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Ullallulloo

19:00

@RedriderX We're growing faster too.

RedriderX

@Ullallulloo oh

Ullallulloo

stackexchange.com/sites?expand=true

RedriderX

@Ullallulloo ya i see your point

so i guess indie royale's bundle finally came out. but is that even worth mentioning? are these games any good?

Powerlord

@RedriderX They've had multiple bundles come out. Should I assume you mean the "Big Bundle" ?

RedriderX

@Powerlord yes the one that just came out today

Lazers

19:10

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Q: Once something has been sold to a merchant, does it disappear?

I am quite sure I have sold the first dragon priest mask I found, to a merchant. I'm not entirely sure which merchant though. It happened a long time ago, now. Can I find the merchant and buy it back, or will it have disappeared, once the store was re-stocked?

skyrim

2

Q: How can I disable Riddler's Proximity Mines?

In Batman: Arkham City, some Riddler trophies are found behind Riddler's Proximity Mines. When Batman gets close, they explode. These mines must be disabled in order to reach those trophies. I use Detective Mode to discover if they are connected to any mechanism, but they seem not to be connected...

batman-arkham-city

Ullallulloo

@RedriderX GnomeSlice was talking about Really Big Sky yesterday.

Powerlord

@RedriderX Their site's blocked where I worked. They could announce they're giving out free candy to the first million customers and there's no way I'd find out unless someone mentioned it.

Ullallulloo

And I've heard of Cthulhu Saves the World and Eufloria before, but I don't know anything about them.

Wipqozn

@RedriderX We have a high answered questions ratio, and more meta posts as well.

FallenAngelEyes

@Ullallulloo CStW and Breath of Death VII are apparently throwbacks to old school JRPGs

Eufloria is... well, at the heart it's an RTS. I followed it for a long time before it came out. It's pretty interesting, but the pacing can still be kind of slow even after the patch that sped it up.

I quite like it.

badp

19:14

@Brant How long 'til that turns into GOKU?

Ullallulloo

@badp K?

FallenAngelEyes

also, figures, I just bought Runespell Overture the other day

badp

@Ullallulloo I dunno. Kool User?

Tom Wijsman

Oh shi...

agent86

I played breath of death, it was good, but not particularly deep or long

Tom Wijsman

19:17

agent86

it was kind of like dragon warrior, but if there was far less meat to it

badp

@TomWijsman Take a good hard look at the motherfucking troll?

David B

@TomWijsman steel armor?

Tom Wijsman

Troll down... Two dragons to go, on Adept difficulty. o_O

David B

ah, nice dragons. haven't seen two together like that

Tom Wijsman

19:19

I think the game was meant to give me one dragon each X hours, but this is just weird.

Perhaps I'm near a dragon nest or something and I have triggered the second one by an event.

One is Frost, the other is Fire. And now they have killed me from two angles, ridiculous... xD

badp

Close the dragon as not constructive!

agent86

@badp flagged.

badp

You do have enough rep for the close shout right?

David B

nono, lock one dragon while you sort out the other one

badp

@DavidB But you need a mod for that! I don't have skyrim!

And Raven isn't around.

Ullallulloo

19:22

@Powerlord indieroyale.com/#newsletter

Powerlord

12 mins ago, by Powerlord

@RedriderX Their site's blocked where I worked. They could announce they're giving out free candy to the first million customers and there's no way I'd find out unless someone mentioned it.

where I work, not worked. Stupid typos.

Not surprisingly, the newsletter on the same site is also blocked.

Ullallulloo

@Powerlord oh, right, you can't see it now, but they have a newsletter, so they can email you when one comes out

agent86

@Powerlord ssh proxy? that's what I do

Wipqozn

@Powerlord oh, okay. For a moment there I thought you were fired.

agent86

rent a VPS, ssh tunnel to it, install tinyproxy, bounce off of it, internetz

Powerlord

19:28

I'm wary of using proxies just in case someone comes up, sees me on a Gaming site, and mentions it to someone who has the power to fire me.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord Clearly you need an office.

agent86

@Powerlord oh, non-private screen. Here they don't really care, but I can understand. I do it for paranoia more than anything else

Powerlord

@Wipqozn Too bad I have a cubicle instead.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord I assumed as much.

Lazers

1

Q: Creeper blew me into space (?). Can't see anything. How do I get back?

Creeper got the drop on me. I'm in space (I guess). All I can see are the sun, the stars and the moon. Single player survival mode. I can move, i.e., avatar makes walking motions, but the scenery doesn't change.

minecraft

agent86

19:32

@Powerlord eh, I've got a cube. I've also got a privacy filter on my monitor

again, not like they care, my job is more "if the work gets done, that's good"

I can work from home and stuff if I so choose

Ronan Forman

►

GnomeSlice

19:46

Dungeons of Dredmor was just added to the Humble Introversion Bundle.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice I guess they forgot it was supposed to be Introversion games only?

GnomeSlice

Oh well.

badp

I have been proved wrong

woo

agent86

WHAT. I just bought dreadmor too.

oh well, I wasn't going to get the introvision bundle (own it all already) and I only paid $2.50 for dreadmor

still, suck it, humble bundle

badp

And I got it even despite my $.08 payment (I only got the bundle because of the city generator.)

Which runs stupid slow anyway.

I guess that means I get to see how much worth the extra game is, and then pay based on it.

GnomeSlice

19:52

@badp Isn't that a tech demo?

badp

@GnomeSlice Yes

I already had all the rest.

oh, by the way

Introversion Source Code Information
Introversion is offering every Humble Introversion Bundle customer access to their source code for Darwinia + Multiwinia, DEFCON, and Uplink!

Please go here to register for SVN access to get the latest revisions, wiki access, and developer forum access. You will need to bring your DEFCON or Multiwinia multiplayer code from the box above in order to register. You can also get started right away by simply downloading a source snapshot from the links below:

Darwinia / Multiwinia Source

GnomeSlice

I'm going to assume that wasn't just directed at me, because it doesn't interest me in the slightest.

badp

You need a forum account to do that and forum signups are obviously down

user15026

@badp This might be a ridiculous question, but why do they release the source code? what do people do with that?

badp

@AshleyNunn I don't know what terms the source code was released under

@AshleyNunn but you can still play with it and learn things from it

GnomeSlice

19:56

@AshleyNunn Mods, as well.

user15026

@badp In general, though, what good is having the source code?

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn You can create mods, and you can get a better understanding of how confusing things in the game work.

Grace Note

Also may or may not reveal tidbits that people didn't even realize

user15026

@GnomeSlice Ah, neat. :)

user15026

@GraceNote Oh? Like what sorts of things?

Grace Note

19:58

Well, for example, take Nethack, which is open source. The open source nature meant that a lot of the crazy things present in the game are known to a wider audience, because it's possible to be certain in knowing absolutely everything.

agent86

@AshleyNunn It's an unusual, a bit like olive garden releasing their recipes so anyone can make the dishes at home

badp

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agent86

some places it's pretty common, for instance, all id software games get a source code release eventually (in general)

badp

@GraceNote Yep. Contrast with ADoM, where a few things are still iffy despite the great amount of time that's passed since release.

agent86

but watching John Carmack work is crazy. that dude is smart.

Grace Note

19:59

@badp Exactly the counter point I was thinking of

Powerlord

trololololo

badp

(ADoM isn't shared source, so that doesn't really counter the point does it?)

user15026

Innnnteresting.

Ullallulloo

...I think I'm gonna buy the Humble Indie Bundle now...

I was really tempted to yesterday for Defcon, but now with DoD...

agent86

games that get a source release or have really good mod tools tend to last longer, and build a community.

Powerlord

20:01

@Ullallulloo Day of Defeat is a Valve game, what's it doing in the Introversion Humble Bundle?

(yay for acronyms!)

agent86

@Powerlord cough*smartass*cough

Ullallulloo

@Powerlord Dungeons of Dredmor, since we were just talking about it, I didn't think I needed to spell it out for you.

I still don't know what it's doing there.

stevether

I don't see this here yet indieroyale.com

David B

with the source, you can get at every number and calculation the game uses. hit chance, crit chance, movement rates, gold reward calculations, experience. you name it.

Powerlord

57 mins ago, by RedriderX

so i guess indie royale's bundle finally came out. but is that even worth mentioning? are these games any good?

stevether

20:04

I stand corrected.

And Eufloria looks cool.

Grace Note

@badp Point was more to say what is known when source code is available, versus when it isn't. Method of availability wasn't much the binary point.

Powerlord

I'm pretty sure I already have Eufloria

agent86

@Powerlord I think I got it in a bundle last year at christmas during the steam sale

stevether

@Powerlord Well then this buddle clearly is not for you :P

GnomeSlice

GOD DAMMIT.

That bundle has Really Big Sky in it!?

SHIT.

Wipqozn

20:12

@GnomeSlice what?

What's the problem?

Grace Note

He just bought it. Yesterday. Twice.

GnomeSlice

I just bought that for more than I'm paying for this bundle.

@GraceNote I'd bought it for me about a week ago.

Grace Note

Shhhh! Reality makes things less fun, you know that!

GnomeSlice

Oh, shit, I don't have $4 in my paypal account apparently.

Ullallulloo

Wait, can you use Amazon gifts cards with Amazon Payments?

Grace Note

20:14

You should... always keep an eye on how much money you have in your reserves

Wipqozn

@Ullallulloo Shockingly, yes.

GnomeSlice

God dammit. I have $3.57.

I need $4.23.

@GraceNote Yeah... I was expecting my grant reimbursement by now.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice For the bunble?

Ullallulloo

@Wipqozn Good, because I am using a very complicated method to buy the Humble Bundle for free.

Wipqozn

@Ullallulloo Good job.

GnomeSlice

20:15

@Wipqozn Yes. Not sure where the extra 23 cents comes from.

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Looking into it

GnomeSlice

Still 4 days left in the bundle.

stevether

I can spot you.

Lazers

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Q: Chapter 3, Mission 3 - Lost the ability to use scout drone

There are several side quests where you have to use the scout drone on your ship to scan underwater areas. On my ship I do not have the "scout drone" in my slot. I cannot buy this item either. What can I do?

anno-2070

GnomeSlice

Rats, if I had waited to buy Really Big Sky, I'd be able to afford it.

At any rate, I'm going to have another copy of it to give away.

Powerlord

20:16

Royal Indie bundles change prices as people buy above and at list price.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote Oh good, because I've been wondering where my money is as well.

Powerlord

The more people who buy it for as low as they can, the higher the price goes.

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord I usually round up to the next round dollar above the minimum.

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Oh yeah, I need to talk to Brett.

Grace Note

Checked internally. Reimbursements have been delayed a bit but we should be running them this week-ish.

agent86

20:18

@GraceNote week-ish is a technical term.

user15026

@GraceNote Just out of curiousity, because I have never done a reimbursement before, how long does it usually take?

user15026

@GraceNote Oh, then enver mind my question :)

Grace Note

@AshleyNunn Right now we only have one person who handles all of these money things.

GnomeSlice

I like how the latest changes shows an iron star for the guy who paid $10.01, but not for the guy who paid $10.00

FallenAngelEyes

@GraceNote Ah, thanks, I was wondering about that

user15026

20:19

@GraceNote Yeah, I am not too worried about it, to be honest. :) I was just curious if there was an expected time frame.

GnomeSlice

Interestingly, I almost bought 'Eufloria' recently too.

Ullallulloo

If you want to save money on the Indie Royal Bundle, get Notch to buy it first.

GnomeSlice

Two frames left to render...

One!

Ronan Forman

What are you making?

GnomeSlice

Missed assignment for Motion graphics class.

It turned out I was actually down 40 marks, and 8 assignments.

So I've been doing them all over the past few days.

Oh. NOW it's rendering the last frame.

Arda Xi

20:23

Wait, woah. Introversion open-sourced their games?

Ronan Forman

I'm making some credits for my videos at the moment, they're looking pretty good.

GnomeSlice

Well, on the plus side, if I can't find anyone who wants Really Big Sky, I'll now have a Steam-enabled copy.

Although to be honest, I'm not really sure that's a plus.

Ullallulloo

@ArdaXi If you buy them they'll give the source to you, not exactly open-sourced though.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Can you include my gravatar?

Arda Xi

@Ullallulloo Potato, french fry.

Ullallulloo

20:24

@ArdaXi yum :d

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice I'll have you as graphics designer.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Why not just 'video effects'?

Or 'splash screen'?

Ronan Forman

What do you prefer?

badp

OH MY GOD HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SUCH RETARDS

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GnomeSlice

I don't know, but not 'graphics designer'.

I mean you did some of them too.

@badp Nobody was asking you, you jerk.

badp

20:26

we've had the kitchen unusable for 3 weeks

and we had to call the caretaker and everything

and he came and unclogged the sinks and write a message

Grace Note

Please tell me some manner of netherbeast has been born from the mess, please tell me some manner of netherbeast has been born from the mess...

badp

and he asked to fucking stop throwing shit down the drain

@GraceNote I dunno, are lattuce and ham conducive in a static nutritive sea of watery stuff to netherbeasts?

(WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU THROW HAM AWAY?!)

Grace Note

I assume Lattuce is a combination of Lettuce and Diagramatical Netherwork Lattices, so probably.

Ronan Forman

@GraceNote Maybe it's stitched lettuce.

Grace Note

@badp If it was spoiled, I'd toss it, but not into the sink. That's just silly.

badp

20:29

@GraceNote No, it's all cut in small pieces

Arda Xi

@badp You had to call the caretaker for that? I usually just buy a bottle of unblocker and toss it down there.

GnomeSlice

Get a dog.

badp

@ArdaXi PEOPLE HAVE BEEN USING THE UNBLOCKER FOR DISHWASHING

Arda Xi

@badp Maybe they're used to a garbage disposal?

Grace Note

@badp That makes even less sense. And still doesn't make sense as to why they're tossing it in the sink instead of, say, a trash receptacle

Arda Xi

20:29

@badp Wait... what? That shit's corrosive.

GnomeSlice

Guuhhhh I want this bundle...

Grace Note

@ArdaXi To be fair, @badp did preface this discussion with how incredibly stupid his housemates must be

Arda Xi

I'm curious how nobody got injured.

Ronan Forman

BOOM! Part 7 is uploaded!

badp

@ArdaXi I guess that if you wash reeeeallly carefully?

Alternatively - and I think this is what happened - barely nobody cleaned their dishes anyway

GnomeSlice

20:31

@RonanForman 7?

badp

because I'd basically never see bubbly traces of cleaning agents in the clogged sinks

GnomeSlice

Why not just upload it all as one video?

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice one four hour video?

badp

I think what most people do is just cook in the kitchen then bring the plate to the laptop and end the meal privately

and perhaps clean their shit there

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman That's an awful lot, but there are longer.

badp

20:32

hah.

@GnomeSlice the really big bundle is out

guess what "really big" stood for?

hint - three letters

Arda Xi

@RonanForman So long as it's less than 20 GB you should be okay.

GnomeSlice

@badp I got it, thanks.

badp

You're welcome

GnomeSlice

21 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

GOD DAMMIT.

Ullallulloo

21 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

That bundle has Really Big Sky in it!?

user30

20:33

is that on the uhh, other indie bundle site I linked when it first started

badp

@ThomasMcDonald yes

GnomeSlice

21 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

SHIT.

@ThomasMcDonald The one partnered with indiegames.com, yes.

user30

what was it called?

GnomeSlice

Indie Royale.

Ullallulloo

@ThomasMcDonald Indie Royale

badp

20:33

Really Big Sky + Runespell Overture + Eufloria + Cthulhu Saves The World + Breath Of Death VII

Ronan Forman

Also this way the first two are out and I haven't finished editing the last one.

badp

so I can't play the first, I already have the latter two...

ehhhhh...

user30

yeah, I'll skip that one, again

GnomeSlice

@badp Can't play the first?

badp

@GnomeSlice It runs too slowly

GnomeSlice

20:35

=[ Runs pretty slowly even for me.

I should try it on my recently upgraded desktop.

The reason I'm so annoyed is that I just bought RBS twice on sale, and still paid more than I'd be paying if I'd done the same now.

badp

I checked back. The ham actually was tuna.

GnomeSlice

Although, @GraceNote doesn't have Steam, so that's a plus.

Grace Note

@badp Even more susceptible to spoiling

Arda Xi

@badp Well that explains it then.

Grace Note

Though equally still not stuff you shove down a sink!

GnomeSlice

20:37

Weird, if you link this bundle on facebook or something, it shows up as 'the difficult second bundle'.

stevether

@GnomeSlice That is weird. Maybe Facebook has their info cached.

GnomeSlice

Anyone interested in Mirror's Edge for 70% off?

stevether

I'm interested for 100% off.

GnomeSlice

$5.99

stevether

That's not 100% off.

GnomeSlice

20:44

It's on sale on Gamersgate.

Grace Note

Oh, hey, it's @stevether!

Hey @stevether!

stevether

Hello. Are we acquainted somewhere else?

user30

Grace Note

Possibly. Possibly not. Yours is nevertheless a name I recall from Android

user30

I'm sold.

stevether

20:46

@GraceNote Ah.

FallenAngelEyes

So really Really Big Sky is basically "Ok, you can run in either 1920x1080 or fullscreen* but not both" >:(

GnomeSlice

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, BossBaddie needs to work on their display options.

They really know how to make pretty games... but they aren't very flexible.

FallenAngelEyes

And it's totally not reading my Logitech Rumblepad properly

So I have proper left stick but not proper right stick...

:|

GnomeSlice

...Weird.

FallenAngelEyes

which is kind of, y'know, detrimental to shooting

it wouldn't be so bad if it put the gun aiming forward as default, but it's aiming at like, 10 o'clock

badp

20:53

Today's pasta was really good. Wish I'd made some more.

stevether

Damn mods on android.SE

Grace Note

?

What's up?

GnomeSlice

Good grief, 54 Mb for a 6 second clip.

Oh DAMMIT podcast.

stevether

I removed kindle-fire-contest from one of my questions. That tag has nothing to do with my question so I took it off. It got re-added and they protected my question. Now I couldn't even edit it for a valid reason if I wanted to.

Grace Note

@stevether Protection doesn't prevent editing

In fact, @stevether, you actually readded it after that mod re-removed it.

stevether

20:58

o_O

Grace Note

@stevether android.stackexchange.com/posts/12962/revisions

stevether

How'd that happen...

Grace Note

I'm not sure but you might consider re-rolling back, haha.

stevether

Well now I just look silly.

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