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14:00
@StrixVaria This is the shit I run into. And I should fix that image
@Sterno what is this, a picture for ants?
Wow that's a big level difference.
@StrixVaria His friends are level 17-18
This is the first level of the old forest
@StrixVaria Yep. Escorts give awesome bonuses
Can you take them?
14:02
I'm so glad more people are playing ToME
It's such a wonderful game
What classes are you guys playing?
@SaintWacko I've only made 1 character so far, and it was a Human Bulwark.
I forgot the name of the subtype of Human. Something with a C.
@StrixVaria Because I am fucking amazing, yes. After retreating to make them come at me single file
@Sterno That is how you do every fight in a roguelike.
Usually I die because I run into stuff like that which does things like lock me down or confuse me
@SaintWacko Dwarven Berserker
I unlocked the ability to play the Arena campaign, but I'm really most interested in unlocking new races/classes.
I wonder how far you have to get in before you can do that.
14:05
I just killed about 20 bees in a row and unlocked the summoner class. Go me
Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
inb4 oprah
@SaintWacko Is there a way to reposition the chat log?
@Yuuki Nah, In @KevinvanderVelden's case it's more like inb4 Minecraft.
nvm, found it
Just went down some stairs into this
This game is dicks
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14:28
@Sterno Go back up stairs.
@Frank That is the coward's way.
@Sterno Okay, I'll be here, alive, taking the cowards way, while you get murdered.
That does seem the most likely
@Wipqozn Quelaag
@GnomeSlice That's the one. Spider Lady.
She gives you 20k souls. I might try to beat her at level 1 just for the thrill of it.
14:31
@Wipqozn also she gives you a boss soul so if you want to be a clown you can use the exploit to get infinite souls out of it
@GnomeSlice I suspect I won't want to watch this at work.
@GnomeSlice nah, exploit are silly
I forgot about the boss soul for some reason, though.
@Wipqozn It's not as bad as it looks, but it does briefly have Quelaag's chest in it (part of the cutscene).
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Q: How do I view all my kittens?

forgivensonWhen I click on the village/settlement/city tab, I can view my kittens, and see which jobs they are assigned to. However, I can only view at most 10 kittens in each job, even when I have more than 10 assigned to that job. I don't see any "Next Page" button either. This is an issue when I tempora...

@OrigamiRobot I love that one
14:34
@Wipqozn Definitely not.
@Rapitor I'm not quit sure what's going on here.
@Wipqozn it's a whole series of LOZ silliness
@Rapitor I don't get it.
@GnomeSlice staring him down awkwardly
14:39
@Rapitor Those eyes are creepy.
I seem to be having a lot of problems with getting null in this project.
Was having a good run. Got good gear in starter dungeon. As soon as I hit the overworld I'm ambushed by some wizard guy who locks me in place and pelts me to death with spells. GG, Sterno!
I LOVE IT
@Yuuki Quite often, the trick is figuring why you're getting null when you're expecting anything but null.
@Yuuki Oh?
14:47
Finding information on passing model data back to the controller with JavaScript is hazy at best.
@Sterno You've already been through more characters in this than in Dungeonmans it sounds like. That means it's a better game, right?
Makes it a bit annoying to figure out exactly what I'm doing wrong.
@StrixVaria That's how I rate it, yeah
@Yuuki Because at the time you are doing the JavaScript, the model doesn't exist.
It might be time to try something other than Berserker
@Yuuki I don't even know what you're doing, but I'm sure Json and Jquery are the answer!
14:49
@JasonBerkan That's what I gather, but I'm not exactly sure how to proceed.
@Sterno Wait, so you've only been playing the rampaging smasher? No wonder you keep dying!
@Frank Thus my refusal to take the coward's way out
Have I mentioned that I'm bad at the programmings?
(he did die, by the way... the bastards blinded him and it went downhill from there)
@Sterno And hence why I'm still alive, and you ain't.
14:50
@Frank I die so that I may live again!
(Also, I'm not actually playing)
MY LEGEND LIVES ON FOREVER
@Sterno Most likely
@Sterno Never back down!
No one ever got (the good kind of) songs written about them for running away!
14:52
"Hey, remember that stupid berserker that fell down the stairs? We chucked some sand in his face, and he was just waving that weapon of his and stumbling around. Dumb schmuk. Finally put him out of his misery."
@Yuuki I generally grab whatever information I need out of the input fields with jQuery and pass them up to the controller via the URL.
Yea, that guy was no Dungeonmans.
@JasonBerkan That makes sense, I guess I could pull the data from the <object> rather than try to pass the model.
Only... one problem. The <object> is created with Html.Action().
@Yuuki When it gets to the browser, it's all one big HTML page. How it is built on the server no longer matters.
@JasonBerkan Yeah, but how would I reference it in the JavaScript is what I'm wondering.
Get the content of the div?
Yeah, that makes sense.
facepalm
14:58
@Yuuki I use hidden fields, if it isn't in an input control, but yeah.
$.ajax({
	type: "post",
	dataType: "html",
	url: '/controller/action/',
	data: 'id=' + $('#inputWithName').val(),
	success: function (response) {
		$("#divWithResults").html(response);
	}
});
Meh. Fixed font and me aren't friends today.
@JasonBerkan ctrl-a ctrl-k
So I did something different that works but has the side effect of having the click called on page load as well as on click.
15:13
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Q: How do I counter a hard hiting lifestealer?

user50849I recently played an all random 3 vs 3. I was Centaur, and became primarily responsible for stopping Wraith King, which I failed at. We quickly dispatched of the other opponents, and managed to kill WK once, but then his reincarnation would kick in and we'd be out of mana/life/everything else, ...

> EarthTongue is a vivarium sim that places in you limited control over a small ecosystem on a fantastical world. You will spend most of your time watching life grow and eat each other to survive. Your subtle nudges will be required to maintain the balance of this world, but it can handle itself much of the time.
@GnomeSlice That's an intriguing pay model.
I'm interested.
That's the second pay-by-art thing I've seen recently
@GnomeSlice Well, it's the first for me.
I think it's nice.
Either pay them actual money or essentially do adwork for them.
The other one was by the incredipede people
uhhh
what game was it
There we go
They've got some dope ass submissions too
15:17
@GnomeSlice Man, that's something I might wanna see on a shirt.
Yeah it's rad
Looks like flow has a good OST too:
I've never played flow. Perhaps I should one day.
I still need to play Journey too.
@Wipqozn fl0w's music suits the game very well but it's not really structured in a way that I'd like to listen to out of the game
@GnomeSlice It's very atmospheric, based on what I've heard so far. Seems like good music to play while you're doing something else, like working.
^ probably the best artist I discovered in 2014
15:25
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Q: Pokérus Help Needed

Amo ShahI heard that pokerus accelerates ev training but the virus is much rarer than a shiny pokemkn so i searched in the grass for about 3 hours but for the life of me, i can't find a pokerus infected pokemon. Is there any way to get it easily or do i really have to get it from someone else and if I do...

@Wipqozn I've never been a big fan of purely ambient music.
I have to be in a very particular mood
@Wipqozn you may enjoy this: phaeleh.bandcamp.com/album/somnus
Lets play a game where you guys guess how many times I hear "You missed a great party" or some variation thereof.
never?
@OrigamiRobot every damn day?
Just today.
15:35
0?
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Q: Reputation point in chat room different than actual reputation on Arqade

PierreSo, when I speak in a chat room, or look at my profile through a chat room, I see that I have more reputation points than I actually own on Arqade. How is it possible? Are the reputation points in the chat something different than the "real" reputation points? Here is an image of first above m...

The first was within mere seconds of arriving at work.
I keep dying on level 1. This is the worst.
@OrigamiRobot If this "great party" did not involve Monster Hunter at some point, it is not a "great party".
@Yuuki This is indeed the definition of a great party.
15:37
@Sterno Does this game have uniques like Crawl? There is nothing quite like my unabashed hatred for Sigmund.
I think so
@JasonBerkan Is there a Nethack-esque dungeoncrawler that doesn't have uniques?
I want to use "roguelike" in its most appropriate actual use, but that term has been so devalued...
@Yuuki I've only played Crawl. Those games have such a huge learning curve, that once you've picked one, it's easier to play it than switch.
And Rogue. I played Rogue as a kid.
Do you also cry when you see the term "roguelike" tacked onto everything under the sun?
Also, apparently Nethack is on Android. And consequently, my phone.
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Q: Is it possible to do the Pitt without a slaver outfit

ChilionI found the slavecamp before I found the Pitt guy. I killed the slavers, freed the slaves, talk to the Pitt guy and didn't choose the right dialogs. Then went back to megaton to do a whole lot of other things before returning to the Pitt guy and only by now I found out that I did choose the wrong...

15:42
@Yuuki let's either start calling them rougelikes or rouge-ish
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@KevinvanderVelden Heck yes.
@JasonBerkan So far ToME seems to have a much shallower learning curve than Crawl.
They feel pretty different, though.
@StrixVaria ToME is on my "games to look into" list, so I will probably play it at some point.
15:49
@Unionhawk feels
@Yuuki roguelike-like?
omg new cogmind gif
pls
Would using Html.Action() cause an onclick function to also execute on page load?
Today's Listening | Synthpop / Synthwave
@Yuuki No, but if the Html.Action is the same action the click executes, then it will run once during page rendering.
15:52
@JasonBerkan How do I keep that from happening?
Because otherwise, it does exactly what I need it to do.
Wait, I think I might have a workaround...
@Yuuki Working blind, my initial guess would be to not call Html.Action. Otherwise, split the actions up - one to build the page and one to refresh the page.
@Unionhawk T____T you monster
IF I WAS SUFFERING I HAD TO MAKE THE BRIDGE SUFFER TOO
IT'S IN MY CONTRACT
@Unionhawk It's under the "Being A Dick" clause.
I was going to make up some joke about the Bridge is contractually the best at being the worst, but cba
15:58
It's not that we're contractually required to be the worst, it is just the right thing to do.
Also, this needs to be a thing: smbc-comics.com/index.php?db=comics&id=3608
Wait, we're not?
@Unionhawk Not in my contract, but you might have signed the wrong one, it is a thing you do
Oh! You're right! This is my Reddit User Agreement.
Hang on shuffles papers
takes papers and makes paper airplanes out of them
@KevinvanderVelden Stay off my turf!
16:02
@OrigamiRobot shares paper with @OrigamiRobot More paper planes :D
This is acceptable, but I've got my eye on you.
Jeah! I can close a bug as PEBKAC
@OrigamiRobot would make paper Elite ships probably
Really want to watch @Sterno dying over and over in ToME. Valve pls.
@StrixVaria twitch?
16:06
@GnomeSlice get out of here with your non-steam suggestions
TIL that the UK has Black Friday but not Thanksgiving
@OrigamiRobot Whatever
THAT'S THE WORST PART ABOUT THANKSGIVING
UK confirmed worst K
Oh FFS I HATE PASSWORD EXPIRATION
16:08
ur just a steam h8er
@OrigamiRobot I like a lot of things about Steam.
I have like a billion games on the platform
@Unionhawk T_T You're worse then @StrixVaria @Wipqozn.
And I use the client to manage all the other ones as well
You do know he's just kidding, right?
#fakesteamfan
16:11
@Arperum @Fluttershy is the one who set Nina to his avatar once and his name to play.
He's the real monster.
You can all be monsters
@Wipqozn That's quite bad too.
I'm a robot
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Q: How to read Steam play time hours when they are in decimal format?

SanwaIn Steam the play time of a person is displayed in a decimal formatted number such as 0.5 hours or 21.9 hours. what is the significance of the number after the decimal point? And how should these times be read in the usual hours and minutes format?

@StrixVaria I sought out the easier dungeons and am doing much better.
I looked it up and was apparently hitting tier 2 dungeons
16:13
Yeah I'm a bit nervous since I saw Old Forest is tier 2 and that's where I am.
Though I still die quite a bit on level 1 sometimes. Just comes down to if I see two orc archers at once or not
But it's also my first character so whatever. I'll try to beast it anyway.
@StrixVaria Using a noun as a verb? Who are you, a League of Legends player?
@Yuuki Technically...
I also put more points in dexterity and some accuracy talents. I think I was missing too much on my previous guys
16:15
20 secs ago, by Unionhawk
@Yuuki Technically...
WHY DO I ALWAYS FIND LEVEL 24 BEARS?
They're... parts of hours?
MATH IS NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE
IT TOTALLY IS THOUGH
1+1=DEBATABLE
16:17
@StrixVaria I'll action that once I've versioned it
@Unionhawk no.
@OrigamiRobot 1+1=10
@KevinvanderVelden IS IT 10 OR IS IT 2 YOU TELL ME
1&1 = 1
1&2=3
16:18
WHAT IF IT'S 2_13?
2&2=2
@Unionhawk I'M TELLING YOU IT'S 1!
2&13=15
5&2=0
Best operator.
@fredley Have you created a function where X&X=X and X&Y=X+Y?
16:19
30 secs ago, by StrixVaria
5&2=0
@fredley what & are you using? 1&2=0
Wow. Doing that escort quest gave me +2 stat points. Nice
In digital computer programming, a bitwise operation operates on one or more bit patterns or binary numerals at the level of their individual bits. It is a fast, primitive action directly supported by the processor, and is used to manipulate values for comparisons and calculations. On simple low-cost processors, typically, bitwise operations are substantially faster than division, several times faster than multiplication, and sometimes significantly faster than addition. While modern processors usually perform addition and multiplication just as fast as bitwise operations due to their longe...
@fredley 01 and 10 = 00
16:20
Oh. Bitwise AND
I feel so dumb
5
you gotta be bitwise if you want to survive the mean SO streets
I MAY BE DUMB BUT I'M NOT STUPID
@Unionhawk don't worry you're "not as idiot as all of us"
16:22
HOME TIME
CYA CHAT
Wait... but wasn't that bitwise OR?
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Q: Duplicate user accounts

pinckermanI've found something strange on pokemon-oras This makes me think that this guy has created several accounts, each one has only asked a single question. He hasn't even upvoted or accepted an answer. He just create a new account each time. Is this allowed? I think somebody should merge those ac...

Oct 2 '12 at 16:52, by OrigamiRobot
3x12=36
2x12=24
1x12=12
0x12=18
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16:32
So my Monday/Wednesday/Friday has a bunch of bullshit classes. Hooray! \o/ (Information Ethics and Diff Eq)
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Q: When do I get to upgrade my ship?

aytimothyNote: This content is only found in the nightly builds. I've been seeing a teaser on the Starbound website showing ship progression, which is already implemented into the nightly builds. However, poking around the Starbounder Wiki, it only shows about items (#1 and #2) that may have been replac...

@OrigamiRobot Really? I see 3 syntax errors and 18.
@Unionhawk Ooh, information ethics.
@Unionhawk I took an ethics class like that. What a waste of time.
ie: Don't be a spammer.
16:34
Ethics is weird...
my information ethics class sorta devolved into rants about DRM
@Sconibulus Which is where ethics got thrown out in favor of cold hard cash.
Do you mean to tell me that it's... No. I'm not.
Fuck that discussion, I'm out of here
I think there was actually some amount of discussion about privacy too
16:36
but it was mostly DRM rants
@UNI PLS
@OrigamiRobot I want an Original Bubs "I'm outta here, you amateurs" image to use, but it doesn't exist :(
And I'm too lazy to make it
I don't remember that
No?
I WIN
VICTORYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY runs out of the room
It's time to meet the muppets at the muppet show tonight!
16:48
@StrixVaria Y'know I was just referencing the Bridge's constant jokes about laning whenever a relevant LoL question pop ups not actually making fun of you, right?
@Unionhawk i've heard that homestar is going to be back
haven't heard anything since
@Rapitor Did you notice the new Halloween toon this year?
@Yuuki Any excuse is a good excuse to post Calvin and Hobbes.
@Powerlord have not ;O
@StrixVaria And yet whenever I see us griping about LoL's lingo, that comic never pops up.
16:54
People complaining about LoL terminology is silly.
Holy s--t factor = 20 billion.
@Unionhawk I thought that guy was a different colour...
LoL terminology is not the crux of complaining about LoL questions.
@Yuuki Yeah, black holes are pretty crazy
A perfect example of why Space is aweseom
@Yuuki April Fool's Day update for Elite: Jump out of warp directly into a black hole at random
17:05
@Wipqozn Yeah, soon as I get enough, I'm gonna fly my Asp into Sagittarius A.
@Yuuki It took me a moment yo realie you meant in Elite and not in RL
@Wipqozn "fly my a--"?
@Yuuki I'm not even sure
@OrigamiRobot Yeah, a lot of LoL questions are complete garbage even if you know the terminology. That's a legitimate complaint.
That would be an interesting way to go though, flying yourself into a black hole.
@StrixVaria They're like the questions of ArQAde. Wait a minute...
17:11
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Q: If I respawn a boss and kill him with Lucatiel again, does that count towards the 3 bossfight requirement to prevent her from disappearing?

Twilight SparkleI've killed the Lost Sinner with Lucatiel more than 3 times by respawning with a bonfire ascetic. Have I met the requirement to prevent Lucatiel of Mirrahh from disappearing after Aldia's Keep?

Nice. If you're too high level for a dungeon in ToME, it says "This dungeon is so easy for you that you stroll to the last level" and basically just dumps you down there.
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Q: The scope of Lifehacks

Matt S.So it should come as no surprise to anyone that this site is struggling. The problem: In the few days this site has been in private beta, we've been trying to: Figure out if there's anything that isn't on-topic. Figure out who the experts are. Figure out if devices count as lifehacks. Figure ...

> But it hasn't all been fruitless, we have been able to decide that:
> * What our chatroom name should be.
... Congratulations?
@Yuuki The fact that this had to even be asked probably showed a poor fit for StackExchange
@Powerlord The list of meta problems that need to be solved vs. meta problems that have been solved is hilarious.
17:15
the fact meta has more questions than the actual site?
> We would rather use the site to help people.
Seriously?
That needed to be clarified?
@Yuuki baby steps™
@Powerlord it's funny how much better Ys I is than Ys II despite so little changes between the two games
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Q: Diablo 3 - Difficulties and Drops

PanomoshI've just hit level 70. I'm not strong enough to play at torment yet so I need to gear up. My question is, will the same level of gear drop on Normal as it would on Master? I know the drop rate will be lower, but I will be able to tank through bounties and rifts really quickly on normal. Obvio...

@Yuuki The more I think about it the more I realize tht site is doomed.
Any scope they come up is just going to be completely arbitairy. There isn't going to be anyway for new users to know if their question is on-topic without digging through hoards of meta or just asking, and seeing if ti gets closed.
Their scope is just "everyday problems, with exceptions".
@Lazers Those tags
17:33
I think the main issue is that SE is a network of verticals
while they're explicitly trying to go for the horizontal of terrible ideas
which is pretty meta
@Rapitor allegedly the brothers are back
@Unionhawk ?
Homestar runner
@Wipqozn You're just NOW realizing this?
17:38
@Powerlord No,I realized it all along. It's jsut the more I think about it the more I realize just how doomed it is.
@Rapitor Buttdance again, like the rhythm's down your pants now
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A: Let's think of a creative name for our chatroom

Matt S.Can we just call it "Chat"? That seems like the simplest solution.

Question about Starbound: Are the nightly builds publicly available?
Probably by our definition
Not certain
@Unionhawk Checking their website, it seems they are.
Just need to be opted into.
17:45
stamps "Resolved" on that question
0
Q: Is there a term for games with overly precise controls?

BrianThere have been a bunch of recent games that feature controls that feature overly precise controls, for the sake of humor, challenge, or both. The player typically controls individual muscles or body parts rather than simply pressing buttons to perform actions. Such games include: Surgeon Simul...

17:49
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@OrigamiRobot Now that that's over with, I can complain about you not entering the caret (^) again so we could have done the Konami Code.
@Yuuki Haha, I was thinking the same thing
> ^
> ^
> v
> v
> <
> >
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> >
> B
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> start9
REQUEST CONFIRMED. AUTHORIZATION REQUIRED
> "helix fossil"
17:52
Where is the 9 on the NES controller?
@Yuuki AUTHORIZATION DENIED
> "your mom"
SYNTAX ERROR
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Q: Does the Galnet news play a part in the game?

RapitorGalnet gives "news" as well as other various information and makes the game feel like its more like a real and breathing place, but does it actually talk about happenings in-game or is it just random flavor to give the game life? Can players affect/change what happens for Galnet to report on (lik...

> SYNTAX ERROR: String length exceeds maximum value.
17:56
How rude
IDENTITY CONFIRMED. WELCOME UNIONHAWK

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