The Bridge

fredley

12:00

@MBraedley I live in mac land where everything is an anonymous hole

Nate Kerkhofs

Also, for some reason I no longer get a sound when i'm mentioned

fredley

@NateKerkhofs I don't think that one is being used meaningfully

MBraedley

@NateKerkhofs Top right next to the all rooms button

Nate Kerkhofs

Wait, now I get the sound again

fredley

@NateKerkhofs I reckon you could do a lot with video ports

@NateKerkhofs Can

@NateKerkhofs you

@NateKerkhofs hear

@NateKerkhofs me

@NateKerkhofs now

@NateKerkhofs ?

Nate Kerkhofs

12:01

@fredley I'm so close to flagging you for spam

fredley

@NateKerkhofs :P

Nate Kerkhofs

Would that even be considered spam? I mean, he just sent me 6 separate messages where one would suffice

fredley

@NateKerkhofs It's called 'trolling'

Nate Kerkhofs

@fredley Which can still be flagged for "offensive"

And yes, I can hear you now

fredley

@NateKerkhofs Potentially

Frank

12:02

@NateKerkhofs Which also means nothing.

Because he's a mod, so he can't be banned.

fredley

@Frank It's literally impossible!

Nate Kerkhofs

@Frank so not even admins can ban him?

fredley

Although I can get demodded and then banned

@NateKerkhofs Now without demodding me first, which is quite a serious course of action

Frank

@NateKerkhofs It'd have tobe something super egregious to make that happen.

fredley

Has happened to people though

Nate Kerkhofs

12:04

In other news, I'm currently really enjoying Quantum Conundrum

two bugs

I get really sad when I see a program I would like to download and it's only offered on Sourceforge

Unionhawk

It just occurred to me that Doom is the Dark Souls of shooters

cc @twobugs

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Doing this on a Monday morning should be illegal

I need to find some way to counter troll you

Wipqozn

@Lazers2.0 That user always makes me think of @Oak

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Wikipedia vandalism news is really funny to follow

There's a lot of SPORTSBALL vandalism it seems

Sportsball guy punched someone? Better add one to his career hits!

Unionhawk

12:14

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Hm, another VR partnership cropping up. This is going to be what, the 4th competing device? I hope this doesn't oversaturate the market

No wait, 5th I think. Maybe 6th. Who even knows

Unionhawk

The Internet, probably

There exists a definitive answer

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The Internet simultaneously knows and doesn't know

Unionhawk

Mmm

The circle of idiocy

Or something

Nate Kerkhofs

@twobugs So basically, the internet is Shrödinger's knowledge

also, I appear to be suffering from a mild bleeding effect

Lazers 2.0

12:21

1

Q: How many colonies can be put into a sector?

So far I've planned on only putting as many colonies into one sector as my directly controlled planets allowed (i.e. if I can control 5 colonies directly, I only put 5 colonies in a sector). Is this actually correct or is there no limit for sector size or even a fixed one independent from the di...

stellaris

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Thanks to you jerks Google is convinced I love Dark Souls so here's what popped up on my news feed

> This Dark Souls 2 Animation Took So Long To Make It Came Out After Dark Souls 3

Unionhawk

→ 1 message moved to Android Hell

HamStare @Derpy

...

HamStare @fredley

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I'm at the weird point where I'll click videos I know are traps if I don't recognize the URL

Derpy

@Unionhawk not my precious troll :P

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Because I want to learn the URL for future reference

Unionhawk

12:24

STARE GENERATOR, WORK

Wipqozn

TIL this exists: developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed

Unionhawk

inb4 you use it to see how bad your website actually is?

Derpy

@Unionhawk at least give @Wipqozn the time to fall for it next time ;_;

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@Wipqozn This is neat. Afraid to run my webapp through it though

Unionhawk

That was a roller coaster of emotions I do not wish upon any person

Including or especially @Wipqozn

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12:26

Especially since I don't technically work on it anymore

Unionhawk

Let me try one more thing...

PaperStare @Derpy

nope

RIP

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Nothing quite like trying to compare two files with thousands of lines of differences! Yay Monday morning!

Derpy

@twobugs It could be worse: you could be like me, trying to make sense of .net AssemblyResolve event

Nate Kerkhofs

I got a struts.xml config file in my work project that isn't quite aligned with what auto indentation things is right. Result? I can never auto indent my changes because they would cause an insane whitespace-only change set

like, every single line changed without any meaningful changes

fredley

@Unionhawk HamStare was disabled several centuries ago

Unionhawk

12:34

@fredley the idea was you would manually stare at me for trying to use it

It obviously didn't work

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Man. It's depressing that the Philippines elected Donald Trump before the US did. So much for American Excellence :(

Unionhawk

Hmm. This event is not hitting things in the order I'd like. RIP.

Oh, but that's probably a way better way to do what I want

maybe

I think

NullReferenceException disagrees

Derpy

@Unionhawk the only one allowed to use the Stare is @PrivatePansy :P . Unless you happen to be a pastel color bear, which could work too...

Unionhawk

@twobugs Did you hear that the man took Budwiser being really dumb as an endorsement, since they recognize how great he will make the country or some nonsense like that?

Sterno

@Wipqozn My daughter threw up in the middle of the night so I am home today. TAKE THAT

Unionhawk

12:46

Also I'd really like to see AB try to trademark "America"

fredley

> Rodrigo Duterte, Philippines' president-elect, has pledged to introduce executions by hanging and to order military snipers to kill suspected criminals as part of a law-and-order crackdown.

In his first press conference since winning the May 9 elections, the mayor of southern Davao city said late on Sunday that security forces would be given "shoot-to-kill" orders and that citizens would learn to fear the law.

okaaaaaay....

Unionhawk

Oh so he's a literal literal fascist and we've actually been using literally wrong with respect to Mr. Trump a little bit

Sterno

@Wipqozn It grew on me, but mostly because I like hunting secrets. I'm still not a fan of how much it encourages melee and the combat feels a little console-y

fredley

> He said he preferred death by hanging to a firing squad because he did not want to waste bullets

Wipqozn

@Sterno Jerk

@Sterno That's legit.

fredley

12:49

Meanwhile, in Cambodia, in 1975

> The Khmer Rouge wouldn’t even waste a single bullet, the friendlier alternative, for the Angka wouldn’t waste their money on ammunition.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: 360 controller sticking in 3rd person view

I'm playing skyrim, I put it in first person view and as soon as I start walking around it jumps back to 3rd person I've tried s1st,tfc,epc in console commands but nothing is working I want to play in 1st person view what do i do?

pc

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@Unionhawk Trump is more at the proto-fascism stage

Sterno

I'm currently on the level where you climb a giant reactor thing. There are two secrets I can't find :(

Unionhawk

That implies that he's evolving

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But he's definitely got his heart set on fascism and I know people who are supporting him for fascist reasons

Unionhawk

12:50

I don't think anti intellectualists can evolve

Nate Kerkhofs

@Sterno Please no spoilerino, I want to buy the game when it's cheaper

Wipqozn

@Sterno The next level is a huge jump in difficulty. Also I've only got 100% on the first level so far.

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Spoilers for DOOM: There are demons

Nate Kerkhofs

I'm interested in DOOM myself, but I rarely pay full price for a game

Unionhawk

Hopefully I'm wrong though

Sterno

12:51

Yeah, I'm not sure that constitutes much of a spoiler, or that there even is much to spoil, but I'll watch out

Unionhawk

Spoilers for DOOM: $100 for game + season pass

Nate Kerkhofs

Which means either preordering (which I only do for games that I've seen actual ingame non-promotional footage of (as in beta or early console releases) or waiting a few months for the game to be cheaper in promotions

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@Unionhawk So it's cheaper than FO4?

Unionhawk

Maybe

Nate Kerkhofs

@Unionhawk Does the Season Pass actually add extra content in Singleplayer? I don't care about multiplayer

Sterno

12:52

@Wipqozn I also started playing Ultimate Doom but was sad when I couldn't find all the secrets on level 2

Unionhawk

Also, speaking of companies like FROM SOFTWARE that get away with games being broken at launch, Bethesda.

Sterno

It's amazing how many of those came back to me, given that I haven't played it in probably 20 years

Unionhawk

cc @twobugs

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@NateKerkhofs I would be on it, but there's probably an official listing

Last few iD games have had single player expansions

Sterno

Just saw @ChromeSlice's Long Dark 50% off thing. Always disturbs me when a game in EA is 50% off

two bugs

12:54

@Unionhawk Bandai Namco too!

Nate Kerkhofs

@twobugs store.steampowered.com/app/458020

Purely multiplayer Season pass

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Wait I mean uh... Crapco Shumdai or something cc @badp

@NateKerkhofs Huh, that's weird

Unionhawk

@twobugs Whatever, the developers of Dark Souls and the developers of Fallout/TES

Sterno

@Wipqozn Would you say you've only got 100% on one level because you're a coward, or is it because you're incompetent?

Wipqozn

@Sterno How well have those games aged?

Sterno

12:55

@Wipqozn Not great

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Technically Bandai just publishes Souls

Unionhawk

Yes

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They develop their own steaming broken piles

KutuluMike

goddamnit.

Wipqozn

@Sterno It's the only level I replayed to get all the secrets. I'm going to complete the game, then go back./

KutuluMike

12:55

where's the hip new place to buy PCs these days?

Wipqozn

I also might just jump into a Nightmre run and regret everything

@Sterno Figured

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@Wipqozn I think they've aged decently, but the difference in level quality is really noticeable now

Some levels are great and fast and furious and others are awful

2 has more bad levels but the super shotgun offsets it

Sterno

The gameplay is fine. The graphics aren't even a dealbreaker for me. It's the fact that they were made in an age when you didn't use a mouse for shooters

StrixVaria

@KutuluMike @Sterno and I both used ibuypower.com

Sterno

You never aim up or down

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12:58

@KutuluMike PCPartPicker unless you're old

Wipqozn

@Sterno That's the thing that I think would drive me crazy

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See I get over that whenever I play old DOOM really quickly. It doesn't bother me

Sterno

I really don't know how I was actually good at shooters back in the day when I used arrow keys to move and control to shoot

KutuluMike

@twobugs suppose I were old.

Unionhawk

I actually can't imagine doing that

Wipqozn

12:58

@KutuluMike ibuypower.com if you don't want to build it yourself (including speccing it out), and PCPartPicker if you do.

KutuluMike

last fullly-build PC I bought was from Dell.

Sterno

cyberpowerpc.com is also basically ibuypower.com, but might have slightly different deals

I'm 90% convinced they're actually the same company

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@Unionhawk It's like riding a bike

KutuluMike

I've been buying parts from newegg or amazon but I've replaced every single part in this PC and it's still shutting down on me for no reason.

Unionhawk

@twobugs I've never ridden this particular bike

Sterno

12:59

They have addresses to different suites in the same building, have almost the exact same prices, same promo codes, and same website design.

Wipqozn

That reminds me, I've been thinking of buying a new graphics card

Nate Kerkhofs

@KutuluMike Have you replaced your PSU and power cable?

KutuluMike

yes.

psu, power cable, motherboard, cpu, video card, memory, and HDD

Nate Kerkhofs

Have you replaced the cables INSIDE your PC?

KutuluMike

it just powers down when under moderate load and won't power back on for ~10 minutes.

but other times I can run it all-out for days with no problem.

Nate Kerkhofs

13:01

Maybe it's overheating?

Sterno

I think when I looked at ibuypower.com and compared it to buying the parts myself, it was a 15% markup roughly

Nate Kerkhofs

Only other thing I can think of is that your house electrical wiring is bugged

KutuluMike

I thought so, so I bought a souped-up CPU cooler and have been running HWMonitor, it doesn't seem to be getting that hot

@NateKerkhofs I could believe that except I have to wait for it to boot back up.

what is an appropriate temperature for an AMD FX-8350?

it says 53C

Nate Kerkhofs

next time it happens, try pulling the plug and hooking up another device, like a desk lamp, to see if it's not due to the electrical wiring

AFAIK, temperatures up to 70°C are fine

KutuluMike

well it's all plugged in to a surge protector strip and the other things on it still work

monitor, sound card, PC, and phone charging cable, and PC is the only thing that powers off

I'm getting to the point where I buy a pre-built PC just so I have someone to yell at when it does this.

it's been doing this for years.

MBraedley

13:05

Hmm, probably should have worn a rain jacket today instead

Unionhawk

Probably!

Nate Kerkhofs

Have you tried replacing the case? Maybe something is shorting

badp

@twobugs Tanngo Danzai

fredley

@MBraedley Yeah, it's definitely quite jacket today

KutuluMike

new case, too, bigger one with better circulation

Unionhawk

13:06

We had a frost advisory on the frost date

Global warming isn't real amirite guize

badp

It was 26°C on Friday, 12°C on Saturday

Unionhawk

It's currently 4 C

In May

in the northern hemisphere

Nate Kerkhofs

Meanwhile, April was the hottest April on record

Unionhawk

hooray more interns are arriving

Oh, some PMO interns I think maybe?

badp

Pinkstermaandag slightly warmer than coldest Pentecost in 80 years
http://www.nltimes.nl/2016/05/16/pinkstermaandag-slightly-warmer-than-coldest-pentecost-in-80-years/

Unionhawk

13:08

So... coldest Pentecost in 79 years?

badp

(That would be the day after Pentecost)

MBraedley

Although this rain is super localized, so it'll probably pass soon.

badp

Today is not a Pentecost so technically no

Unionhawk

Hmm, right

@MBraedley VTC rain as too localized

Srs though, it's May, can it be like 86/30 pls

(F/C)

No? Cool

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We had light snows yesterday. That was absurd

Nate Kerkhofs

13:12

30°C in May? Really? I'd prefer to safe that for August

MBraedley

@Unionhawk No, that's too warm for May. July? That'd be acceptable, but for May I want low to mid 20s

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk I'd be happy if it never got higher than mid-70s.

80 degrees is uncomfortably hot.

Nate Kerkhofs

Maybe @ardaozkal can handle 86°F in Turkey, but not here in Western Europe

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80s aren't that bad if the humidity is low to moderate

Tim Stone

Uh oh: Assassin's Creed movie will feature more modern settings than the past http://dlvr.it/LKQNd1 https://t.co/FqpsCztm5u

Tweeted by Dtoid on May 16, 2016 at 1:13 PM

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ;_;

StrixVaria

13:14

@twobugs I was just thinking that. New Jersey is always very humid.

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High humidity makes even 70s horribly uncomfortable

I've heard from my California friends that 90s with low humidity isn't that bad if you're in the shade

Nate Kerkhofs

@TimStone They really don't get it, do they... AC is so good because of the historical setting, not because of the memory reading

StrixVaria

Average monthly humidities for NJ aka way too high

Nate Kerkhofs

If I wanted to watch a movie about an ancient conspiracy set in modern times, I'd watch the Bourne trilogy

I'll probably wait for it to get on Netflix

StrixVaria

I may not even know what low humidity is like, I'm realizing.

Tim Stone

13:24

New Jersey: Not Even Once™

2

StrixVaria

@TimStone Delaware was just as bad, when I visited it.

ardaozkal

@NateKerkhofs 77 Fahrenheit here. Not that hot considering we see waaay more.

StrixVaria

@ardaozkal How humid is it there?

ardaozkal

Dammit my dht server is offline atm. Humidity nearly never goes below %20 though.

Accuweather: %30

We see ~100 fahrenheit and ~%60 humidity on July.

So yeah, jersey is a dream for us.

Tim Stone

@StrixVaria Delaware is always pleasant and tax free

StrixVaria

13:35

@TimStone There are pros and cons. The cost of living is lower, the taxes are lower, but there's nothing there.

ardaozkal

Tax-free you said? Hmm I wonder if there are planes from Istanbul to Delaware. Don't want to deal with NY

Unionhawk

@StrixVaria Fine, 77

Tim Stone

@StrixVaria Woah, woah, woah. I'm here.

StrixVaria

@ardaozkal Probably not, but you may get one to Newark, NJ, which is only a 3-ish hour drive to Delaware!

Actually maybe only 2.

Tim Stone

You can take the train from the airport, too

StrixVaria

13:36

@TimStone What's the closest international airport to you?

ardaozkal

There is an airport!= Turkish Airlines flies there unfortunately

They mostly go to WA and NY

Tim Stone

@StrixVaria PHL

...I think

StrixVaria

@TimStone Makes sense.

Tim Stone

Yeah, I'm pretty sure PHL is closer even as the crow flies

BWI is second but because of the Chesapeake Bay getting in the way it's a noticably longer drive

ardaozkal

I can't imagine summer

Unionhawk

13:39

You mean your car isn't a boat?

Tim Stone

Alas, no

One summer it was so hot that the pavement on 95 buckled on the way to the airport

ardaozkal

Like on may, it is 77f already. I can survive 100f on %60, but both this and that are torture.

Tim Stone

But the people coming to pick me up were a week early anyway so

ardaozkal

@Unionhawk that reminded me of a gta lcs cheat.

CIRCLE, X, DOWN, CIRCLE, X, UP, L1, L1

Wipqozn

oh hey, overwtch is next week

time sure does fly

Tim Stone

13:43

If you finish my work for me I'll buy it

ardaozkal

@Wipqozn you know what else flies?

Mercy

And your mom

Unionhawk

She really glides more than anything

Ronan

@Unionhawk It's falling with style.

ardaozkal

@Unionhawk both glide and the shift thing

Unionhawk

Her mobility is not the greatest

It's pretty all right but not the greatest

ardaozkal

13:44

Tracer best

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Pharah? or Mercy?

StrixVaria

Mercy's mobility relies on someone else being where she wants to be, or someone else being high up and having time to float around.

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My complaint with Mercy is how dependent on teammates she is for mobility

ardaozkal

Unignore me already bugs

StrixVaria

@ardaozkal Stop.

If he feels like it he will; if he doesn't, that's up to him.

ardaozkal

13:45

He can't see anyways

StrixVaria

So don't waste everyone else's time then.

Unionhawk

Protip: if a mod sends a message with contents just ":numbers Stop.", you should probably do that thing

ardaozkal

Ok

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I'm just going to slowly back away now

ardaozkal

Also why doesn't mobile client display mod or RO colors/italic?

Yuuki

13:47

@twobugs She's rather dependent on teammates for a lot of things.

Unionhawk

@ardaozkal Iunno

It just doesn't and I was too lazy to raise that as a bug/feature request

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@Yuuki True, but I meant in comparison to Lucio who has amazing mobility on his own

He just feels a lot more satisfying for me to play in most situations

ardaozkal

M.se is way too aggressive so I won't post it

Unionhawk

Mercy has a more powerful heal and ult imo though

ardaozkal

Lucia is fun but it requires aim

Which I such at

Frigging keyboard correct.

Unionhawk

13:49

More powerful heal objectively for people like me who main Medic and are good at switching between teammates when you hear the "healed" sound

ardaozkal

I play mercy mainly, it is fun, and her pistol isn't the worst. I had kill play of the games on it.

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Mercy has more powerful single target and the damage boost is incredible

Unionhawk

Her being good at damage boost is dependent on there being a pharah or 76 or something

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I just prefer Lucio's style more, I'm sure as I play Mercy more I would get a better handle on her playstyle

Unionhawk

McCree isn't awful to damage boost, Bastion is cancer to damage boost, and there isn't a whole lot of other good options

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13:51

Junkrat seems like a decent choice

ardaozkal

I never actually used the damage boost properly though, most chars are so fragile that they need health boost more when there are enemies around

Unionhawk

@twobugs That's true

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Since he can lob out bombs while staying back

And he has good mobility

ardaozkal

Bastion + that tank with armor is mostly when I used damage boost

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Roadhog could work too, since he has good self-healing so he isn't as dependent on you

ardaozkal

13:52

Roadhog is hard to play though

Unionhawk

Roadhog is such a good ult battery though so it's more advantageous to heal him as long as you don't have ult

When you get it though you can be more aggressive with the boosts

Pharah is fun to boost since you can just constantly shift to her

And people aren't good at shooting up

ardaozkal

What maps are the best?

I like the Egypt and East themed ones

StrixVaria

Roadhog apparently is not used at competitive levels.

Unionhawk

@ardaozkal I enjoy Anubis a lot, Illios is also a ton of fun

StrixVaria

He's an ult battery for the other team too.

Unionhawk

13:54

@StrixVaria Yes

StrixVaria

Nepal is my favorite KotH map by a wide margin.

ardaozkal

Illinois is great with snipers

Yuuki

If you know Roadhog's range, he becomes a lot less dangerous.

ardaozkal

And that bow guy's ulti

Unionhawk

But, he pulls people out of position, and at a low level, it's easy to find people out of position to one shot

When team coordination is more of a thing, he falls off

StrixVaria

13:55

I really don't like the point on Ilios that's in a pit, with ramps down from either side.

Unionhawk

He's less of a tank and more of a dude that one shots guys who are alone

ardaozkal

I don't like Illinois' map design that much too

StrixVaria

@ardaozkal Please keep calling it that forever.

Yuuki

Yeah, Chicago's a shithole.

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Roadhog is definitely a pubstomper, but I think he's not bad in more coordinated settings

Unionhawk

13:56

He's really fun to play though once you have the hook down

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk I like playing as every tank.

ardaozkal

@StrixVaria my gnomephone fixed it to be more real

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He's still a powerful beefy character who can easily pick people off

StrixVaria

Which isn't true for the other classes.

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The cooldown on his hook is so low, too

Unionhawk

13:57

@StrixVaria Winston is a little whatever but yeah

ardaozkal

Wins has such a short range

Unionhawk

I want to enjoy all of the supports but Zenyatta is a bit :|

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk He's situational. I really like him when the other team has back-line squishies though.

Unionhawk

He can pump out damage though

But he also has 150

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk I think Zenyatta needs like 25 more health.

Just so he doesn't die to a Widowmaker bodyshot instantly.

ardaozkal

13:57

Wins is GREAT when there is a mercy on team

StrixVaria

My favorite thing to do with Winston is wreck Widowmakers.

Unionhawk

@StrixVaria Incidentally, Winston is pretty good at shutting down a widow

Drop shield, suddenly she has no targets

StrixVaria

I really hate Widowmaker in general, though, so anything that ruins a Widowmaker's day is the best.

ardaozkal

Widow is fun too

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Winston just feels like the most boring to me

ardaozkal

13:59

I like how you can't quickshot

StrixVaria

She's fun to use, but getting sniped is not fun gameplay.

Unionhawk

His shield is a bubble, but it's also 400 health and a 12 second cooldown

StrixVaria

That's been a complaint of mine since the first FPS I played, though, so I've gotten over it.

ardaozkal

Cod kids can't hit me anything vital lol

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@StrixVaria Yeah, it can be frustrating

It's better than large scale things like Battlefield or Planetside 2 where everyone plays sniper, though

Unionhawk

13:59

@StrixVaria Kind of like how getting shot by rng is not fun gameplay cc @twobugs

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