The Bridge

Wipqozn

19:02

@Sterno I'm worried about that as well. I only spent $10 on it though.

@Sterno I've played for 2 hours, so when I pick it up again (next week?) I can stream.

Arperum

@Dragonrage You don't like that developers get money so they can continue living and making games?

Wipqozn

OH SNAP

@Arperum is laying down the hard truths

Unionhawk

all games should be free without microtransactions

Wipqozn

SMACK DOWN

Dragonrage

@Arperum i dont mind them making money, i just want to be able to have money

Unionhawk

19:04

MONEY IS A CONCEPT INVENTED BY AND FOR THE CHINESE

/trump

two bugs

Right, so just give Trump all your money so he can keep you out of trouble

Unionhawk

("climate change is a concept invented by and for the Chinese" is a Real Thing He Said I think)

Dragonrage

neither game i made, generated money for me, but at least i was paid to make them

two bugs

That... sounds like something he would say. Or Carson. Or any of them, really

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk Right, because it's China that's pushing for stricter emissions controls

Arperum

19:06

I've made two super crappy and super tiny games (no, there is no chance in hell you are ever going to play these). I know it is a ridiculous amount of work. And you need to live, so go give your money already to people who made your stuff. You don't expect your food to be free, nor do you expect everythting else to be free.

Pay for your fucking games.

7

Same goes for anything else you like.

ardaozkal

@Arperum Arperum for mod!

user15026

If you don't pay the people making the things you like, then they won't be able to keep making the things you like.

Unionhawk

Well, good news on the "pay for your fucking games" front, Just Cause 3 is still not cracked

Apparently they almost gave up

Arperum

I spend loads of money on music. I've literally spent >€300 on one single band this year.

user15026

@Unionhawk Is that what's prompting the whole "soon things will be uncrackable" articles I keep seeing about in the past couple of days?

Unionhawk

19:08

Mhmm

Arperum

@Unionhawk That's seriously impressive.

Unionhawk

Something along the lines of "pretty soon there will be no more free games" and it's like "Just Cause 3 is not a free game to begin with you fucks"

ardaozkal

@Arperum +1

user15026

@Unionhawk Yeah, that's it exactly.

Unionhawk

"it is not your divine right to have it for free"

two bugs

19:09

"Uh, I deserve all games for free because stupid reason" - Thing People Actually Say

ardaozkal

Best way to get it for free: Pay for it, or don't get it...

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk wait how is it not cracked?

Arperum

@twobugs "Get the fuck out." - Me

ardaozkal

-logic

Unionhawk

@GodEmperorDune Iunno, apparently the locking mechanism is super hard

Dragonrage

19:09

btw i wasnt meaning that i didnt want to pay for the game, i was meaning i dont have the extra money to buy it

Unionhawk

or whatever

ardaozkal

@GodEmperorDune they spent the half of the time blocking cracks.

Unionhawk

It's to the point that publishers are considering PC exclusive for this technology

two bugs

I really hate when people try to argue a game isn't "worth the price" so they can pirate it

Arperum

@Dragonrage Then go do something to get that money. $20 is not that hard.

Yuuki

19:10

@Unionhawk Deep in the source code, there's a picture of a kitty and a comment that reads "please don't crack this game or this kitty will starve".

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk pcmasterrace

ardaozkal

@Arperum Student here, live on the 2$/day line.

Arperum

@twobugs That's more like: I'm not willing to pay this much for it. Which is perfectly ok.

Dragonrage

@Arperum im trying to pay off a car and save up for buying items for my apartment, so it will be awhile before i buy any games most likely.

GodEmperorDune

but is this something where the fact that its uncrackable makes it a pain in the ass to use when activation servers or whatever go down?

Yuuki

19:12

> Bonfire Night is the most British of all the holidays. It's the day on which we celebrate somebody who failed to achieve something.

Unionhawk

@Arperum "wait for a steam sale. Then a winner will be you."

two bugs

@Arperum Right, but they'll go ahead and pirate it because they feel entitled to it

Arperum

@twobugs And this is wrong.

GodEmperorDune

@ardaozkal there are plenty of cheap indie games

or you can save up for a while and buy it when it hits a sale

ardaozkal

@GodEmperorDune yeah, ikno. Still, I'm low on money as I bought the new Tomb Raider.

Arperum

19:13

@Dragonrage Yea, you have to make a choice.

Unionhawk

Plus, if you're a chemistry student you could always go Heisenberg to get your games

user15026

@Unionhawk That's a little...extreme just for video games, no? :P

Unionhawk

*disclaimer: don't actually sell drugs for games

Sterno

@AshleyNunn The trick is to find something about the game, the company's business practices, some other game they made, or maybe even just where they went for lunch today that you can get mad about so that you can feel justified playing their game without paying them.

Arperum

@Unionhawk Yup, a sale is a choice of the dev to reduce the amount of money he asks, if you buy at such a moment, that's perfectly fine.

ardaozkal

19:14

@Unionhawk instead, just cook them, leave the distribution to others.

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk what does the uncertainty principle have to do with buying games?

ardaozkal

* disclaimer: don't cook drugs

Arperum

4 mins ago, by Arperum

@twobugs "Get the fuck out." - Me

djsmiley2k

urgh

I'm playing jellybelly roulette :/

two bugs

"Wow, one of the devs ate well done steak!"

Unionhawk

19:15

@Sterno "I don't agree with this company's ethics or something"

djsmiley2k

I have no clue what half of these flavours are :/

Unionhawk

@twobugs 100% justified

"I DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THAT MAN'S WELL DONE STEAK"

Sterno

@Arperum No, see, I'm doing them a favor by playing their game and telling people about it. Really, they should be paying me.

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs oh man those bay area fat cats!

Sterno

(actual argument I've seen)

Unionhawk

19:15

Incidentally, this is the mindset of "I don't want my tax dollars going to x"

Arperum

1 min ago, by Arperum

4 mins ago, by Arperum

@twobugs "Get the fuck out." - Me

@Sterno I know, I've seen it too.

Dragonrage

@twobugs why would you want well done steak?

two bugs

@Dragonrage thatsthejoke.png

Unionhawk

@Dragonrage If you're an awful human being

And also thatsthejoke.gifv

Sterno

My other favorite is "I don't have much money so I wouldn't buy it anyway. Hey, did you see these awesome new shoes I just bought for $600? And remind me next time I'm heading to the store to pick up another carton of smokes."

Arperum

19:16

@Dragonrage Some people just like the taste of burned flesh.

two bugs

It's ethically and morally wrong to eat well done steak.

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murgatroid99

I've pirated some stuff, primarily movies and TV shows, but generally only when I actually can't find a way to purchase it legitimately

ardaozkal

gfycat.com/GlassAmusingBeardedcollie

Unionhawk

@Sterno "I hate uPlay" is another classic

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk but seriously, fuck uplay

Unionhawk

19:17

"YOU ARE LITERALLY PART OF THE PROBLEM DUDE"

two bugs

I pirated KoToR2 when I couldn't find my discs back in the day. I bought it again as soon as it came up on Steam.

uPlay is dumb but I've never had a problem with it so whatever

Arperum

When I was younger, I pirated games quite a bit, now I just don't do so anymore, and most of the games I pirated and actually remember playing or anything I buy when I see them.

Sterno

@Unionhawk Ah, yes, the "They deserve to have their game pirated because they use DRM" argument

ardaozkal

@twobugs +1, it works awesome

Unionhawk

I wouldn't say awesome, but it does a thing

I haven't had problems

Sterno

19:18

If you want to purchase their game and then play a pirated, non-uPlay version, sure.

GodEmperorDune

if i buy assassins creed on steam, then steam launches uplay, then uplay doesn't know what the fuck to do, then i don't get to play assassins creed

Dragonrage

@GodEmperorDune i had that problem for awhile, not sure how it got fixed, but somehow it did

GodEmperorDune

i had to uninstall/reboot/reinstall uplay something like a dozen times to get the game to launch

Unionhawk

That reminds me, I should free up C disk space and/or combine my C and D partitions so I have room for games

Dragonrage

@Unionhawk do you not have room for another drive?

Unionhawk

19:19

(for some reason they partitioned my drive into a C and a D drive, even though it's one 1TB drive)

@Dragonrage No because laptop

nukeforum

@Sterno More like, I deserve to pirate their game so that I can play single player without having my game locked because their servers went down.

Don't get me wrong, I hate video game piracy

Dragonrage

@Unionhawk external hdd

Unionhawk

this is not a desirable solution

user15026

@nukeforum I don't think "deserve" is the right word.

nukeforum

but DRM that prevents me from playing single player games is a joke

Unionhawk

19:20

Especially since I literally have 500 GB internal open

two bugs

Prevents you from playing single player games in pretty rare circumstances

Which, by the way, Steam was guilty of for a while

nukeforum

@AshleyNunn I think I "deserve" to play the game I legally purchased, even when their server is down for 3 days

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs what will happen to diablo 3 singleplayer?

Unionhawk

@twobugs NO STEAM IS PERFECT YOU TAKE THAT BACK

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs but steam is much better about that now

Unionhawk

19:21

I HATE DRM AND I LOVE STEAM - people

two bugs

See nobody even played Diablo 2 offline so I don't know why people were demanding a Diablo 3 offline mode

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk steam is DRM but provides a decent value add to counterbalance the pain in the ass of drm

two bugs

I mean it would be nice to have but it would end up like Torchlight 2 where the game has no community because everyone is running 198317629213 different mods and hacking or cheating

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs i did

Arperum

@twobugs Uhm.... That's so extremely wrong.

nukeforum

19:22

@twobugs Yeah, I basically only played d2 offline

Arperum

There were some super awesome modded communities. I also played a lot of singleplayer.

two bugs

Really? I've never encountered a person who played Diablo 2 offline. It defeated so much of the purpose

SaintWacko

@twobugs I did!

two bugs

Oh, modded? I see. That's not what I meant, but that's a good point

Arperum

See, you're the only person that didn't.

SaintWacko

19:23

@Arperum Eastern Sun!

nukeforum

@twobugs I played on local network when I wanted to play multi

Arperum

@SaintWacko Nezeramontias!

Unionhawk

Quick @twobugs, you can easily turn this around by implying that @Arperum, @nukeforum, @GodEmperorDune, and @SaintWacko are nobody

SaintWacko

@Arperum Bless you!

Unionhawk

Or not

Your choice

two bugs

19:24

I'm not trying to turn anything around because we are all friends here

Unionhawk

Fine, I'll leave that joke on the floor then

nukeforum

:3

two bugs

There is no need for me to own them because they already know I am extremely good at video games

But thank you @Unionhawk

Arperum

@SaintWacko Did you ever play that mod? It was awesome.

two bugs

I should hire you as a writer

Unionhawk

19:24

MOTION TO TABLE JOKE UNTIL NEXT CONVENIENT OPPORTUNITY

SaintWacko

@Arperum Nope, I only ever played Eastern Sun

@Unionhawk Seconded!

All in favor?

nukeforum

aye

SaintWacko

All opposed?

Unionhawk

Seeing no opposition, motion passes by unanimous consent

Arperum

@SaintWacko You had monster souls, that you could wear in your ringslot, that gave you a bonus or skill based on the monster, for example you could turn into a fallen and use the fallen taunt. Or there was also some overly complex and crazy way to get to play as any of the act bosses.

GodEmperorDune

19:26

@Unionhawk motion to table urmom

SaintWacko

The apathetics have it

motion mehs

nukeforum

@GodEmperorDune T-rekt

Sterno

8 mins ago, by Sterno

If you want to purchase their game and then play a pirated, non-uPlay version, sure.

two bugs

Regardless, I don't think always online is necessarily evil. I do agree that an offline option should be offered

I've played several games on uPlay and never had a problem with their servers. I've had more trouble with Steam, honestly.

nukeforum

@Sterno I can't read, sorry

Arperum

19:27

Or a dungeon in act two that was all about getting through without getting horribly murdered, but you couldn't damage anything. So a massive defense test, with at the end two bosses (that you could kill) and crazy loot.

GodEmperorDune

@twobugs they could do like original starcraft and release a patch removing the DRM way later

Unionhawk

@twobugs WOW YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT ALWAYS ONLINE IS EVIL WELL LET ME INFORM YOU HOW EVIL IT IS. WHAT IF YOU DON'T HAVE INTERNET. HUH?

ardaozkal

@twobugs +1

Unionhawk

WHAT IF I DON'T HAVE INTERNET RIGHT NOW

WHAT THEN

Sterno

I think always online is fine as long as it is clearly advertised. People can simply choose not to buy it, rather than get offended that their human rights are being violated by not having an offline option.

ardaozkal

19:28

@Unionhawk then you should buy internet.

Unionhawk

okay I'm probably done

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno cc @Frank

Arperum

@Unionhawk YOU DO, YOU ARE USING IT RIGHT NOW.

two bugs

I mean, yeah, you can go full stupid with always online like Microsoft did with the Xbox One pre-release stuff

user15026

@Unionhawk then who was phone

nukeforum

19:28

@twobugs I've had the opposite experience

two bugs

"Oh, you don't have consistent online? Buy an Xbox 360!"

Sterno

Remember the good old days when D3 was all about buying gear from the auction house? Good times!

James

@Unionhawk So.. Uh... Why do you buy internet? I mean if you want to use it you have to be online?

Seems kind of like a double standard...

GodEmperorDune

@Sterno yeah i played back then

nukeforum

Serious question: Should internet be a human right?

two bugs

19:30

@Sterno I remember people making $$$$ by selling good gear online

Unionhawk

@James Hold on: are you saying that the Internet is an always-online product?

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James

@nukeforum Wasnt it already declared as such by one of those 'tries to be a world government' organizations? :)

Ohnana

@nukeforum i'd lean towards yes, but there are other rights that are much more important

MadMAxJr

D3 auction house was gain level, go buy the relics for that level.

nukeforum

@James Link? :P

James

19:30

@Unionhawk Yeah.. If you cant get online you cant use the Internet.. So it requires you to be always online

Unionhawk

I think you just blew my mind.

user15026

@James I was gonna say, I think the UN tried to declare it as such

MadMAxJr

And buying gems by the sack.

two bugs

@James Wow, I hate this "internet" thing

nukeforum

@Ohnana I don't mean compared to other rights, I just mean, is it a right that humans should have?

user15026

19:31

@nukeforum wired.com/2011/06/internet-a-human-right

Unionhawk

@nukeforum HE COME TO TOWN

two bugs

I guess I don't really think internet is a human right more than electricity is a human right. And I'm not sure how I fall on that one either

user15026

@James I will if you spell my name right

Arperum

@James Is it friday?

user15026

@Unionhawk >.>

Sterno

19:31

@twobugs That's how @fbueckert bought the expansion.

Unionhawk

@Sterno true story

user15026

@James your link isn't better, it's passive aggressive.

Ohnana

@nukeforum i don't see any reason it wouldn't be

nukeforum

@James Me = rekt

James

@AshleyNunn Be kind to those of us with lysdexia :P

Lazers 2.0

19:32

0

Q: Hearthstone Pack Opening Interuption

So I was opening a classic pack in Hearthstone. I dragged the pack to the center of the screen to bust it open I got invited to Brawl a friend I accepted the invitation without clicking on any of the cards After the Brawl I went back to click on my cards, but they were gone When I checked my co...

hearthstone

ardaozkal

First time filling my star limit

Unionhawk

@AshleyNunn Is this what I think it is

Ohnana

@Unionhawk yes

user15026

@James I'm sorry, but I prefer my name, which is right there on the screen, to be spelled right.

Sterno

If you hit the star limit, you're starring wrong.

7

two bugs

19:32

@Unionhawk kangaroos fear vista

user15026

@Unionhawk LMGTFY

Unionhawk

→ 2 messages moved to Android Hell

James

@AshleyNunn Dooley noted..

Next time I typo it completely on purpose Ill be sure to feel bad about it :P

Sterno

Why did that get moved to android hell?

two bugs

Help, I'm being excluded from the mob abuse!

nukeforum

19:33

@twobugs I was just curious how people felt about it. It's an interesting topic that doesn't come up much

ardaozkal

Ubi just updated their terms

Unionhawk

@Sterno Because LMGTFY is literally worse than Friday

user15026

@James I...what

user15026

Why would you even

Sterno

This is why we can't have nice things.

Unionhawk

19:34

Indeed

Sterno

Well, this and @Wipqozn

MadMAxJr

7AM let me google that for you in the morning, gotta go down stairs, gotta click first link

Unionhawk

@Sterno Who I murdered for you you're welcome

two bugs

@Sterno Hold on, let me ask google why we can't have nice things...

nukeforum

@Unionhawk totally legit link

two bugs

19:35

TOTALLY LEGIT LINK HE COME TO TOWN

user15026

@nukeforum I think by now we all know the URL well enough not to click blind

two bugs

HE TAUGHT KANGAROOS, TO FEAR VISTA

nukeforum

@AshleyNunn I figured :) That's why I didn't try to be clever

ardaozkal

@AshleyNunn just hovered over it, and I knew it was thursday.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn speak for yourself

Unionhawk

19:36

@fredley I would like you to know that kangaroos fear vista is literally the stupidest thing

user15026

@twobugs Now that song is NEVER gonna leave my head

Ronan Forman

@AshleyNunn Even I know, and I can close tabs fast enough not to worry about it.

GodEmperorDune

@Unionhawk INTERIOR CROCODILE ALLIGATOR

ardaozkal

@nukeforum Even more legit link

MadMAxJr

Okay I'm not sure I like that MIT license attribution thing starred over there.

StrixVaria

19:36

@GodEmperorDune I DRIVE A CHEVROLET MOVIE THEATER

nukeforum

@ardaozkal risky click

Sterno

Proper LMGTFY usage

murgatroid99

I keep my sound off at work, so Friday links never bother me here

StrixVaria

I was so sad last time I brought up interior crocodile alligator here that nobody knew it.

MadMAxJr

And seeing as how it has a downvote party on it, I guess they're communicating that it's bad and stackexchange should feel bad.

GodEmperorDune

19:37

@StrixVaria what

its great

nukeforum

@StrixVaria I know it!!!

user15026

@StrixVaria I looked it up last time

Sterno

I wonder if LMGTFY sets off @fredley's Friday detector

StrixVaria

I didn't want @GodEmperorDune to go through what I went through so I had to give the response.

Sterno

I guess it doesn't launch the video, so no

GodEmperorDune

19:37

@StrixVaria @uni knows it and is usually trolled by it

fredley

@Unionhawk It's a helpful mnemonic

James

@Sterno Search results inconclusive :D

ardaozkal

LMGFTY is never gonna let you go

two bugs

@Unionhawk There are, without a doubt, stupider things

Unionhawk

No

MadMAxJr

19:38

Like stapler fights.

ardaozkal

live.lmgtfy.com -> see what people are searching

nukeforum

@MadMAxJr That sounds awful...

James

Completely Safe Link that is not LMGTFY or Friday.

Unionhawk

can confirm

nukeforum

@James Just when I thought I would never see that one again

murgatroid99

19:40

@James That song actually came up in the AGDQ Stepmania run

Unionhawk

That's another run I need to watch

That was apparently nuts

MBraedley

Oh where, oh where could this document be? Oh where oh where could it be?

James

@murgatroid99 Haha, Nice.. I only ended up watching Metroid and FF IV of this years AGDQ

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Does the Difficulty affect mob equipment?

Does the difficulty level affect mob equimpent? For example, if I select the Hard difficulty, will more of the zombies and skeletons wear armour, than those on Easy? (Or if I spend lots of time on a chunk, to increase local difficulty?)

minecraft

Unionhawk

@James I recommend at least the TAS block and the Mario Maker block

If you watch no other archives

user15026

19:41

@Unionhawk Aww, crap, that's the thing I was going to do last night and forgot.

Unionhawk

the TAS block this year was fantastic, and the Mario Maker block was also fantastic

James

@Unionhawk TAS?

Texenox

i'm doing it, lads

Unionhawk

@James Tool Assisted Speedrun

Texenox

i'm learning C++

James

19:42

Ah

MadMAxJr

Thankfully, nobody has produced Friday in Mario Maker.

murgatroid99

@Unionhawk The guy was playing at about 20 beats per second at some points

James

When I find some time I shall try and take a peek

Ive not been able to play a game since Monday :/

GodEmperorDune

@Texenox grats?

user15026

@murgatroid99 O.o that sounds mad crazy

Texenox

19:44

@GodEmperorDune ...uh.

GodEmperorDune

dammit rick prime beat me

wubba lubba dub dub

user15026

Rick and Morty is one show I really don't get as a thing.

user15026

I tried, but it's just not my jam.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn :(

Frank

@Sterno Since @GodEmperorDune seems to be wanting to stir up trouble, I agree. As long as a game is clearly advertised as always online, players can choose to play, or not, as they please.

StrixVaria

19:46

@murgatroid99 I installed Stepmania again since seeing that and was reminded that I'm pretty bad at Stepmania.

@Unionhawk Except for that one homebrew game thing.

Skip that part of the TAS block.

I recommend the Pokemon Blue glitch exhibition, personally.

Unionhawk

glitch exhibitions are always cool

I like ZFG's standard OoT glitch exhibition

StrixVaria

He actually did all different glitches this time from the last time I saw him do a glitch exhibition, which was nice.

Unionhawk

Oh snap

Yeah, I know 2014 and 2015 were the same I think

StrixVaria

He didn't do that archery one on horseback in the desert, for example.

Unionhawk

At least, one of the ones was the same, but it's a particularly funny glitch

StrixVaria

19:48

Was that the chest in the forest temple?

I feel like I'd seen that one before.

Unionhawk

No, the spooky mask from the archery game or whatever

StrixVaria

The best part of that run was when he said, "this looks hard, but with some simple movements it's actually pretty easy"

As he's backflipping and sidehopping around a void.

Sterno

@fbueckert agreed. Hell just got colder.

GodEmperorDune

@Frank argh, foiled again

Unionhawk

@StrixVaria Backflips and sidehops are always deterministic in OoT, which is why they're used in setups

StrixVaria

19:50

@Unionhawk I know that, but it was still funny given the apparent complexity to a new watcher.

Unionhawk

Heh

StrixVaria

Watching the blindfolded all child dungeons run some previous GDQ event was insane.

A run full of simple movements.

Unionhawk

This has to be my favorite OoT video of always:

WELCOME TO OCARINA OF TIME

►

Sterno

This review of Darkest Dungeon is top notch

> I had loads of fun in this game. Probably because I'm not a crybaby loser like you.

SHOTS FIRED

MadMAxJr

Well yes, Highwayman fired shots but they missed.

Texenox

19:54

@Sterno ♥♥♥♥ing ♥♥♥♥-♥♥♥♥-♥♥♥♥♥♥er ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥!

ardaozkal

I'm considering to make a D3 24-hr run on twitch tomorrow.

Unionhawk

@StrixVaria TASBot vs humans?

ardaozkal

♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥?

Welcome to guess the letters!

(tip: the words aren't profanity)

Texenox

@ardaozkal no

ardaozkal

Nice two letters!

♥♥nn♥ ♥♥♥♥ ♥o♥n♥♥♥ ♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥o♥♥♥ o♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ ♥♥♥o♥♥o♥?

user15026

19:59

.......can we not?

StrixVaria

@Unionhawk Yeah, that was dumb.

Texenox

@AshleyNunn This.

There is such a thing as a limit.

Sterno

@AshleyNunn is not a Wheel of Fortune fan.

Frank

I'm going to flag the next one of those.

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