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18:00
I read that as "grocery shipping"
Apple/Orange OTP
psssh
banana/kiwi
now that's a OTP
I just donated 30 unopened Magic 2012 Core Set boosters to my comic shop. They're reaction was not verbalized, but seemed to be "Who is going to want these?"
No good deed...
Donate them to me next time :D
@OrigamiRobot Well, I guess shipping is just on your mind, I take it your working on your NaNoWriMo thing?
@Sterno Where'd you get 30 boosters?
18:02
@Sterno Freebies for customers?
@KevinvanderVelden I am not a writer.
@Frank I bought 3 boxes 2 years ago to do drafts with. Never got far into the last box before I had kids
@badp Run a draft, give them as prizes, sell them for all I care.
Human is smaller than giant earthworm?!?
@OrigamiRobot like that's ever stopped people from shipping =p
@fredley Human earthworms aren't common.
@badp eh?
@KevinvanderVelden eugh
@KevinvanderVelden It stops me from doing NaNoWriMo
> and can reach 3 metres (9.8 ft) in length, however as their body is able to expand and contract making them appear much larger
@KevinvanderVelden 6.7 in Africa
@Sconibulus Ooh, I missed that one
I thought they were sorta ordered by length
18:04
@Sterno Loose booster of old sets are very hard to sell because box mapping is a thing.
I like being able to browse comics in a real store, yet comic stores are terrible at staying in business.
@OrigamiRobot What is box mapping?
ooooh
second players can get their own familiars
@Sterno There are a set number of different print sheets and each box is assembled from one print sheet. For older sets, people know what those print sheets contain and can tell what is in a box and where by looking at the top few packs.
Well, I handed them the box along with 33 of the 36 packs that came in it.
But they don't know that and neither do potential buyers.
18:07
So I'm not sure how much different it would be than some customer coming in and buying 3 packs before anyone else
My messages keep timing out the first time I type them. Awesome.
@Sterno Because people don't do that with older sets.
7 mins ago, by Batophobia
Donate them to me next time :D
@Batophobia Or to actual players instead of the shop.
I'd probably invite friends over and do a draft with it
@Batophobia No time
18:11
9 mins ago, by Batophobia
Donate them to me next time :D
I can make time for that
But yea, if you are buying loose packs from older sets, you really have to assume they're mapped.
@Batophobia the units assigned for each achiev can be found in this source js by searching function achiQuantum and reading down from it
If there's a valuable uncommon or something, it's easier because those aren't mapped.
it shows which numbers of units are for which achievs, but they're not named, and I'm too lazy to count myself
@Batophobia On second thought, what makes you think the Sun is considered a Planetary object?
18:13
@Chippies I, too, am lazy
@Yuuki Because leveling it up seems to go along with the Planetary achievements
@Batophobia maybe I'll post link to it in your question comments and someone not lazy will make a list or something...
@Chippies I've just been figuring out what group each is in by watching achievements then leveling groups in blocks
I just level everything up by pressing the max button
start from most expensive and work my way to cheapest
try to get multiples of 50 if I'm close
I can't be bothered to be super efficient with these kind of games...
There's a lot of Stellar units
@OrigamiRobot So did they fix this for newer sets or can you still box map?
18:20
I've been leveling things up 50 at a time, in orders of magnitude. So I'll say "everything <10septillion gets 50 upgrades", then "everything less than 100septillion gets 50 upgrades", etc.
@Batophobia 11 or 12, according to the js
I've not fed the black hole yet, game hasn't slowed down that much
@Sterno I think they've gotten better about it recently, but I don't know
@Batophobia I fed mine within the first 10'ish minutes, got free 6% boost
18:25
@Chippies This is my strategy too
I'm only up to Uranus
I just got my first sun
I don't like how top bar doesn't stay on top when I scroll down
I have my page zoomed out at 50% now to fit everything in it...
and that's already pushing it, considering I'm on a 17" 1080p screen
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Q: The Hunter: Won't Launch

mike6715bI have Windows 8 Operating system, first of all, i have allready downloaded the game from Steam but it kept crashing at Launch so my friend recommended to redownload it from the Hunter website. And so i did. But now it starts to launch and then i closes with no error message or anything. I hope s...

@Sterno Apparently it's still very possible.
@OrigamiRobot That is a shame.
So basically, buy an entire box of boosters or none at all.
@OrigamiRobot I thought they made it harder with the most recent sets
@Sterno Or buy from a store, because any store that mapped boxes would lose all of their customers
18:33
@Chippies Just got mine
@murgatroid99 Not if they're crafty.
@murgatroid99 I'm seeing claims of Theros and M15 maps
@fredley congrats on your first solar system
@Sterno seriously, it doesn't really happen.
It the specific case of M12, you also have the problem of low average pack value
18:34
Or more generally, if you expect stores to cheat their customers, don't buy anything from anyone ever
@murgatroid99 It's not really about expectation. It's about possibility and what that does to the perceived value of buying from a local game shop versus ordering a box online
Plus, they can cheat Magic cards all they want... my Walking Dead comic is probably still a Walking Dead comic
Unless they added ebola to it as a bonus
Now with 20% higher chance of killing you!
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Q: Stuck on science cap

QuillionI am stuck and can't get my science up anymore. My science max is 388.254K I have 60 academies (next upgrade is at 438K science) 63 Observatories (Next upgrade is at 405K science) 59 Biolabs (Next upgrade is at 415K science) 15 Satelites (Next upgrade is at 396K science) 9 Space stations (Next u...

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Q: Minecraft 1.8 simple mod / mcp 9.1 - scoreboard throw msg not working

mstramI'm trying to create a simple Minecraft 1.8 mod, and to test my MCP 9.1 install. I : modified the msg for throw new IllegalArgumentException in ScoreObjective addScoreObjective ( Scoreboard.java). (just changed the message by adding 'mike' to the beginning of the msg.) ran recompile.bat, reobf...

@Sterno And I'm saying that if specific rares stopped coming from boosters from a particular store, that store would lose its most valuable/loyal customers
I just figured out how to become a billionaire
I just need to somehow couple collectible card games with incrementals.
18:39
@Sterno That's actually what I've been working on
Hey, in Binding of Isaac, what item does Isaac start with once you've unlocked it?
@Powerlord Isaac is unlocked from the beginning. He doesn't have a starting item.
@Sterno That's just MtG
@5pike I'm aware that the character is unlocked, but I thought he started with an item once you unlock it from Sheol or something
The more you play and the more cards you get, the better you get and the more cards you get.
18:41
Fine, you made me look it up. It's The Dice.
@Powerlord He can get the D6 later
You start out just opening packs, but eventually that's not worth it anymore.
@OrigamiRobot No. In what I'm talking about, the cards you already have would get better over time.
@Sterno That does happen.
The only number that gets bigger in MtG is the card count of your collection. MORE NUMBERS ARE NEEDED
18:44
@OrigamiRobot some cards get better
some get worse
@Sterno Prize money.
Okay, I'm seeing it now.
"Spend $4000 of prize money on Black Lotus to increase future prize winnings by 3x!"
@murgatroid99 They fluctuate, but there is an ever increasing value just due to age.
Feed the black hole, 17% increase
@OrigamiRobot except for most old cards, which nobody wants
18:46
@Batophobia read the comment I replied in the question thingy about black hole
@murgatroid99 Collectors want them.
@Chippies I saw it, up-voted it too
cool :)
The description of feeding black hole is kinda deceiving
but after finding the code in the source and testing by spending atoms, I confirmed that it's calculated by atoms, not aps
Yea, I thought it was just going to take my atoms
also, I am not really sure if the feedings stack with each other or not
the code is really difficult to read
and I have only reset once
but when it said I would get 1.06 multiplier and I already had 1.06, it didn't let me reset
18:49
oh boy
so I almost feel like it's not worth resetting until you have like, A LOT of atoms and the game gets really really slow
Now you tell me
I think I'll savescum to test it
nevermind, it stacked 14% on top of 6% for a total of 21%
Awesome
so did you fully unlock everything before black holing?
18:52
@MattGiltaji nope
Love how beer is called "Barley Juice" in this game.
what's the best way to learn about a new boss?
usually in incrementals you don't unlock everything until you have reset at least a few times anyway
fight two of them at the same time!!
I threw my universe in the black hole FOR SCIENCE!
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18:54
@badp Fight it
Yay. I just fixed another Access issue.
@Chippies How big was it?
Apparently, VBA code can deadlock tables to prevent other Access users from using that table.
@fredley didn't pay attention to that, less than a lightyear though
Naturally
18:57
@Chippies I'm at 1.21bkm
I had a few stars after the sun, like 3 or 4 different ones
I'm gonna go to tier above sun probably
Current reset worth 1.14
Want to get higher
Maybe 1.2
@fredley that's what mine was
@fredley That's a long way, I got a couple units past Stellar and only got 1.17
it's probably easier to just keep resetting once you reach ~1.10
18:59
@Chippies pfffffffft
my first reset got me 1.06 and it took me like 10 minutes maybe
then with the 1.14 added to it I got 1.21 total
where did you get the 1.14?
@Batophobia when I reset for the 2nd time
when I was testing if it stacks
@GraceNote Mass Effect 4?
19:02
I'll mass your effect.
3
@GraceNote I'm pretty sure that's unrealistic for the next few years
@GraceNote Maybe later ;)
I think "few" is probably too small a value.
Every time I find myself on Quora I feel dirty and can't wait to leave and come back to SE where the world is sane.
@GraceNote thus I italicized it
19:03
@GraceNote I'll effect your mass
@fredley Keep that up and I'll affect your mass. In a flagrant disregard of the conservation of mass.
I found Rebuild the Universe's UI confusing and stopped after 90 seconds.
My universe is very tiny.
until we can have the power of a nuclear powerplant in a pocket, i.e iron man technology, we're not having portable railguns
Portability's not important it's got a spinny ammo chamber.
There are a lot of stars
19:04
@fredley 12 IIRC
@GraceNote I see you understand what's important in life.
@Batophobia ugh
@Batophobia 14 by my count
19:05
@GraceNote is it an ammo chamber though? I don't see how it's connected to the shooty part
This should be reposted every now and then because it is beautiful.
i feel like death. i love cooler temperatures, but my body does not appreciate going from 50(f) to 90 in the span of 12 hours daily.
@Chippies Lower bound of the ammo chamber is by where the bullet will pop out and enter the rails
@Chippies Bottom chamber
2
There's a helpful blue light right where the hole would be.
19:06
@GraceNote so what's that oval thing then?
the capsule
does the bullet go through it?
@Chippies Probably some part of the accelerator. And yes.
why is there an empty spot between the capsule and the area where the bullet comes out of the ammo chamber?
@Chippies You should ask this on SFF
Some mixture of "Possible technical concerns of adhering the acceleration system to the ammo chamber" and "Aesthetics"
@OrigamiRobot Closed as "Not related to Dora the Explorer"
19:08
This room
This room is the worst
The worst.
The Room is a 2003 independent romantic drama film written, directed, produced by, and starring Tommy Wiseau. The film is primarily centered on the melodramatic love triangle between an amiable banker (Wiseau), his fiancée (Juliette Danielle), and his conflicted best friend (Greg Sestero). A significant portion of the film is dedicated to a series of unrelated subplots involving the friends and family of the main characters. Entertainment Weekly has called The Room "the Citizen Kane of bad movies" and a number of notable publications have labeled it as one of the worst films ever made. Originally...
I guarantee that room is worse.
The real question is how does the armature slide down the rails
It must open up somehow.
@Sterno That room is the best!
it's the best at being worst, like @Wipqozn
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lolwut, my universe went negative atoms
19:12
@badp I hate those enemies
hmm, looks like its calculating based on the system clock...
@MattGiltaji Dark matter?
ISAAC YOU CAN GIVE ME HEART PICKUPS WHENEVER
@fredley antimatter more likely
@badp It knows this, it just doesn't like you
19:16
@Batophobia I got two half-hearts for the boss :|
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Q: Slimes not spawning?

Genesisrising187I wandered around a medium-sized swamp for 2 nights, when the moon was on the Waxing Gibbous and Full Moon phases, and I found 0 slimes during the entirety of that time. Is it just a 1.8 glitch? I have been needing slimes for a long time now, and I'm frustrated that I have found none during the t...

CORRECTION
This room is the worst
Double peep boss?
@5pike Looks like it.
Yeah
Well, you ain't going to like the boss gauntlet room @badp.
19:25
I'm trying to remember which characters I haven't unlocked yet
@5pike Can it give me two peep's at the same time?
I hate peep.
@badp I think the bosses are chosen at random, so you can get some pretty nasty combos.
And yes, peep is the worst
Blighted ovum is worse
What key makes the map full size?
I'm going to assume it's uneligible for double trouble though... right? right? right?
@murgatroid99 Just tap TAB instead of holding it.
19:26
@badp Oh, TAB. I kept trying various letters
@badp Haven't encountered him in rebirth, but in vanilla, I had not much trouble with him
wait I'm not thinking of the right boss again
it's like Peep but with brimstone and both eyes pop out immediately
oh right: the Bloat
@badp yeah, that's the worst
@badp Yeah, THAT one is a fucking bastard
also I don't know why mom's foot is stomping me every 60 seconds
but it's getting old.
maybe it was the toenail
19:31
@badp it was
@badp Yeah, that's it
Hooray for negative trinkets
Does it actually damage you?
@murgatroid99 Yes
Because it does heavily damage enemies
and, in my experience, it doesn't specifically target you, even if there are no enemies in the room
19:31
yeah, it's random
but at the 28th minute it's bound to have hit you two or three times
@badp are you doing challenge runs?
It did once blast open a super secret door
@5pike The Purist, right now
Have you finished "Cat got your tongue"?
Of course these runs could be much easier IF I DIDN'T HAVE TO FINISH THE WHOLE MAP TO FIND THE BOSS
LITERALLY THE LAST ROOM ON THE FLOOR
lost
fucking hell.
ouch
19:37
literally the last
@badp What would figuratively the last be?
@JasonBerkan It'd probably be if the room that connects to the boss fight had doors to other rooms
and those rooms were dead ends
then it'd still be the last, but less so!
@5pike It's locked
or something
what's the challenge number?
wait
It's 8.
Yeah, locked.
I think I know how to unlock it. Wanna hear, or do you prefer to find out yourself?
19:39
Become Guppy?
You said you did that earlier
and it's cat-themed.
Well, yeah, you got it.
blech
This challenge REQUIRES a controller.
@5pike why?
You'll see, I won't spoiler it.
19:43
@5pike I'll never play, but I'm still curious. Please spoiler it.
Document review, travel plans for training, IT'S ALL TOO MUCH!
@StrixVaria I'll avert my eyes.
SE does have spoiler tags, right? Just not in chat?
@Koviko right
in general, block-level formatting doesn't work in chat
very well
It's okay, I'm sure there are already two hundred youtube videos about the challenge
And my manager wanted me to pay for the $2000 course and then expense it! No!
19:46
@StrixVaria Are you familiar with the mechanics?
@5pike Yes. I own the first game (is the new one a patch or new game or what?) but only played it for ~1hr
I don't think anyone here has complained about BoI spoilers
I've been posting screenshots and whatnot willy-nilly
@StrixVaria the new one is a from-scratch remake, with a huge amount of new content
Spoiler Alert: I think you are fighting your mom. (I've actually never played it, so...)
@murgatroid99 For more money or released for free to those who owned the first one (not bitter if it's the former, just curious)?
19:48
@StrixVaria more money, but the peorder was cheaper if you owned the original
I doubt anyone plays BoI for story...
Actually, due to the sale last week, you could briefly pay less for the original and the preorder combined than the full cost of just Rebirth
@5pike What is that supposed to show?
@murgatroid99 The challenge. You are guppy, but you cannot shoot tears. Your means of damage is through guppys hairbal
and some flies.
20:07
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Q: Warcraft 3 like game with first person and commander

SilberlingI can not remember the name of the game. Only that it was something with a 2 at the end. It is a game like warcraft III. But 1 player for each team is the commander and has a strategic view. All other players play minions and can fight and build and play in first person view. Can someone help m...

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Q: How do I access the Binding of Isaac: Rebirth soundtrack?

3venticI have the soundtrack for The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth installed through Steam. Where can I find it in order to listen to when I'm not playing? I found a packed music.a file, but that's intentionally encrypted according to the readme in the same folder, and so it is unusable in a music player, i...

well that's that
an incremental that actually has an ending is rare, and I quite like it
@Rapitor Is that when you have all achievements and everything maxed out?
@StrixVaria it ended after i bought all the 100% booster things
20:27
@Rapitor you can keep playing though
@Chippies yeah
ggod game though
8/10
20:47
If an incremental doesn't take 4 years to beat, why bother?
@FAE @Fluttershy @Others that like Kingdom Hearts Collector's Edition of the remixes, all together
Only available through the Squeenix shop, though.
@Sterno Because @StrixVaria is going to have another tomorrow and I don't want a million tabs open
@Sterno my attention span is 3 hours tops
@Batophobia Nah, I'm trying to only pass along worthwhile ones.
Seems I did ok today :)
Hm. I just got 1000 quantum foam but the last bonus didn't unlock to buy.
Oh there must be one past 1000 or something.
probably should stick to posting ones that are polished and/or close to completion. early alphas are pretty meh, imo.
20:55
My first requirement is that progress can't be achieved solely through waiting.
Kittens have turned me into an incremental snob.
i don't understand, like having to wait for the next upgrade?
No, like in that universe game
As in more mechanics than "wait a billion years and boom you have now won the game, pretty much", I think
You can take any playthrough at any point and I can replicate that by simply waiting X amount of time.
Yeah, it's just Cookie Clicker with like 10x as many tiers.
That's why I pitched it that way in the first place. It's a good Cookie Clicker clone, but that still means it's basic.
The worst part of the game is the pluralization of "nebula" to "nebulas". It's "correct", but I still hate it.
They missed out on a huge opportunity.
21:04
Isn't it supposed to be nebulae?
@OrigamiRobot While this one is objectively better, the other one is "technically" correct.
Interesting.
Nebulasis
Nebolas
neco bolas
21:10
@Sconibulus nicol bolas
YAAAAAAAAAAAY they accepted another story. I'm making money today guys! :D
@spugsley woooo
Speaking of MtG, I just bought John Avon Lithographs
(Not mine)
The Unhinged basics. Nice
Signed too
21:14
@OrigamiRobot very nice
Now to figure out where to put them...
@OrigamiRobot In a sliver deck made of giant cards
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Q: Why did HRE set up an anti pope when the pope is already a vassal?

WjoustsIn my most recent game, the Holy Roman Emperor has set up an anti-pope, but the thing is the current legitimate pope is a vassal of the HRE anyway? So why on Earth did he do that? And aren't I, as follower of the OP (originial pope), suppose to get a CB on the HRE? I don't seem to have an option...

Also speaking of MtG. The 2013-2014 Rookie of the Year got banned recently.
@OrigamiRobot what?
21:29
Sorry, I a few words.
> I'd never cheat at something like this, it's not worth it. Basically embezzling money from a company I own, and I wouldn't do that. Also the videos only show it happening sometimes, and if I thought I could cheat on camera...Wouldn't I just do it all the time and be unbeatable?
Like how you did it to win Rookie of the Year?
@OrigamiRobot I'm trying to make sense of that third sentence
user15026
I survived my first day on the floor and I didn't kill my training partner!
Just so you kids have something to play with.
It's like he doesn't even realize what he's being accused of.
Cheating doesn't guarantee a victory.
21:33
@OrigamiRobot Is there an article about that?
I'm still trying to understand "I'm clearly not doing it because the video evidence only shows me doing it sometimes"
OK, now I see the context. I'm not sure what to think
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Q: Does "stat-growth" mean less max stats?

Memor-XI was reading on the Wiki about the International Version and i read this such as an Expert Sphere Grid, which allows for accessing abilities more easily, but less overall stat-growth. Now i started with the Expert Grid because i remember it looked as if there was less Lock Nodes (as i coul...

> "Try to parse the USB circuit, maybe it will calculate the neural microchip!"
I like that the first question they ask is "How long have you been cheating in Magic: The Gathering events"
21:40
I'm not even sure how that would work.
@Sterno Yeah, that's about right.
I got in late on BoI cards for whatever reason
:(
but I got a foil!
:D
I have yet to get a foil card on Steam.
@OrigamiRobot I want an ounce of Jaces
OK, maybe that middle one was too much
21:48
@Powerlord I think this was my third ever
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Q: Super-Duke vassals vs. King vassals in Crusader Kings 2

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Do people still use Mana Leak? That card was around back in my day!
It's not in standard, but yea.

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