The Bridge

djsmiley2k

12:02

I'm finally upto v's in my google music playlist

it's taken about 3 months to g et this far

Chippies

@Arperum oh damn, I didn't even think of that.

Frank

Isn't Unikitty still banned?

Chippies

@Arperum I got Flow of Eternity, Madstone and Broken Promises

Frank

He seems to have deleted his account or something; I can't find it.

Arperum

@Chippies (I'm passing your build to a friend who plays a monk)

Chippies

12:09

@Arperum it's based off of this build

before I got all my pieces, I ran partial version of this

Frank

But he has a bot he's apparently using that might need some mod attention.

Chippies

both builds should be gr64 solo viable

Kevin van der Velden

@Frank it also has 5 rep so it can't join chat

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, but it's still circumventing the ban.

Chippies

of course depends on your rolls and your own skill, but I'd say grift 50 should definitely be possible

Kevin van der Velden

12:11

@Frank not if it's just a chatban

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden Pretty sure it was a site ban, too.

Kevin van der Velden

Dunno

Arperum

@Chippies I think he has that set you use complete.

Kevin van der Velden

I could, of course, be wrong

Chippies

@Arperum madstone is fairly important there too, although it's possible to do without it if you have gungdo gear

Arperum

12:13

@Chippies He had a lvl 23 gungdo IIRC, and kanai'd that at some point.

Chippies

@Arperum well, I suppose he can use it in the cube until he gets madstone, but it's best to have both and he can only have one in the cube

although for very high level grifts madstone isn't optimal, he'll need another bracer

Arperum

True.

Chippies

the build is quite fun once you get used to it

at first I kept running out of spirit and had no idea what to do

then I realized that epiphany is for spirit regen

I got almost 50% cooldown reduction, more with full gogok stacks, I guess

Private Pansy

Hmmmm. I think something happened between my computer and CloudFlare's servers

Arperum

That's currently the issue I'm having with my barb. I need some better fury generation, I'm hoping for a hellfire amulet with a passive I use, so I can switch to the fury generation passive. Or find those two bloody set mighty weapons.

Chippies

12:19

@Arperum hellfire amulets are so easy to craft now though, it's insane

I crafted 3 of them (would've been 4, but one of the ubers only dropped 1 piece) and only ran the ubers twice

they changed it so that when the IM drops, it drops for everyone separately, so you get less IM's in a party, but more chances to drop

with 2 people, on T6, at least one of us got the IM from each keywarden

Frank

@Chippies Which is good, because they still only have a really small chance of actually being useful.

Chippies

@Frank well, the fact that they all roll a socket is pretty great

but they are definitely more useful now than before, because you can craft a lot of them

Frank

@Chippies It helps, for sure.

Chippies

your limiting factor is forgotten souls now

Frank

@KevinvanderVelden

Yep. Banned.

Lazers 2.0

12:23

1

Q: How to spawn rebel citizen medic?

In Half-Life 2 the console command npc_create npc_citizen spawns a rebel citizen. is there a cheat to spawn a rebel medic?

djsmiley2k

@Frank who's that

and why does their profile box contain images of downvoted questions o_O?

two bugs

@djsmiley2k Looks like Unikitty

djsmiley2k

o

I presume that is the uni-* person

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: What happens if Baron Rivendare and Dreadsteed dies at the same time?

In Hearthstone there are the two minion cards Baron Rivendare and Dreadsteed. The Baron's ability is "Your minions trigger their Deathrattles twice" and the Dreadsteed has "Deathrattle: Summon a Dreadsteed." Imagine the first player has both on the table. What happens if the second player kills...

hearthstone

Rapitor

12:40

o/

Arperum

@Chippies Forgotten souls are an issue for me.

ALso: they removed the lvl 60 hellfire ring achievement

Chippies

@Arperum I haven't had much use for them yet (besides the 3 hellfire amulets and couple rerolls), so I have over 100 of them

@Arperum told you they would :P

Arperum

@Chippies I've been trying to roll a bloody socket on my hellfire ring for some time now. Still nothing. (and yes, that's the best ring I currently have)

Chippies

@Arperum I used yellow rings just because I knew what rings I wanted, so I didn't reroll any legendary rings

my amulet was socketless for the longest time as well, because I knew I was gonna get a hellfire amulet

basically, I didn't reroll anything I knew I wasn't going to keep

Arperum

I don't know what I want, so I'm just playing around, focus and restraint do look good, I have restraint since forever.

Chippies

12:44

I had focus for a long time, it took me a really long time to get restraint

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I got two RoRGs from A1 bounty caches (the first two, actually)

Chippies

and you don't even need great stats on them, the bonus itself is amazing

two bugs

Feel free to hate me :)

Chippies

@twobugs heh, I still haven't found a RoRG

good thing is though - I don't need one for my build

two bugs

I definitely want focus and restraint, but RoRG is so good for starting out

I'm not aware of any final builds that use RoRG but it lets you start farming way earlier

Chippies

12:46

@twobugs definitely - would've saved me 2 days of running with a different build because I couldn't get a helm for my set

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And it's better for t10 farming IMO

Arperum

I have one in use, but don't know if it is kanai'd or in replacement of my hellfire ring. Gah.

Chippies

@twobugs barb's WW/IK build uses RoRG

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Man I want to play Diablo but like... I want to play MGS5, too :P

Chippies

@Arperum RoRG is so gross, I think the only place for it is in the cube

I have never seen a RoRG with good stats

two bugs

12:47

Well RoRG always rolls with Attack Speed, which is a pretty bad stat

Chippies

many times I have dropped a RoRG that rolled a different classes main stat

Arperum

@Chippies Hmm, I have to have it equipped, since I kanai'd some whirlwind boosting ring that was super crappy.

two bugs

Are you playing barb, Arperum?

Chippies

@Arperum the WW boost is rather small, because it just adds on top of your WW damage

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@Chippies Yeah, doesn't effect Dust Devils

Arperum

12:48

@twobugs Ah, booh.

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And doesn't stack multiplicatively with the set bonus, I believe

Arperum

Did not know that.

Chippies

if you have 500% WW dmg and the ring adds 100% (I don't remember the numbers), your WW now does 600%

and doesn't affect DD

Arperum

@Chippies ring does 400%

Chippies

@Arperum but the lightning rune does like 700% or something?

so it's not even doubling the damage

two bugs

12:49

It's still a good ring if you don't have anything better, but it's very underwhelming

Chippies

and the damage on WW itself isn't very useful compared to dust devils

I used to want that ring in S3, but then I read about how it works

didn't seem as awesome then

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I got an ancient version of it in S3. I was super excited until I actually used it and my numbers only went up a bit.

Chippies

I gotta try T10, see how many times I can die in 5 minutes :P

goldwraps + boon of hoarder is insane for regular rifts

two bugs

Yeah, I guess gold sort of has a use again

That time period after they added the treasure vault but before they added significant goldsinks was hilarious

Billions of gold with nothing to spend it on

Chippies

my lv1 boon of the hoarder isn't doing a good job

gonna need to upgrade that before I can run T10 with it

Arperum

12:59

@Chippies boon of the hoarder is also limited at lvl 50.

@Chippies I'm currently using the ice rune that pulls enemies into the dust devils basically.

Chippies

@Arperum I know, I'll probably get that to 25 and just leave it at that

gonna need to run some public rifts when wife is ready to play, I need grift keys

Kevin van der Velden

@Frank did not know that

Also, I'm not sure if I like the fact that I can now receive pings on my phone where ever I am

Sterno

My MGS5 Experience (first mission spoilers)

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Chippies

@Arperum neat, I used the fury regen rune for reg rifts and the life leech rune for grifts

Arperum

@Chippies I might have to start using the fury regen rune.

Chippies

13:03

this is my S3 WW barb

two bugs

@Sterno You beat the first mission, right? How about that ending to it?

Chippies

with that setup I had great survivability, fury regen and dps

I had a normal rift setup without the IK, but with the 2 fury swords, whatever those were called...

Sterno

@twobugs Yes and no. I got to Miller and threw him over my shoulders. Then a kid woke up so I stopped playing.

So I imagine I'm almost done with it, but don't really know

two bugs

You are. You're in for a treat, though.

Also if you kill people you're playing MGS wrong! But that's my snobbery talking

You'll discover that for yourself on the ranking screen ;)

Sterno

Oh, I wasn't trying to murder everyone.

It just happened that way.

Mainly due to me being really clumsy with the controls

After a while it was just "fuck it, let's kill them all"

two bugs

13:06

You should play MGS3 and murder everyone

it'll make a certain part of the game very fun!

Sterno

Somewhere around it telling me I'd been hit for the 120th time with bullets

I plan to replay the mission tonight

(assuming that's possible)

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I was sad, I only got an A for that mission because you don't get to see some of the objectives until you beat it AND you can't even do them until replays

Getting S ranks for the extra ops, though!

Arperum

@Chippies I have neither right now.

StrixVaria

@Sterno This reminds me of my short time with Deus Ex: Human Revolution. After I killed everyone in the police station and some surrounding areas, I thought that maybe this isn't the game for me.

Sterno

How does clearing guard posts worked? The very first one said I cleared it when I took out the two guards. Others never did. Although at one point, which approaching the location where Miller was, I randomly got a "Guard Outpost Cleared" message, even though I hadn't touched an enemy or done anything of note in like 10 minutes

two bugs

13:07

Basically right after that mission you get introduced to the base mechanic and can free roam

@Sterno I don't know, I usually stealth in and steal their supplies/tape and leave without them even noticing me. It gives me great pleasure to be a world class criminal who steals cassette tapes

Oh man, there are musical ones too you can steal

In the first extra op I did I stole the "Kids in America" tape

11/10 game

Arperum

@Chippies I really need some IK weapon, or some other mighty weapon that I can use for now.

Sterno

Yeah, I stole a musical one after killing everyone. I'm pretty sure my Snake works for the RIAA to stop people from pirating music.

Chippies

@Arperum if you can get the 2 set bonus of IK, it will keep your fury at max whenever you're in combat

Arperum

@Chippies Nope, they can't keep up.

Chippies

well, the weapon passive still helps in some cases though

two bugs

13:12

@Sterno Reading your thing, you keep getting surprised by guards. Are you marking?

Chippies

especially at rift guardians

two bugs

Well, marking guards is overkill. Are you tagging them at least?

Arperum

Especially if I dare to use rend.

Chippies

as a barb, most of my fury gen comes from standing on damage pools, lol

two bugs

If you focus on them with your binoculars they'll be "tagged" and you can see their location if you stop moving for a moment

That is EXTREMELY helpful

Lazers 2.0

13:13

0

Q: Can I transfer games from a PS4 to my PS3?

I want to transfer COD: Black Ops II from my brothers PS4 to my PS3, it isn't a game that has been purchased in the PS Store but has been played via game disk. Is this possible? I don't want to go out and buy a game when I can get it for free... I know HOW to do it but I want to know whether I ...

ps3 ps4

Arperum

@Chippies Lol

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My usual routine is 1) find a spot overlooking where I need to sneak into 2) tag a bunch of guards with binocs 3) figure out a safe path

Sterno

I'm sad I missed this Kickstarter: kickstarter.com/projects/montecookgames/…

@twobugs I mark at least SOME of the guards. :)

I also have a bad habit of belly flopping while walking, due to hitting the wrong button

and by mark I mean tag

Part of the issue is that I didn't want to sneak by them. I wanted to knock every single one of them out.

Like a boss.

djsmiley2k

'I wonder if maybe I'm working for the RIAA and it's my job to recover and destroy bootleg mix tapes.'

that is classic...

two bugs

Well, to be fair, this is probably one of the hardest MGS games to start on because the guards have way better AI, sight, and hearing

@Sterno This sounds incredibly awesome

Chippies

13:20

@Arperum just finished T10 rift. Died many times, but it seems very viable if I level BotH to have higher gold drop chance

Arperum

@Chippies With goldwrap?

Chippies

@Arperum yeah

my damage is high enough for it

I just didn't have enough gold drops to keep the goldwraps buff up all the time

and stuff hits like a ton of bricks on T10

Arperum

@Chippies I got OHKO'd during a T6 fight with the soul of evil. He summoned siegebreaker, who picked me up and smashed me kinda hard into the ground.

The one T7 rift I did was also accompanied with a lot of damage.

Chippies

@Arperum oh I'm facerolling T6 for the most part without goldwraps

but I have over 50% base dodge and up to 75% with short buffs

the best part is that you can actually dodge freeze

Arperum

@Chippies For the rest I completely faceroll T6 too. but T7 was kinda painfull, might be better with current setup.

Chippies

13:24

T7 is a fairly big jump from T6

StrixVaria

I still struggle with T3. Responsibility has made it so hard to find time to play.

Chippies

with my build, I dodge a lot of stuff, because I'm invincible when I use seven sided strike

Arperum

@Chippies Freeze is only damage, Wrath of the Berserker stops all crowd control.

Chippies

@Arperum I got epiphany for that as well

it actually took me a while to figure out why I wasn't getting frozen

then I realized I'm most likely just dodging it

Kevin van der Velden

@StrixVaria responsibillity is the worst, I avoid it almost as much as I avoid work

badp

13:26

Responsibility harms you and those around you

Chippies

@StrixVaria oddly enough, I never really struggled with anything up to T4 from the moment I hit 70

I ran for a bit on normal, then I went up to torment and was surprised how easy it was, then I went up all the way to T4 where I was pretty comfy, once I got the 2 set bonus that increases generator dmg

I ran a lot on T1/T2 though, because it was just much faster than T4

Sterno

TIL the only thing worse than coming into a code base with no unit tests is coming into a project that has unit tests that have not been maintained, so that 75% of them are failing for various reasons

However, I can get from that state to "no unit tests" with the application of the delete key!

@StrixVaria NEVER HAVE A SECOND ONE

badp

that sounds grossly inefficient

Sterno

(actually, do it, it's pretty cool)

but that first year is the worst

badp

git rm -r tests/

Texenox

13:30

HEY GUESS WHAT

badp

You got married

Texenox

GUESS

no

badp

Congratulations!

Who's the lucky bride?

Texenox

I did not get married.

badp

It's a figure of speech, naturally.

Texenox

13:30

Oh, piss off...

Kevin van der Velden

(It's not actually a figure of speech)

Texenox

Anyways.

badp

@KevinvanderVelden I guess it comes down to the specific case.

Texenox

No, I was going to say that I unboxed my first ever Unusual in TF2.

badp

screenshot

Texenox

13:32

steamcommunity.com/id/RightHurrr/inventory/#440_2_4095914888

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Is it worth a significant amount of money?

Texenox

I assume so.

I think it's the second of its kind.

two bugs

So it's either the good kind of priceless or the bad kind

Texenox

I'd say since it's new it goes for quite a bit.

Wipqozn

i hate it when something works on the test serer, but not on production.

I blame @Sterno.

Sterno

13:35

@Wipqozn I blame your lack of unit tests

Texenox

And now I have to go.

Bye.

fredley

@Texenox Shouldn't you be in school?

two bugs

Congrats on the hat

@fredley I'd take the day off if I got an unusual hat.

fredley

@twobugs I'd take the hat off you

two bugs

You'd have to pry my vintage TF2 hats out of my cold, dead hands.

djsmiley2k

13:40

I don't understand the hand thing D:

/me feels newb

hat thing D:

MadMAxJr

Hats allow unique individuality on TF2 servers. Rare hats = more unique = I'm more awesome = I'm showing off my hat and not playing the objective.

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From my understanding it's just a super rare hat

The "Unusual" modifier is VERY rare, so Texenox getting one is very lucky (and potentially worth $$$$, if he decides to sell it)

badp

@djsmiley2k Basically hats are a proxy for experience in the game

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Also @Texenox: you should probably make sure your Steam account is as secure as possible (you probably already did that)

Jason Berkan

@Sterno I second this sentiment.

badp

13:45

You start with no hats. Every couple months you get a free random hat.

Over time your hat selection improves, and after a couple years you probably have at least one hat per class even if you never traded at all, and maybe you start opening crates, and maybe you get lucky.

So, say, if a ~~moron~~ medic in a hurry on a pub needs to choose who to uber, with everything else being equal, chances are he'll trust the person with the better hat.

#popitdontdropit

djsmiley2k

@twobugs how much are we actually talking?

badp

@djsmiley2k the jackpot is at about $10k

djsmiley2k

wow nice

but very very rare?

badp

well yes it's the jackpot

burning flames team captain IIRC

djsmiley2k

how rare we talking?

how many hats / players?

MBraedley

13:49

> g++: '-V' must come at the start of the command line

badp

I'm talking about the specific unusual-combination effect

MBraedley

Really?

badp

dunno how many exist

you would have to check on backpack.tf

backpack.tf/stats/Unusual/Team%20Captain/Tradable/Craftable/13

Apparently 6 exist? That sounds a little too low.

but I dunno.

5pike

MBraedley

14:09

BB-8 toy from Sphero

GodEmperorDune

> You've earned the "cast super downvotes" privilege! Learn more about it in the help center.

4

man, fallout-shelter is a rep machine

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It got me two gold badges, which is good enough for me. I didn't get too much rep out of it, though.

djsmiley2k

that's soooo simple, but sooooo cool!

GodEmperorDune

it's gotten me over 1k rep, plus a gold and some silvers

djsmiley2k

i guess the head is held on by a magnet

@twobugs theres two unanswered questions

Lazers 2.0

14:23

0

Q: Which weapons count as a shotgun in Fallout Shelter?

I've got this objective: Equip 2 Dwellers with a Shotgun I tried equipping with Enhanced Sawed-Off Shotgun, Sawed-Off Shotgun and Rusty Combat Shotgun, but none of those work. For the Equip n Dwellers with a weapon objectives, it's enough to switch out the weapon for a fists and back to the...

fallout-shelter

0

Q: What determines a shelter's score?

There's a few leaderboards for Fallout Shelter - one of them is for "score." How is that score calculated?

fallout-shelter

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@djsmiley2k Well, I also haven't played since iOS release so I imagine a lot of my knowledge isn't 100% applicable anymore

I've got some questions about MGS5 though. That should nab me some rep, some badges, and hopefully even answers to my questions :P

MadMAxJr

I did awful rescuing Miller.

The forward base, in and out, no alerts, no kills. The second base. Alert eeverrryone cause the one guy I didn't tag saw me.

two bugs

I got caught up a few times because of the guards just being so much more aware than typical MGS guards

5pike

@MadMAxJr I did alright. Had to reflex-takedown a few guards, but it was an alright rescue.

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It seems like night is just by far the best time to do... almost anything. Visibility on my end hasn't been an issue, but it reduces guard sight and gives you shadows you hide in

MadMAxJr

14:34

The zombie-wraith freaky Cipher soldiers gave me a mild panic.

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@MadMAxJr That was awesome. "Okay, I've rescued Miller... I guess the supernatural stuff was just in the prologue..."

Suddenly THE SKULLS

MadMAxJr

Yeah, I'm hoping there's an explanation for the bullet god.

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The fire demon guy's outfit sort of reminds me of Volgin, but I'm hoping the explanation is way better

And there's that psychic ghost kid, and the giant flaming whale

God, I love Kojima.

MadMAxJr

I didn't expect to spend the first hour of play, crippled. It was hard to watch but it made for good story.

two bugs

I think Kiefer does a good job as Big Boss so far. His voice has the same gravely quality as Hayter's without being quite so cartoony

Kojima has really moved away from cutscenes in a big way, though. I like how much of it feels better integrated with the game (like the radio button vs the old codec calls), but I still miss the old style

MadMAxJr

14:42

I think Kiefer makes a good distinction between Naked/Venomous Snake vs Solid Snake.

I didn't like it at first, but he's growing on me.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How can I recruit the most skilled soldiers?

MGS5 has an expanded base and recruitment mechanic first seen in Peace Walker. As you recruit more people, you can unlock perks and develop new equipment, etc. The naive solution would be to try and recruit anyone and everyone, but there are a few issues with this: Most random soldiers seem t...

mgs-5-the-phantom-pain

0

Q: How do I access Metal Gear V Multiplayer?

I've played the prologue and part of Chapter 1 up to where I get access to the base. When and how do I get to access the multiplayer part where I can raid other players?

mgs-5-the-phantom-pain

two bugs

Kiefer kind of did a bad job in Ground Zeroes, but he's pretty great so far

MadMAxJr

I think I need to go back and play Ground Zeroes more. Apparently there's additional crew for playing that and the side missions

two bugs

He has one awful line in Ground Zeroes... it's supposed to be "she's here?" but it sounds like "sheeesh shears???"

@MadMAxJr Oh really? I nearly 100%'d Ground Zeroes... I should go back and finish that.

Yuuki

@twobugs Metal... Gear?

two bugs

14:54

People criticized Ground Zeroes a lot but I had fun with it. ~10-20 hours if you went for 100%, and it had that cool companion app where you could build a base

Yuuki

Ugh, stop making me want to get MGSV.

two bugs

This is payback for your food-related trolling.

Yuuki

Although I'm pretty sure the Ground Zeroes bundle on Steam is over now that the game is actually out, right?

two bugs

It might be, but I have a copy of Ground Zeroes to gift if you'd like

Since I already own it on Steam

All my friends either own it or hate MGS (and I'm plotting to eliminate them)

Yuuki

@twobugs Curse you...

5pike

15:00

@Yuuki Get it, it's pretty good

Yuuki

I know it's good, I loved Peace Walker and I really enjoyed what I saw of the gameplay on YouTube.

two bugs

Ground Zeroes really blew me away when I first played it. The level of detail on that map is amazing, the ops were very fun, and the gameplay is absolutely the best.

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn @GodEmperorDune Feast of Boris tomorrow!

two bugs

TPP basically takes everything I liked about Ground Zeroes and takes it up several notches

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki who is boris and why are we eating him? (And how? Slathered in bbq sauce? Slowly cooked?)

Yuuki

15:04

> This holiday honors Boris the Beefy, one of the three mighty archetypal elders who helped shape the Kingdom back in the old days (which were way before the days of Yore).

> Boris's capacity for eating was almost as legendary as his capacity for violence. To maintain his barge-like physique, he ate five dozen raw eggs every morning. It's hardly surprising that he died not in battle, but from a combination of clogged arteries and salmonella poisoning. To celebrate his memory, citizens of the Kingdom gorge themselves on food until they can barely move.

Basically, KoL's version of Thanksgiving.

There's also St. Sneaky Pete's Day (St. Patrick's Day) and the Festival of Jarlsberg (doesn't really have a real-world equivalent).

Chippies

The Backwards Brain Bicycle - Smarter Every Day 133

►

this is pretty interesting

Texenox

15:30

@fredley I start school on Monday, so no, not yet.

@twobugs I have.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune Oh my, the barrel lid is great for stat-grinding on Conspiracy Island.

user15026

@yuuki what does Feast of Boris mean in terms of adventuring?

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn Two things.

One, your maximum fullness will increase by 15.

More food, more adventures!

user15026

Hell yes. Eat all the food!

Yuuki

Two, you will randomly encounter wandering Feast of Boris monsters.

These monsters will drop special Feast of Boris foods.

Eat them because they're ~~good~~ awesome quality!

Texenox

15:34

Hey @Ashley.

user15026

@yuuki okay, this is a holiday I can get behind.

Yuuki

St. Sneaky Pete's Day does something similar with Drunkeness.

user15026

I like that approach to holiday festivities

fredley

Yuuki

You don't increase your maximum drink tolerance unfortunately, but you can drink green beers (drop a ten-leaf clover inside a can of beer) even while you're already falling-down drunk.

When you get drunker than 25 drunkenness, your Drunken Stupor adventures are replaced with special St. Sneaky Pete's Day adventures.

user15026

15:37

That sounds awesome.

MadMAxJr

Drink yourself into a new reality.

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