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13:00
@StrixVaria Fuck the rules. I'll sleep my way.
Also, I wonder if @OrigamiRobot knows about Cities: Skylines. He might enjoy it. IT's a city building game being published by Paradox, the same company that made Europa Universalis IV.
You can find the vault gem in normal grifts if you've ever found it on your account before.
@OrigamiRobot Yea, still need lvl 70 and torment 1 to get grift keystones.
They decided to make it due to being angry over how terrible Sim City 5 was
I should play Banished again.
13:02
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, thinking about playing banished agai is what made me think of it , haha
If you do, download the mod.
Which I'll find for you, if you want it.
There are a few mods now.
It has Steam Workshop support
@OrigamiRobot There's a major mod which adds a crapton of ne w stuff
You should all go and play Rollercoaster Tycoon (1).
@No.7892142 Fantastic game
@Wipqozn I come back to it at 2-3 year intervals.
13:08
@StrixVaria So pink. Not a colour you see much around my house.
@JasonBerkan I guess not, with four boys.
@JasonBerkan But pink is the manliest of all the colours.
@Wipqozn True. However, clothing and toy manufacturers don't think so.
Purple is a pretty rad colour.
Green is the best color.
13:12
@OrigamiRobot Nope. Blue is. Not bright blue, but some kind of darkish clear air blue. Green is second though.
"darkish clear air blue" I have no idea what that means.
Blue and Green are my favourite colours.
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Q: Bug with Gored! Achievment TF2

OBraveOneI got the achievment Gored! on tf2 but no item? Unlocked: 4 Aug, 2014 @ 8:04am Gored! Collect the Horseless Headless Horsemann's Haunted Metal.

@Arperum nope. it's red. blood red.
"clear" and "air" would seem to indicate the opposite of "darkish" in my mind.
13:14
I just spent five minutes trying to figure out if @fredley's Lifehacks mod link was a Friday video before I clicked on it.
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@OrigamiRobot Yea, I can't properly explain, but I'm talking about a pretty specific blue.
@JasonBerkan haha, I spent about a minute or two doing that too.
@MattE.Эллен bloodred is also a good colour.
@Arperum "Night Sky blue that isn't quite black"?
Another mod changed his acceptance to a decline today. There's currently only one mod nominee with a net score greater than 4.
@Wipqozn He's not the moderator they need, but he's the moderator they want.
@No.7892142 TIL humans can barely see anything
@Wipqozn At this point, I could become a mod there, just by being willing and having a pulse.
13:17
Pretty sure there's a reason SE hasn't chosen mods yet :P
@MattE.Эллен Bit darker, but also brighter. Gah. I can't explain.
@JasonBerkan I'd vote for you.
I'm probably just wrong in weird ways.
@Arperum no worries :D
@Sterno Yeah, someone posted there asking robert why they haven't chosen mods yet. He didn't respond.
13:17
It is a nomination post, not an election
It's ok, you don't need to explain because blue is a lame color.
It's like the B is for Boring.
@OrigamiRobot B URN.
A) She's cute.
B) The fact that you have to go "Wake her up" boggles my mind
@fredley And the original post was made by a community member, and not by SE.
13:19
@Wipqozn That URL doesn't match up.
@Wipqozn I was so excited, and then after clicking that I was still pretty excited.
@Arperum There was no nom post for coffee
@Wipqozn so predictable
@Sterno : )
@fredley And they still got pro tems?
Addendum, super bright neon blue is pretty cool beside black.
13:20
@Arperum Yup
@StrixVaria How old is she now?
@Sterno 6.5 months
I don't believe a nomination post is actually necessary. SE will tap people on the shoulder.
So it's an SE decision, and not community thing.
13:20
She was really only born a few weeks before my son? For some reason I thought she was older.
@Arperum yup
@Sterno Yeah I remember it was pretty close.
August 1
Yeah, August 13 here. Time flies
So that community nomination thing was just a big "I wanna be a mod" thing, just as I suspected.
The crawling is coming soon!
13:22
@Sterno Yeah she definitely looks like she's going to figure that out pretty soon.
She gets frustrated because she sees where she wants to be but can't get there.
@Arperum Well, it's important to know who wants to be mod when choosing who to make mod
Because the asked is one of the few who hasn't retracted his vote yet.
@Sterno True, but that question smells a lot like "I wanna be mod, but don't want to come out looking like I'm asking to be mod, because people don't like that"
Well, the guy who asked it self-nominated, so he definitely came out looking like he wanted to be mod
(which is okay, IMO)
LIFEHACK: Don't go around smelling questions. You weren't raised in a barn!
@Sterno This isn't the church. You're allowed to want promotion.
13:24
54 secs ago, by Sterno
(which is okay, IMO)
@OrigamiRobot I was raised on a farm though, so I did spend a lot of time in a barn...
@OrigamiRobot Don't say that, it's discriminating people raised in barns!
@Sterno yes yes yes
Well, let me take that back.
Wanting to be mod of Lifehacks in particular says something about your character.
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@Sterno In that case, they should pick people who don't want to be mods
13:27
@Sterno "Wanting to be mod of ______ in particular says something about your character." Equally valid.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: Do not use char(1) in your database to represent a 1 digit number or a boolean. You'll just make me hate you when I have to read your data out and verify that it's actually the type you're treating it as
@No.7892142 Okay. But for Lifehacks, it says something unflattering!
@fredley This would probably work far better there
@Sterno For any other as well.
@Sterno for Lifehacks mod!
@No.7892142 Well, I'll just step away from this while you consider that you just insulted every mod in chat. :)
If someone wanted to be mod of OrigamiRobot.SE, I'd consider that very flattering.
13:29
@Sterno I still don't see anything wrong with the statement.
I nominate @Wipqozn
@Sterno Wat. Why. Just use bit for the second option, and some int variation with an extra constraint on it to limit you to the wanted number range, or use decimal(1,0)
@No.7892142 So you're basically saying there's something wrong with anyone who has ever run for mod anywhere?
@Arperum Right?
@Arperum He could have a table full of varchar(50) columns. I've seen that.
@Sterno No, I was trying to convey that your statement was too generalised to be working.
13:31
Why do people keep using string/char for everything?
These people are using char(1) with "Y" and "N" (or maybe "y" and "n"? or maybe "t" and "f") to represent a boolean
@Arperum Because it's the most versatile!
You'll never get an InvalidTypeException!
@JasonBerkan Same here. I know a system that I have to change stuff in every couple months that runs on mostly that.
@Sterno ord(c) > 110
Here are the values of the PI_Person_Non_Employee_YN column:

1
Y
0
N
GO FUCK YOURSELF WHOEVER WROTE THAT
13:33
@Frank Don't write code, doesn't give InvalidTypeExceptions either.
Clearly you should use "Vcc" and "Gnd"
@Sterno Boolean problems aside, wouldn't it be more intuitive for it to be PI_Person_Employee_YN?
@Sterno I enjoy that column name.
@OrigamiRobot Indeed! Particular when you're dealing with Oracle's shitty column name length limitations
@OrigamiRobot Yeah. Double negatives are so much fun.
The best part is that it's the "Persons" table, so I'm not sure why every column has the "PI_Person" prefix
I guess just so you really, really remember where you are
13:35
@Sterno Blame Hungarians
Boy am I glad I get to work with Progress databases instead.
@Sterno hey, oracle is better than access ;)
I also love storing a boolean for Non_Employee
Oracle is definitely better than Access
and have a nice year with a Access to MySQL migration
xD
13:36
In fact, this is worthy of submission to tdwtf
You guys make me feel better about having to deal with other people's shitty CAD drawings.
I have to import this data into a schema that isn't ridiculous :(
Still better than Access. This table actually has foreign key constraints! Yay!
STOP MAKING YOUR BOXES OUT OF 4 DISTINCT LINES THERE IS A TOOL SPECIFICALLY FOR BOXES
I know Access can do it, but I never see people who use Access bother to add foreign keys
@OrigamiRobot "no"
13:37
@Sterno I have
And do.
i mean,.. lets call the table "tblControlsHauptmenüSteuern"
@Frank Well, you're still using Access, so you're awful (even if it's not your fault you're using it), but at least you're less awful.
@Sterno I'm using it because I don't have a choice.
@Serverfrog >table names with umlauts
panic
@Serverfrog DON'T USE SPECIAL CHARACTERS IN TABLENAMES. THAT'S AS BAD AS SPACES.
13:39
50% of our production applications are in Access.
we migrate them to none speacial characters...
@Frank The only acceptable solution when told you need to add to an Access Database is to quit your job.
but the half of the database is with vb and the other half is macro programmed
with this names HARDCODED
@Sterno I just go, "Hahahahahahahahahahahano"
@Arperum spaces are used in the querys... 2 the same querys.. the only diffrences is a space AT THE END
13:41
What's worse, Access or a CSV made in Word?
@OrigamiRobot Access
@OrigamiRobot Access, because then it's pretending like maybe there is some data integrity
@OrigamiRobot a UTF-16 tabulator seperatet csv with xls ending
@Serverfrog I'm talking about spaces in table and column names. I hate that.
@Serverfrog tab seperated csv files are the devil, god damn
13:42
@No.7892142 yep. cancer...
Yessss
@No.7892142 and a nice big notebook manufacture use this litle devil for the repair process
My interplanetary craft can turn without snapping in half!
@Frank
@Frank ... i could do this.. if i don't have the fear to find not something other o.o
You blue it, @MattE.Эллен
13:45
@Serverfrog I had to program a data import from a thing like that once. That was pretty wild.
@SaintWacko That's gotta be huge, if that's an issue.
@Frank It's actually only 100 tons
But it has some spindly bits
The sneek peak of the Duna Surveyor
@No.7892142 me too
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Q: How is the order of which my units attack determined?

aytimothyLet's say I have several units on the field, all of which have their cooldowns at 0, as shown in this picture of the first tutorial level: How is the order that my units attack determined? Order they were placed? (Earliest goes first?) Number of attacks that it has done? (Least goes first?) I...

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Q: How do I read weapon / armor stats in ADOM?

EdwinFor example, I know that: Armors: [+dv, +pv]. Weapons: (+hc, dmg) where dmg is something like 1d4. How about missile weapon and missiles? Where can I find a information about these? I can't find them in the manual / guidebook / wiki because I don't know what they're called.

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Q: Can I continue a old campaign worth a new character in Borderlands 2?

Joaquin Gonzalez OteguiI've just began playing the ge and I'm not done with the campaign yet but I'd like to start playing with Zer0 without loosing the advance. Can that be done, or do I have to start a new one?

Oh my god, did I really do that?
@fredley, can you please edit my message to say "peek" instead of "peak"?
13:57
@SaintWacko Done
@fredley -.-
@fredley @fredley for best mod
THAT WAS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF WHAT I WANTED DONE
Oh well, at least now my mistake is hidden by MOD ABUSE
14:01
The MOD ABUSE was cleverly hidden with more MOD ABUSE
First Bonetown - The Power of Death, and now The Legend of Candlewind: Nights & Candles... there have been some truly awful, half-finished RPGs coming to Steam lately
@Yuuki And it's finally made clear that Jason Mamoa was the correct choice.
I wonder if Hand of Fate gets boring quick.
> You could cast spells on enemies in the distance, they sometimes even hit. The fireball animation for example looks like you throw a tennis ball at your little doggie, and it roughly has the same impact. The good news: This is the only horrible animation in the game. The bad news: This is the only animation in the game.
> When a character gets slain, his portrait gets replaced by a skull. If you give him a revive potion later, the skull stays. Considering the quality of the portraits I advocate against fixing this bug.
14:12
So that's where all the skeleton enemies in those games come from.
@Sterno steam is the new xbox 360 indie marketplace
> Are you ready kids?
(Suddenly, a chained-up-freaky-butt sex scene)
Cue screaming parents and children.
> I can't hear you...
(tightens ball gag)
@Yuuki They "mixed it up" for sure.
Is this actually a thing, or should I fire up the lazers?
I don't even know what is....
14:22
@5pike I think it's a game
@Serverfrog I currently do the work of all the previous programmers before me.
They literally can't afford to lose me.
we are only 2 persons and im the only one who work at 3 specific projects.
The can't it afford it by me too, but work is work ;)
@Serverfrog That, and I'll find another job pretty easily.
@Frank i was trainee at this work and they take me after that time. it's my second year after the 3 years trainee and i don't think i will find something easliy xD i mean, java-ee developer is nice and so on, but there are many guys with 5+ years experience that could outrun me
so i won't risk to leave them and search something new
14:29
@Serverfrog You probably have more time in the IT industry than I do, I bet.
@Frank 5 years, 2 years after the trainee time. ;) thats not so much i think
@Serverfrog I've only had roughly five years, myself. Mine's just been in a more, "Hey, let's throw him everything, guys!" sort of capacity.
@Frank ahh, i know that. Then i developed the no-policies. Say No and then ask how much it is what i should do
So I walked into this current job as a veteran of horrible IT practices and how to make it work anyways.
14:34
@Yuuki @Unionhawk
naptime
@5pike This seems to suggest it might be a bug with missing textures
@fredley At least he was honest, I guess?
> not very well briefed MP
lol
14:43
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Q: Does dodging have invincibility frames?

RapitorWhen dodging, does it have any invincibility frames(you cannot be hurt during certain "frames" of the dodge)? Do different weapons have a different amount of frames?(if they have invincibility in the first place)

So true
14:58
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Q: What makes Assassin's Creed Unity so GPU intensive?

user2623008Assassin's Creed Unity is far more GPU intensive than the previous title, Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag or even other games that I found visually nicer or on par, like Crysis 3, and I'm wondering just why that is. Is it just because it has more of everything (more polygons and higher resolutio...

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Q: Thought experiment: What would happen if we didn't have close votes?

Jon EricsonAfter reading "My Love-Hate Relationship with Stack Overflow: Arthur S., Arthur T., and the Soup Nazi" one of our developers wondered what would happen if we didn't have close votes. Disclaimer: I don't know of any actual plans to actually get rid of close votes. Like legalizing marijuana, a chan...

Interesting idea
@5pike Problems?
Naah, friday
@5pike That's a CRT. It SHOULD be chucked out a window.
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15:02
Friday, Friday, gotta throw monitors out windows on Friday
@5pike it-ikea
But yeah, @Frank, that duna surveyor has a lander at the top, six satellites in the center section, and then the bottom is the drive section
The lander is designed to be able to refuel itself by mining Karbonite, and carries enough dv to get itself into orbit and back down
With some orbital adjustment in there
@SaintWacko I hope you have something there for just firing out the satellites willy nilly. Because that would be awesome.
15:03
And it also has enough dv to get from Duna to Ike
They fold out and then jettison
And each satellite has 1kmps of dv
@SaintWacko That doesn't look sturdy enough to survive launch.
@Yuuki I'm sure it isn't
It also doesn't have enough dv to get into orbit
It's launched in three pieces
@SaintWacko You need two more pieces, for a proper combining mecha.
It just looks to weird to see what seems like the innards. Usually, rockets have a sheathing or cover.
@Yuuki I'll show you the launchers
That puts the lander section into orbit
And I've included various information windows
That puts the satellite section into orbit
Ugh, and I apparently forgot to save the launcher for the drive section
Bah
But it doesn't have a shroud anyway
15:14
@Frank Stop encouraging @Zisteau @SaintWacko
@MBraedley KSP is about doing cool stuff.
@MBraedley Watching Zisteau's Minecraft videos the other day, I'm pretty sure he's actually me
And I just finished a model, so I have mecha on the brain.
He looks for the same things in worlds
Lays out his toolbar the same way
And apparently has the same first name
@SaintWacko It's more of a reference to his Jool explorer mission he did.
15:16
@MBraedley Oh?
I haven't seen it
What are you using for fairings? KW rocketry or something else?
@SaintWacko Let's see if I can find it
I think that's the start of that Jool mission. If not, it's in the next couple of episodes.
Or possibly earlier.
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Q: How do I improve my Gnome's armor skill?

VanzanzI have worked up a training program that allows me to run a military where I can let a couple squads train up to fight the incoming riff raff. In my two squads currently, for each gnome I have between 150 and 250 fighting skill, 120-150 dodge, 100-130 shield, and I am currently working one squad...

@Lazers Did @GnomeSlice get a game named after him?
I do not approve of the new youtube thumbnails
@Sterno Agreed
@TimStone Yeah, I heard about that.
This is what happens when your customer service is supposed to be more focused on keeping and upselling than actually solving problems.
This looks interesting, early access though=[ store.steampowered.com/app/285920
@KevinvanderVelden Looks like Robocraft.
The idea has been done before, but this has the advantage that you can edit your thing mid game
And there's resource gathering as well
Which I think might be neat features
Data caps on wireline service makes negative amounts of sense. I can kinda-sorta-maybe see it in wireless service, but I can't accept them on home internet connections.
15:27
YOU DON'T NEED TO USE NUMBER(38) YOU JACKASS. THAT'S TOO BIG
@MBraedley Procedural
in the end I went with ordering the Sabertooth mobo
15:50
Good morning, Bridge.
@MadMAxJr That brings back memories
@Wipqozn Yeah, since I stopped doing it.
@Frank I'm still sad you stopped doing it. Going "Good morning, Bridge" cold turkey is hard.
15:55
Oh god, after adding procedurally generated poetry forms into the game, Toady is now doing the same for music
'Click here to pay Jeff Bridges with a White Russian'
> This one has a few more layers than the poems -- there's the scale/note choice side of it with its own generator, the rhythm side with its own generator, and then that's combined with a choice of generated instruments (including singing) and other information in varying degrees to say what's performed/composed and how all that works.
@Yuuki Huh. Apparently, I haven't said it regularly for almost a year.
16:09
@Yuuki Tape heads spinning at the same speed.
More information. Turns out, he's not cheap, just confused.
@Frank This just keeps getting better and better
Canada has the oddest politicians
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Q: Is there any space rts or 4x game with full 3d space instead of the usual "space is 2d"?

monteroIs there any space related rts or 4x game, that have full 3d space instead of the usual "space is 2d" bullshit?

@fredley At least we're polite about our oddness!
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Q: What are easy quests in Skyrim?

AnonymousLately I've been wandering around with no quests. I'm on level 8. Are there any quests that are easy and give lots of XP?

16:30
They're just so classy
> Although this is what most people think of as a "data cap," Comcast says it's not a cap, because customers can use as much as they want if they don't mind paying more.
@Sterno comcast is the ultimate butt
@Rapitor And what happens when you have no competition.
Why bother being nice when you're the only game in town?
They aren't
there is competition
Comodo, I hope you're not trying to cheat the government here.
16:33
I mean, in that phone call linked, clearly the guy had other options he was swithcing to
and they are all butts
Maybe we can ask lifehacks.se for tips on dealing with Comcast.
In my area, I have not one but TWO options!
I noticed that the code signing certificate that they sent us, whose CSR was generated 2015-02-17, goes from 2015-02-10 to 2016-02-11.
the competition is who can be worse to their customers
16:33
I like that people know at this point that if you're going to call Comcast support, you'd better record the call
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@Sterno That's the only way to get them to honor whatever it is their rep promises.
I've got to get that android app that records calls
Oh, apparently we got a copy of the code signing cert from another part of the organization, which is why it started a week and a half ago.
It's sad when calling ISP support and listening to their unhelpful advice is indistinguishable from someone actively trolling you.
I wish I had other options for high speed Internet.
16:38
Hi Comcast, my name is [customer] and I will be recording this call for quality and training purposes.
And not in the "Genie, here's my wish" sense as I could think of much better Genie wishes.
My state doesn't require two-party consent for recording phone calls. I CAN RECORD EVERYTHING. MUAHAHAHAHA
@Sterno It would be insanely bad PR for them to refuse to allow you to record them, but they can record you.
@Frank comcast? care about PR? Nonsense
@Rapitor The only reason they currently care is because they want regulators to allow them to buy Time Warner.
Who's #2 in the shitty customer service game.
16:42
@Frank I also don't think there is any country where that is legal, you get consent for the call to be recorded, not for a party to record said call
@KevinvanderVelden It won't stop companies from trying.
Control the narrative, and that's all that matters.
Honestly, the idea that you can't record a phone call that you're involved in is ridiculous to me
But given that they can't stop you from recording, f that =p
16:43
I mean, this "data caps mandated by law" would be a non-issue, if the call wasn't recorded.
Comcast would just go, "We have no idea what you're talking about. That never happened."
Vulture is the 2nd ship in 1.2
cc @Elite peoples
@OrigamiRobot The two-hardpoint gunship?
Yes
@Sterno NC is also a 1-party state
Most are
16:53
The thought of anything less kind of astonishes me
@OrigamiRobot thought so. I guess federal Corvette was announced too soon
or late.
Someone explain to me how to use reddit to see my subscribed subreddits
because clearly I don't know what I'm doing
I'm subscribed to /games /gaming and /monsterhunter
We'll have to see about the rest of the Vulture, but 2x Large hardpoints doesn't really interest me
@Sterno ARe you logged in? Did you unsub from the defaults? Because they sub you to a bunch of subs by default
@Sterno Are you logged in?
16:56
I'm logged in. But I've never unsubbed. Maybe I need to go do that.
@Sterno Don't worry, there's only a fuckton of them they sub you to now
HOLY SHIT THEY SUBSCRIBE YOU TO A LOT
To take care of that
@Sterno Say Hello to Frank!
16:56
@Sterno It used to be 20. now it's around 50.
meeting time!
@Sterno unsubbing is reddit baptism
@Sterno Oh yeah, when you create an account, all the defaults are subscribed. Best to unsubscribe from all of them
Dropping r/gaming is also a good idea
@PrivatePansy Hey r/photoshopbattles/ and r/listentothis/ are still great
Unsub from all defaults.
user4704
I also found reddit much easier to browse when I turned off subreddit-specific styling.
16:58
@RedRiderX Are they defaults these days?
@fredley Oh yeah
Also, get RES
@RedRiderX cool!
@fredley Yeah, they made a lot of small subreddits defaults recently
They've mixed it up quite a bit lately.
Which may ruin those small subreddits, but who knows
16:58
Also r/videos is pretty nice
@PrivatePansy The two I mentioned held up pretty well
r/oldschoolcool did not, however
r/diy is good
@fredley Oh yeah it's still pretty good
r/nottheonion has deteriorated a bit

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