The Bridge

Ullallulloo

22:00

@badp Yay!

FallenAngelEyes

@AshleyNunn I think it might, yeah. :( It's a shoot'em up, so it requires some pretty quick timing at points

user15026

@FallenAngelEyes I am glad I checked before buying it. :) I will have to find some good videos of it to watch - I want to see how it works.

GnomeSlice

Anyone heard of Ground Control before? Looks interesting, and it's cheap.

stevether

@GnomeSlice 100% off cheap?

GnomeSlice

No.

Ullallulloo

22:03

@AshleyNunn You point, and you click, and everything goes boom with particles.

user15026

@Ullallulloo Haha, yeah, that part i get - but since I won't be able to handle the gameplay, I want to see how it works when someone else does it :)

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Once I get the Indie Royale bundle, I'll have another copy of it to give away, if you're still interested.

Ullallulloo

@AshleyNunn , GnomeSlice posted this yesterday:

►

user15026

@GnomeSlice Oh, I am definitely interested in the game, but it looks to be one of the games I struggle with because I can't do the whole two-handed, lots of hand-eye coordination fast movement type stuff. :(

user15026

@GnomeSlice But super awesome thank yous for the offer. I super appreciate it!

GnomeSlice

22:07

@AshleyNunn You should get the Lunar Pack, it's got two games from the same devs. More relaxed games, on the whole.

user15026

Found a Really Big Sky gameplay video. That is a PRETTY game. The music is awesome, too. :)

Ullallulloo

:O I'm getting 600 KBps, I better play TF2 while my internet's awesome, and I can.

Arda Xi

resists urge to post Speedtest result

user15026

@GnomeSlice Oh, that is awesome AND it is only a dollar. I am so game for that! Thanks, Gnome. :D

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Just do it

Arda Xi

22:09

@GraceNote That's... but...

Huh?

user15026

@GnomeSlice Double bonus, the games are xbox controller compatible, so I can use that, which is AWESOME because it makes computer games easier. :)

Ullallulloo

@AshleyNunn I never understood using controllers on a pc, that's, like, defeating the whole point.

stevether

Missed my chance chart.googleapis.com/…

user15026

@Ullallulloo When you struggle using a mouse/keyboard combo, its a lifesaver

Grace Note

@Ullallulloo Not all computer games are designed conducive towards mouse/keyboard

user15026

22:12

Especially when the games you want to play are a) cheaper on PC or b) lack a console release

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo Hardly. Certain games play soooo much better with a gamepad.

And this is from a guy who shunned them for years.

Grace Note

90% of computer games I play are better on gamepad, actually...

Ullallulloo

Ideally, they'd be better with a mouse though.

stevether

True. Keyboards weren't designed for games.

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo Think platformers, for example.

stevether

22:14

Good game pads?

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn You might like 'Lunneye Devitsy' more, if you like more laid back games, but 'Wake' is one of my favourite games, ever.

Ullallulloo

@ArdaXi I could see the left joystick, but not the right.

FallenAngelEyes

I suck a lot at Super Mario on keyboard

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Have you played Hammerfight?

Ullallulloo

woot!

Arda Xi

22:14

@Ullallulloo Usually only the left is used.

Grace Note

@Ullallulloo Platformer, certain shmups, and fighting games

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo You're making me now.

FallenAngelEyes

Also it annoys me that so much stuff only works properly with an Xbox 360 controller only >:(

Gigili

@badp I saw many users talk nonsense in chat when they're bored and it's called randomness , only cause I pasted an address to ask for help?

Grace Note

@ArdaXi I told you that you should've just done it.

Arda Xi

22:14

@FallenAngelEyes They're the best kind.

Ullallulloo

@ArdaXi do it...

Arda Xi

@GraceNote But why?

Grace Note

Because it is inevitable!

user15026

@GnomeSlice Wake looks very interesting, and with the controller support, I will have to give it a go. Is the paywhatyouwant for that bundle ending soon? (aka can I wait a day or two?)

Arda Xi

Hrm. Disappointing.

FallenAngelEyes

22:15

Mar 9 at 15:11, by FallenAngelEyes

Arda Xi

I'm used to better results than this.

badp

@Gigili For starters, the flag didn't start from me, but from the community. The suspension is completely automated.

Arda Xi

Gigili

@badp I saw you and other moderators also in AU kept saying things which don't make sense at all. I was not advertising that site or anything, otherwise I wouldn't say hello and explain what I want.

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Hm... not sure. It's been like that for quite a while... I know the same bundle is like $5.99 on Gamersgate... so it probably will go back up.

Ullallulloo

22:16

Stupid Eastern Europeans and they're super internets...

badp

@Gigili Second thing, even if you don't mean to spam - it appears you're are. Stop that. Don't just pop in rooms giving out links of stuff people should check out, unless they're on topic

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo Ahem.

Eastern?

user15026

@GnomeSlice Hm. Well, 5.99 still isn't bad. Hopefully I can nab it for less, though

Arda Xi

We're on the west coast of Europe.

Ullallulloo

@ArdaXi Eastern-ish...

FallenAngelEyes

22:16

@ArdaXi I have a Logitech Rumblepad that I quite like and didn't want to have to buy a separate gamepad just to get some games to work. I found a wired 360 controller in a secondhand store, which is the only reason I have one now.

Ullallulloo

Not France

badp

Printing stuff on other stuff is not on topic for Ask Ubuntu, or Gaming, or German

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo We're right on top of France. The Netherlands.

Ullallulloo

@ArdaXi Really?

Huh...

Arda Xi

Yep.

FallenAngelEyes

22:17

Well, there's Belgium in between

Arda Xi

Best broadband in Europe.

badp

I can only give you advice, feel free to disregard it (and face the consequences).

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Psh. Belgium is half Dutch, half French anyway.

Ullallulloo

I thought that was way over east by Poland.

user15026

@ArdaXi What does all of that mean?

FallenAngelEyes

22:18

@Ullallulloo You wouldn't believe how many of my American friends think I live in Norway

Arda Xi

Hrmph. In practice, I get 120 mbit.

On Speedtest, I get 80 at most.

@AshleyNunn That my connection is awesome.

FallenAngelEyes

simply because they mix up the countries that start with "N"

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn It means his internet speeds are vastly superior to ours by orders of magnitude

Ronan Forman

@Arda Can I have the missing 40?

Ullallulloo

goes off to play TF2 with a bursted bubble :(

Arda Xi

22:19

@RonanForman No.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Have you played Hammerfight? If yes, with a gamepad or mouse?

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo I warned you.

user15026

@GraceNote Hahaha alright then.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice No, and I don't actually own a functional gamepad for the computer anymore, despite all of my previous points about their superiority

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I only have 99 at the moment

Gigili

22:19

@badp That sounds reasonable, if it's a rule. As I said, all other people talk about what they are in the mood of.

user15026

Mine is apparently worse than 70% of Canada?!

Arda Xi

I remember we had a Speedwave.

FallenAngelEyes

@AshleyNunn I blame Rogers

user15026

@FallenAngelEyes I'm not using Rogers, does that matter?

Gigili

@agent86 You have no idea how much that helped me, like saving me from death. Thank you again.

FallenAngelEyes

22:21

@AshleyNunn You're probably using Rogers, given where you live. Rogers owns most of the other companies in Ontario.

Arda Xi

speedtest.net/wave/dac8567d410126f0

user15026

@FallenAngelEyes Hm. Interesting. Did not know that.

badp

@Gigili Somebody flagged your message for spam. Enough people agreed. You got suspended. That's the rule.

FallenAngelEyes

@AshleyNunn Yeah, they suck like that :/

Gigili

@badp That's okay, thanks for your advice.

Grace Note

22:22

I nevertheless gravitate towards Gamepad-style computer games because my console experience and supreme expertise lends me well to playing them even on a keyboard.

user15026

@FallenAngelEyes sadface

Gigili

on SE, enough is a moderator or 100 normal users.

Grace Note

Actually I think it's just 3 users

Gigili

@Wipqozn Thank you for your support, that was exactly how you thought. You're awesome.

badp

Oh hey, is that Brett at the start of livestream.com/stackexchange/… ?

agent86

22:24

@Gigili okay, not a problem.

stevether

@ArdaXi What is this

user15026

ARGH. Dear Ablegamers.com - if I am trying to register, and you pop up a nice box that says "notice!" at the top - if you put words in the notice box to tell me what is wrong, I might be able to fix it.

badp

after the camera gets pushed on the side?

Arda Xi

@stevether Bragging rights for me and @FallenAngelEyes

badp

@AshleyNunn What use would it be? Since when do people read error messages?

Grace Note

22:24

@badp I don't know but I was under the impression that Brett wasn't in due to illness

user15026

@badp I always do!

badp

@GraceNote Oh. That might explain why he hasn't been around as of late.

@AshleyNunn You're the 1%

user15026

@badp Hooray?!

badp

You're hoarding the 99% of the error messages!

You're taking them all for yourself!

gets the pitchfork

user15026

@badp I can share!

Wipqozn

22:26

@Gigili I know I am.

user15026

@badp flees NOOOOO not the pitchfork!

badp

@AshleyNunn I'm not interested in your tax deducible donations of error messages!

I WANT YOUR BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!!!!!!!11111111111111one

or reps. Reps would do as well.

user15026

@badp Look, I am just trying to be nice, here. I am sharing. That is a nice thing. Just because you don't like the terms under which I am sharing...

user15026

@badp How about cupcakes? Would those work?

badp

Cupcake over IP isn't really reliable :(

user15026

22:27

@badp True. That would be a little messy.

badp

bah, I thought the podcast would be put immediately for people to view on Livestream, but that's not the case. Whatevs, have I missed something interesting and/or about Gaming?

Grace Note

Nope

badp

60 minutes of my life reallocated to something more interesting, then.

Lazers

3

Q: If I Retry, do I keep my star bits?

When you die, you have an option to either Retry or Quit. Quitting allows you to access the shop, where you can spend your star bits in the upgrade shop. If I choose to Retry, rather than Quit, do I get to keep the star bits I earned on the run I just failed? Or do I just start over normally? I...

really-big-sky

Grace Note

Woo! Return to Dreamland has shipped!

user15026

22:33

@GraceNote Hooray!

badp

yay a gold star.

Grace Note

So, estimations pit Atelier Totori on Dec 1, a memory card so I can actually play my PSP on Dec 2, and Return to Dreamland on Dec 3

user15026

That sounds like a good way to end the week

badp

"No man ever become a great warrior by merely clicking on his enemy."

So much wisdom, so little words.

Wipqozn

@badp Don't tell WoW players that.

Grace Note

22:35

I'd've preferred not needing to wait 5 days betwixt the receipt of the PSP and the ability to play it!

user15026

@GraceNote Yeah, I can see how that would be a little unfun

Grace Note

Especially considering I've had my PSP game since August.

And made the erroneous decision to read the instruction booklet midway through October, even though I knew it'd just make me impatient to want to play the game.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Gave in and bought one?

user15026

Oops :(

Grace Note

@FallenAngelEyes Gave in to what?

Wipqozn

22:37

@GraceNote Which game is this?

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote I thought I remembered you saying you didn't have a PSP before

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Trails in the Sky.

@FallenAngelEyes I didn't, though its library had been interesting. Like with any platform purchase I make nowadays, I wait until there's a sufficient library present to justify the purchase.

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Aye, my comment was re: purchasing one.

Grace Note

Well, the wait came over after I bought a game for the PSP back in August, as it were

agent86

@GraceNote I've considered asking for/stealing my brother's PSP

badp

22:40

oh man

agent86

he doesn't use it anymore, but he lives several hours away and I rarely see him.

but the library seems interesting

badp

Dungeons of Dredmor... has hats!

Grace Note

I live with my brother, so no issue there. ♪

agent86

@badp holy crap. WATCH OUT VALVE

badp

Well, obviously it does, it's a roguelike. But the tutorial hat is a traffic cone!

agent86

22:41

someone's muscling in on their mad hat profitz

@GraceNote it's too bad you don't live with my brother. Then you could get his PSP and send it to me. This is sounding complex though.

Ronan Forman

@badp But you can't see it on your character...

badp

"It might be a ridicolous hat, but at least you won't get hit by a car."

GnomeSlice

@badp Cardinal Quest doesn't. Well, not really.

badp

@RonanForman Just like TF2 hats!

Raven Dreamer

Recreating that castle in Minecraft is my next project!

Wipqozn

22:42

@RavenDreamer HOMM6?

Raven Dreamer

Indeed.

RedriderX

cool

Wipqozn

Well, I suppose it would be MMH6.

Raven Dreamer

And I was reminded today of how @#$*@#$*HGING#$@ ing stupid it is that I'm not allowed local saves for a game I ~~bought~~ got through the SE Gaming grant!

Ronan Forman

Why is politian a job?

RedriderX

22:43

@RavenDreamer "politian"?

Ronan Forman

(I'm watching the news)

Raven Dreamer

I think you pinged the wrong person.

politician

RedriderX

@RavenDreamer i wondered...

user15026

m. If someone asks for a list of X (in this case, Diablo II runewords in rank order) and you find them a link to a list of that thing, but the link leads to a HUGE table, do you need to put that table in the answer? I am not sure how the formatting would scale.

badp

Oh man

"Enemy Dodge Reduction - because heroes never miss, but sometimes enemy dodge your attack"

I like the attitude of this game.

RedriderX

22:46

wow, humble bundle could tack more on.

GnomeSlice

►

badp

I just wish steam screenshots worked

Raven Dreamer

@AshleyNunn You can probably get away with print-screen-ing the info.

badp

it's just too much work to alt-stamp and open paint and save stuff etc.

Raven Dreamer

@GraceNote - what's the deal with

user15026

22:47

@RavenDreamer The info takes up multiple screens on my netbook. :( so I don't quite know how to proceed. :(

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Is it a webpage?

user15026

@GnomeSlice yup. A long one.

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Are you using Chrome, by chance?

user15026

Yes. :)

GnomeSlice

Excellent. Just install this extension.

It has an option to capture an entire page.

You'll have to reload the page though, after installing, before you can use it.

user15026

22:49

@GnomeSlice Awesome! Thanks!

GnomeSlice

It doesn't like some websites, not sure why. Also, make sure not to touch anything while it's capturing.

user15026

Good to know :)

badp

"Wand of Laser - Aside from some tangential properties, this wand's primary magical power involves distracting cats"

Grace Note

@RavenDreamer What's the deal with what?

GnomeSlice

@badp What's this?

badp

22:52

Dungeons of Dredmor

Lazers

0

Q: What rune words can I build at lower levels?

I started a new ladder character and am beginning to find random runes in Act II (Normal). What rune words can I reasonably find runes for and create while I'm still in Normal? I know of Stealth (TalEth), but the words on the Arreat Summit aren't listed by level, rather alphabetically. Is ther...

diablo-2

GnomeSlice

So... I never got an answer in the podcast room.

Should I be worried about whatever this new copyright thing is as it relates to my splash screen?

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Do you concerned about SE suing you for copyright infringement?

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn I do, a little. Not really sure how any of this stuff works.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Something tells me you don't need to worry about it.

@GnomeSlice SE is against the law, so I doubt you'd see them exploit it to pick on you and you giving them free advertising.

GnomeSlice

23:02

@Wipqozn Jeff hates the gaming site.

Also, I make myself sound like a complete moron every week during the podcasts.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Are you okay with being credited as schedule ruiner?

Wipqozn

@RonanForman I think it's hilarious.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman What'd he do?

Ronan Forman

@Gnome Ruined schedules.

GnomeSlice

...Specifically...?

Ronan Forman

23:04

Well actually he didn't, he just made it hard to make one.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Minecraft RAce for wool

GnomeSlice

I see.

user15026

@GnomeSlice That extension worked great! Thanks!

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn I like it quite a lot. My only issue is that on certain pages it... doesn't behave correctly, particularly with the 'capture region' option.

user15026

@GnomeSlice Yeah, when I used the capture region, it captured the wrong area :( But I used the full page option, and just cropped from there

GnomeSlice

23:08

The basic arrows, circles, and blur tools are handy too. I use the Lightshot for most places because it's more reliable, but it can't capture the entire page, or scroll down in a region. It takes a capture of your desktop, including taskbars and such.

@AshleyNunn Yeah, it captured off to the left, I'm guessing?

user15026

@GnomeSlice Yup, that is exactly what it did.

GnomeSlice

It's USUALLY pretty good... Pages with dynamic content don't tend to agree with its regions.

It also won't capture flash.

user15026

@GnomeSlice Good to know. I don't need to use screencapturing often, so I don't think it will be too big of a problem. :D

FallenAngelEyes

I wish Really Big Sky's Library had pictures of the enemies instead of just descriptions :(

GnomeSlice

No, it works really well, particularly when you need to capture information, like you did.

badp

23:11

"Pray to Inconsequentia, the Goddess of Sidequests?"

oh man.

GnomeSlice

@badp This sounds like a game I need to play.

Anyone want to buy me the IndieRoyale bundle?

user15026

@badp What game is this?

badp

20 mins ago, by badp

Dungeons of Dredmor

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Dungeons of Dredmor.

Er, that.

user15026

@badp It looks like it has a good sense of humor :)

Lazers

23:17

5

Q: Can I haunt people as a ghost?

I have 2 extra philter of the phantom potions from a quest that make me appear spectral for 30 seconds. Are there any practical uses for this? I can use it to scare other people for some benefit or use it to walk by undead safely? Also, is it possible to make more?

skyrim

Wipqozn

@badp: Have you just started playing Dungeons of Dredmor, or have you been playing for awhile?

badp

@Wipqozn Just started

Let me guess - you can't sell junk, right?

Wipqozn

@badp It's graphically roguelike, right?

badp

@Wipqozn It's the least graphically roguelike roguelike I've seen so far

GnomeSlice

Gah, After Effets, y u no play this 31Mb .flv? Now I need to download the 117Mb mp4, don't I...

Weird... when I do a user search, the result shows 19 rep, but the profile shows 20.

Lost in Mystery

20 3

indie-games 5-days

FallenAngelEyes

23:24

If you can run it, Really Big Sky alone is worth the bundle

GnomeSlice

@FallenAngelEyes No kidding. I bought it on Gamersgate at 50% off and still paid more than that. x_x

Slightly more, but still more. Plus I only got one game out of it.

FallenAngelEyes

I thought I didn't have Breath and Death and Cthulu so I went for the bundle

turned out I already had them so Really Big Sky was the only one I didn't have >>

still worth it though

GnomeSlice

thought?

You had Eufloria and and the other one?

Can I have your other ones? Really Big Sky is the only one I DO have.

:P

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice You can always try Adobe Media Encoder, if it's included with your copy.

Wipqozn

@badp WEll I'll be interested to hear your thoughts on it, and how it compares to ASCII roguelikes. If I recall correctly, you're a fan of them.

badp

23:28

It's probably even harder than most roguelikes

Arda Xi

Dungeons of Dredmor is a roguelike?

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Yeah, I've got the full suite. Ah well, this one's about a quarter done downloading, and the higher def version would be nice to work with anyway.

Arda Xi

Can't argue with that.

badp

Most have stuff like potions of healing. If you have 1 hp, you can drink one and go back to say 50.

GnomeSlice

Also, the Media Encoder always tries to bite me.

badp

23:29

Here you can only get improved health regen.

If you have 1 hp you're as good as dead.

Grace Note

@badp You play more benevolent roguelikes than I do, it seems

GnomeSlice

@badp Cardinal Quest's potions don't refill you all the way.

I'm not even sure if CC has an end, I always die as soon as I get to the third section.

FallenAngelEyes

@GnomeSlice Sorry, already gave them to Jochem

GnomeSlice

'Section' being 'point where the colours and music change'.

badp

@GraceNote I picked 50 at random :P

GnomeSlice

23:30

@FallenAngelEyes No problem.

badp

I dunno, I'm having trouble exploring much of the first level here

Perhaps my combination of skills isn't awesome

swaps Magic Trading for Smithing

swaps Mathemagician with Artful Dodger

GnomeSlice

Huh, looks like ido uploaded the full Cardinal Quest game to Kongregate now... seems odd considering you need to buy the game everywhere else. Go play it!

Lazers

0

Q: How to throw a body after holding it from behind?

While playing multiplayer you can pick up a downed opponent from behind and carry them around as a shield. While in this position you can only use your pistol. I have seen another player kick the body they are holding towards out away from themselves, giving them a second behind the body shield...

combat gears-of-war-3

GnomeSlice

23:48

So, none of you play Voxatron?

Anyway, I was actually thinking we could brand future tournaments as just 'Game Overflow!' or something.

I'd like to try doing some more Motion Graphics for that too, but I don't think I'm going to have time to do it for free.

badp

Uh. Magicka update.

Lazers

0

Q: Do damage rig effects stack with non-rig damage modules without penalty?

The description for Hybrid Rig Collision Accelerator I, a rig slot damage increaser, warns that: Penalty: Using more than one type of this module or similar modules that affect the same attribute on the ship will be penalized. A Magnetic Field Stabilizer I, a low-slot damage increaser, c...

eve-online rigs modules

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