The Bridge

Powerlord

16:00

Well, there's a certain twist of logic there... around the same time we're migrating from SVN to TFS, we're moving our Java app server from Windows Server 2008 to Solaris.

(and from an older Oracle App Server to Weblogic)

Frank

0

Q: There is no game listing for The Hidden Source SDK

I have installed the hidden source sdk beta 4b on my computer and i have made sure that sdk and sdk 2006 are installed in steam but there still isn't a listing for the game how can i fix this problem.

cc @Arperum @Michel

I'm curious how getting this to show up is a development issue.

TZHX

installing / using an sdk is surely off topic, isn't it?

Frank

@TZHX Using, yes. Getting it to show up on Steam seems pretty much up our alley.

We allow other questions about Steam in general. This doesn't seem any different.

FAE

Evening all

LessPop_MoreFizz

@FAE Hi.

Kevin van der Velden

16:12

Hey @FAE

Yuuki

So, I unfortunately did not see the Perseids last night.

The supermoon made it extremely hard to see much of anything else in the night sky.

FAE

full moons around meteor showers are pretty sucky, yeah

Yuuki

@FAE Especially bright full moons suck even more.

FAE

@Yuuki it really wasn't that much brighter than last month's, to be fair

Yuuki

@FAE Ah, it was down here.

Ben Brocka

16:20

pre alpha UT 4 build available neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=873323

(and unlike most companies they mean it, lots of placeholders)

dunno how/if it works, just heard of it and I'm at work

FAE

Zelda Williams leaving social media after receiving abusive messages WTF is wrong with people. >_<

Yuuki

@FAE ...

Why. Just why.

FAE

> Ms Williams received photoshopped photographs of her father's body, entertainment site Just Jared reported.

Why would you ever do this to someone

Frank

@FAE Internet + Anonymity = morons.

Yuuki

@FAE ... This is why we need to pack some form of automated punching device into every computer sold.

Frank

16:26

Some people just get off from trolling others.

user15026

@Frank As true as that may be, it doesn't make it any less horrible

FAE

@Frank That's beyond moronic, that's veering into sociopathic.

Yuuki

@FAE I think there was a study that showed sociopathy is a lot more common than most people believe.

user15026

@FAE Agreed. And we need to stop perpetuating this idea that, well, it's the internet, there will be trolls. That just legitimizes shit like this because "oh well trolls can't help being trolls"> No. Fuck it. You are a nasty as hell human being and that is not okay.

user15026

@Yuuki Aye..

Chippies

16:32

@AshleyNunn trolls can help being trolls, but the problem is that no one else can

user15026

@Chippies I am not sure I understand your sentence.

Chippies

on the internet, no one can really do anything about the trolls, but the trolls themselves

while I don't like the whole "it's the internet, there will be trolls" deal, there's not much we can do about it

FAE

@Chippies I disagree, we can tell social media networks that they should be holding their users accountable for abusive actions and encourage them to have better support for people who are victims of abuse and harassment.

Chippies

also, I really dislike how every asshole on the internet is considered a "troll" now

Jason Berkan

@Chippies Remove Internet anonymity.

Chippies

16:35

there are trolls and there are assholes and the latter is the majority

Yuuki

@Chippies Is this an "all trolls are assholes but not all assholes are trolls" sort of thing?

Chippies

@JasonBerkan it's a double edged sword

@Yuuki Imho, trolling is not always harmful

user15026

@Chippies This is so not even remotely true. Social networks need to be better about holding users accountable for their actions, anonymity or no. Otherwise are are just perpetuating harm.

Chippies

but that's probably just my own made-up definition of trolling

user15026

@Chippies Any time you cause mental/physical anguish to someone, it is not acceptable.

Yuuki

16:36

@Chippies Provoking emotional reactions, and possible trauma, for the sake of your own shits and giggles is pretty much always harmful.

Chippies

@AshleyNunn social networks should do that, but we, as users can't do anything

user15026

@Chippies Report it, report it, report it.

Chippies

@Yuuki I would consider that the asshole territory

Frank

@AshleyNunn I'm not condoning it in any sense. It's human nature for some people, sadly.

Chippies

but I guess trolling is mostly that as well...

user15026

16:37

@Chippies Then I fail to understand what you think trolling is, because it usually involves being a shitnugget to someone.

user15026

And it is rarely funny.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies Yeah, you seem to do this a lot, and the problem is that to the rest of the english speaking world, certain words mean certain things, and people expect those words to mean those things when you and they use them, and it is how communication happens.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz mumbles about signs and signifiers and the signified

LessPop_MoreFizz

I am all for allowing language to change and evolve, but it generally does not happen just because a single person decides that, from now on, they are going to use the word "Bottle" to refer to every four wheeled vehicle powered by an internal combustion motor.

Instead that person is just going to confuse everybody.

Chippies

I'm not sure why are "trolls" called trolls, not assholes, if it's the same thing

but I'm not gonna argue language

Yuuki

16:39

@Chippies Probably because some asshole wanted to avoid being called an asshole.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki I don't think the word "troll" was self-chosen as a way to redefine actions or avoid blame

user15026

@Chippies Because then if we don't call them out directly, but use a different word that moves it to a more "humourous" definition, it legitimizes the behaviour

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies Here's a hint: the specific behavior you defined as being an asshole a few lines up? That's the specific definition of trolling; whereas there is a wide range of behavior which may be defined as being an asshole, which is not trolling, which does not fit that definition.

The word trolling specifically and explicitly refers to behavior, primarily on the internet, done with the intent to provoke a reaction, primarily a negative one.

Chippies

@LessPop_MoreFizz okay

user15026

Like oh, hey, it's okay for person x to be a shitnugget, he's just a troll. Add the whole "don't feed the trolls" mentality, and then a lot of asshole behaviour goes unreported, because we have perpetuated a society where NOT DOING ANYTHING about people making things terrible is perfectly acceptable.

LessPop_MoreFizz

16:42

Trolling is literally and specifically defined as provoking reactions and trauma for shits and giggles. It isn't anything else.

I'm not sure what you could possibly think trolling is other than that.

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn The problem is that when a person's motivations are to provoke a reaction, the best way to demotivate them is to not react

Chippies

@LessPop_MoreFizz I guess by your definition, trolling I'm thinking of could be considered "light trolling"

Jason Berkan

"Don't feed the trolls" also stems from a time (i.e. USENET) where there literally was nothing else you could do.

user15026

@murgatroid99 I am aware. THe problem is, people keep thinking that people will just go away, and they don't.

Chippies

@AshleyNunn report and don't reply

murgatroid99

16:44

@AshleyNunn They might go away, but there are always more to take their place because there is an endless supply of people who want attention

Chippies

usually people do the opposite, they reply and don't report

user15026

@Chippies I. Know.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies this isn't my definition. This is the definition that the whole rest of the world expects the word to mean unless they are talking about norse metrology or the billy goats gruff or something.

Troll (Internet)

In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. This sense of the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, but have been used more widely. Media attention in recent years has equated trolling with online harassment...

user15026

@murgatroid99 Trust me, I am fucking aware of that.

Chippies

@LessPop_MoreFizz by your definition I meant the one you provided

user15026

16:45

@Chippies I am still so confused what you are even describing

Chippies

@AshleyNunn I have stopped trying to describe whatever I was describing, because clearly I'm wrong and I have accepted that every asshole on the internet is a troll

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn OK, I just wanted to distinguish between making a person go away and eliminating group behavior. If you ban every troll you find from your website, the website will still have trolls

Frank

Until you can be held accountable and there are long term repercussions for your actions online, there is very little that can curb trolling behaviour.

It's the lack of consequences that enables them to continue the destructive actions.

user15026

@murgatroid99 I know that, but that doesn't change the fact that the behaviour is not okay.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies No, there are plenty of other kinds of assholes.

user15026

16:47

And I am sorry but I fail to have any sort of understanding or compassion for people who make other people's lives (including my own, frequently) a living fucking hell.

murgatroid99

@AshleyNunn Yes. I agree. I just think that strategies for preventing that behavior need to be more nuanced than just "ban and don't reply"

Chippies

@LessPop_MoreFizz if a person is an asshole and he thinks/says "I'm just trolling", he's still a major asshole and delusional

assholes should be called for what they are, not have "funny" made-up names for them

murgatroid99

@Frank Unfortunately, holding everyone personally accountable for their online actions will have a chilling effect on people with unpopular opinions, views that are illegal in their home country, and others with a legitimate need for anonymity.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Chippies The term 'troll' goes back further than most people in this room have been alive. I wouldn't call it a "funny made-up name".

Frank

@murgatroid99 Therein lies the rub.

There are legitimate reasons for anonymous speech.

LessPop_MoreFizz

16:51

It actually has a fairly specific etymology w/r/t fishing, which funnily enough, is quite similar to the behavior the term describes!

The troll lays down bait... and waits for people to respond so he can harass the shit out of them.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz And then pull them out of the water and proceed to gut and scale them!

murgatroid99

@Frank I personally think that the benefits of anonymous speech outweigh the drawbacks

Yuuki

Followed by possible sauteing with a white wine sauce!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Yuuki Knife goes in! Guts come out!

►

Frank

@murgatroid99 I'm personally in the same boat.

Yuuki

16:53

@murgatroid99 Sure, but we can't just say "benefits outweigh the drawbacks" and stop trying to reduce the drawbacks.

Frank

The actions capable of a certain method of communication will inevitably engender some forms that are undesirable.

But wherein lies the balance?

I mean, right now, lots of lawyers are subpenaing courts to unmask anonymous commenters.

Yuuki

The problem with believing that things are best the way they are is that while it may or may not be true, holding that belief generally means you don't make any progress. Or even try to.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Oh boy. Good Timing LAPD... :(

Frank

Sometimes for good, legitimate reasons (and the one that started this conversation would be one I would wholeheartedly support a harassment charge for). Sometimes for frivolous, petty reasons.

Michel

@Frank o/

FAE

16:56

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh hell.

Frank

@Michel Morning!

LessPop_MoreFizz

America Is Not For Black People; This is Good. This is Important. You should read this.

user15026

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh jesus fuck

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz And we were just 12 years away from most Americans not remembering the LA Riots...

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz That reminds me of the NYPD who choked a man to death: "People think they have too many rights! So this guy resisted arrest, and he died in the process."

Michel

16:57

@Frank Afternoon already :/ 14h (2pm)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Yeah... that's just about the worst description of the Eric Garner fiasco that I can imagine, but... yeah.

(It's still very much an ongoing controversy here.)

Michel

@Frank I read @NoneOfYourBusiness posted the following comment. I usually read comments before questions on close votes, So I read with that as first impression.

Voted for close because questions about game and mod development are offtopic on Arqade. — NoneOfYourBusiness 14 hours ago

Jason Berkan

I know I'm looking at it with rose-coloured glasses, but I have always, always felt that police officers must be members of the community they serve and protect. If your community is 90% black, your police force should be as well.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@JasonBerkan Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha aha aha a ah ah ah ah ah aha ha ha ha ah ah ah ah aha ah ah ah ah aha ha ha ha ahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Yuuki

@JasonBerkan Yeah, but according to that article, while Ferguson may be majority black, St. Louis County itself is majority white. So where do you define boundaries for "your community"?

Michel

17:02

@Frank the SDK on the question isn't "The Source SDK is freely available to all Steam users. It is used to develop mods and content for the Source 2006, Source 2007 and Source 2009 engine branches."

Yuuki

I mean, you can't just have a police station for every four blocks or so.

Michel

So, it'll be about development, right?

If isn't, it should be closed as Unclear.

Yuuki

@JasonBerkan But the article seems to point out that a large part of the problem comes from the mentality that police are instilled with. This whole "War on Terror" thing has turned the police into "soldiers of war" rather than "officers of peace".

Michel

Also, I'm wondering if the questions about the dev-part on divinity-original-sin would be On or Off topic ... but, since the game is so early and I haven't found one around, I didn't "meta" this

Lazers

0

Q: How to itemazation top ad nidalee for max damage?

I play ad nida top a lot lately, I usually get 1-2 dorans and rush triforce, but I'm not sure what should I get after trifoce to max my damage output, should I build like an adc or more like assassin or bruiser? Is hydra good on her?

league-of-legends

Yuuki

17:07

I mean, why are local/county law enforcement being armed with weapons that are, by all definitions, weapons of war (automatic rifles, drones (??!!), etc.)? I mean, exactly how many "terrorist threats" has the LAPD, for example, personally stopped as opposed to the FBI or NSA (that's the intelligency agency that operates domestically, I think...)?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Yuuki It started long before the 'war on terror'.

Jason Berkan

@LessPop_MoreFizz I did preface it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

See also "War on Drugs".

Frank

@Michel I was just curious as to your interpretation.

Because I didn't see it as game development.

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's supposed to be. The NYPD are rather tone deaf to any criticism that they might be wrong.

Yuuki

@Frank Law enforcement as a whole seems to be rather tone deaf to any criticism, but I'm probably glossing over a number of exceptions here.

FAE

17:10

My father was a Corrections Officer in our county police department and jail for 25+ years, so I'm not someone who thinks that all police officers are by default corrupt/awful people. But I know that even at the county and city level in our area (which is small and rural), from stories from my dad, there was a lot of corruption. :/

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Speaking as a New Yorker... that's reductive. The officers in the Garner situation are likely to face charges for one thing. The investigation is ongoing, yadda yadda. The death is no less a tragedy than the one in Ferguson, and the NYPD has a lot of work to do, but there's a whole lot of daylight between how they've handled the Garner fiasco and what's going on in St. Louis.

Michel

@Frank Maybe, it isn't and I was mistaken. But, even so. It should be closed as unclear. In both ways, it come down to the missing parts on the question.

murgatroid99

@Michel The question seems pretty clear to me. They installed a tool in Steam and they can't find it.

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz Likely to, despite their efforts to not accept blame in any fashion.

That's the point I'm driving at. They should be held accountable to the people they claim to serve and protect.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Again, that's not a true statement. Pretty much from the instant the Garner video came out, the wheels started spinning in terms of internal affairs investigation, a homicide investigation, an autopsy to determine cause of death, etc.

Frank

17:13

@LessPop_MoreFizz And all the PR I've heard about is the NYPD screaming their heads off that they're not to blame.

Yuuki

I think one of the radio programs I was listening to put it in a rather succinct way: nowadays, people don't see the police as allies, but enemies. When you see a police car behind you, you don't think "oh, (s)he's here to help me with something" but rather "oh, (s)he's out to get me for something".

LessPop_MoreFizz

All of these things took time; the ME report only just came out calling the death a homicide, and now the DA is preparing charges, last I heard. The suspect isn't a flight risk, he's an officer who has lawyered up, so there's really no rush to do this any other way but right.

@Frank No, you've heard the police officers union screaming their heads off that they aren't to blame.

Michel

@murgatroid99 This part is what I'm struggling ... "but there still isn't a listing for the game how can i fix this problem" I read and read and can't find exactly what he needs. If it's what you said, It is still not a game issue (I guess? O.o)

LessPop_MoreFizz

And you've heard the commissioner of the NYPD, Bill Bratton, rejecting claims that the death was the result of a broader quality of life policing initiative, rather than the result of poor training and an officer possibly severely overstepping his bounds.

murgatroid99

@Michel He's looking in the list of games, but his SDK is in the list of tools. That's why he can't find it. And we handle steam issues even if they're not exactly about games.

LessPop_MoreFizz

17:15

the debate here in NY is not about whether it's the NYPD's fault that Eric Garner died, but rather which specific policies of the NYPD can be put to blame. That's a very different discussion from the one going on in St. Louis, and it's a lot more nuanced and difficult to have.

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz If actual charges are laid and sustained, I'm going to be very surprised.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz The latter not in the least due to the fact that it only happened a few days ago and tensions/emotions are high.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I understand that the reporting on the situation in other countries might lack that nuance, but speaking as somebody from the city, who hears about this story daily, in great detail...

Michel

@murgatroid99 Can you edit his question. I guess I really need to improve my English. It isn't that clear (as it's to you) that this is what he's asking. For me is (was?) about the SDK itself and 4 more do too ( @NoneOfYourBusiness, @Schism, @shanodin, @Arperum )

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Yuuki No, pretty much from day one, these two situations were fundamentally different in character.

Yuuki

17:17

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh, I wasn't talking about the two cases and they are or are not related to each other.

LessPop_MoreFizz

The refusal of the PD in Missouri to even properly investigate the event is shocking and terrifying, and the way that they have responded to vigils, marches, and protests is absolutely gobsmackingly terrifying.

@Frank the ME has already ruled the death a homicide. It is literally just a matter of time.

Michel

T_T Chrome sucks in Yosemite T_T They need to update this asap ... it's SOOOOO SLOW

murgatroid99

@Michel done

Wipqozn

I wonder if @Sterno has given birth yet.

Michel

@murgatroid99 Thanks

casted a reopen vote =)

just missing one more =)

murgatroid99

17:20

@Michel done

Michel

after some discussion with @murgatroid in the chat I casted a reopen vote for this question, since is steam related not the SDK itself — Michel 22 secs ago

@FAE sorry to ask, but ... would it be better debate instead of discussion on the above phrase? (asking you because I believe that you are awesome in lots of things, including English)

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz Like I said, I'm going to be very surprised if the cop is actually convicted.

FAE

@Michel In this case, it's not really necessary to be specific enough to worry about, discussion would be fine. You could use either one here. And haha, thanks?

Jason Berkan

@Michel Discussion implies that you talked amiably. Debate implies you argued somewhat.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank No, you said you'd be surprised if charges were pressed. Now you're moving the goalposts.

Michel

17:24

SPAM!

-3

A: What is the point of Rengar vs Kha'zix anymore?

*rengar=remove him from game plz nerf him every patch for whole of season 3 then rework him then nerf him every patch again rengar is dead remove him from game give me free refund kha'zix dead nerf too much he is never played remove him from game TY PATCH 4.14 REMOVE RENGAR PLZZZZ TOO MUCH NERF...

Kill it with fire! (and get some flag count) :D

LessPop_MoreFizz

(Or just demonstrating ignorance of the process, which I wouldn't hold against you, being Canadian, but... maybe don't make such definitive statements then.)

FAE

@JasonBerkan Debate implies a more civil discussion than just arguing though.

murgatroid99

@Michel That's not what spam is.

Michel

@murgatroid99 o.o

Nani?!!?!?!?!?!

Jason Berkan

@FAE Hence "somewhat". But you are correct. Debate implies a calm and organized argument.

FAE

17:25

@JasonBerkan Minus Bridge debates. :P

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz sustained. As in, upheld.

Michel

@murgatroid99 What's that, and what would be spam?

I always assume that spam was a random text or off-topic one

murgatroid99

@Michel That's not an answer, and it's very low quality. Spam is specifically involves improper product promotion

Michel

@FAE It would be arguing > debating > discussing ?

Origami Robot

@FAE BRIDGE DEBATES ARE ALWAYS CALM AND ORGANIZED.

murgatroid99

17:28

173

Q: What are the spam and offensive flags, and how do they work?

When flagging, there are two special case options: spam and offensive. What is spam, and when should I flag content as such? What is considered offensive content? How does the spam flag differ from the offensive flag? What is the effect of these special flags? Is there any way to remove these f...

support faq flags spam offensive

Origami Robot

WE ARE THE MOST CALM AND ORGANIZED. I WILL FIGHT ANYONE WHO SAYS OTHERWISE!

Michel

@murgatroid99 tks

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot I CALMLY AND LOUDLY DISAGREE WITH YOU. PISTOLS AT NOON!

Michel

~hiding

Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan Jason, no! We're supposed to trick everyone into thinking Canadians are nice!

Frank

17:29

@Michel Did you see the completed pictures of my model?

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn WE'RE JUST GOING TO SHOW EACH OTHER OUR RESPECTIVE PISTOLS.

7

FAE

@Michel Depends on what criteria you're using to organize those.

RPi Awesomeness

Anyone else watch the latest CGP Grey video? It's good...

LessPop_MoreFizz

►

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Grats. That's my first star in a month or two.

Jason Berkan

17:30

@Wipqozn I'm half-American, so I can be partially mean.

RPi Awesomeness

@OrigamiRobot:

Lazers

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Q: Minecraft server lagging alot on a certain server, worked fine before

I was playing on this server ( play.minecraftcc.com ) and it was working great aside from a little crafting lag, but today suddenly it lags alot, I can't talk, open chests etc. It seems that other people are on the server, and it seems to work for them, but not for me suddenly. I live in Europe a...

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0

Q: When is Statikk Shiv better than Phantom Dancer?

I've really been trying to get good at the marksman/AD Carry role lately, and itemization for the role has been fairly confusing for me. A lot of guides recommend Statikk Shiv now, and I still don't understand why. Phantom dancer is statistically much better in terms of damage output, so of cour...

league-of-legends

-1

Q: What was the game developers crew size back at Nes - Genesis times?

I just wanted to know how many people worked with those games.

genesis

Origami Robot

MY WORK HERE IS DONE

RPi Awesomeness

lol

Michel

@Frank The last link you send me I saw 80% of the images, then the boss came and I lost the link... since then I haven't being able to come here and ask for the link again, and now I forgot because of @murgatroid99 was explaining some stuff and I lost track

Jason Berkan

17:33

@LessPop_MoreFizz Mmmm. Tomacco.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot Showing your pistol to a baby in a pants optional environment is a considered child endangerment at a minimum in most jurisdictions.

5

RPi Awesomeness

lol

Michel

@murgatroid99 I wish that this post was a "must read" when the user start being able to flag stuff :X

@murgatroid99 thanks a lot =D will not make the same mistake again :3

Frank

@Michel imgur.com/a/aY7KV

Michel

@Frank !!! tks again =D

RPi Awesomeness

17:36

@Michel Models?

Frank

I've decided to take a break from building models until next month.

I worked super hard on that one, to get it ready for next weekend.

Michel

@RPiAwesomeness I like to "watch" ... I don't have the patience to craft that stuff =(

Origami Robot

@LessPop_MoreFizz WHAT IF THE BABY ALSO HAS A PISTOL?

Michel

@Frank Why next week was a "must"?

btw ...

THIS kind of patience!

Frank

@Michel We have a convention coming up, and we have a few tables to show off our stuff.

RPi Awesomeness

17:37

@OrigamiRobot WHAT IF IT DOESN'T? Aha! I've caught you out!

Frank

@Michel I love that shade of metallic grey. It's so gorgeous.

Michel

@Frank Eeyup!

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot Nope. Doesn't matter how well equipped the baby is.

Frank

@Michel That picture is actually unpainted.

RPi Awesomeness

eeee...I don't like computers that are smarter than meeee..... D:

Origami Robot

17:40

@LessPop_MoreFizz YOU HUMANS ARE A CONFUSING LOT

SaintWacko

@Michel Is that a bottleship project?

Frank

@SaintWacko Nope.

Powerlord

@SaintWacko C-4

Oh wait, you didn't say Battleship

RPi Awesomeness

@Powerlord BAA BOOMA!

Does anyone here know/like the comic Foxtrot?

Michel

@Frank You were talking to this kind of grey, right?

If not, my mistake =X

Frank

17:43

@Michel Yep. Those are all painted.

And damn if it doesn't look freaky like that.

RPi Awesomeness

Michel

@Frank When you said "I love that shade of metallic grey. It's so gorgeous." I thought about that one that I posted (the dark one) the first image looks more "plastic" less "metal"

Frank

@Michel That's how it came from the kit, unpainted. The first pic, I mean.

Wipqozn

Jason Berkan

What's up with Sulu's eyebrow?

Michel

17:47

One good one, but not sure if it would work on the model, would be a black color "fosca"

Frank

@Michel That's a matte black, it looks like.

Too dark for what I'd be going for.

Michel

@Frank I believe the word that I'm looking for is "darksome"

o.o

MATTE!

that's it!

xD

never used this word before >.<

Frank

I prefer gloss myself, as I want my models to shine. But some subtle matte effects wouldn't be out of place, I don't think.

Origami Robot

I PREFER MATTE, EVEN ON METALLICS

Michel

@Frank For the "black" part (skeleton) I would like the matte version better (not sure until I see). because I think it would highlight even more the golden part (armour)

Frank

17:58

@Michel Well, they're supposed to be giant robots, made out of metal (or some reasonable approximation thereof). So I figured a nice metallic grey would stand out rather well. And boy, does it ever.

Michel

@Frank The model is amazing! no complains whatsoever. I just think it's a possibility, and maybe it'll be as awesome as it's now

Frank

@Michel Everyone has different interpretations of how things should look.

That's one of the beauties of gunpla.

Michel

uhum ^.^

This kind of question make me think that the person thinks that we are the server support ... But, I don't know squad of Minecraft servers. Maybe it's a good question :P

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Q: Minecraft server lagging alot on a certain server, worked fine before

I was playing on this server ( play.minecraftcc.com ) and it was working great aside from a little crafting lag, but today suddenly it lags alot, I can't talk, open chests etc. It seems that other people are on the server, and it seems to work for them, but not for me suddenly. I live in Europe a...

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I mean, he should provide a LOT more info, so we could help

Frank

@Michel We get lots of questions like this. Generally, they tend to come from new users who have no idea how things work in the backend, and therefore, don't provide any of the information required to be able to help.

Michel

I wonder if the person who voted as unclear could explain

Origami Robot

18:04

I FIND THAT FLAT METALLICS GIVE IT MORE A MACHINED/BRUSHED LOOK WHILE STILL BEING SHINY

Michel

@OrigamiRobot LIKE WHAT KIND OF FLAT METALLICS?! DO YOU HAVE AN IMAGE TO EXAMPLE THAT?

Frank

@OrigamiRobot The paint I used was a metallic grey lacquer. I'm not sure if it was gloss or matte or whatever.

Origami Robot

Michel

@Frank So, it's valid as "unclear" and "low-quality (down-vote)"

Origami Robot

THE BRASS/COPPER ON THOSE IS FLAT

Frank

18:06

@Michel Yep.

Origami Robot

THE BLACK IS GLOSS

Michel

@OrigamiRobot !

Frank

I've got a pale gold that I'm going to use on the inner frame of my next model. Just by itself, it looks good, but you can buff it to make it shine more. It's going to look fantastic.

Origami Robot

I SHOULD REALLY DO ANOTHER NERF GUN

Frank

@OrigamiRobot I suspect much disassembly happened to paint that.

Origami Robot

18:08

@Frank IT'S NOT SO BAD. KEEPING TRACK OF ALL THE SPRINGS IS THA HARD PART.

Yuuki

@Michel This look good?

Have you contacted the relevant server support? We are not affiliated with play.minecraftcc.com (or any other Minecraft server) and are not equipped to provide server support barring minor troubleshooting. — Yuuki 1 min ago

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, I have little tupperware containers for all my bits and pieces.

Origami Robot

Kevin van der Velden

@OrigamiRobot Oh great, I just remember I now know a store that sells nerf guns

Yuuki

I followed up with:

It seems you can find support either through the forums or through a bug report on Minecraft CC web site. I highly suggest you use the forums as I don't think personal server lag is considered a "bug". — Yuuki 49 secs ago

Kevin van der Velden

18:09

Modding one might need to happen sometime

Origami Robot

I WANNA DO ONE OF THESE WITH WOOD GRAIN VINYL

Michel

@Yuuki Eeyup, perfect. Thanks ^.^

Origami Robot

THAT'S THE "GIRL VERSION" I HAVE THE "BOY VERSION" AND IT'S TOO ANGULAR FOR THE WOOD GRAIN PLAN

Michel

@Yuuki Votes casted =)

Yuuki

@OrigamiRobot ... That looks somewhat familiar...

Eh, that might be a stretch.

It's just a general giant friggin' box pistol design.

... Now I want to try making one of those out of a Nerf gun.

Origami Robot

18:15

OH MAN, THE GIRL VERSION COMES WITH A HOLSTER

Rapitor

Michel

brb

Yuuki

Yeah, just a generic "futuristic" box-like pistol.

@Rapitor Although I have to wonder whether all that metal below the barrel is really necessary.

Michel

back

Rapitor

@Yuuki stability?

Yuuki

18:18

@Rapitor Mmm... you'd probably want more mass on the handle portion of the gun for stability rather than the barrel end. Granted, I'm not anywhere near an expert on either gun design or recoil physics.

Rapitor

It is from tribes... so wanting it to make sense is kind of out the window from the get-go

Yuuki

Yeah. You'd think weapons designed for military use would be more utilitarian though.

Michel

A college of mine said something that I think is hard to believe... He said he lost his Minecraft account (at majong's) because he made an exploit of a bug and made a server lost his data (and they didn't have backup).

Yuuki

"Don't waste metal that could be used to make another gun" and all that.

@Michel Man, your entire college had a Minecraft account?

Michel

He said the server was the from the same owner of "Desteria"

Kevin van der Velden

18:20

@Michel Highly unlikely, why would mojang take the servers word for it?

Michel

@Yuuki colleague

Yuuki

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, I highly doubt that Mojang would remove an account because of hijinks with a third-party server.

Rapitor

@Yuuki "metal shortage? what's that?"

Yuuki

He might have meant that he lost his account as in character data because the server lost his data as a result of either the exploit or the admins banning him from the server, but I dunno.

Michel

me too, but I had to confirm it =)

LessPop_MoreFizz

18:23

Rapitor

@LessPop_MoreFizz wut.

Michel

@LessPop_MoreFizz lulz

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz Battlefield 5: St. Louis

First xpac is Streets of Los Angeles.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@yuuki you joke, buuuuuuuttt...

►

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz I'm not sure I can ever joke about this kind of stuff anymore.

Rapitor

18:27

i feel dirty for saying I want that game ;l

Yuuki

@Rapitor Largely due to Kevin Spacey.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@yuuki @rapitor just watch House of Cards instead.

Rapitor

@Yuuki definite if i can bring him into MP

FAE

@LessPop_MoreFizz This

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz Eh, I'm not going to get it. I'm just saying if I ever have an inclination for it, it'll probably be 100% due to Kevin Spacey.

Not any actual interest in the game itself.

LessPop_MoreFizz

18:29

@yuuki and I'm saying that House of Cards is the best thing Kevin Spacey has done in at least a decade and you ought to watch it.

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz Once I have Netflix again.

Rapitor

give me a jetpack and lots of pew pew and i'm generally pleased. Titanfall is great, but I do wish it was more "robust" which is basically what the new cod will be.

Yuuki

@Rapitor Didn't Halo 3 and Reach have jetpacks?

murgatroid99

@Yuuki not 3, 4

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 I thought they introduced armor abilities in 3. Or was that Reach?

murgatroid99

18:32

@Yuuki It was reach

Yuuki

@murgatroid99 Oh yeah. There was just something amazing about killing someone with the ground punch off the temporary invincibility armor ability.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki My favorite was using that ability to throw sticky grenades off

Yuuki

Or that one clip where a guy sniped his teammate because his target ducked down for the ground punch.

Michel

I didn't have worked today afternoon at all =(

so sleepy >.<

murgatroid99

Of course, that ability was completely OP, so I'm glad they removed it

Yuuki

18:34

@murgatroid99 Yeah, it was a pretty ridiculous "oh s---" button.

murgatroid99

@Yuuki Basically, one button to survive rocket launchers, remove sticky grenades, destroy vehicles, and remove enemies' shields.

Lazers

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Q: How can I turn Notability into storable value?

I'm getting ready to take a hiatus from Fallen London: my main stats are in the high 160's, I've finished all of the available content, and much of the dev team's effort is aimed towards Sunless Sea rather than adding more content to Fallen London. I'm not particularly interested in grinding for ...

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Powerlord

OK, remind me again why SO doesn't have a migrate to Programmers option again? Just saw someone ask a theory question on SO.

Mad Scientist

@Powerlord Because more than 30% of migrations were crap and closed on Programmers

murgatroid99

@Powerlord Theory is not necessarily off topic on SO. And depending on the question, it might be a better fit for CS than Programmers

Powerlord

18:49

@murgatroid99 ...we don't have a migrate option for that either. But hey, we have one for TEX!

murgatroid99

@Powerlord And still, it's not necessarily off topic

Origami Robot

I NEED A $5 THING FROM AMAZON TO GET FREE SHIPPING

MBraedley

@OrigamiRobot HDMI cable or 2

Origami Robot

I DON'T NEED ANY

Rapitor

@OrigamiRobot 5$ amazon gift card

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