The Bridge

ardaozkal

21:00

@Ktash what is life?

amazon don't hurt me

don't hurt me

no more

Ktash

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ardaozkal

TBH the only thing that amazon doesn't deliver to turkey that hurts me is the fact that I can't get a replacement Kindle.

GnomeSlice

@ardaozkal February

Yuuki

@Ktash It's definitely still controversial and I realize that it's a bit hypocritical of me as someone who hates OMD with a passion, but I'm willing to wait it out and hope the story arc resolves itself properly.

Frank

I'm just gonna go with, "Massive problem, that's not him, bad bad writing."

Yuuki

21:10

> If orcs and half-orcs treat any weapon with "orc" in its name as a martial weapon, does that mean I have weapon proficiency with sorcerers?

ToxicFrog

21:23

When fixed width fonts are not actually fixed width :(
http://i.imgur.com/JjJNwil.png

@ardaozkal Canada is "temperate", which is to say, "has a 60-80° variation in temperature of the course of a year, and 20-30° on some individual days"

And we are now entering summer, aka The Worst Season

GnomeSlice

haha

chrono writes funny email ads

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog then disable truetype

It does some magic to make text render as something more readable than 24x24 tiles

But it doesn't add extra text to render

GnomeSlice

collective.square-enix.com

Iron Tides Promo Trailer

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This sounds like the guy who did the darkest dungeon trailer

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden is it even possible to disable truetype support in Konsole? I know you can in xterm using .Xdefaults, but I'd like this to work in konsole and gnome-terminal as well.

GnomeSlice

Maybe not, actually

ardaozkal

21:37

actually you know what? I'm ditching ASP. PHP master race

committing sudoku

Further proof TImelord doesn't play Overwatch

yet feels compelled to "put me in my place"

Doesn't even know what the fuck he's talking about

ToxicFrog

@ardaozkal you monster

committing sudoku

@badp I think a user may be targetting me

See, he doesn't comment on these questions

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog I mean, it's some kind of magic being used somewhere, I dunno

committing sudoku

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Q: What are all the friendly and enemy ultimate sounds?

When ultimates are used in Overwatch, a unique voice line sound effect is played, and it sounds different depending on which team used the ability. Does anyone have a list of what the two voice lines are for each character? Also some enemy voice lines seem to be much harder to hear (Widowmaker, S...

overwatch

But he feels the need to downvote and vtc every question I put up

Kevin van der Velden

21:41

I'd guess it is a game setting though

committing sudoku

Also, this information is freely available, in game, where the player can freely view all hero audios. A clear example of "shows no research". — Timelord64 2 hours ago

This idiot has no idea what he's talking about

ardaozkal

@ToxicFrog ASP is too confusing for such a small and open source project.

committing sudoku

clearly, he's never played Overwatch before, neither does he even know what the question is about

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden this is a game I'm writing. The problem is that the font is ostensibly fixedwidth, but some unicode symbols are 1.5em in width rather than 1em, and the tty can't cope with that

Kevin van der Velden

@ardaozkal Is it less than 10 lines?

ardaozkal

21:42

@KevinvanderVelden way longer

Kevin van der Velden

Then it is probably acceptable to consider not banishing PHP from being on the same server

ToxicFrog

@ardaozkal my objection isn't to dropping ASP, it's to using PHP.

ardaozkal

@ToxicFrog yeah, php sucks. Might use Node too.

Kevin van der Velden

If you find MVC ASP confusing don't use node

GnomeSlice

IT'S HAPPENING https://t.co/FrTVZ619V6

Tweeted by DaveOshry on May 28, 2016 at 8:39 PM

ardaozkal

21:45

@KevinvanderVelden any recommendations?

Kevin van der Velden

Plain ASP.NET

Something with python

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden This is aggravating because there are a lot of symbols that are ideal for this, but since they're 1.5em I can't use them without the tty going sproing. I'm probably going to end up having to go the nethack route and just using punctuation for a bunch of item classes.

Kevin van der Velden

Basically: Not PHP because PHP is the worst, and not NodeJS because it's... it's a system for writing a web server and program in it, not for writing a website in

ardaozkal

@KevinvanderVelden it is a webserverish

Kevin van der Velden

@ardaozkal no, it has libraries that make it easy to do, but it's not a webserver

If in your code you have to tell it to start a webserver and listen on a port it's not a webserver. You've written one

ardaozkal

21:50

oooh I see

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog I don't know. Have never had that happen. Are you using weird new unicode symbols that the monospace font doesn't have yet?

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden I might be, actually, I'm not well versed in how font loading and fallback works on Linux (or anything, really)

Kevin van der Velden

@ToxicFrog You're writing a terminal game right?

ToxicFrog

Yes.

GnomeSlice

Elevated Bus That Drives Above Traffic Jams

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whut

ardaozkal

21:53

It will be open source anyways: You'll login with steam and be able to post steam codes (and set criterias like x+ games) and get a link. People with that link will be able to get it ALA they fit in criterias (1 code in 1 day from me etc).

GnomeSlice

china, pls do it

although that seems super dangerous

Kevin van der Velden

Then you don't really need to worry about it too much, but basically it tries to find the glyph you want rendered and if it doesn't have that it uses a system default font. The default font probably not being monospace

What character are you rendering?

murgatroid99

@KevinvanderVelden That doesn't really make sense. No language is a web server.

Kevin van der Velden

@murgatroid99 Try reading it in the context of this statement:

> it's a system for writing a web server and program in it, not for writing a website in

murgatroid99

@KevinvanderVelden I know. My point is that this is not a distinguishing feature of a language. Every programming language is like that

fredley

21:57

@PrivatePansy

murgatroid99

For PHP, it just happens that you write Apache server configurations instead of PHP code, and for ASP.NET you write IIS configurations

Kevin van der Velden

I was against nodejs for @ardaozkal because it is not a system for writing websites in, like PHP, ASP.NET etc are

GnomeSlice

The patience of a true friend

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(mute the video)

murgatroid99

@KevinvanderVelden Why is the three lines of code for spinning up a web server the important difference here?

ToxicFrog

@KevinvanderVelden All those item icons in the screenshot. Problematic ones include "T-shirt", "bomb", and "top hat".

Kevin van der Velden

21:59

Last time I used nodejs it was a bunch more than that for setting up a webserver that would actually be useable in release

GnomeSlice

Kevin van der Velden

But I'm not gonna argue I am tired and going to bed

murgatroid99

I'm pretty sure that the combination of express and cluster is enough to run a reasonably solid server on a single machine

GnomeSlice

okay one more

Yuuki

Yeah, I occasionally talk like that.

ardaozkal

22:10

@GnomeSlice cc @badp

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice until it gets stuck behind a truck

GnomeSlice

@GodEmperorDune haha yeah

also in one of the concepts it seems pretty close to the outside edge of a car

like how do you make sure all the cars stay inside the lanes enough to get by safely

GodEmperorDune

i mean its a cool idea

GnomeSlice

yaeh

GodEmperorDune

@GnomeSlice that too

GnomeSlice

22:12

but probably a bad one

Sepia Lazers

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Q: People who make blind comments on game questions when they don't play the games themselves

Timelord64 made a comment on an Overwatch question, a game he doesn't play, very clearly: Also, this information is freely available, in game, where the player can freely view all hero audios. A clear example of "shows no research". On this specific question which he VTC'd due to list q...

support

Fluttershy

@SepiaLazers Is he seriously saying I've never played Overwatch? O_o

That's like saying Keith Richards never tried cocaine.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy It's not about you

ardaozkal

@Fluttershy it is about timelord64

Fluttershy

@ardaozkal Check the edit.

GodEmperorDune

22:22

@GnomeSlice nah @Fluttershy's name was editted out too

GnomeSlice

haha

GodEmperorDune

well i might as well cc @sterno for this drama

GnomeSlice

Why does it have to be drama?

It's a meta post

ardaozkal

@GnomeSlice meta -> atem -> datem -> dratema -> drama

Unionhawk

3 year old falls into the gorilla exhibit, dragged by male gorilla. Response team forced to use lethal force

:(

GodEmperorDune

22:26

@GnomeSlice @Sterno asked i cc him on all the drama

calling people out on meta seems like drama to me

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Is there any way to play online on Trigger Fist. Not with a friend but with people globally?

I have started playing Trigger Fist and think it's great but I was wondering if their was a way to play with other real people, not just the bots. I do not want to play 'multiplayer' with a friend, just with others globally. Is that possible? Also, after a game, down where the 'next unlock' guns ...

trigger-fist

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@SepiaLazers I think there's irony here, but we may have gone too far past irony and into something terrifying

Fluttershy

I don't think I've voted to close a single Overwatch question. I don't know what the hell he's talking about.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy biased? :P

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice Nope! Usually, people VTC before I can, due to work.

user15026

22:34

Yay new phone that works and doesn't make me want to throw things. Now I get the fun of spending the evening setting it up just so.

Fluttershy

I've sure as hell downvoted a lot of them, though. Because a lot of them fall under "lack of research," since several have information easily accessible in the game itself.

user15026

Why does it seem like Overwatch has caused a bunch of site drama? Or is that just cognitive bias on my part?

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn because its the new hotness

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What drama? It mainly just seems to be a certain user being silly. I don't really see any drama?

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn I wouldn't blame Overwatch.

GodEmperorDune

22:36

and it's done the beta is public, now not public, now open release dance

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Granted, I have a narrow view of things because I've been too busy playing Overwatch :P

GodEmperorDune

and there was "should we set up all these tags prematurely" meta question

user15026

@Fluttershy I'm not really blaming anything, I'm more just noticing an uptick in meta stuff and the like lately and my mind mapped that to roughly when the game came out, or well, the whole beta dance

two bugs

Oh, meta questions

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Aaah, gotcha.

Unionhawk

22:38

The beta nonsense did most of it I think

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I think the meta discussions have been fairly reasonable. There was some frustration over beta questions but that's behind us now

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Do pets (particularly, horses,dogs, and cats) gain intrinsics and/or or other benefits from eating corpses?

After I acquire the particular intrinsic conveyed by a corpse, I most often let my pets eat the rest (unless I need food). I've looked on the wiki, but haven't found anything about whether this allows the pet to also acquire that intrinsic. It would be nice to know if my large cat/dog/warhorse ...

nethack

GnomeSlice

Tim Stone

Between Music: AquaSonic - trailer

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Woah O_o

The singers are able to sing underwater by creating an air bubble in their mouths and that's just crazy

GnomeSlice

22:58

Twistboy – Toadstone

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two bugs

It's frustrating that factory idle seems to go down to 1 tick/sec when not focused

And that the creator seems to have monetized it

...Pretty heavily

GnomeSlice

I would

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I'm not saying you can't make money off a game, but if you monetize it too much you risk alienating a lot of players

And that's sort of what it feels like with factory idle

committing sudoku

@Fluttershy Found it :0

May 5 at 0:42, by Fluttershy

1 min ago, by Fluttershy

For what it's worth, there wasn't a youtube video when I saw the question and voted accordingly. Now that there is, though, I've removed my downvote.

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I'm confused... did you make a meta because someone downvoted you a month ago? And then retracted that downvote when you edited your thing...?

committing sudoku

23:01

Remember, never lie :)

GnomeSlice

@committingsudoku this doesn't mean he's never played the game

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I can't even tell what is going on anymore

I'm just going to stay out of this because it seems really, really silly.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Is there any way to heal a Mr Handy in Fallout Shelter?

I have a mr handy, but he has sustained damage from things like radroaches, mole rats, fires etc Is there any way to heal him?

fallout-shelter

committing sudoku

Well, he made some stupid assumption, then gave a vote, then accused me of lying about it

isn't that great :)))

May 5 at 0:42, by Fluttershy

1 min ago, by Fluttershy

For what it's worth, there wasn't a youtube video when I saw the question and voted accordingly. Now that there is, though, I've removed my downvote.

two bugs

People are allowed to downvote things for whatever reason they want.

committing sudoku

23:06

Yeah, and if they do it for pettiness or some flawed judgement, then I care

two bugs

I'm trying to be as polite as possible when I say this but you are the one being very petty right now. The downvote was rescinded.

committing sudoku

He made the judgement when I initially aksed it

two bugs

I'm not going to compare timestamps because this is really silly and I don't care but if you read the message you have quoted - numerous times - you would see he based it on the question before the youtube video was added

committing sudoku

"I just serial voted but I said sorry so it's all fine now right :)"

okay yeah ok

two bugs

The quote you are presenting does not support your argument

GnomeSlice

23:10

Yakushimaru Etsuko - Kami-sama no Iu Toori - Version Z80

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two bugs

If you want to accuse a user of serial voting, I recommend you find some supporting evidence first

Anyway, it seems my suspicion is correct in that this is just pure, unabashed silliness so I'm going to go make dinner

GnomeSlice

committing sudoku

That's your line of logic

You can do something completely dumb

And just say "well i changed it back, it's okay now"

don't worry, i just went on a downvoting spree, but dont ban me I already said sorry

don't punish me

IM FREE OF SIN

user15026

@TimStone I love this but the music is so ethereal and creepy at the same time

committing sudoku

Don't forget Timelord64

No list questions :)

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Q: Is there any scrappable junk I should hold on to that could otherwise be used for other purposes?

Fallout 4 adds the kleptomaniac-friendly ability to deconstruct practically anything into useful components. As such, I have built an impressive store of building materials, and enforce a "pick up everything, leave nothing" strategy. This works quite well. However, a few guys on Live have been r...

fallout-4

GnomeSlice

23:14

> My Little Darksouls

what even

Fluttershy

@committingsudoku Apparently you struggle with reading comprehension. "there wasn't a youtube video when I saw the question," followed by, "Now that there is, though, I've removed my downvote." But if you want to continue with this petty persecution complex, by all means, continue.

GnomeSlice

why

committing sudoku

I'm assuming you mean this Lucio question, which I've neither voted, nor commented on. Also, I've not hidden the fact that I play the game, and have followed it heavily since its announcement. So please, before you throw blind accusations around, do some research. — Fluttershy 1 hour ago

Okay Fluttershy

"WHICH I'VE NEITHER VOTED, NOR COMMENTED ON

words to live by

Fluttershy

@committingsudoku Note that I didn't say I never voted on it. As the question sits now, I have not voted on it at all. Thus making my statement true.

committing sudoku

Oh okay, playing with words now

Cool, nice to see you trying to backtrack now

That's okay if you want to make excuses for yourself

Fluttershy

23:23

@committingsudoku I'm not backtracking. I'm trying to show you how petty and immature you're being over this. But again, please continue to cry and play the victim here because you can't follow established rules.

committing sudoku

Ahhh, still grasping at straws

That's okay

Fluttershy

k Bye. You wanna be intentionally obtuse, you can sit on my ignore list. :)

ardaozkal

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Q: PHP and OpenID = 500 error

Having a really strange problem. Scenario: PHP5.2.9, IIS7, PHP running as FastCGI. I have a site at test.concentratedtech.com. Click login, enter OpenID credentials, hit "Verify," and immediate 500 error. Click Back, resubmit the page, works fine. An IIS failed request trace reveals two messag...