specific circumstances)

Dragonrage

i have to keep throwing away revives

two bugs

@Chippies You get them mainly from pokestops and leveling

Ellesedil

But ideally, you want to be catching everything as the common pokemon are great for increasing your trainer level.

Dragonrage

because i dont need 3000 of them

Chippies

19:25

@Dragonrage all my pokestops are out of my way

and I don't plan on pokemoning and driving

and I don't plan on stopping in parking lots to get pokemon

Dragonrage

@Chippies i work downtown in a populated area, so you can't go anywhere without tripping on 3 of them, but the nearest one to my house is like a mile away

Chippies

so the only way I can get pokestops is if I'm in passenger seat

there's not much walking available in my area, there's very little reason to get out of the house unless you're in a car

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs i'm not saying google would, but there are definitely ways to fire people after they do political things without having the paperwork outright say "it's because of political things"

Lazers 2.0

-3

Q: Is it possible to get aimbot for ps3 super slim v 4.80 on b4?

I searched all the internet and no answer please help me half of players on ps3 are using aimbots howww i dont know

ps3

GodEmperorDune

and after a long and costly lawsuit, maybe the former employee gets some settlement money

Dragonrage

19:27

@Lazers2.0 not closed yet? im surprised

Unionhawk

TARGET DESTROYED

actual footage of that question getting destroyed

murgatroid99

@twobugs A lot of employment in the US is "at will", and I don't think "member of a particular political party" is a protected class. And endorsing sexism, racism, and xenophobia falls under the category of "exclusionary behavior" or "inappropriate communication" or something like that.

Mad Scientist

@twobugs I don't think republicans or democrats are a protected class. And my impression was that US employment laws allow firing for almost anything

GodEmperorDune

@MadScientist pretty much

two bugs

I thought I read somewhere you aren't allowed to do that in most states

Chippies

19:30

Just don't involve politics in your work

unless you're a politician, ofc

MadMAxJr

@MadScientist "Termination without cause"

murgatroid99

@twobugs I think one thing you can't do is dictate how your employees actually vote

two bugs

Certain specific jobs have requirements about not taking any remotely public stance

MadMAxJr

The generic, "I need to fire you over something trivial" method

Ellesedil

I once interviewed at the company that a Sanders employee "hacked". You had to be a registered democrat or independent.

Chippies

19:30

having an opinion on politics is no different than having an opinion on a sports team, imho

Ellesedil

In hindsight, I'm glad I didn't wind up working there. That "hack" was beyond stupid.

murgatroid99

@Chippies In both cases, supporting racists isn't OK

Unionhawk

I'd drink to that but it's 3:30 on a Friday

GodEmperorDune

@Chippies you can have an opinion. it is not always appropriate to voice that opinion

MadMAxJr

Oh. Sports.

Yes I enjoy a sport.

I enjoy VAR[CITY NAME], [SPORT TEAM] very much.

Chippies

19:32

@murgatroid99 yes, obviously, but if you're worried about getting fired over your racist opinions, you probably shouldn't be discussing it at the work place

GodEmperorDune

@Chippies correct

two bugs

> He's socially conservative on some issues (particularly abortion) and is against same-sex marriage for utilitarian reasons

From the same article... wat

Unionhawk

Unless you want to prove that your people are under attack

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk That makes it five o'clock somewhere (specifically an hour and a half in the future), totally acceptable

two bugs

Guy also is a self described libertarian who supports Trump

GodEmperorDune

19:32

if your company fired you for participating in a political rally outside of work time where you didn't have any company related gear or anything on, that is a different thing entirely

Unionhawk

@TimStone And I'm currently in the office

murgatroid99

@twobugs In other words "he thinks women shouldn't control their own lives and that gay people are icky"

Tim Stone

@Unionhawk #yolo

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs what utilitarian reason is that?

Chippies

@MadMAxJr SPORTS, GO SPORTS!

Unionhawk

19:33

and I'm going to the gym at 6

two bugs

I think I can see why his 'friends' have deserted him - he sounds like a stupid prick

"I'm a libertarian, so I'm supporting the fascist candidate" "Shut up Jake"

Chippies

@murgatroid99 aka "he sticks his nose in other people's business on things that don't affect him"

MadMAxJr

Let me consult my script for this... Did you see that wicked display last night?

murgatroid99

You have a right to an opinion. You don't have right to not have people treat you like an asshole if you have a shitty opinion.

Ellesedil

A libertarian that supports Trump isn't a libertarian.

GodEmperorDune

19:34

@twobugs i like smaller government except for how trump wants to expand government control over the media

MadMAxJr

I'm just glad Trump didn't run for Arqade moderator.

two bugs

Smaller gov't is a good idea in some cases but I hate the idea that we should slash everything gov't related because "gov't bad"

Unionhawk

muh freedoms

GodEmperorDune

the dallas police chief said something interesting hte other day. basically that police forces now have to do a lot more things than they should be doing

murgatroid99

Nuanced political opinions are hard. That's why we have political parties instead

GodEmperorDune

19:36

because when you cut public services, the people who relied on those services don't disappear, they usually end up being handled by criminal justice system

two bugs

He's not a martyr. He's a pariah, and for good reason

Unionhawk

I prefer to believe Jake is hypothetical

MadMAxJr

My political party consists of Crunchy Flaming Hot Cheetos(TM) enthusiasts only.

Unionhawk

it's way funnier that way

murgatroid99

@twobugs The problem is that people think that Trump having this opinion makes it legitimate, and that they suddenly can't be criticized for having shitty opinions.

Lazers 2.0

19:37

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Q: I can't log back into my pokemon go account

So, I made my account with the pokemon trainer club and I can't remember my password and think I remember my username, but when I hit the forgot button it sends me to a random page about making a account

pokemon-go

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Q: Different Pokemons in other countries

So I'm traveling soon to another country and I'm wondering if I will have a bigger chance of finding other species of Pokemons that are harder to find in my own country "Sweden". The country I'm going to is tropic and I've heard that there are different kind of Pokemons depending what country you...

pokemon-go

two bugs

Those people are ridiculous

Unionhawk

Yes

But

Those people do exist

two bugs

Freedom of speech means you can say what you want (within reason), but it also means I can criticize you for being a douchebag.

GodEmperorDune

@murgatroid99 where is that xkcd thing about freedom of speech vs freedom from consequences

Chippies

oh UPS, don't you ever change...

Unionhawk

19:38

nop[e that infringes on muh freesoms

Chippies

murgatroid99

I can't remember where I heard this, but someone once said that defending a position by citing free speech is sort of the ultimate concession; you're saying that the most compelling thing you can say for your position is that it's not literally illegal to express.

Chippies

UPS packages require a signature, but they always leave the package by the door even if no one's home

Unionhawk

May 5 '14 at 19:09, by Origami Robot

This could be avoided if XKCD would just stop being so damn relevant.

Chippies

last time it was signed by DR MAILBOX, this time it's DR BACKSTEP

Unionhawk

19:39

RIP @OrigamiRobot

Chippies

cc: @Ash

Unionhawk

@Chippies What does Dr. Mailbox have a doctorate in?

Chippies

@Unionhawk receiving packages, I assume

not sure about Dr Backstep though

perhaps colonoscopy

GodEmperorDune

the one thing i'll give jake is that the H1-B system is a mess. it gives way too much control to companies over their employees' lives

MadMAxJr

Gasp. Doctor Backstep. That jerk that is rewinding scientific progress, one step at a time!

two bugs

19:41

One thing I'll give Jake is a swift kick in the balls

2

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs i spit lunch all over my keyboard

arda

@Chippies why don't you fill a report?

Dragonrage

@twobugs that would be an assault, and is not covered by free speech

Unionhawk

RIP Jake

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs that's not quite a burn but cc @Wipqozn

arda

19:42

@Dragonrage free kick, protected by 420th amendment

Chippies

@arda because 1) while it's risky, I haven't had anything lost yet and 2) the alternative would be to reschedule delivery if I miss it and that's always annoying and always a chance I could miss it again

arda

RIP @ArdaXi

two bugs

This reminds me of this Atlantic article which was a conversation with a Trump supporter who was just like "muh freedums, people dont want me saying racist stuff ; ;"

Chippies

I only receive packages by UPS if they're from US and it's very rare that I get anything from there anyway

murgatroid99

@twobugs So, the exact same thing, but with a different person?

GodEmperorDune

19:43

@twobugs you should really read the fantastic article @murgatroid99 posted

@murgatroid99 the atlantic guy held worse views IMO

Chippies

Purolator delivers packages from within Canada and they actually do require a signature from a living person

Unionhawk

Like I said, I prefer to believe all of these are one hypothetical person named Jake

I know that isn't actually the case

two bugs

@murgatroid99 Atlantic guy was more whiney and probably worse overall

Chippies

Somebody That I Used To Know (metal cover by Leo Moracchioli)

►

user15026

@Chippies So your house is sentient and signing for packages?

Chippies

19:44

cc: people that like good cover music

@Ash that's the only explanation, I guess

not sure if I should be worried or not

GodEmperorDune

@Ash oh no, has your angry computer decided to start signing for the component deliveries?

two bugs

Anyway @Chippies re: PoGo Pokestops are the main way to get Pokeballs, but if you can hit a few you should have an absurd surplus

Dragonrage

i think it could actually be considered 1st degree assault

Chippies

I'm moving in August, so maybe we'll see if the trend continues

Unionhawk

> the official hot pockets twitter account is watching [the mario maker block]

lol

user15026

19:45

@GodEmperorDune I've not ordered anything yet, but I'm scared of an uprising

two bugs

The game itself relies around repeatedly catching the same pokemon to level up your trainer and the pokemon themselves so that is unavoidable

user15026

@Chippies Well, at least it's so far being a helpful sentient house

LessPop_MoreFizz

Chippies

@twobugs each gives 3-4 balls and sometimes I will waste 3-4 pokeballs catching a single pokemon, because I suck

LessPop_MoreFizz

Actual official apple product image.

GodEmperorDune

19:45

@LessPop_MoreFizz that's older than the news @Wipqozn usually posts

murgatroid99

@twobugs I had an absurd surplus of pokeballs, and then catching pokemon started to get harder and I ran out at one point.

two bugs

@Chippies Well after you start getting better you'll be able to catch them easier

Chippies

@Ash well, it is saving me from some inconveniences, but it's also putting my expensive devices at risk, so it's hard to tell if it's good or not :P

LessPop_MoreFizz

@GodEmperorDune I am in the remote wilderness. I am behind on things.

GodEmperorDune

@LessPop_MoreFizz its like months old

Chippies

19:46

@twobugs btw, do you use AR mode to catch pokemon or AR off?

two bugs

@murgatroid99 I burned through some of my surplus but I always have at least 30 poke 30 great

LessPop_MoreFizz

I am going to go lose cellular service for several hours now and get eaten by a bear.

Later.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Please don't get eaten by a bear

two bugs

@Chippies It's personal preference, but I turned AR mode off and it was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better

arda

@LessPop_MoreFizz JUST SAW IT

NOICE

Chippies

19:47

I find I can hit the pokemon 90% of the time in AR mode if I'm not moving, whereas in AR off I can't hit them at all

Ellesedil

@Chippies I leave AR off. It's actually harder to catch the Pokemon because the Pokemon moves when your hand does.

Chippies

I miss a ton with AR off

LessPop_MoreFizz

@twobugs I turn on AR mode to take pictures. Then turn it off to throw balls.

4

two bugs

Really? With AR off they weren't like... vibrating all over my damn screen

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Ash YOU ARE NOT THE BOSS OF ME

murgatroid99

19:47

@twobugs Actually, at this point I have 70 and 30. But that doesn't feel like a lot

Chippies

@Ellesedil I find it easier to adjust the throw strength, because I can move the camera higher, so the pokemon is lower and I can just flick the ball at it

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz FINE GET EATEN IF YOU WANT THEN I DONT CARE

GodEmperorDune

i have no great balls

Chippies

@twobugs shaky hands? I can catch them in AR easier in the passenger seat of a car, as long as we're not turning :P

doing a 90 degree turn as I throw a ball is the worst

two bugs

@Chippies Nope, they just move randomly

Dragonrage

19:48

@LessPop_MoreFizz you should eat the bear before it eats you

Chippies

@twobugs might be something wrong with your gyroscope maybe? mine don't do that

as long as the pokemon is in the view, they stay there

two bugs

@murgatroid99 I guess it's not a problem for me because I have a route with 5 or so Pokestops within a few minutes of walk

Chippies

of course it might change at high levels, I don't know

but all the pokemon I've seen so far are very stationary, besides the occasional jumping

two bugs

You're the only person who seems to prefer AR mode :P

Chippies

I definitely see the benefit of AR off, but I just find catching them easier with it on

with AR on you look like a moron in public :P

Kevin van der Velden

19:51

AR mode is cool and all, but with AR off you can just do the same thing every time and catch them every time

Chippies

I really need to try AR off sometime again

I also find that the accuracy tolerance is a lot higher in AR mode

two bugs

It almost sounds like you have the modes confused

Chippies

with AR off I had to be a lot more precise

two bugs

Because when AR is on there's a lot more movement and more randomness

murgatroid99

@twobugs I have two within range of my desk, but my inventory keeps filling up with healing items

two bugs

19:52

With AR off they just sit there

Chippies

@twobugs well, I guess my hands don't shake as much :P

two bugs

@murgatroid99 You damn 1% googlers

@Chippies Then why does it take you so many balls to catch them? :)

Chippies

@twobugs well, that's when I'm in the passenger seat going through the town around turns :P

and I also included the times when I had AR off at first

and sometimes they do bounce out of the ball...

arda

Chippies

speaking of which, I almost caught Gastly today, but the stupid game hung up, as usual

arda

19:54

Chippies

and I restarted it and it showed Gastly as seen, but not caught :(

Ellesedil

@Chippies Sounds like it escaped.

Check your journal?

Chippies

@Ellesedil it wasn't mentioned in journal

Ellesedil

Ah. Bad luck then.

Chippies

the problem was that I threw the ball, it went in the ball and then the game just hung on that screen forever

so I had to restart it

two bugs

19:55

Yep, that's Pokemon Go

Enjoy your stay

Chippies

I find I have to restart it quite often actually

Ellesedil

Yeah, that happens a lot.

Dragonrage

Jul 11 at 23:22, by Dragonrage

like seriously, I have crashed Pokémon Go more times than I have crashed Skyrim with 132 mods installed.

Chippies

sometimes I switch back to it and it's just doing the spinny pokeball thing non-stop forever, even though it's checking my location and I'm moving on the map and all

but it doesn't spawn pokemon when it's doing the spinny ball thing

arda

yeah

two bugs

19:57

If the spinning ball doesn't go away very quick you are dead

arda

the servers suck

Chippies

restarting the game fixes it, but it's annoying, because 1) it takes a while to load the game again and 2) pretty sure the loading part eats the most data

and my data is somewhat limited

I got 1gb between my wife and I, luckily she hardly uses any of it

arda

yeah

because the game runs on unity the splash screen takes too long

Unionhawk

yay

I <3 splash screens

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Pokemon GO account email verification doesn't work

I played for a few hours yesterday, and today the app glitched and logged me out, it now says I have to verify my email address but I'm not getting any emails sent to any of my accounts, is there any way to check which email I used? Or to get back into my account? I don't want to have to restart.

pokemon-go

two bugs

19:59

I hope I don't go really over on data

I hadn't really considered that

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