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TomWij

00:17

@GraceNote: Last word should be scrapped, but nice anyhow... :-)

FallenAngelEyes

00:40

How are "hot" questions determined?

LessPop_MoreFizz

:3096 Views I think.

FallenAngelEyes

How's it determine the order in which it lists them then? I can't figure out it.

It's not descending order of views, votes, or most recent answer/edit

Grace Note

Gimme a moment~

FallenAngelEyes

or # of answers

Okies

Grace Note

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Q: What Formula Should Be Used To Determine "hot" Questions?

Right now the front page Popular tab is fairly broken -- it's a simple descending sort by views. As Joel said in podcast #18, it is "a self-fulfilling prophecy." But this is not intentional, it's only because we haven't had time to improve it yet! As I sit down to write a better algorithm, I tho...

`(log(Qviews)*4) + ((Qanswers * Qscore)/5) + sum(Ascores)
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((Qage+1) - ((Qage - Qupdated)/2)) ^ 1.5`

FallenAngelEyes

00:45

@Grace Thanks much!

Grace Note

No problem ♪

FallenAngelEyes

So does it list the result of that algorithm in descending order then?

Grace Note

Correct

FallenAngelEyes

Gotcha.

I want to start a new Civ game but it's 3am already and I should sleep and I know if I start now, I'll get stuck in "just one more turn" hell...

FallenAngelEyes

01:11

Does anyone else see "1" for the number of featured questions, but have no actual question in the tab?

LessPop_MoreFizz

I see:

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Q: What does the StarCraft 2 client download when entering the league queue?

When I go to join a multiplayer game in StarCraft 2, sometimes the game client says it is downloading a few items before it enters the queue. This notice appears at the top center of the screen, and is soon replaced by the the "looking for players" message and then the "players found" message. W...

starcraft-2 multiplayer download

is that an ignored tag question?

FallenAngelEyes

Oh hey, yeah, that'd be it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

01:43

getlamp.com

FallenAngelEyes

I have the Robot Unicorn Attack song stuck in my head

LessPop_MoreFizz

:3117 You say this like having Erasure stuck in your head is a bad thing.

Admittedly, there are visual images of Erasure that there is not enough mental bleach in the world to remove from my mind sadly.

FallenAngelEyes

I just watched the official vid for Always actually

I'm not sure if it's more or less wtf than the game itself

Grace Note

02:02

Always? As in, from Yogurting?

LessPop_MoreFizz

:3123 No, as in the song by Erasure.

Grace Note

Oh. Fooey.

FallenAngelEyes

02:17

G'night all

Grace Note

G'nite, @Fall

badp

07:58

badp

10:45

re: twitter.com/jonskeet/status/25421519087

can you imagine him starting roaming Gaming.SE for Civ5 questions to answer on his commute back home? :D

badp

13:04

'noon @Grace

Grace Note

Aftoon, @badp

Mechko

15:16

what's this new inbox I have for stackexchange?

badp

All notifications from all SE sites

Although they don't quite seem to be chronologically ordered.

Also, edits and deletions do not reflect in there.

Mechko

ah. well it tells me I have 1 new notification, but it doesn't go away

I keep getting excited because I think someone loves me, but then it turns out to be the same thing over and over again. :(

badp

15:52

:3147 It's a problem with the sort order.

Macha

16:11

I remember now why I stopped playing FF XIII

badp

not enough cowbell?

Macha

Huh? No. Because all the non-boss battles are horribly tedious.

/me now googles that reference

LessPop_MoreFizz

:3153 funnyordie.com/videos/80a71ef8cb/more-cowbell

that's the reference

badp

and that explains another futurama reference

Macha

@LessPop_MoreFizz Found a wiki page.

My normal twitter account, with ~70 followers, 2k tweets, and over a year age doesn't have #newtwitter, my 4 month old @MorboDestroys joke account, with 30 followers and 50 tweets has it.

Grace Note

16:23

Good morning, everyone!

LessPop_MoreFizz

'afternoon

Grace Note

Aftoon, @LessPop

How is everyone this bright, lovely day?

Macha

Good evening. (Ok, stretching it a bit to call it evening, but...)

Inside, playing videogames :P

Grace Note

Eve, @Macha (Is it too late or too early for evening?)

I actually never really knew. Is Evening before Night, or after Night? In the traditional time scheme, that is

I should get a console on. But just finished a restful round of golf.

Macha

@GraceNote Too early

Morning -> Afternoon -> Evening -> Night

Grace Note

16:26

Lessee... Ireland... so it's... 17:30 or 18:30 ish?

Macha

17:30

Grace Note

Ahha

Y'know, that MAEN scheme is the same as in TriUni. I probably should've figured that'd be the course of things.

Macha

Speaking of which, recommend me a new offline game to play (not Minecraft) :P Anything that is reasonably obtainable for less than €30.

Mana

geometry wars

Grace Note

I can think of a good many, it depends on your taste.

If your tastes are first-person-view, I'm out of ideas.

Macha

16:29

I'm sick of FPSes :P

Grace Note

Hah, let's see what I can suggest that doesn't require importing

...whatever was the last action game I played that I didn't import? Was it really Cave Story? Was it really 4 years ago?

Wait, before I get ahead of myself, what platforms do you own, @Macha?

Macha

PC, 360, DS, PSP

And we should probably take this to the game-rec room which I just remembered existed

Grace Note

I'll meet you there, then

It's #5

Grace Note

16:45

:3194 If the answer was "It allows you to make Zerglings", I would try this game out.

Grace Note

17:47

Quiz: Your enemies consist of a bee, a giant crab, and a missile-launching mech. Can you order them by their HP, from highest to lowest?

badp

I love cactus.

I now know what to do with those 1.5k blocks of earth.

tzenes

Crab, Mech, Bee

badp

I wish it didn't involve pressing q 1.2k times though.

Grace Note

I said highest to lowest, not the opposite!

tzenes

sorry

I normally order numbers from low to high

Grace Note

17:50

And now you know why I hate bees. Because for some reason, they have more HP than giant mecha.

And defense, to boot.

badp

Aww, the arrows can no longer be edited away.

Grace Note

Nope, not even I can remove those arrows

It should be noted that not only does this bee have more HP than my entire party, but there are two of them.

badp

Maybe I should bring more candles with me.

Hrm, 5 gold and 3 iron would be doable on one coal with impossibly perfect timing

provided gold takes exactly as much time as iron to smelt

Ivo Flipse

evening :)

Grace Note

18:06

Hey, @Ivo

Ivo Flipse

can't wait till my vacation starts

Grace Note

When does it start? And why does vacation start in the fall?

Ivo Flipse

we're taking the plane on monday 12 AM

Grace Note

Ah. Have fun, then~

Ivo Flipse

and it's this late because my GF is a nurse and had to take it more out of the season, though we had two smaller vacations during the summer too

thanks :) 24 days of road tripping in the US

tzenes

18:23

oh fuck you photoshop

the fact that you are amazing has prevented anyone else from making a good image editing program

and now I cannot affordably edit images without stealing photoshop

Ivo Flipse

paint.net?

Grace Note

GIMP?

Ivo Flipse

depends on what you're planning to do off course

Grace Note

Indeed. Whatcha editing?

tzenes

the iron rich end of the iron/carbon phase diagram

someone is wrong on the internet

and I have to prove it

Grace Note

18:25

Is this the iron/bronze thing?

tzenes

yes

Mana

sobs I HATE DOUBLE LINKED LISTS

Grace Note

Eh, @Mana?

As in, a linked list that the links go in both directions? What's wrong with them?

Ivo Flipse

links @tzenes?

tzenes

@mana really?

Mana

18:28

Well, I'm struggling with figuring out to remove an element from the list

tzenes

@Ivo gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/7962/…

@mana, this->before->next = this->next; this->next->before = this->before

Mana

That's what I did

Grace Note

Take the "next" and "previous", make "next" "previous" to be "previous", and "previous" "next" to be "next"

Mana

the problem is that this->before->next refers to the current node

tzenes

it should

Mana

18:29

so when I do that I reassign the current node to equal the current node's next node

tzenes

but its a pointer to the current node

ok, I see your problem

you need to define this first

node* this = currentnode

Ivo Flipse

which image is wrong then @tzenes?

tzenes

now this is a pointer to the current node

:3319 no I'm making an image to prove them wrong

Ivo Flipse

tzenes

this->before->next is a variable which holds a number, that number is the address location of this, but I can store any other number there too

:3322 wrong phase diagram

Ivo Flipse

18:31

ah well, what do you plan to change?

Mana

Okay, right.

tzenes

Less has a statement that "Iron isn't stronger than Bronze" this is both true and false at the same time

Mana

References to address locations in Python confuse me <.<;;

mainly because it lacks the pointer notation that C has

tzenes

ok, do you just want to delete the current node?

Mana

Yeah, without breaking the rest of the list.

tzenes

18:34

var afterthis = this->next;
var beforethis = this->before;
var before ->next = afterthis;

Mana

oh, gotcha.

tzenes

AAAAAAAAH, FUCK YOU PHOTOSHOP

Mana

:<

tzenes

paint.net does not support utf16

Ivo Flipse

18:58

then type it somewhere, that does

copy paste it as a layer in paint.net

and erase the background

voila: problem solved @tzenes

Mana

slams head on desk this is ridiculous

my head hurts

I'm gonna go eat something before I starve

badp

@balpha @JasonPunyon http://www.dokimos.org/ajff/

Tweeted by jzy on September 25, 2010 at 6:30 PM

:3332 oh god, linked lists. Yay for pre-built libraries :D

Mana

ugh, I haven't even begun my insertion method

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp Rather than carrying torches, or even Sticks or lumber, carry raw logs ('Tree' blocks) and Coal. You'll be able to carry much more with much less inventory use.

badp

Inventory use is the last of my problems

My problem is making sure I carry just as much as I need, no more, no less :)

so a boomer death deep down doesn't become a crippling loss.

That said I wish autopickup wasn't that agressive.

I might have pwned my 1.5k earth blocks, I still have 900 "granite" to make use of somehow

LessPop_MoreFizz

19:08

:3350 Make the appropriate floral offerings.

badp

goes make sense of that on the wiki

LessPop_MoreFizz

:3354 Creepers have a... strange attraction to yellow flowers.

Erm, red flower, not yellow

badp

it is anyway amazing how much safer the caves generally are

LessPop_MoreFizz

so long as they're lit.

Mana

19:27

Well, we're in the last 10 days of beta.

I guess, given all the design stuff and everything, that our site will not be rejected.

Unless we get swamped in subjective questions during the last five days or so.

Ivo Flipse

it won't be, so relax :)

Mana

I'm going to miss the features I have now

although I guess I should go for that last 60 rep to get the toolbar of cool stuff

LessPop_MoreFizz

19:51

:3364 It's just gonna get taken away when the site grows up. :(

badp

22:07

nite

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