The Bridge

MBraedley

18:00

Ooh, this R&D proposal looks interesting. I, of course, can't talk about it.

djsmiley2k

@Frank time to beat paragon

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I am back to Junction Gate

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

Be Awesome

Proposed Q&A site for those who are looking for, or want to give, advice on a good life!

Currently in definition.

StrixVaria

@OrigamiRobot It's pretty good. I'm going to try to hold out until version 1.0.

Sterno

I don't know what Junction Gate is, but it looks pretty

Rapitor

18:08

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment no problems here

Sterno

This better not be another incremental

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment Seems doomed to fail, as I am the only expert at being awesome.

Origami Robot

What about Skydrift?

djsmiley2k

theregister.co.uk/2014/10/30/… lol wut

Rapitor

@djsmiley2k good intention, poor execution

murgatroid99

@djsmiley2k It always seems a little dumb when people broadcasting messages publicly to anyone who wants to read them complain about privacy concerns in relation to those messages.

That said, there is a good point about malicious uses of the information that app exposes

Yuuki

18:18

@Rapitor #HashtagQuotesWithDoubleMeanings

Rapitor

@murgatroid99 they do it for attention then complain when they get attention

djsmiley2k

@murgatroid99 heh, if you get access to the firehose, or go to the libary of congress you can just watch ALL the tweets.

fuck peoples imaginary privacy

Wait, can I swear here?

Rapitor

i feel bad for the NSA agent assigned to the bridge

7

murgatroid99

@djsmiley2k As long as you don't swear at someone here

djsmiley2k

hah ok cool

/me swears at the mega tonberry he just ran into.

Yuuki

18:20

There are some other extenuating circumstances, but you're usually okay as long as you're not being offensive towards someone (e.g. insulting them).

murgatroid99

@Yuuki yeah, this is what I meant

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Was clarifying that it wasn't an end-all, be-all rule.

murgatroid99

This reminds me of the time that Google got in trouble for recording broadcast SSIDs with their StreetView cars.

Yuuki

But a fairly good guideline.

Rapitor

make a monster

StrixVaria

18:26

@Rapitor "Please download Google Chrome to use this webpage." - Website rendered in Google Chrome.

djsmiley2k

Hahaha I don't have to fight paragon

Lazers

0

Q: is platinum ore harder to find than gold ore?

I know for a fact that worlds have set ores (If your world has platinum, then it WON'T have gold). I also know that platinum has a higher pickaxe level (both platinum and gold serve to mine meteorite). If platinum ore is better, then is it any rarer than gold ore? (side note: platinum and gold o...

terraria

badp

traffic is the worst

djsmiley2k

Nah death is worse.

badp

Death is relief from traffic

but it makes traffic worse

because that's what traffic does, get worse

Frank

18:32

Woo! Proper change request process comes through. Sorta.

Baby steps, and all that.

James

@Rapitor Make a yeti

Batophobia

@badp replace('traffic','@Wipqozn')

Rapitor

@James is a yeti not a monster?

Destiny's DLC made me happy that I didnt get it.

James

18:48

@Rapitor A Yeti is a monster, not all monsters are a Yeti

Powerlord

Rapitor

Damnit Nintendo... stop using logic...

murgatroid99

@Powerlord I just want to register my distaste with this sarcastic "ethics in game journalism" meme

Rapitor

@murgatroid99 eh?

murgatroid99

@Rapitor Because it lumps everyone who had any concerns over objectivity in with criminals and misogynists, independent of what other actions they took, things they said, or groups they associated with.

Yuuki

18:59

@Rapitor Still doesn't mean they can't announce a release date... I don't care if it's next year, I just need to know when.

badp

19:14

@murgatroid99 actually it's about ethics in game journalism

runs

badp

19:24

►

IT HAS HAPPENED

Lazers

0

Q: Why does Diablo 3 apprentice mode change weapons effectiveness?

My co-op partner equipped a higher level weapon with a higher dex and higher attack and just generally all around better stats but his attack went from 11k to 6k and his dex dropped when he equips it. This only happens when he is co-oping on my game where I am a higher level and he scales to my l...

diablo-3 diablo-3-monk xbox-one

Rapitor

@badp great human achievement

max score on tetris

badp

@Rapitor it's basically space age

►

Arperum

I CAN SAVE MINUS 132 DOLLAR.

badp

@Arperum MAXIMUM VALUE

isn't localization fun

Arperum

19:31

@badp Saving a negative amount doesn't sound all that great though.

Also: 4days and 23 hours until rebirth.

badp

@Arperum yes, but I'm sure you noticed why it doesn't say $-1.32

Arperum

according to the store page.

@badp the separator. it parses the EU "," as a thing to space thousands. instead of what it is.

My english is broken right now, I lost words.

badp

it probably just ignores it outright

Arperum

yup, if that "," was a dot it'd be fine.

badp

for bonus points it's € - € → $

Arperum

19:34

Well of course.

StrixVaria

Antelope get! (what am I doing?)

Kevin van der Velden

Wasting time

Frank

@StrixVaria Not working.

StrixVaria

It's 100,000 seconds before the next unlock.

@Frank MY QUERY IS RUNNING

That's over a day.

Rapitor

@StrixVaria you can reduce the time you know

StrixVaria

19:45

@Rapitor Yeah I have had to start doing that.

26.42% bonus if I prestige...

My animals are worth over $3 trillion.

I wish I could get over $3 trillion with 1 day's work by taking out a $40 loan for 4 meerkats IRL.

Rapitor

@StrixVaria open a zoo

for 40$

Frank

That new Legend of Zelda game comes out sometime next year.

Along with the new Xenoblade.

►

I can attest to this being a ton darker than any other Final Fantasy.

It's...actually kinda depressing, at the beginning.

StrixVaria

20:05

Ok I'm done with this fucking zoo.

Rapitor

@StrixVaria you'll be back tomorrow

Yuuki

@Frank Whoo, Xenoblade.

Frank

@Yuuki I never got around to finishing the first one.

I should really do that.

StrixVaria

I want Bayonetta 2 even though I know almost nothing about it.

Yuuki

@Frank I didn't have a Wii.

StrixVaria

20:08

I should probably finish Hyrule Warriors first.

Frank

@StrixVaria It even comes with the first one!

@StrixVaria Hah. Good luck with that.

Yuuki

So I'm kinda excited about playing it the first around on the NN3DS.

StrixVaria

@Frank I mean finish the last like 2 story missions.

Not 100% the game.

I never 100% games.

Frank

@StrixVaria Okay, that's doable.

100%ing the game will take...a long time.

@TrentHawkins and I have been playing it for weeks, and we need at least one more weapon to start unlocking those fun 25,000 kill skills.

LessPop_MoreFizz

HI CHAT

StrixVaria

20:11

@Frank I tried playing as Volga the other day and he seems crazy overpowered.

Origami Robot

@StrixVaria I 100% GAMES IN THE SENSE THAT I PLAY UNTIL I HAVE EXTRACTED 100% OF THE FUN

Frank

@StrixVaria I can't say that I've tried him yet.

StrixVaria

If you just alternate light, heavy, light, heavy, you can juggle pretty much any enemy forever and they can't do anything.

Frank

Lana's my favorite.

StrixVaria

I like Darunia.

Frank

20:12

With a five-star tier 3 book, she's a massive room clearer. Everything dies when she explodes her walls.

StrixVaria

I wasn't a huge fan. She seems to have a higher skillcap compared to other characters, but I really liked the earlier levels where it was constant carnage over the later levels where you had to actually try.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot I 100% URMOM IN THE SENSE THAT I KEEP GOING UNTIL I HAVE EXTRACTED 100% OF THE FUN

StrixVaria

Darunia just crushes stuff, and it's super satisfying.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz So... 2 minutes?

Origami Robot

ROBOTS DON'T EVEN HAVE MOM'S

Jason Berkan

20:14

@OrigamiRobot Robots can build robots.

Yuuki

Did I just burn @LessPop_MoreFizz and @OrigamiRobot's mom at the same time?

Frank

@StrixVaria Not sure I understand what you mean by a skillcap.

Jason Berkan

futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Bender's_mother

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Yuuki You certainly made a noble attempt.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz You know what they say, "An apple a day keeps the doctor away."

Origami Robot

20:17

@JasonBerkan I AM NOT A BENDING UNIT

Yuuki

Yeah, he's a bending paper unit.

Get it right.

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot It was just an analogy, BMO.

StrixVaria

@Frank A higher skillcap, as a general game-related term, means that players with more skill can do better with that character than they could as a character with a lower skillcap. Characters with higher skillcaps are more desireable to more skilled players. Characters with low skillcaps only get so good; even if your skill as a player increases there's only so much you can do with the character.

Skillfloor is a related term which is more relevant to new players. A character with a high skillfloor does well despite a player's lack of understanding of what's going on.

Shotguns in shooters tend to have a high skillfloor, while snipers have a high skillcap, for example. (It's not limited to characters.)

Sconibulus

usually things with higher skillcap have lower skillfloors?

Origami Robot

WAIT WOULDN'T A LOW SKILLFLOOR MEAN A PLAYER CAN DO WELL WITH LITTLE KNOWLEDGE?

StrixVaria

20:23

@Sconibulus The sniper rifle certainly does.

@OrigamiRobot No, the floor is as low as you can go. The higher the skillfloor, the better "as bad as possible" is.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sconibulus That would represent good design, but it is not always the case by any stretch of the imagination.

StrixVaria

Anyway I have to go be on a train.

Origami Robot

I FIND THIS TERMINOLOGY NON-INTUITIVE

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot The floor is a floor on performance, relative to skill.

Lazers

0

Q: What Are the Implications of the Destiny Reporting System

Within Destiny you can report players. At first I thought this was for only negative feedback but after using it to report someone for a negative thing I found out that you can report people for positive behavior as well. I searched around and was unable to find whether any amount of reporting ...

ps4 destiny

Origami Robot

20:25

I GET IT, I'M JUST SAYING MY BRAIN IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO THINK IN DIFFERENT TERMS

Yuuki

Higher skillfloor = "less sucktastic"?

Origami Robot

I AM THINKING OF LEARNING CURVES

Yuuki

Kinda?

Origami Robot

MY BRAIN KEEPS TRYING TO THINK OF SKILLFLOOR AS THE MINIMUM SKILL REQUIRED TO DO WELL

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot If the Y axis is performance, and the X axis is 'skill', then a high skill floor starts pegged to a higher point on the Y axis, regardless of how far to the right you eventually get before flattening.

Origami Robot

20:31

5 mins ago, by Origami Robot

I GET IT, I'M JUST SAYING MY BRAIN IS ACTIVELY TRYING TO THINK IN DIFFERENT TERMS

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah, I was getting the feeling that it described a two-dimensional system.

Origami Robot

I DO NOT REQUIRE FURTHER EXPLANATION

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot urmom requires further explanation.

Fluttershy

You require more vespene gas.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Fluttershy urmom has plenty of gas.

> “I’m trying to help you with your tax status,” Graham says in the recording. “I’m sorry the government’s so f***ed up. If I get to be president, white men in male-only clubs are going to do great in my presidency.”

That's... not a particularly convenient thing to say Mr. Graham.

Origami Robot

20:39

...

LessPop_MoreFizz

THIS MAN IS A SENATOR.

Ronan Forman

@LessPop_MoreFizz That definitely sounds like politician speak.

Kevin van der Velden

Scientists are also sexy, let's not forget that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RonanForman "White men in male-only clubs are gonna do great" is not politician speak.

If anything, it's the exact opposite of appropriate, normal politician speak.

Batophobia

Free Payday 2 masks on Humble Bundle

badp

20:43

@Batophobia OMGOMGOMGOGMOGOGMGOMGOGMOGMOGOGOGMGOGM

Frank

@StrixVaria That's an interesting concept. I hadn't heard of that before.

Batophobia

@badp "...MOGOGO..."

Unionhawk

So TF2 halloween 2014 is bugged to hell

Powerlord

Incidentally, skillfloor and skillcap are why people generally refer to Heavy as a n00b class in TF2.

Ronan Forman

@LessPop_MoreFizz I never said appropriate.

badp

20:45

@Unionhawk BUMPER CARS

Powerlord

@Unionhawk I've noticed it tends to be buggier on Windows server than Linux servers.

I have a US Linux server on sd_doomsday_event right now, but no one's on it.

Unionhawk

Like, on the "pick the right platform and don't fall" one, every car started with the ability to fly just now.

Ronan Forman

@LessPop_MoreFizz I just have a cynical view of people who are detached from real life.

Unionhawk

That went on for way too long

LessPop_MoreFizz

@RonanForman Right, but the whole point of politician speak is that it is meaningless non-speak that is supposed to cover up statements like the one I quoted.

Powerlord

20:47

Still, played on 3 different Windows servers last night and all 3 had hit registration issues. Played on one Linux server and it didn't have hit registration issues.

LessPop_MoreFizz

It's not about whether or not you're cynical, really. Overt racism is just bad politics, and represents going off script, not staying on it.

Powerlord

I was hoping Valve would push an update today to address these issues.

Ronan Forman

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah true, not politician speak then.

Unionhawk

scream fortress is stupid

Powerlord

@Unionhawk The last two years have been kinda letdowns compared to 2012.

Unionhawk

20:49

And this year especially accentuates how stupid it really is.

Powerlord

I mean, I already have most of the achievements and all the Halloween drops I can get from this year.

I played it for 3-4 hours tops.

badp

Meanwhile on Steam

Powerlord

(and yes, I'm counting the melee reskin in those drops)

badp

@Unionhawk Oh for that one you can make things worse with a simple bind l explode

Powerlord

Psst, Valve, hire me as a maintenance programmer for TF2.

badp

20:50

Tap l as you start falling down and you're back in the game much faster (as you don't fall all the way down)

Unionhawk

oh good

Frank

Unionhawk

the whole thing is dumb

Chippies

Apple spent just ONE DOLLAR beefing up the latest iPad Air 2

> In plain terms, all this indicates that Apple is pretty much selling us the same bloody thing as last year, with a few minor tweaks. Very much par for the course.

Frank

And that explains the disparity between poverty level and rich people.

Chippies

20:51

typical Apple

Powerlord

@Frank That seems a bit off... I would expect more on the right side.

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord per day versus per second

Frank

@Powerlord Per day vs. per second

Powerlord

Oh right, I missed that

Yuuki

@Frank That also explains a flat percentage income tax doesn't work.

Or rather, isn't as fair as some people would think.

Batophobia

20:52

@Chippies Does it have an apple on the back? That's really all it needs at this point

Powerlord

86400 times the right side per day sounds more like it.

Martin Sojka

Damn it YouTube why must you be broken???

Chippies

@Batophobia I'm not sure, but for the price they ask, it better do

Origami Robot

@Chippies As much as I hate Apple, this is misleading.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot how so?

Powerlord

20:53

@Yuuki That's why smart countries have graduated taxes.

Unionhawk

They didn't spend 1 dollar developing the thing, it costs them one more dollar per unit to manufacture.

Yuuki

@Powerlord Yeah, but some right-wingers are pushing for a flat percent income tax, I think.

Origami Robot

There could be fewer components, for example.

Yuuki

Maybe. I might be hearing things wrong.

Powerlord

@Yuuki Yes, rich people tend to do that.

Chippies

20:54

@OrigamiRobot are you implying the new ipad could be even worse?

Origami Robot

...

Number of components does not translate to quality.

Yuuki

@Chippies It could bend.

Chippies

> only a few things changed inside the iPad Air 2 versus the original, according to IHS analyst Andrew Rassweiler.

Batophobia

2 mins ago, by Batophobia

@Chippies Does it have an apple on the back? That's really all it needs at this point

Kevin van der Velden

@Yuuki It could blend!

Batophobia

20:55

Does it microwave?

Chippies

> The main change is with the device’s main processor, the Apple-designed A8X chip.

Frank

gaming.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/103113

Does something like this really help?

Powerlord

If you look at the political spectrum, the smart normal people tend to be towards the center.

Chippies

seems to be the only major change

Frank

It seems to be more just regurgitating what's already there.

Chippies

20:57

@Frank it puts the important info in easily accessible format

murgatroid99

@Frank Are you looking at the rendered output?

Jason Berkan

Changing the CPU is a pretty big change in any computer.

Frank

@Chippies The computer specs, I can see. Repeating the mods, not so much.

Origami Robot

The no-frills 16 gigabyte Wi-Fi flavour of fruity fondleslab reportedly costs Apple about $275 (about £167), compared to $274 for the first iPad Air.

Seeing as the iPad sells for just under £400, this would mean Apple is raking in £230 on the sale of every slab.

Also misleading.

Manufacturing costs money

Chippies

@Frank it's minecraft and he has issues with mods, so, why not? The mods in crash report in a horrible formatting

murgatroid99

20:58

@Frank That mod list is definitely easier to read than the crash report

djsmiley2k

@Frank you done 'The last mission' ?

murgatroid99

@JasonBerkan Not necessarily

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot not to mention shipping and handling to the store, and the stores own cut

Frank

@murgatroid99 Yeah, but is it even necessary, is what I'm asking. Just knowing what mods are there doesn't really help.

Origami Robot

Even if it used the exact same components, they could be configured in a way that increases performance.

Powerlord

21:00

I'm not even going to look at the question Frank linked and say the solution is to switch from Java 8 to Java 7.

murgatroid99

@Frank I don't know enough about the subject to say whether the information is helpful. But if it is helpful, I think that the new format makes it easier to read

Unionhawk

@Frank Yes it can, though not necessarily in this case (probably is java, but it might not be, I'm not sure)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies Yeah, this is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen about Apple, and that is saying something.

Unionhawk

@Powerlord Even worse. Java 6.

Frank

@Unionhawk In some cases, yes. It can be. I'm saying in this particular case, just spewing an entire list of mods, is unnecessary.

Edits, even if they're just regurgitating what's in a crash dump, should put effort into bringing forth the details that matter, not just following a standard reformat and dump.

LessPop_MoreFizz

21:03

Even if you take the dumb article assessment at face value, that it costs only 1 dollar more to make...

They're selling it for the same price that the predecessor sold for a month ago.

Chippies

@LessPop_MoreFizz and you know there are people who are going to buy the new one, even though they already have the "old" one

Jason Berkan

@murgatroid99 In this case, the reviews indicate that the new chip is substantially faster.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies Those people are an earth shatteringly small minority.

Also not mentioned in dumb article: The new iPad air is even thinner than it's predecessor.

Chippies

This article has more information btw

LessPop_MoreFizz

Miniaturization tends to have high costs in R&D, but fairly small costs in terms of components.

Chippies

21:05

> Apple unveiled the device at an Oct. 16 event and played up the fact that it’s thinner than the original iPad Air. In promotional videos last year, the original was shown hidden behind a pencil to demonstrate its thin design. In a similar video this year, the pencil was made a little thinner by being trimmed by a laser.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies Component price breakdowns of consumer electronics are moronic. They always have been. They always will be.

Unless you can somehow secure those component prices from a chinese OEM and build one yourself, you are not paying for a bill of materials.

BOM analysis does not tell you what kind of value you you're getting.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz One day, the name "iPad Air" will be literal.

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz I would certainly hope a Byte Order Mark analysis wouldn't.

Mad Scientist

@LessPop_MoreFizz I assume they are useful for competitors that can actually judge the details. For consumers I agree that they are at best useless, and likely misleading.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Powerlord Bill of Materials.

@MadScientist Yeah, they have a place from the standpoint of investors and competitors, but that isn't what i'm referring to.

Mad Scientist

21:08

They usually omit R&D and the retail margin, which is rather misleading

Frank

@Uni I am disappointed in you.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MadScientist Also omits transport and assembly costs

Unionhawk

Okay

Mad Scientist

@LessPop_MoreFizz The ones I've seen often included an estimate for assembly, of course I've no idea how accurate they are at guessing that

LessPop_MoreFizz

Also omits, in the case of a company like Apple, various sunk costs involved in spinning up manufacturing, as they tend to invest heavily in designing/building/buying their own custom manufacturing equipment and processes.

Sterno

21:10

@Frank Or you could just be happy it's in some way, any way better than it had been and not worry about rejecting it because it isn't to the 100% perfect state yet. But of course, I know that's now how you feel about it, or else we'd agree on something, and that would be bad.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Which in turn means that a lot of the BOM estimates, which compare apples manufacture cost to someone screwing a bunch of off the shelf parts together is going to undervalue that assembly cost, if they even bother to.

DwarfSlice

@badp guh

that looks like a terrible position for a stick

Mad Scientist

@LessPop_MoreFizz Apple is likely getting much better prices per part, but probably spends more money in other aspects

Chippies

@DwarfSlice have you not seen playstation controllers?

DwarfSlice

@Chippies Yeah, I hate them.

Chippies

21:13

@DwarfSlice they're actually not that bad

DwarfSlice

> We just wanted to let you know that we've posted a HUGE Halloween update for Crypt of the NecroDancer! It includes new Danny Baranowsky music, a spooky shopkeeper’s ghost, Steam Achievements, a level editor, and more!

Powerlord

Did she not even pick up one piece of trash?!

DwarfSlice

@Chippies I do not like them, although the PS3 one was not as bad as the PS2 one.

Frank

@Sterno So edits should be approved even when adding crap that doesn't need to be there?

Chippies

@DwarfSlice don't ps2 and ps3 have same design?

DwarfSlice

21:14

they're slightly different

also wtf the button quad is in the middle on the steam controller too

gross

Nobody is going to buy this thing

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MadScientist Right. The point is, the numbers are so wrong on every dimension that the whole exercise is basically useless unless you have a very deep need to understand not just 'how much is my iPad worth', but rather, the financial fundamentals of apple as a company.

(and even if you do have that need, you aren't going to get information of that sort that's worth using the paper it's printed on to wipe your ass if you aren't paying a lot of money for it.)

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz "the whole exercise is basically useless" kinda describes the news these days.

Powerlord

Clearly you need Bloody Stupid Johnson's pi to fix the dimensions.

Chippies

they look the same to me

DwarfSlice

they're slightly further apart

Chippies

21:17

hm, maybe

Frank

I don't care about edits being 100% perfect. I care about people trying to bring forward details that matter, not just chucking a crash dump through a template and suggesting that as an edit.

Chippies

I can't find any good photos with them next to each other

DwarfSlice

@Chippies they are

Chippies

@DwarfSlice I guess you are right

Powerlord

Tomorrow is Luigi's Mansion day! Er... I mean Halloween!

btw, has anyone visited the 3DS eShop this week? It's Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon themed, including the music.

Sterno

21:18

@Frank Did it add the crap, or did it reformat crap to make it more readable?

Frank

@Sterno It added the crap by reformatting it.

Sterno

People say you can't polish a turd, but I disagree. You can totally polish a turd.

It's still a turd, but a less offensive one!

Unionhawk

I found the edit to be helpful, so I accepted it. What do you want from me.

Sterno

I would have accepted that edit. It would not have even been debatable for me.

I'm not going to reject something that improves a post simply because I think it could have gone further.

So "chucking it through a template" is perfectly acceptable to me

Particularly from a new user who I am thrilled is taking an interest in improving things

Let's solve this argument by banning Minecraft tech support questions.

Frank

@Sterno It's less about going further, and more about exercising some thought in the process. It sends the wrong message if we just blindly approve edits that don't actually make an attempt to improve the solvability of a question.

Unionhawk

21:27

So basically what you're saying is unless someone knows what's wrong and can point out the right parts of the problem, they shouldn't even bother/that edit should be rejected?

I'm confused

Frank

@Unionhawk No, I'm saying put some thought into it. If you're going to be editing a question, you're obviously trying to improve it. If your improvement is, "Copy crash dump, paste into template, copy template", no matter the question, that's not thought.

Sterno

@Frank I'm okay with sending the message that improving the format of a post without changing the content is a-ok.

Batophobia

@Frank Improving readability is still an improvement, even if all the text is the same

Sterno

If we didn't disagree, something would be wrong.

2

Frank

@Sterno Even if improving just dumps a ton of data that is superfluous as part of the edit?

I don't really call that an improvement.

Sterno

21:30

I'm confused.

Did he alter the format of data that was there or did he add information?

If he just took a hard to read list and put it in bullet points, GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME

Frank

@Sterno He yanked the mod list and just dumped it into the question, without actually adding anything about the mods that would have helped to solve the issue.

Sterno

If he went out to some site and said "Oh, for version xyz of this, it has these 17 specific properties... let me copy them all in" and that's all useless info, then I guess I agree that it's a pointless edit

Batophobia

We are discussing this edit right?

murgatroid99

@Batophobia yes

Unionhawk

yes

Sterno

21:32

Rather than analyze this further, I'm just going to assume you're wrong and that my position that disagrees with you is correct.

murgatroid99

@Sterno The information in the list that was added was copied from the error dump below it

Sterno

It looks like he moved data around and formatted it to be readable. No, he did not filter out useless data. That would have been a good edit too, maybe, but his edit as is was still an improvement.

Time to go home!

Powerlord

Home, home, time to go home.

user15026

@powerlord I am working on the going home part!

Arperum

21:46

@Chippies I finally got some acceptable ring for that greed gem ("only" 10% dps gone) and OMG SO MUCH GOLD.

LessPop_MoreFizz

WAT. (Important Reference.)

Chippies

@Arperum lol told you

that gem removes all the gold issues the game had before

Arperum

@Chippies In a way i didn't image. Like seriously, it's only rank 4 and it's crazy already. I'(m going to level it.

Chippies

@Arperum mine's rank 1 and it's still sick

I will level it eventually though

user15026

22:01

@LessPop_MoreFizz I am confused by this.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Rally Monkey is the Angels mascot.

A dumb store is selling a Giants World Champions Rally Monkey as merchandise.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz I know, that's why I am confused

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn We are both confused.

Hence 'WAT'.

Arperum

@Chippies You know that there is some legendary that gives you extra armor for every bit of gold(1 armor per gold, stays for pretty short time) you pick up? That + this gem = loads of armor I think.

Chippies

@Arperum I have it, but the duration is pretty short so I don't bother

you need to be constantly killing trash mobs for it to work and unless you have really high loot radius, it's not worth it, imho

Arperum

22:04

@Chippies If every enemy killed drops 10k armor, swarms are going to be immortal times.

ifyou max the gem it is 100% chance.

Chippies

@Arperum I guess it could be pretty cool with the gem maxed

and if you're melee

but for my WD, it's very much not worth it

Arperum

@Chippies Yea, I'm constantly on the face of whatever I kill.

Chippies

the thing with melee though is that you already have high armor and the effect is diminishing

I mean, it's nice to have, but it's unlikely to make you immortal :P

Arperum

If I get 200k+ extra armor, it's going to be some bit of a bonus anyway. (The number on the lower right with picked up gold was just telling me 289k gold picked up)

Chippies

@Arperum I think by the time you finish picking all that gold up, the bonus from first stacks is already gone

the bonus only lasts 2 or 3 seconds, iirc

Arperum

22:13

@Chippies , still, at 31% drop chance I can get that number to go over 300k. might be something to look into.

I think Adria is in need of a kill... all these scorpions on the way sound like happy gold time.

Chippies

@Arperum I have got that number over 1m with 25% chance on trash mobs in act 5, doesn't mean I was getting that much every few seconds :P

what is a great piece of armor though, is the bracer that gives exp for each gold you pick up

I've been using that on my WD and it's really good extra exp

although I suppose farming greater rifts would be better exp and gold doesn't drop there

Arperum

@Chippies Yea, I kept the previous 10% more dps ring for greater rift purposes.

Also: paragon 98.

Chippies

I haven't played Diablo in a while, been distracted with other games

Yuuki

@Chippies cough cough incrementals cough

Chippies

@Yuuki AND other games

mostly incrementals though...

WOOO, I just closed incremental zoo! One down, two to go!

Batophobia

22:24

@Chippies Clicker Heroes?

Chippies

@Batophobia yep, and kittens

although I'm losing interest in kittens fast

mmm....

KITTENS CLOSED!

Batophobia

Clicker Heroes is easy to close since it sort-of keeps going even if it's not open

Chippies

BOOYA! CHIPPIES 2 : INCREMENTALS 0!

@Batophobia it doesn't really progress if I don't level heroes up

Batophobia

@Chippies shhhhhhhhh, just let it happen

Chippies

@Batophobia noo, I can't! I won't have any incrementals anymore then!

What do you expect me to do then? Go outside?!

Batophobia

22:28

@StrixVaria will likely have another one tomorrow

Chippies

so far he only posts garbage

clicker heroes was a one in a million miracle

Arperum

Yay! going to kill adria was a good move! got the no crowd control achievements.

The scorpions give not all that much gold though.

Wipqozn

@Batophobia Nah, traffic is much worse than me.

Lazers

22:48

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