The Bridge

GnomeSlice

19:08

@BenBrocka Do they ship to Canada?

Tim Stone

@FEichinger Looks like a repaint issue

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice You live in Canada?

GnomeSlice

Ships to US only. =[

@Fluttershy Yep.

Bagged milk and all that.

Fluttershy

Huh... I thought you lived in England.

Unionhawk

Not sure if serious

Fluttershy

19:10

I'm joking. :P

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy close enough

@GnomeSlice they'll probably be dirt cheap on ebay and such soon I guess. Depends on how much stock Gamestop has to burn I guess

...I didn't realize Gamestop stocked android stuff, they certainly wouldn't in-store

FEichinger

@TimStone I know, I wonder what causes it, though.

Fluttershy

I saw someone buy an Ouya at my local Gamestop. I felt bad for them.

Tim Stone

@FEichinger Which OS?

Fluttershy

Then again, I was the guy who, in a line of dozens of people wanting PS4s and Xbones, asked for a Wii U. So that was awkward.

Ben Brocka

19:16

@Fluttershy they have ouyas?!

I thought only like best buy had them or something

Figured retail wouldn't care because there's no games to sell

FEichinger

@TimStone Win8, running Chrome 38 dev.

Yuuki

♪ I-I-I-I-I/ Hooked on a feeling/ I'm high on believing/ That you're in love with me~ ♫

Yes, I watched Guardians of the Galaxy last night.

Unionhawk

...?

Ah

Yuuki

Love the music.

Origami Robot

@Yuuki Who was best?

Tim Stone

19:19

@FEichinger Hmm, there is some funkiness going on with the various compositing options, you could try forcing them to be enabled in chrome://flags to see if it helps any. I can't repro your issue on Chrome dev/Win 7, but obviously I already messed around with them for other reasons.

Origami Robot

If you don't answer "Rocket", you are dead to me

Yuuki

@OrigamiRobot They were all pretty funny. Except for maybe Gamora.

Origami Robot

Gamora was the worst and that is sad

Yuuki

She didn't really have anything funny going for her. I guess she was the straightman?

Origami Robot

She was there to provide plot info and fall in love :/

Unionhawk

19:20

@FEichinger I'm reproducing this now that I've updated btw

Yuuki

@OrigamiRobot I dunno. I liked that they hinted at it but didn't actually go very far with the Peter Quill/Gamora thing.

FEichinger

@Unionhawk Okay, so it is a rendering bug with the new build then.

Origami Robot

@Yuuki It was still her only character development.

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka They had Ouyas. They stopped carrying them months ago.

Rapitor

poor ouya

Fluttershy

19:23

@LessPop_MoreFizz Sparks Nevada is excellent.

user15026

I am so glad I never backed the Ouya. I considered it.

user15026

@Fluttershy Yes. Yes it is

Ronan Forman

Surely Drax was the straight man.

Origami Robot

@RonanForman The hilarious straight man.

GnomeSlice

80% off Chivalry: Medieval Warfare

Fluttershy

19:24

@AshleyNunn I considered backing a bunch of things. For the most part, I haven't been burned yet... But there's always that chance. Bleh...

Origami Robot

@Fluttershy He's... from Earth.

Ronan Forman

@OrigamiRobot Still counts!

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot He's from what they designated Earth.

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka If you do decide to grab a GameStick, I'd love to hear your sincere opinion of it.

user15026

@Fluttershy Yeah, I really just don't trust the system not to let me down anymore

GnomeSlice

19:30

@Fluttershy I backed Moon Rift and it looks like it's been abandoned.

Part of the risk I guess.

MBraedley

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I was expecting something... a bit different

GnomeSlice

@MBraedley ...Banana?

@MBraedley Hahaha

IndieGala Friday

InFlux <3

Also Rocketbirds, LogiGun, Gateways.

Fluttershy

"The sun will burn out before you see all of No Man's Sky." So says the developer.

Apparently, he's not talking about the sun in the game. He's saying that it would take roughly 5bn years to see all of the planets in the game's world if you spent one second on each planet with no bathroom breaks. O_o

FAE

@Fluttershy Well, randomly generated content and all.

GnomeSlice

That means the planets are probably mostly going to be the same.

=[

I was hoping for more of an Outer Wilds deal

FAE

19:44

@GnomeSlice Also a peril of randomly generated content. "Look, this is the green and orange planet with dinosaurs, blue grass, and yellow flowers!" "Look, that's the green and orange planet with dinosaurs, blue grass, and pink flowers!"

Fluttershy

@FAE I know. It just seems so... unnecessary. :/

FAE

@BenBrocka They sell Ouyas in stores over here too.

Really surprised me.

@BenBrocka Also Hohokum One Night Live is tonight

Yuuki

@Fluttershy Why would you need 5 billion years worth of "content" if pretty much no one is going to play your game for 5 billion years?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Fluttershy Beyond Belief is better.

Fluttershy

@LessPop_MoreFizz See, i didn't enjoy the first Beyond Belief as much as I enjoyed the first Sparks Nevada.

LessPop_MoreFizz

19:54

Also, I can't wait until you people get up to more recent stuff and I can talk about Philip Fathom and the Barkeep and [Redacted] and [Redacted Redacted] and Croaches [redacted]

Origami Robot

Having only heard two episodes of each, I like Sparks Nevada better.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Also Captain Laserbeam owns.

Fluttershy

Like... I thought the technical flubs were funnier than any of the actual dialogue in the first Beyond Belief.

user15026

@Fluttershy Same.

GnomeSlice

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Lazers

20:01

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Q: I cannot get my minecraft password

I made my minecraft account about a year ago and I used my dads e-mail.He changed his e-mail and I cant remember my minecraft password what do I do

minecraft

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice So, after front-view minecraft, we now get top-down minecraft?

GnomeSlice

Pretty much, yeah.

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Isometric Minecraft ^

lol

FEichinger

The irony of the graphics craze vs the graphics downgrade in minecraft clones is amusing.

GnomeSlice

I quite like the graphics for Forsaken Island, actually.

Lantern Forge is kinda ugly though.

And it needs a lot of work before the gameplay is something you can actually have fun with.

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KeeperRL ^

ascii version is totally free

DF + Dungeon Keeper

ish

Blem

I thought magic was not aloud in muggle sports

4

Lazers

20:14

0

Q: Can you add the Collection Helper to your inventory using cheats?

I am looking to add the Collection Helper from the Lifetime Reward to my inventory, but I'm not sure where to find it when you use things like buydebug or testingCheatsEnabled. Is it even possible in the first place to get this item this way?

sims-3

Frank

20:25

@Blem It's not magic. Just a little bit of quantum teleportation.

MBraedley

20:39

Drinking a beer and BBQing supper. Now that's how you start a weekend

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

On the Water

Proposed Q&A site for information exchange by recreational boaters. Whether powered by sail, inboard, outboard or muscle. On lakes, rivers, canals or coastal. Learn and teach how to build, maintain, improve and use all kinds of pleasure craft.

Currently in definition.

GnomeSlice

TIL an apple is a potato

Fluttershy

@MBraedley :( I'm still at work.

GnomeSlice

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment Interesting.

murgatroid99

@GnomeSlice I would guess that it's related to the French translation

user15026

20:45

@MBraedley I have alcohol and 15 min left in my shift!

GnomeSlice

Yeah, probably. Canadian after all.

murgatroid99

In french, "apple" is "pomme" and "potato" is "pomme de terre"

MBraedley

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment I thought there was a similar proposal (although leaning more to the water sports) that got merged with physical activity and recreation.

murgatroid99

@GnomeSlice Oh, right

Frank

@murgatroid99 Earth apple?

Arperum

20:47

@Frank French is weird. For some stupid reason they also refused to use the word "computer", like nearly all other langagues do.

It has to be "ordinateur"

Frank

@Arperum I'm making an educated guess as to the extension of that phrase. I know zero French.

Fluttershy

@Frank Apple of the Earth! Maybe. I speak precisely zero French.

GnomeSlice

Pomme de Terre

Jason Berkan

@Arperum Ah yes. Je suis un programmeur d'ordinateur. And pomme de terre, literally translated would be "apple of the earth".

Arperum

@Frank It is literally translated, correct yes.

Ronan Forman

20:50

@Arperum The French are very protective of their language.

Fluttershy

@JasonBerkan Man I'm good. \o/

GnomeSlice

Also what is 'potato' referring to in regards to a shitty computer?

Arperum

@RonanForman That's the least you could say.

GnomeSlice

I never noticed my e3 post on imgur got a bunch of funny comments imgur.com/a/X9Dsm

lots of potato references, I don't get it

Frank

@RonanForman I suspect this rubs off on their cousins in Quebec.

Jason Berkan

20:51

Quebec fined an Italian restaurant for having Italian dish names.

Arperum

@JasonBerkan That's just stupid.

user15026

@JasonBerkan They have language laws about things needing French on them

user15026

so likely that was what happened

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice Mac Computer > Apple Computer > Ordinateur Pomme de terre.

Arperum

Although over here, there are enough language purist bullshitpeople too.

GnomeSlice

20:52

@RonanForman I don't think that was it

one of them was Potatostation 4

Ronan Forman

Wait, no, the other way round.

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Here's the proper link imgur.com/a/X9Dsm

comments are pretty great

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice I can't see any comments.

GnomeSlice

for some reason the album description doesn't show up so I guess people didn't know it was a joke

wait it's the same link

why is there comments if you get to it from reddit

@Fluttershy reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1g3kvo/…

just click the link I guess

Fluttershy

Nope. Still no comments.

GnomeSlice

20:58

shrug

such potato

murgatroid99

@GnomeSlice knowyourmeme.com/memes/recorded-with-a-potato

MBraedley

Today's listening:

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FEichinger

21:34

@GnomeSlice Comments show up on the gallery page, which you only get redirected to automatically if you're logged into imgur.

Origami Robot

@GnomeSlice If by "lots" you mean "two"

Promi

Hi, would anyone like to play a game of pioneers / settlers of catan? (pio.sf.net)?

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice How do you view comments?

Vektorweg

Pioneers!

Promi

Pioneers FTW!

MBraedley

21:47

Bah, stupid windows updates interrupting my YouTube viewing

Promi

windows? wtf? use linux ;)

James

@Promi /ban

Promi

@James why?

Frank

@Promi Windows > Linux.

Like it or not, it's easier to set up, and has better compatibility with 90% of applications.

Origami Robot

Also, cats love windows.

We all know whatever cats like is best.

MBraedley

21:52

@Promi you do realize you're in the gaming chat room, right?

FEichinger

17 mins ago, by FEichinger

@GnomeSlice Comments show up on the gallery page, which you only get redirected to automatically if you're logged into imgur.

Promi

@Frank with 90% of crappy apps? ;D

SaintWacko

@FEichinger Yeah, I saw that as soon as I sent the message :P

Promi

@MBraedley Gaming is not contradiction to Linux

Frank

@Promi Elitism tends to not help your case.

Promi

21:53

@MBraedley I could even imagin to use games without a computer at all ...

MBraedley

@Promi until the number of games on Steam for Linux at least match those for Mac, you can't talk

SaintWacko

@Promi Linux is catching up, but Windows is still way ahead on gaming

Promi

@MBraedley what is stream?

:P

SaintWacko

@Promi ...what?

Frank

Yeah, this is entering troll territory.

SaintWacko

21:54

@Frank Yeah...

MBraedley

@Promi it's Steam, and you have to leave now :P

Promi

@SaintWacko Since when do you need to have a miniumum amount of players?

Vektorweg

λ> maximumBy (comparing awesomeness) allOS
"Debian/Linux"

Frank

I get you're joking, dude, but you really need to get to know your audience before you make such remarks.

SaintWacko

And definite troll

Nonsensical comments

Promi

21:55

So you are kind of an idiot if you don't use Steam and Windows here?

That's very sad ...

Frank

@Promi We said nothing of the sort.

Feel free to twist our words more, though.

SaintWacko

Promi

I'm not trolling, I'm just pointing out that there are free software games and that I'm trying to reach people to play them

MBraedley

@Promi no, but not acknowledging that the vast majority of PC gaming takes place on Windows is not how you make friends here.

Frank

@Promi And in the process, antagonizing the regular members of this room.

If you're looking for gamers to join you, that's generally not the way to go about it.

Promi

21:57

I'm sorry, English is not my primary language

SaintWacko

I don't even

I don't...

Pvt. Grichmann

Wait, what did I miss?

Vektorweg

Promi has a higher goal than making friends. ;)

SaintWacko

A) Your English is a little too good to play that card
B) English as a second language is not an excuse to be rude

Frank

@Promi You're basically saying, "Hey, anyone wanna play this game with me? By the way, your OS is stupid"

Origami Robot

21:59

@MBraedley Yup, mine just hit too. I was like "Why is my HDD going nuts?"

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Did you set it to automatically install?

Promi

When did I say that any OS is stupid?

Frank

10 mins ago, by Promi

windows? wtf? use linux ;)

Origami Robot

@Frank No, it's just downloading them.

Promi

That was sarcastic, mind the smileys

Frank

21:59

7 mins ago, by Promi

@Frank with 90% of crappy apps? ;D

4 mins ago, by Frank

I get you're joking, dude, but you really need to get to know your audience before you make such remarks.

Unless people know who you are, saying, "It's a joke" doesn't give you a free pass.

MBraedley

@Promi, BTW, if I were running Linux on my HTPC, I probably would have had to restart anyways, because there was a kernel module patch pushed out recently. @Powerlord had to restart one of his machines, I had to restart a dev machine at work, etc.

Vektorweg

well. there are really lots of crap apps on windows and a good amount of crap on linux and mac.

Frank

@Vektorweg Economies of scale.

The bigger the market, the more the junk.

SaintWacko

@MBraedley @powerlord had to restart two days in a row!

Because of kernel updates

Frank

Just look at the app store. Clones, clones, and more clones.

RedRiderX

22:03

@Frank But the perceived amount of junk is important.

Frank

Originality is a bit of a lost art in the mobile market.

RedRiderX

Just like the game market in the early 80's?

Frank

@RedRiderX I wouldn't know; I was a baby then.

murgatroid99

@Promi Unless you use something unambiguous, like "/s", people don't know if a smiley means you're joking or you're just being obnoxious

RedRiderX

@Frank ET came out in 82

But I was more referring to the perceived level of junk in the market.

Frank

22:05

@RedRiderX Dude, I thought Mario Bros. was the best thing since sliced bread when I was ten.

@RedRiderX That has a lot to do with exposure, as well.

RedRiderX

@Frank Well that is arcades

I guess I should have restricted it to Consoles.

@Frank Well ET was a flashpoint

James

Not to take sides even though I guess I started it with the /ban remark, hehe

RedRiderX

The poster child

James

But technically .. PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP and PSVita are linux

Frank

@RedRiderX Well, ok, yeah, you got me there. But ten year old me just figured games were awesome back then.

James

22:07

I dunno about 4 though

RedRiderX

@Frank There were good games

Frank

@James To a degree.

RedRiderX

But the public lost faith in the market because of the perceived level of crap

Frank

I mean, the PS3 allowed you to run a version of linux on it.

James

@Frank I wrote half a dozen games for those systems Frank

Frank

22:08

But I sincerely doubt the core kernel of the PSX platform is linux.

James

They are linux :)

They are not full blown linux installations like Redhat or debain or what not

murgatroid99

@James So you get all of the Linux system calls? Do you also get standard C libraries?

Vektorweg

@murgatroid99 best thing is to stay with both states until you find out whats true. ;)

James

But they are like the linux that runs in your oven or microwave or any other specialized system. Its made to handle the specific hardware.. just happens a console resembles a computer more than a toaster or a TV does :)

@murgatroid99 GCC is what the compile chain tools are based off of

I can not tell you how many times dump files and a good GDB session saved me hours of tracking down a 'This happened once' bug

Its actually a third party company.. second party maybe? They are owned by Sony but they are not Sony.. anywho... Its a separate company that sells the Windows development environments for Sony's consoles.

Been so long though I forget their name.

RedRiderX

@James Really fully linux or just *nix-y?

James

22:12

@RedRiderX *nix-y I guess is the better way of saying it?

Its not really something you want to install an RPM manager on and setup XWindows or the like

RedRiderX

Unix-like

A Unix-like (sometimes referred to as UN*X or *nix) operating system is one that behaves in a manner similar to a Unix system, while not necessarily conforming to or being certified to any version of the Single UNIX Specification. There is no standard for defining the term, and some difference of opinion is possible as to the degree to which a given operating system is "Unix-like". The term can include free and open-source operating systems inspired by Bell Labs' Unix or designed to emulate its features, commercial and proprietary work-alikes, and even versions based on the licensed UNIX source...

James

But its why you could install Linux on the Ps3 when it first came out :D

It all comes down to this

If you claim that linux runs on more systems because its on so many embedded systems

Then one of those systems, no matter how far down the chain in customization, are Sony's consoles.

Frank

@James That's a pretty expansive view of linux.

One I'm not really inclined to agree with.

James

@Frank Its a marketers view of linux... They say the same thing about Java ;)

@Frank Then don't?

Frank

@James That would be why. I be programmer; programmers have narrowly defined definitions, not open, vague kinda-sorta fits definitions.

James

22:15

XBox is to Windows Gaming as PSX is to Linux gaming :)

@Frank Well as a fellow programmer I fear for our field when other people say things like this :)

Frank

@James We have the whole of an entire language to use to define concepts. And it's important that those concepts are conveyed accurately. I fear for our field to NOT define them.

Leave the wishy-washiness to those that don't have technology take them literally.

James

Ok man, I think you are missing a few words here and there from your sentences. but its making them hard to read but that last one, Id like explained. the others I can follow..

Frank

There's no words missing. The whole point of the programmer's field is to nail down language into concrete rules.

Which leads to ensuring that those words are understood correctly.

James

Ok, so I should leave the wishy-washiness to those that don't have technology take them literally

Exactly who are the people that technology is taking literally?

Frank

@James Programmers.

It's literally our jobs to tell computers what to do.

And they do exactly that.

No more, no less.

Origami Robot

22:22

Eh, you've got fancy compilers that tell you when some stuff won't work.

James

@Frank Yeah I am going to stop man cause we are cut from different cloths in the nerd world.

You don't have to believe what I've said, thats fine with me.

But I developed on those platforms for five years. I know what I did for that time in my life.

@OrigamiRobot Says the paper folded or folding robot :)

murgatroid99

I agree with @Frank

FEichinger

Arguing about the difference between Unix-like and Linux is one of the most pointless ways to pass the time ...

Origami Robot

@FEichinger Is that a challenge?

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot No, I absolutely don't want to steer the topic away from this. Not at all. /s #haveyouseenthesarcasmyet #hashtagsarecool

murgatroid99

22:34

From a programming point of view, an operating system is defined most importantly by the system calls it exposes.

James

@FEichinger Yeah I stopped when the hairs got thinner :)

Unionhawk

@FEichinger #notheyarent

Lazers

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Q: The Sims 3-It Won't Update/Can't Use Expansion Packs

Whenever I try launching The Sims 3, it asks me to update, and I press Yes. I just bought the Starter Edition, and I launch it, it doesn't register my new Expansion Packs, as Late Night comes with a map. It said I earned a map when I got Showtime Expansion Pack. The error: