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19:00
Factory Idle was fun. Are there any more games sorta like it?
@Frank reactor idle is similar, same developer
@Frank Factorio?
@fredley Got it. Good game, indeed.
I should start playing it again.
the new patch is pretty great
new flamethrowers are amazing
i feel like such an asshole running through the alien villages burning them all to the ground
3
but it is so fun
Beep beep, make way for progress.
19:03
factorio makes me question my environmentalism
I like how debugging the system is literally killing bugs.
@Fluttershy she heals by shooting people with bullets? Sounds fun
@Frank Yeah, 0.13 patch came out recently
And I have an interview tomorrow.
Prediction for Oculus Touch launch date: October 5th, +/- 1 day. Although that may be when they actually announce the firm release date.
19:13
So our training is being led by one of the many great and very cool guys in Germany and I am not a bigot like @Unionhawk
The only problem is he is moving a little too fast and I'm worried we're disappointing him
The only great and cool guy in germany?
He assigned us this homework and wow, we're getting destroyed by it
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Q: Where can I get the Whole World Mod for EU3 In Nomine?

DJMethaneManI went to the mods' forum page to get the mod. I clicked the link to "You can download v3.31 for IN here (2009.12.16)". I clicked it and went to the supposed download page, but it redirected me from a filefront.com link (http://www.filefront.com/15148557/WWMv3.31Setup.exe/) to a website called th...

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Q: How do I maximize XP gain?

AlokObviously, I could level up faster as a trainer by playing all day long; but that is hardly feasible. There are various activities that give XP, some of them are controllable (like winning in gym battles) and others are somewhat random (getting a new pokemon). Other than normal gameplay like cap...

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Q: PokemonGo: Using the Map, Finding Rares

Dave GHow can I use the pokemon map to catch more/rarer pokemon? For example: Sometimes near me I see these little bursts of leaves puff up for a quick second, then disappear. Is that a sign of something bear close? How can I use the selector in the bottom right corner to find rarer pokemon? Does loc...

@fredley that is exactly how it is
19:20
there is a slowpoke and a charmander near me, but its not my lunch break yet :(
@fredley so you can sum up david cameron's legacy as "i dun goofd"
@GodEmperorDune What a ray of hope Teresa May is
unity :(
@fredley i mean look at her shoes
@Dragonrage I saw a slowpoke (silhouetter) earlier, but didn't catch
Only got common pokemon so far
19:22
darn, charmander is gone
or there are too many others closer now
have to see if i can find it during lunch
@fredley \o/
yuss team red just captured the closest gym
and lured the nearest stop
bbl
So many lured stops around me
@GodEmperorDune blue team just captured the nearest one here, and form the red team
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Q: Factors for max CP at a particular trainer level?

AlokFor any given pokemon, the max CP to which it can be powered up depends on the trainer level. Also, the unevolved forms have a lower CP ceiling (e.g. powered up Pidgey would be far lower CP than Pidgeotto). For a given trainer; is the max CP going to be the same for all final evolutions such as...

19:25
@fredley :( I have one stop a km away from here, and that's all. ANd I can't even see if it's lured or not since it's too far away.
there are 3 paras and 3 ekans nearby
@Arperum wat
There is a single ratata nearby. Nothing else.
I set off with a 5.0km egg this morning, and visited maybe 30 pokestops. I only made it to 3.5km
Living in the centre of London has its upsides
19:26
Is there a way to check what things are in my area for PokeGo without downloading the apk?
@Chippies Nope, sadly.
@fredley Welcome to living in the middle of nowhere, wheere we have no pokestops and barely pokemon. because they all live in the cities.
@Arperum Well you have real animals and shit instead
@KazWolfe that's lame :/ Figured it would be something someone would have made by now in a web format
@Chippies If you make an ingress account you can locate portals, which are gyms or pokestops.
through a website.
@fredley Shit indeed.
19:28
@Arperum eh, I don't really want to make an account just for that. I mean, if I do that, I may as well just download PokeGo itself...
@Chippies Uhu.
I should look into finding the updated apk. because not released for location yet and update happened.
give us time to reverse engineer the protocol
I assume all the pokestops and such are same for everyone, so I figured there might be a way to see them on a map without having to make accounts
@Chippies Yeah, someone will reverse-engineer the data sooner or later
Working on it! :D
19:30
I was thinking of something more like a wiki thing where people add things as they find them
but reverse engineering probably works too :P
Niantic keeps that data locked up so... yeah.
@Chippies Well, the thing is that with a free ingress account you already have a complete map.
You need to have an auth token to get portal info
Since the data is sent encrypted, it's going to be pretty hard to get anything useful out of it
@KazWolfe But it's identical to Ingress data, so can't be that hard
19:31
@Arperum fair enough, I suppose it does the same thing as I'm thinking of. Too bad it requires an account though
@Chippies A user-driven thing got linked already, it's just very barren
@fredley It's not identical.
@murgatroid99 Set up your own root CA
Oh my god the OoT glitch exhibition this year
@KazWolfe Oh I thought it was
19:31
@fredley Not that easy
@fredley The data formats are completely different
@KazWolfe Not that hard either, it only needs one person to do it
@KazWolfe oh ok, I have been misinformed
@fredley No, it's not CA.
PoGo probably pins the cert, AND they have some custom encoding
And we don't have the spec file to decode it
@KazWolfe You spoof a CA so you can intercept the packets, spoof your requests
Protobuf, i think
Many an api has been reverse engineered this way, see Siri
19:33
@fredley You can't spoof a pinned cert
That's the whole point
@murgatroid99 Is it actually pinned?
@fredley Already tried that, a lot.
There are strings that seem to declare cert pinning, and there is a custom protocol known as Protobuf.
Even if we manage to get the packets (which we really can't because it seemingly keeps using the real cert instead of the spoof one), we can't decode the protocol because we can't decode Protobuf without the definitions file.
To be clear, if you ever do decrypt it, you can definitely extract some information from the protobuf data
Just strings though. Quite a bit is still locked away
It's likely you would be able to extract all of the data, just not the name associated with each field
19:36
@KazWolfe Meh, there's always a way. Decompile the apk?
or field boundaries
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Q: Playing Pokemon Go while Driving

user154772Due to the nature of my job, I spend a significant amount of time driving. The type of roads I drive on vary from highway, to city streets, to country roads depending on the specific job. With all the distance I travel each day, I can reach a number of Pokestops and gyms - but I find it difficult...

@fredley Doing it now.
Hahaha @ one of the Maximize EXP answers being "Have a lot of phones"
Just buy lucky eggs
@KazWolfe You can infer field boundaries from an encoded protobuf message
19:37
@murgatroid99 eh. I haven't been able to pull spawn data from my captured messages yet.
But they might be encrypted using the pinned cert.
@Lazers2.0 pls no
@KazWolfe Dump the keys from memory
@KazWolfe If you ever need it, this page describes the protobuf encoding format
@fredley That won't give me the private key.
Jul 8 at 18:14, by Dragonrage
Protip: Don't Drive and GO.
19:38
@KazWolfe No, but it'll give you the session key
@Lazers2.0 Pirated, no less.
grr. i wish i could do ARPing here.
no wifi router available though, which sucks
interesting. i didn't realize you could filter review queues
19:58
> Ashley has read 119 of 125 books
Bloody robots (cc @Ash)
@Wipqozn I could have sworn there were more books than that.
@Frank No, I did not pirate the EU3 game in regards to your comment this deleted question. By "I can't afford the game" I simply meant that I have not bought EU4 because I can't afford it. NO PIRATING HERE. I have more class than to steal from gamedevs - that is how they make their living afterall.
@DJMethaneMan Ahh, okay. Sorry, misread that.
EU3 and EU4 is a distinction I missed.
@DJMethaneMan Either way, that question is off-topic on the main site, but you're free to ask here in chat, but you'd probably have more luck at /r/paradoxplaza tracking down the mod
@Frank It's fine, I might not have been completely clear. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't going down as the scum of our gaming stack exchange because of a miscommunication. I'll try tracking him down, but the few times I have posted the mods trashed my posts for unclear/invalid reasons.
So, if anybody has a copy of the EU3 In Nomine version of the Whole World Mod floating around, could you post a link or something. Thanks.
20:13
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Q: Do my actual surroundings have any effect on the type of nearby pokemon?

SidneySo, I've noticed that when I go on a walk around where I work (mostly open field with a small pond) I find pokemon types I would associate with an open field. Ratatta, Pidgey, insect types. I haven't played anywhere else, so it's hard to gauge, but would I be more likely to find say, a water poke...

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Q: do we need playstaion + or playstaion network membership to play onlin even if we have WIFI

Farhan Abdul Aziz BukhariHi I am hearing that we need PlayStation + PlayStation network membership to play online then only we can play but I have a WiFi so I wanna ask can we play with WiFi or PlayStation network me member is needed to play online Thanks

user15026
@Wipqozn What can I say, being a cyborg has its perks ;)
@MadMAxJr Damn you, was just starting to type an answer
@Ash I think you're the only bot that can hug with nuclear arms.
user15026
@MadMAxJr nuclear snuggles are best snuggles
It leaves a hug shadow permanently burned into the surface.
20:22
Set phasers... to hug.
You don't have to break into a secure biological research facility to get a Mewtwo in Pokemon Go do you?
Um...
No.
Just curious, if location bias is a thing.
They're considered to be POKEMON_CLASS_MYTHIC, meaning they are event only
Just waiting for pictures of someone ARing a mew under a truck.
20:23
so you probably need to be japan on x day
All of Japan or can I just be one prefecture?
@MadMAxJr I've already seen these
I would hope that they wouldn't distribute certain pokemon only in particular regions
Hey mods, we close accounts of users who announce they're under 13 right?
modflag
It requires CM lasers
20:26
Neat. So you have to both turn your key in the console and push the button.
Yeah, I assume so
And then all trace of that user ever even existing is eliminated
@murgatroid99 it's sort of always been that way due to events being region based
Japan usually gets the cool pokemon first
To get Zapdos, you must climb the tallest mountain.
I think he means specific to Pokemon GO
@Unionhawk I know, but I'm just saying that it's sort of always been a thing with Pokemon
20:28
I know, but hopefully that isn't a thing in this case
and the only way to get 151 is to be in japan or cheat
event pokemon will still probably require you to be in a specific place at a specific time range, like all pokemon events have always been though
Patch notes: Magnetite now only available in space.
SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE
@Unionhawk which is semi-true, but worse in all pokemon games
You can 151 gen 1 easy
20:30
Mew events are so rare, it's practically impossible to get the original 151 pokemon
if... I recall correctly?
@Unionhawk in gen 1 games or in general?
Or does mew require event/glitch
Mew is an event pokemon
user15026
@MadMAxJr I've passed that along to the appropriate party :)
20:31
Mew and Mewtwo are MYTHICAL class.
How the fuck did they do events back then? Link cables?
and those events happen once every like 5 years or so
@Unionhawk I believe so
Goddamn
Well you can still 151 gen 1
@Unionhawk Basically they had a special device that traded generated mews.
@Chippies wat
such bs
You can catch anything in gen 1 in 564 easy memory manipulation steps.
How Mews were given --^
It just requires speedrunner level magic
@MadMAxJr if i only was a TAS
GDQ showed me that anything is possible in pokemon, just like Zombocom.
20:32
@Unionhawk no you can't, without glitching, because those events don't exist right now
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Q: What are the creators of Pokemon go doing about the armed robberies?

BryanMy parents aren't letting me have to app because of the robberies. What are y'all doing to help stop them?

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Q: Pokémon GO: Visiting New Zealand, unable to install (Android)

detueI am currently on a trip in New Zealand and I wanted to install Pokémon GO here from the regular Google Play Store since in my home place (DE) it is not yet released. But I keep getting it not offered. Is there a way to make this work?

36 secs ago, by Unionhawk
It just requires speedrunner level magic
Pokemon is a turn-based game. You don't need to be a speedrunner to do anything in it
@Unionhawk I thought we were talking about glitchless ways to do things
@murgatroid99 speedrunner level magic as in generating glitched encounters
@Chippies pfft
20:34
with glitching I can get any pokemon, not just gen 1 151
With glitching, walls are merely a reccomendation.
Maybe
in fact, I did that in alpha sapphire for the event pokemon...
@Chippies in the original game you got pokemon that weren't invented yet?
First of all a real gameshark device is not a glitch
20:34
I have all 720 pokemon, got them all legit, except a whole bunch of event ones
A soft gameshark like in item underflow, is a glitch
@GodEmperorDune I never said I can get "any pokemon" in "any pokemon game"
@Unionhawk I remember doing that for Missingno and infinite Master Balls
There's some super weird stuff that you can do with item underflow
@Unionhawk 3DS below certain fw version has a browser overflow bug that lets you run scripts, which lets you import pokemon from SD card
20:35
nice
@murgatroid99 yeah that was a fun one
Wow. The gym in a nearby building has changed control about a dozen times today
20:50
POKEMON IS MAKING THE WORLD ABETTER PLACE
@Wipqozn That's a good idea.
@Frank It really is
My favorite was the bar that would give a free beer to anyone who placed a lure on their Pokestop
Muncie, home of nothing special
I live about 30 min from Muncie
@Sterno are you jerry from parks and rec?
20:59
That reference is lost on me
@GodEmperorDune you mean Larry?
@Chippies Gary, terry... i don't remember what his real name is
@GodEmperorDune his real name was Garry, but it was hardly ever used
Garry Gergich is a fictional character in the TV series Parks and Recreation, portrayed by Jim O'Heir. From season 1 to season 6 he is referred to as Jerry (even suggesting his mother called him "Gerald"), for which reason the character is usually referred to by this name in external media; for most of season 6 he is called Larry; from the end of season 6 through much of season 7 he is called Terry; and only near the end of the series is his true name restored: Garry. Jerry has appeared in every episode of the series, with the exception of the first season episode "Canvassing". He was credited...
wow he gets a full wikipedia page?
the actor who plays him is hilarious in a veep episode
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Q: i have high ping when stream on obs but fine fps

Shamazing1231 What can i do to lower the ping. Not looking for amazing ping. Around 90 would be fine but I get 900.My fps and everything is fine though so idk.

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Q: Is it possible to come out of your mmr bracket in dota?

BanditoBunnyOnce you've been assigned a certain MMR, how probable is it to improve it? As far as i know matchmaking works in a way that probability to win of each team is 50/50. On a long run u will lose as much games as u will winn, so it should be very hard to leave you mmr bracket.

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Q: Can I play Pokemon Go in a country that I am visiting that does or does not have it available?

EllesedilI'm from the United States and I'll be visiting Canada soon. Since Pokemon Go is not out for Canada yet, would I still be able to play and catch Pokemon in Canada seeing as my phone/game/account all originate from the United States? And for that matter, will I be able to play Pokemon Go in Canada...

21:12
cc @Yuuki @StrixVaria @Fluttershy @arda
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@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment not a bad se concept. Still not committing or following.
@arda Way too broad.
Hmm. This is bad. All my sub-prod instances went down.
@Frank we missed you in the close vote queue
21:26
@GodEmperorDune I was never there to begin with. :P
I was always the one voting to close, first.
same difference :p
the custom close reasons just aren't the same
@Frank yea, i had to take your spot as being the first to vtc, so i wasnt getting my close vote queue reviews in :P
@Frank lovely
can't even bother to post offensive things with proper spelling
oops, i flagged it as spam
instead of offensive
oh well
it does the same thing right? if it gets 5? or 7? spam/offensive flags it is auto deleted right?
hmm someone has an areodactyl at a nearby gym
21:38
There was a lapras on a gym near my work. It was a blue gym and they had stolen the gym over noon from red :(
@Arperum :(
i smashed a red gym earlier. It only had a level 15 bulbasaur
@GodEmperorDune There was one blue gym and three red ones in sight (one of them mine, one of a friend) then over noon all three red gyms turned blue.
@Dragonrage :(
I'm lvl 7...
@Arperum he probably means 15 CP
@GodEmperorDune yea
21:41
@GodEmperorDune That's very low.
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Q: I have no Pokemon near me on my iPhone but there is on my moms android

Kylethere's only Pokemon around me if I use incense there's none in my near Pokemon tab but my mom just got the app and there's loads around her but I have an I phone and she has a galaxy so there's obviously something wrong with my version right?

also nice job on the first posts reviews again. see you hit 20 again
Did anyone see or share this here today? Pokémon Go hot spots and private property
yea, it was on hnq
21:44
ugh. how the hell do I get my pictures out of PO:GO
which pictures?
if you take a photo in AR mode
i took a picture of me utterly failing to catch a Venusaur
along with ~100 other people standing around some poor offices's parking lot
Don't they go to your regular photo storage on your phone?
i did not see them in the usual folder
oh, i just screen shot stuff
21:46
in my Photos app there is a separate folder for them but that folder is not in the DCIM folder on my phone
someone at the restaurant below me keeps dropping lures on the pokestop here
one of the employees at the McDonalds near my work was doing it.
soon as it would run out he'd drop another one.
also, it seems like pokemon attracted by a lure are harder to catch
and my throws somehow keep turning into curve balls
if you spin the pokeball while you're holding it down it curves.
I think i do it accidentally
@KutuluMike i do it without trying apparently
21:49
if you do it on purpose the effect is clear.. it starts sparkling and curves noticably.
anyway, i found the best place in the world to pokehunt.
this park had 5 overlapping pokespots, and lures on all of them for over 2 hrs
and right near a Five Guys Burgers and an Ice Cream shop
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Q: Can I back up data on PS4?

The Potato ManI was wondering if it was possible to back up data on PS4 in case my account got deleted. If it is possible, do you have any suggestions on how?

22:07
700 xp for catching an Onyx
oooh, got a kabuto
nice on the onyx
Is Ikeman an offensive term?
cmon queue, 3 more low quality posts and i'm capped
22:32
@GodEmperorDune i hit that a few hours ago :)
user15026
That comic also reminds me I should study my Russian today.
@Ash da comrade
What is this weird place? I remember coming here once upon a time
22:47
@Powerlord This is The Bridge. The general Arqade chat.
Informative!
I would ask if Sternold was still around, but I don't need to now!
Seriously, though, it hasn't been that long since the last time I was here... April at the longest.
And since I'm full of non-sequiturs, I'll just leave this here:
I'll see that non-sequitur and raise it.
22:50
At least mine is game related!
@Powerlord I am so hype for Ana you have no idea
user15026
@Powerlord That's a long time in internet time
Also, it amuses me that the tags in the title haven't changed since the last time I was here.
@Unionhawk btw, have you seen the rebalances for Mercy, Zenyatta, and D.Va?
Also hype
Granted, they're PTR patch notes so could change later.
user15026
22:52
@SaintWacko I keep mistaking мужчина for машина when I hear it and that makes for very interesting sentences.
Especially D.va, but mercy being able to fly in and gtfo will be great
user15026
(For those of you not poking Russian with a stick - I keep mistaking the word "man" for the word "car" and chaos ensues)
You know what the best part of Overwatch announcing something new? It might mean I can go 10 minutes without someone mentioning Pokemon GO on my Twitter feed.
@Ash gotta catch em all, pokecar
also lulz because @ash
did you plan this? are you secretly behind pokemon go?
user15026
@GodEmperorDune Yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't even catch Pokemon, it's not here yet and I don't feel confident in side-loading
22:54
@Ash a most convenient alibi
user15026
@GodEmperorDune Isn't it just? :)
Plus damage boost buff to make decisions of "should I just do this myself" a more clear no
oh oh oh
i had a word request for you @ash
user15026
@GodEmperorDune Oh?
a noun that means doing something for a religious reason, like volunteer work
i was thinking penance, but that is to make up for something
it's not like you are atoning for something you're just like volunteering your time to help build a temple
user15026
22:57
@GodEmperorDune Oh, so not religious people volunteering? Because I'd call that outreach/missions
user15026
but more like....people giving their time to religious causes?
@Ash like volunteering your time to help the church but not as specific as outreach/missions
@Ash Since there was a malware infected version of Pokemon GO out less than 24 hours after the real version launched, that's probably a good idea
If you get a legit source it's okay
user15026
@Powerlord That was kinda what I figured, that it would be risky
user15026
22:58
@GodEmperorDune Do you have a more specific idea of what kind of work?
@Ash context would be dwarves building the equivalent of a cathedral
Usually just... Like, volunteering
user15026
Because like...we'd call just about anything outreach when I was a church-going youth-group-superinvolved Jesus kid
Or... Hmm
doing the work very specifically and exactly as a form of religious worship to moradin

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