The Bridge

GnomeSlice

19:00

I'm a bad person.

=[

badp

I don't know who linked me to this story, but

> Running this story in reverse it’s suddenly clear why Apple didn’t introduce the iPhone 5 this week. It would have been lost in the news of Jobs’s death, killing the marketing value he would have loved. I’m sure the phone will appear in a week or two with that appearance in part to encourage the recovery of Apple shares from what is sure to be a short-term decline.

Not even I could concoct such a conspiracy theory

"Oh hey it appears Steve is going to die this week, let's put our iPhone 5 plans on hold and make up an iPhone 4S real quick okay?"

GnomeSlice

@badp Maybe he was very ill, and they figured he might die.

badp

@GnomeSlice That's exactly the scenario I'm ridiculing

GnomeSlice

I wonder if I should not download this.

badp

Steve has apparently been expecting himself to die every single day of his life

GnomeSlice

19:04

@badp It's not beyond reason that for the past week[s] He's been deathly ill, and that they were preparing for the worst.

badp

...and make up an entire brand new phone from scratch in just the past few weeks?

GnomeSlice

What do you guys think, is this legit?

badp

What are you smoking?

GnomeSlice

@badp They made a new phone?

badp

The article suggests they had the iPhone 5 ready and instead presented the iPhone 4S because Steve was about to die

GnomeSlice

19:06

@badp Dunno what that is. But weird.

badp

like if that was true when did they have the time to prepare this plan B phone?

GnomeSlice

Maybe he's been dead for quite a while.

Ronan Forman

He never actually quit. Whoooooo!

badp

if I were Steve and that was true I'd curse the new CEO for life

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Doubt it.

GnomeSlice

19:07

@mordi2k =[ Really?

I mean, it's obviously a pirate, but do you think it's a virus or something.

(has never pirated anything before)

I'm a terrible person.

mordi2k

Ya, the torrents are around 465mb

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k What's a .rar though? Compressed?

mordi2k

Compressed file.

GnomeSlice

Oh.

Well, I'm not going to download it anyway, I guess.

@mordi2k How compressed?

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Alema_Rar

mordi2k

19:09

lol

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi ...What am I looking at here?

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice Alema Rar

mordi2k

RAR

RAR stands for Roshal ARchive. It is a proprietary archive file format that supports data compression, error recovery, and file spanning. It was developed by a Russian software engineer, Eugene Roshal (the first letter of his surname contributing to the name of the archive format), and is currently licensed by win.rar GmbH. The filename extension used by RAR is .rar for the data volume set and .rev for the recovery volume set. In previous versions, if a RAR-archive was split into many smaller files (a "multi-volume archive"), the smaller files used the extensions .rar, .r00, .r01, ....

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi I see that. Why?

Oh.

Lazers

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Q: Have RCT3 retail on my PC, bought RCT3: Platinum from Steam. How should I set up?

I've had a retail copy of RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 since it first came out, which was several years ago. It's a great game. I don't play it as regularly as other games, but I still love it. The other day there was a Steam Daily Deal on RCT3: Platinum (RCT3 + Soaked! + Wild!). I went ahead and grab...

GnomeSlice

19:10

Hah. Hah. :/

@mordi2k Could they compress the extra 265 mb with a .rar?

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Touch slow there...

mordi2k

The torrents are also in .rar

GnomeSlice

Guess not then.

I don't like pirating stuff anyway.

mordi2k

So I doubt it's legit.

Ullallulloo

If you're gonna pirate something, just do it right and use the torrent.

GnomeSlice

19:11

Yeah, figured.

(Doesn't know how to torrent)

(Doesn't pirate things)

I only download stuff (mostly music) if there's absolutely no way for me to get it and pay for it.

Because I'm a nice guy.

mordi2k

I pirate games if I want a demo.

Loads of devs have stopped making demos :(

badp

oh lol

> You are editing token-key: DOTA_GoodGuys

clicks Next

mordi2k

@badp lol

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k There's no demo for Greed Corp. =[

badp

> You are editing token-key: DOTA_BadGuys

mordi2k

19:14

@GnomeSlice Then pirate it, if you like it, buy it. If you don't like it, just delete it.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I can't buy it though. So I'd just end up keeping it.

mordi2k

<.<

GnomeSlice

No credit card.

And I want it for PC, not xbox 360

Also 465 mb would take like 2 hours to download, twice if I bought it later.

mordi2k

I still don't understand. Why would you not need/have a credit card!

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k Well, I'm only 19. And I don't really see the point. Plus, I'd probably be irresponsible with it.

Ullallulloo

19:17

@GnomeSlice Debit cards are good at safeguarding against that.

Or prepaid credit cards

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo I have one of those.

Arda Xi

@mordi2k I want a credit card. :(

GnomeSlice

You can't use debit anywhere online though.

mordi2k

You can't?

What's that for a debit card.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Steam?

mordi2k

19:18

Even my debit card works everywhere.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman ...You can use debit with Steam?

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Their site seems to say so...

Arda Xi

@mordi2k I can't, no. Not allowed to take out a loan until I'm 18.

Ronan Forman

Yup, my bro does all the time.

GnomeSlice

This computer doesn't have steam anyway.

Arda Xi

19:19

@GnomeSlice Not necessarily.

GnomeSlice

Lol.

And my other one sucks.

mordi2k

@ArdaXi I can send you my canceled credit card.

GnomeSlice

I didn't think you could use debit anywhere online.

mordi2k

@ArdaXi Ah, fair enough.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice You can't.

GnomeSlice

19:19

@ArdaXi That's what I thought.

mordi2k

@ArdaXi Depends on the debit card.

Arda Xi

Except some cards, especially American ones pretend to be a credit card online.

GnomeSlice

Doubtful, for mine.

Ullallulloo

Or PayPal works.

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo Don't you need a credit card for that.

Ullallulloo

19:20

@GnomeSlice I don't think so.

I have no experience with any of this though.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice I have PayPal.

Bound to my debit card.

GnomeSlice

Then... how does it work?

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Err... automatische incasso.

Direct debit.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Yeah, I don't speak whatever language that is.

mordi2k

Lol

Arda Xi

19:21

@GnomeSlice I translated it already.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Bank > Debit > PayPal > Steam ?

mordi2k

You and your weird debit cards.

Arda Xi

You can also just transfer money to PayPal manually.

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo I didn't understand that.

mordi2k

Steam sends a request to paypal, paypal sends a request to your bank.

Or something like that.

Arda Xi

19:23

@GnomeSlice From your bank, you use your debit account to transfer money to PayPal who transfer money to Steam.

GnomeSlice

@ArdaXi Complicated. I have to go to a bank to do that?

Pfffft.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice I'd hope not.

mordi2k

Internetbank?

GnomeSlice

Also, there's no point buying it on Steam, my steam PC sucks.

Arda Xi

Depends on your bank though.

GnomeSlice

19:24

@mordi2k (Don't know how)

mordi2k

<.<

Ronan Forman

Urg I've got this song in my head!

escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/miracle-of-sound/…

GnomeSlice

I might be able to figure it out.

Marco Ceppi

Bitcoins?

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi Lol I know nothing about those.

Arda Xi

19:24

@MarcoCeppi Oh god no.

mordi2k

@MarcoCeppi Hands up for that suggestion.

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice Internet Monies

GnomeSlice

@MarcoCeppi I know that. I mean I don't know anything about how they work or are used or what have you.

Arda Xi

That's not entirely accurate.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Get someone to buy it for you, then give / transfer money to h*m ? :p

Arda Xi

19:25

It's not a currency, it's a commodity.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k That's what usually ends up happening.

Marco Ceppi

@ArdaXi I said monies :D

Arda Xi

Monies = currency.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Sounds like one heck of a hassle.

Arda Xi

Bitcoin =/= currency.

GnomeSlice

19:26

@mordi2k Actually no, that's only happened once.

For Minecraft.

Marco Ceppi

@ArdaXi Define currency?

Arda Xi

Can't right now, despite "reasonably stable"

GnomeSlice

I don't game much on the PC. I buy MS points cards for XBLA downloadable titles.

Bitcoin just strikes me as a bad idea overall.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice I'm disappointed. PC is pure love.

Arda Xi

It is.

Ullallulloo

19:27

I save up gift cards from obscure websites to get stuff for free.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I've never really been allowed to. Plus the PC I'm allowed to game on now blows.

Ronan Forman

Currency is a standard of money, money is a contract of worth => Bitcoin = Currency.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Save up for a new one!

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I did. My parents paid for half of my fancy laptop for school, so I'm not allowed to game on it.

Not that that really stops me, but I don't have Steam on it.

Marco Ceppi

@RonanForman Couldn't have explained it better

mordi2k

19:28

@GnomeSlice o.o

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k They control all of my stuff.

Marco Ceppi

Sure it may not be widely accepted, but it's a currency

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice But, you're 19. You should have control of all your stuff.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k Gee, I hadn't thought of that. :P

You really have no idea.

I'm lucky my father disabled his router cutoff to my devices while my parents are away on vacation.

It generally cuts me off at 11:00.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Nope, I really don't. Been on my own since I was 15.

GnomeSlice

19:30

Sigh

I need to move out.

Marco Ceppi

@GnomeSlice You need to move out <3

GnomeSlice

I don't drive because of Tourettes. I don't work because I live in the middle of nowhere, and don't drive. I don't have the money to move out because I don't work. Vicious circle.

Marco Ceppi

That is a rough circle. You shouldn't move out.

GnomeSlice

x_x

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Move to a big city, get a job, ????, profit

Ronan Forman

19:31

@GnomeSlice Work from home?

GnomeSlice

My parents are all 'yeah, we're gonna pull you out of your college because we don't think you can do it'

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice WTF

GnomeSlice

And all 'I'm gonna send you to the military'

So you can learn to get up on time.

@RonanForman doing what?

I'm what you call 'unskilled labour'.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Web/Game development?

Ronan Forman

Details, details.

GnomeSlice

19:32

@mordi2k Lol... I'm terrible at those.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice You can learn, you got the best information of them all, INTERNET.

GnomeSlice

I'm retaking my web development course this term because I got a D last term.

Granted, that's partly because I was deeply involved in a really shitty thing with a girl who was just using me

@mordi2k I'm studying media and stuff.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Sounds horrible.

GnomeSlice

But I suck at it.

4 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

You really have no idea.

mordi2k

Do you like it?

GnomeSlice

19:33

I'm still taking the antidepressants.

@mordi2k Yes and no. I'm no good at it.

And I find some of the mediums very tedious.

I'm not good at coding at all.

mordi2k

Well, if you like it. You should just keep working harder on it.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I don't know how to work hard. That's my biggest problem. It sounds stupid, but yeah.

mordi2k

You can get all those skills, what you can't get is lust to do something you hate.

GnomeSlice

I never had to work at all until like grade 12.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice Neither am I. And yet I'm up for an interview somewhere next week doing exactly that.

You learn by doing.

GnomeSlice

19:35

@mordi2k I do like doing some aspects of it. 'Multimedia' covers a huge range of stuff.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Then you should really move out, and get a job. So you can get some practice at it.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I know. But I don't have the money to move out because I don't work.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Then focus on the things you like.

GnomeSlice

I would bus, but it's a good 15-20 minute drive to the nearest bust station.

@mordi2k That's not how the program works.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Can't you get some financial aid?

GnomeSlice

19:36

@mordi2k From?

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Screw the program!

GnomeSlice

Also, I don't know how to do new things. Getting work is a new thing for me. I dunno how to do that shit.

@mordi2k :/ But... college.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Government? I don't really know how your country works in regards to that.

GnomeSlice

It's only a 2 year program, that basically teaches students how to use a huge variety of software.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice There's a first time for everything.

GnomeSlice

19:37

As well as some actionscript, html, and some other networking codings.

badp

@GraceNote in a MOBA do you have any idea of what a "buy back cost" is?

I imagine it means "if you combine/destroy/sell this item, buying it back would cost this much" but perhaps I'm mistaken

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I'm considering moving to perth. One of my friends said he would be willing to pay my first month's rent so I could find a job there.

But how do I look for a job somewhere I'm not right now.

mordi2k

@badp After you die, you can resurrect immediately, buy spending some of your gold.

Grace Note

@badp Context of phrase?

badp

DOTA 2.

I have no context

"Current buy back cost is: %s1\n"

mordi2k

19:38

@GnomeSlice Internet.

badp

@mordi2k Oh, that would also make sense

Grace Note

DotA, then @mordi2k's probably got it right

The original DotA had buy-back in that fashion

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k That's like, impossible. I also need the address, lol. How do I apply for one anyway though, when I can't guarantee that I'll actually end up moving there.

I don't have the life skills to live on my own.

My parents basically sheltered the shit out of me.

My mother to the point that almost every day is a huge screaming competition because I'm 'not taking advantage of all of the tools I could be' or something.

I don't have freaking down syndrome.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice You can address companies, that you are moving there, and looking for a job. And if you really just need a job to pay the bills, you always got the minimum wage jobs.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k So what if they say, sure, and then my parents decide not to let me move.

Derp

Ronan Forman

19:41

@GnomeSlice What country do you live in?

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice It's not really their choice.

GnomeSlice

Canada. I live in Ottawa.

@mordi2k Yeah, well, tell them that.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice You're legally an adult, and can do "whatever" you want.

GnomeSlice

TO be fair, they're just doing what they think is the best for me. Really. They just go about it the wrong way.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice They can't force you to stay.

GnomeSlice

19:42

@mordi2k Yeah, they always tell me that they can kick me out whenever they want to.

Then they're like 'oh you can't live on your own'

@mordi2k I know, but the thing is I can't live on my own

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Have you ever tried?

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k Well, they're away for a week, currently.

I mean my sister is here.

Ronan Forman

From the age of 16 you are legally allowed to leave the country without your parents permission.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice That doesn't really count. As you know they are coming back to take care of you.

GnomeSlice

But I can't do anything. I can't get up on time, I can't always keep track of my time, I can't cook anything, I don't know how any money things work

mordi2k

19:44

@GnomeSlice The only way you can find out if you can do it. Is to try.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k So? It's about how I manage on my own.

@mordi2k I know, and I want to. It's not that simple.

I don't know how to do anything new for myself.

Moving, working are both new, and pretty big things.

Ronan Forman

Start small, don't let your parents cook for you. Try that on your own (with help)

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice I used to be like that, until I actually had to take care of myself.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman Yeah. I make microwaveable shit, lol.

I can make Grilled Cheese, Kraft Dinner, and Microwaveable things.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Seriously the first step if the hardest.

GnomeSlice

19:46

That's about it.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Fast food. :d

mordi2k

You really just have to try.

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo I know, but if I'm only going to be making enough money for my rent then that's kind of out.

@mordi2k I know. I don't know where to start.

And I really can't get up on time.

Ronan Forman

Do you have eggs, onions and oil in the house? Make an omelette!

GnomeSlice

Probably because I have such shitty sleeping habits.

Ullallulloo

19:47

@GnomeSlice Alarm clock?

Brant

Cooking is easy, really. Until the recent availability of readymade foods, everyone cooked. Not a big deal.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Get night shifts at a gas station then?

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo Yeah, I have like 5.

My mother flipped out and bought this fucking loud one, and yells at me for hours if I turn it down.

It doesn't help.

mordi2k

Lol

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Are they all within arms reach of your bed?

GnomeSlice

19:48

I can wake up, but I can't STAY up. I have no energy at all for hours in the morning.

@RonanForman No.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice COFFEE

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k Ew.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice You'll get used to it.

GnomeSlice

Like, to the point where I feel sick if I stand, or move at all.

Ronan Forman

Tea

Marco Ceppi

19:49

four loco?

GnomeSlice

It's just... I have a lot of issues.

Ullallulloo

I'm kind of the same way, The big thing for me is to just move enough to really break my sleep, like sitting up a bit.

GnomeSlice

I used to have trouble getting to sleep, like turning my brain off, and that's what caused my to not sleep until like 4 am.

But in the past few weeks, it's gotten way out of hand.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Have you talked to your doctor/shrink or something about it?

Maybe they can help.

GnomeSlice

It's not that any more. My neck gets incredibly sore, I can't get comfortable at all.

@mordi2k My mother made me go see a shrink that was supposed to be for her.

Anyway, they diagnosed me with depression and stuff.

That's about it.

mordi2k

19:51

@GnomeSlice You really have to sort that out first then, it's hard to do ANYTHING with depression.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I'm alright now. That was the big thing a while ago.

Lol, I didn't even have to do the second 'real' part of the depression test.

Apparently I like maxed out the preliminary. :P

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Ah. Well, try to see a doctor then, and explain your situation.

They might be able to help you.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k It's not that simple.

I've seen countless people.

I don't know WHAT the hell is going on with my sleep recently. It's actually painful for me to lie in most positions. Never used to be like that.

I stayed home from school today because I didn't get any sleep last night

It's just... a lot of things that I don't know what to do about.

mordi2k

The doctors didn't find anything wrong with you?

No offense :p

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k I did a sleep test at a hospital a few months ago. I thought I hadn't slept at all, but apparently I got like 20 minutes which was enough. I was fine.

mordi2k

19:56

@GnomeSlice You should just keep whining on them. There's obviously something wrong, when you can't get any sleep because of pain.

GnomeSlice

@mordi2k Well, that's new.

The tourettes probably causes that.

All or most of my tics center around 'cracking' joints, most painfully in my knuckles, jaw, and necl

neck*

I have a chiropractor because of the Neck one.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice That's a thing, its just as bad as insomnia.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman I mean we were trying to see if I got the right kind of sleep

Because I never wake up feeling rested at all

Like I said before, even after a full night's sleep, I have so little energy in the morning that I feel sick if I stand or move at all

Ronan Forman

If you wake up in sleep stage 4/5 that happens

GnomeSlice

And my parents are all like 'don't lie, you're saying that if the house was on fire, ou wouldn't get up?'

@RonanForman Yes, but the sleep test apparently confirmed that I sleep normally.

Ronan Forman

19:59

Work out your cycle and plan properly.

mordi2k

@GnomeSlice Sounds similar to CFS

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman cycle? Like a nighttime routine?

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