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00:07
well shit, steve jobs died
@Wipqozn Holy shit, seriously?
@FallenAngelEyes yeah
@FallenAngelEyes apple.com
That page tells the reality really
It's really good of the company to dedicated their entire home page to that - most wouldn't
@SimonSheehan Agreed.
I'm not that surprised
And i know there's a lot of people who are going to take this moment and say how much they hate apple
00:12
his resignation was rather unusual
but I think we need to view this as the passing of someone, not a company. Someone who really changed the way technology is used in this world.
Well it's not entirely unexpected tbh
@SimonSheehan Exactly.
Indeed, he has been ill for a long time.
with his whole secret liver transplant and stuff
00:13
@SimonSheehan I'm not a fan of Apple, but there is one thing they've done: given microsoft competition.
I'm not big on Apple but you can't deny their impact on the industry
They gave us choice.
@SimonSheehan Exactly.
Sure they haven't always been the best, and sometimes they do things not everyone likes
But neither does microsoft. Neither do linux distro's
I prefer Linux myself, but even then. Most programs wouldn't work on linux, or you would need to struggle with wine. So you were forced to use windows.
00:15
Apple offered innovative products that really changed how we used our Computers, Phones, Tablets, and Music Listening devices. And behind that was this man. We can't just see it as the company that made a lot of money.
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I agree @Simon.
Thank you @Wipqozn.
I totally agree, @SimonSheehan.
I know a lot of people will get after apple since they release an upgraded version every month but... so? Every company does that. Apple is worse then most, I agree, but that's just because some people will buy every new model released. So why wouldn't they do it?
I don't have a problem with Apple so much as their rabid fanboys
00:17
@FallenAngelEyes Agreed.
By the way, my comments are coming from a person who doesn't own any apple product but an iPod.
also an ex of mine turned into a Mac Evangelist and drove me insane
@SimonSheehan I owned an iPod at one point, although I prefer other music devices.
@FallenAngelEyes I assume that's why you dumped him (her?)?
I've never owned an MP3 player
@Wipqozn No, actually he dumped me after he cheated on me
Though I didn't find out about the cheating til like 6 months later
@FallenAngelEyes well now I feel like an asshole
00:18
lol
Well not really, but it was a nice thing to say
(144, -148) → (18, -18)
\o/
In the meantime I've reached the point where I have to make a large scale map - docs.google.com/drawings/d/…
Yes, I'm using a name generator for those villages
I have pretty dutch names for stuff I didn't use a name generator of
such as 'West Stronghold' or 'North Forest'
argh
LoL queueing seems to be fucking up
@FallenAngelEyes oh my, and here I got all concerned thinking you had an actual problem
Gotta love first world problems <3
Indeed :P
@Powerlord that was rather excellent
Steve Jobs died!?
You're rather excellent.
Woah WHAT
@Mana Thank you.
JESUS
01:12
1 hour ago, by Wipqozn
well shit, steve jobs died
1 hour ago, by Simon Sheehan
@FallenAngelEyes http://www.apple.com/
Wow.
59 mins ago, by Simon Sheehan
Apple offered innovative products that really changed how we used our Computers, Phones, Tablets, and Music Listening devices. And behind that was this man. We can't just see it as the company that made a lot of money.
I wonder if Yahtzee will review RAGE soon.
@Powerlord I imagine he will.
Probably next week
although there is dark souls. He might do that.
I assume it would be exactly the same as the demons souls review
fuck this game
Do want, Dark Souls.
01:21
Wow, okay. Time for me to put on the most depressing album I can find.
@mordi2k Most enjoyable.
Haven't been able to play it much though..
And go through all these Steve Jobs articles. This is going to be emotional.
planning to just play it like crazy tomorrow
@Wipqozn Get lost, you and your US release dates!!
01:22
Just got a wrong number text.
@GnomeSlice No, come on.
@Mana Well, it's sad.
ish.
@Mana Definitely linked me this with a different image.
Maybe that was someone else.
@GnomeSlice No, I did
01:24
@Mana
Thought so.
But that's the song I'm putting on, yo.
@Wipqozn Wrong kind of sad.
or this @Mana
@Wipqozn Slightly more appropriate.
I was sort of thinking something like this though:
Sad, but hopeful.
01:27
@GnomeSlice sounds a bit like dwarf fortress
oh my god Ambulance driving by right as Bear ends
that is dumb
@Mana Oh geez.
@GnomeSlice To be fair I hear at least two ambulances going by pretty much every night now
@GnomeSlice also, I find that to be a rather uplifting and happy song.
01:28
Because Toronto at night is a very sketchy place sometimes.
Also because people are dumb.
@Wipqozn That's the point.
> "Remembering that I'll be dead soon is the most important tool I've ever encountered to help me make the big choices in life. Because almost everything — all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure - these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important.
> Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart.
@GnomeSlice Except @Mana was looking for the most depressing song he could find
@Wipqozn Notice the lack of @Mana in my post.
Well, I can't go for just one Antlers song. I have to loop the entirety of Hospice.
01:30
@GnomeSlice except my videos were directed at @Mana
And fine.
@Wipqozn Good for you.
Either way though, it is a nice video @GnomeSlice
wooooah
HOSTILITY
@Mana He's just angry because I won.
@Wipqozn You won what? My video was an expression of my own emotions, not @Mana's.
01:33
8 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
@Wipqozn Wrong kind of sad.
7 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
@Wipqozn Slightly more appropriate.
7 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
I was sort of thinking something like this though:
@GnomeSlice My videos were directed at mana, and your comments indicate I chose wrong videos for mana and that your one was more appropriate.
@Wipqozn No. Sorry. "I was sort of thinking something like this" means 'this is what my own emotional response is'.
@GnomeSlice Yes, I realize that now.
but I'm competitive, and hate losing. Therefore I simply could not let this die.
MAY THE PATH TO VICTORY BE BUILT UPON THE CORPSES OF MY ENEMIES!
Can you stop.
Steve Jobs is dead.
I don't really give a shit who wins.
My apologies. I was unaware you were that upset over his passing.
@GnomeSlice Literally?!? How did I not hear about that!?!
01:38
@John Me neither.
@Wipqozn I'm not bawling my eyes out, but I mean... a man is dead...
yeah, okay.
I'm heading to bed. Good night all.
@Wipqozn Good Night.
Sleep tight.
Don't let @GnomeSlice bite.
ಠ_ಠ
RIP, Steve Jobs.
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Indeed, RIP
01:44
he died?
gg
As much antipathy I have for Apple, Steve had a vision and the means to achieve it, and that's always conductive to awesomeness. As much as I disliked that awesomeness.
now, back to the passive apple hating
I just got an Xbox 360 controller on ebay. Would a question asking whether it's genuine or counterfit be appropriate on gaming stack exchange?
Probably.
Sweet, thanks.
01:49
Yeah, I'd say that's on-topic.
Now to write down lots of details
I WILL PERSONALLY DEFEND YOU @daxelrod IF THEY CLOSE IT
Everytime I look over to my side bar, I always see @Mana yelling about something.
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@MarcoCeppi What can I say? I LIKE SHOUTING.
Mana: with your capslock and my lack of good looks, we'll take over this place.
01:51
@daxelrod An image might be beneficial.
Yes, I'll try to include several
@daxelrod So, about that taking over the place thing...uhm...
I'm kind of a moderator
:D
@Mana But not the only moderator.
(that was the joke, yes)
oh.
01:52
:)
oh....
:(
Oh no, I made Mana sad! I'm sorry my delivery wasn't better!
No worries. There are other factors influencing my emotions.
Like me, no doubt.
Mana, if that joke was a pizza, I'd give it to you for free.
I think my sense of humor is broken, my puns are worse than usual
01:55
So, what's your story, daxelrod? I don't see you around here often. Who are you? Tell me more about you.
That's because I only actually came over from Stack Overflow a few minutes ago :)
I see!
Wow. The ultimate technology memorial: a banner on Stack Overflow.
whoa
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Q: Can we get an option to hide system messages?

NullUserException இ_இ Possible Duplicate: Please enhance the behavior of the system-message bar I am not mentally retarded. If I have seen a message once, it's enough. There is no need to keep displaying something that only pollutes the UI since it can't be dismissed. Can we at please get an option to hi...

02:00
@badp I didn't say there was anything bad about it...
eh, just linking to the relevant meta discussion
ugh, this topic has infected every room
@badp I misunderstood the answer link as you defending a topic I hadn't attacked. All good now.
@MarcoCeppi Well, he was kinda popular...
I didn't vote for him
@MarcoCeppi Steve Jobs? When would people have been voting for him?
02:02
@MarcoCeppi I am going to actively seek out all the rooms which don't have this topic and make sure they have them.
I missed an election if there was one...
@Mana NNOOOOOOO
Let's see, I'm a geek who writes software for a living. I love graphic design, HCI, comparative religion, and overintellectualizing everything. I enjoy games, although I'm consistently pretty bad at them. My wife is an opera singer, health nut, and Dreamcast owner. What about you, Mana?
@John I was being sarcastic. I'm not a user of Apple products - and kind of dislike Steve Job's "contributions" to technology
okay, let's change topic at least here
for those who wish to continue
02:04
@MarcoCeppi I'm in the same boat. I guess it kinda comes with the Ubuntu mindset. Just wasn't sure because sarcasm is hard to detect when it's written.
@daxelrod Awesome! I'm a second year comp sci student. I play games somewhat competitively and made some money playing Smash Bros. but it's not a huge part of my life. I like a lot of different things, like art, drumming, programming, and writing. As a result I kind of suck at everything but that's alright.
I have a college buddy who plays Smash competitvely. Do you go by Mana in the Smash scene?
@daxelrod (PROTIP: if you want a quick(er) reponse, add "@" in front of names like "@Mana")
I'm a person that's about to go to bed already. Nite
COOL!
02:06
@badp Good night.
@daxelrod No, god no. I wish I was that guy but I'm not. I went under the name SecretofMana.
and I placed in like nothing except some local Toronto tournies.
@Mana I have lot of respect for drummers. I have a horrible sense of rhythm
@John Yup, it's hard to see his products are revolutionizing technology when so little is given back to the community he built his empire on.
@MarcoCeppi weren't you the first who wanted the topic changed?
02:12
Cyberskull just added a tag wiki for Secret of Mana.
Take my respect. TAKE ALL OF IT. CYBERSKUUUULL
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A: What are the conditions and effects of grabbing a suppressed enemy?

01d55Suppression does not prevent move-block abilities from having their normal effect. Malzahar's ultimate has a leash range, it is possible to cancel a friendly Malzahar's ultimate by pulling the target out of leash range. If your move block does not place the victim outside of leash range, Malzaha...

Solid first post. Would recommend voting up.
@daxelrod I used to have no rhythm too, actually. Then I uh started drumming. And I was really awful but I decided to not be embarrassed and keep with it. And now I still kind of suck but I have a much better sense of rhythm.
I'd never actually seen the music video for this before. That was unsettling.
Wow, the NerfNow guy has a very thick accent.
@GnomeSlice Classic song. Excellent progression.
02:18
Bah, no Visio on my home machine
@Mana I agree. It's pretty powerful.
And Microsoft, fix your damn MSDN site
@Powerlord has the MDSN site ever worked correctly?
@daxelrod Yes
On an unrelated subject:
@daxelrod It has worked fine the few times I used it!
02:44
...How the hell do I update Cardinal Quest for windows?
...Maybe it has something to do with that Adobe air thing that kept popping up.
All right, question is posted here: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/31760/… although no pictures yet
@daxelrod The hologram is suspicious, but wired controllers aren't particularly uncommon.
I wanted a wired controller, the suspicious part is that there's no inline release
and the wire is 7 feet long
@daxelrod There are official controllers with a permanently attached cable. No idea how long they are though.
@GnomeSlice Oh, that's good to know
02:48
|Power= Nickel-metal hydride battery; 2 × AA; USB host powered |connectivity=Wireless (proprietary 2.4 GHz protocol), USB, 2.5 mm headset jack |input= *2× Analog sticks *2× Analog triggers *11× Digital buttons (wireless controller features additional button for syncing purposes) *Digital D-Pad |weight=Wireless version (with batteries): 256 g / 9.35 oz Wired version: 281 g / 9.88 oz |dimensions=Controller:155 × 110 × 55 mm6.1 × 4.33 × 2.17 inCable (wired version):2.7 m / 9...
The wireless ones are the ones with the releases.
I have a grey wired one with a release
Wait, how would there even be a release if it's wireless?
@daxelrod You can plug the cable in to the wireless controller to charge it if you have a rechargeable battery pak in it.
You can even leave it plugged in, if you want.
Ah, ok. Just to be clear, I'm talking about services.support.microsoft.com/library/images/support/…
Seriously microsoft, fix your dang MIME types
@daxelrod ...I'm not sure I'm seeing what you're seeing.
Lol at that "picture"
02:52
Look on http://support.microsoft.com/kb/907634 for "Inline cable release"
"
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Q: Is my Xbox 360 controller counterfeit?

daxelrodI recently bought a Wired Xbox 360 controller from Ebay, and I'm trying to figure out whether it's counterfeit. It's two-tone black and gray, which according to Wikipedia means it's probably the Elite edition of the controller. Here's what makes me suspicous: There's no inline cable release, ...

@daxelrod Can't find it. I assume you're talking about the slot on the top, though.
@GnomeSlice How could you not find it? :(
No, I'm talking about a piece near the USB end that pulls out if you pull on the cord
@mordi2k I'm an idiot.
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@daxelrod Oh, a breakaway cable?
02:54
Yes.
I didn't know you could get those.
I'll add that to the description
STARS LIST... Y U ALWAYS DO DIS TO ME. ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)
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Should pin it as well
I hate you people.
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@mordi2k I still can't figure out how to update my copy of Cardinal Quest. I'm retrying the original download link; maybe it's been updated.
Oh, the filename is different. cq1.1b rather than cq1.1. Good sign.
03:01
Yeah, the original download link should contain the updated version. I somehow forgot to tell you that.
Why the hell does it need 768 mb of RAM?
Also, why does the demo run so much smoother?
Wow, that's the opposite of what I'd expect a demo to do
I would guess poor optimization.
Maybe it just plays better embedded in a web page.
@GnomeSlice That made sense.
03:03
And I can't find the changelog again.
Blargh
@mordi2k It... it did?
Irony...
I really have no idea how this stuff works.
@GnomeSlice you can probably find out what version of Standalone Flash Player the full version is using
Posted by Joel Spolsky on October 5th, 2011

I want to say a word about why we felt it was so important to honor Steve Jobs with a special system-wide message on Stack Overflow, a site for programmers, as well as our Apple-specific site, AskDifferent.

Remember, for a moment, the first Macintosh. A brilliant computer, but we programmers looked at it and said… wait! It’s not expandable! It has inadequate memory! You have to change the floppy disk every ten seconds! How on earth can you run Serious Programs on this thing? Even then, Steve didn’t give a hoot about your needs as nerdy computer geeks. He was trying to make a  …

You can probably actually extract the SWF and run it in your browser against your latest flash plugin
.... sorry?
Yeah, I don't understand that changelog at all.
I guess thats the changelog for the linux version.
@GnomeSlice were you telling me to cut something out?
@daxelrod No. I was raging at whomever is adding those stars.
03:07
Right side filled with random quotes from @GnomeSlice
I kind of wonder how Cardinal Quest was released?
It's atrociously buggy. =[
Needed some funding maybe?
@mordi2k Nope.
o.o
Bad coder then.
03:10
Damn you!
I just don't understand it.
Why am I still up at this time?
ENGAGING CONVERSATION
But, I have to be at work in 3 hours!
Oh, crap. Then get some sleep!
03:13
Too late for that, I'll be fucked up anyways.
@mordi2k Story of my life.
Can whoever is doing that please stop starring everything even remotely offensive posted in chat?
Thank you. =]
Sorry, starring @mordi2k was my fault, the other stars aren't mine
@daxelrod Bah, those ones are okay. Figured it were you, since there was only three of us. :P
Hi just came to star the post of @GnomeSlice saying he's an idiot. Bye.
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Haha
03:16
...
ಠ_ಠ
That's cute, I was going to take pictures of my Xbox 360 controllers (wireless, not wired), but my phone refuses to transfer files to my PC despite having a USB connection.
P.S. I hate you, Verizon.
Anyone tried out RAGE yet?
ಥ_ಥ
@Powerlord Upload to facbook. Download. Delete from facebook.
Or email them to yourself?
03:23
@mordi2k "Every time you email something to yourself, Tim Berners-Lee sheds a single tear."
Then he has cried me a river.
That is a fantastic quote, do you have a source?
@daxelrod xkcd.
It's the alt text of one of the comics. I forget which one. It was linked in here a while ago.
Also, my quote was a bit off, it seems.
03:28
stabs Verizon and Samsung
I can't transfer files from my phone's internal memory, only from a MicroSD card if I have one installed.
I stick to my suggestion.
@Powerlord I appreciate the effort you're going through, but it's not necessary
"Every time you email something to yourself so you can pull it up on your friend's laptop, Tim Berners-Lee sheds a single tear."
Is the actual text.
@daxelrod Anyway, long story short, the hologram doesn't have the split o on it on any of my wireless controllers.
For that matter, my newest wireless controller doesn't have Microsoft etched into it, but says XBOX 360 instead (but still has the hologram).
Oooh, good to know, thanks
03:34
Maybe it's counterfeit.
@GnomeSlice It'd better not be, I bought it new from Amazon and it came in Microsoft packaging.
@Powerlord Counterfeit.
@GnomeSlice You have reminded me to put my shortstory onto my dropbox so I can get it from my laptop.
Came with the wireless adapter for Windows.
No idea.
03:38
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Q: Will listening to Galaxy Radio blow my stealth?

aslumOr listening to any radio stations for that matter? The load-screen tips frequently mention turning off your pip-boy light, but never say a word about your radio.

My only problem with the wireless adapter is that you can't shut off the controller through Windows. You have to pull the battery pack or wait for it to automatically shut down.
(I should have gotten the wired controller. Whoops.)
Yeah, I've heard of lots of problems with the wireless controllers and Windows, so I stuck to wired
I mean, I like the idea, since the wireless adapter means I could connect 4 controllers to it.
But the whole "pull the battery" thing is annoying.
How many games do you have that use 4 controllers on one computer?
@daxelrod Very few.
I can only think of one game off the top of my head and it likely doesn't work on Modern Windows.
03:48
@Powerlord which one?
@daxelrod Atomic Bomberman
THEY MADE A PC BOMBERMAN? Why was I not informed?
Atomic Bomberman is a game by Interplay for the PC that was released in 1997. It was the first original Bomberman game to be developed for Windows, and the second game of the series made for the PC, following 1992's Bomber Man. The game is relatively unusual in the Bomberman series, as it was officially licensed from Hudson Soft and developed by an American team. Most titles in the series were developed in Japan. It has a different look and feel compared to other Bomberman titles as a result (despite basic gameplay being unchanged), using pre-rendered 3D characters and backgrounds as o...
It was made 14 years ago
Supported up to 10 players, but max 4 players per machine.
I think the most players my friends and I did at once were 6
A level editor!
That must have been insane!
Weird, the Nerf Now guy got a Community Minigun... but did Valve even ask him what he wanted? This interview with Kritzkast hasn't mentioned that he plays Heavy, but it's mentioned Engy, Demoman, and Spy.
03:55
@Powerlord I guess he'll have to, now!
@daxelrod Well, FireSlash (tf2stats guy) said Valve asked him which weapon he wanted.

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