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user20683

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Raven Dreamer

00:12

Hm. Was hoping Tom Wijsmmin was here.

Rebecca Chernoff

ahem

in Gaming Town Hall Chat, 1 min ago, by Rebecca Chernoff

The Town Hall Chat will take place Tuesday the 16th at 10pm UTC / 6pm EDT.

Raven Dreamer

Thanks @RebeccaChernoff. Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to make it.

user20683

same, working

Rebecca Chernoff

Can't win 'em all.

):

@RavenDreamer we'll be happy to take your responses to the questions and add them to the digest that will be posted on meta afterwards.

FallenAngelEyes

@RebeccaChernoff woo

Raven Dreamer

00:17

Nope. But c'est le vie.

@RebeccaChernoff Okay, sounds like a plan.

Rebecca Chernoff

Just add them in the THC room afterwards / the next day.

Raven Dreamer

Darn it, Tom, get in Chat!

Rebecca Chernoff

(just use explicit replies please so they're linked to the question you're responding to to make it easier)

Tim Stone

(if you don't, I'll be forced to kill you)

Raven Dreamer

Heya, @TomWijsman

Tom Wijsman

00:20

@RavenDreamer Here now, you seem to disagree with that tag?

Raven Dreamer

Glad you got my message.

Yeah, as per meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/2429/…

We shouldn't be promoting balance as a tag, because we don't want to promote game-balance questions in the first place.

Tom Wijsman

@RavenDreamer: I agree that they are indeed are not questions that are based on an actual problem; good point.

I just noticed that there were more questions about it, given 9 pages of questions containing 'balance'.

Raven Dreamer

@TomWijsman - Apologies, but I don't understand your first sentence at all.

Tom Wijsman

So, I thought it didn't hurt to tag them. But now, I guess I can better go and vote to close them? :)

Raven Dreamer

Okay. Yes. @TomWijsman I'd definitely vote to close some of them.

Tom Wijsman

00:24

@RavenDreamer Corrected that sentence, I'll look into them after a pause.

Raven Dreamer

But only those that are directly asking about balance, not a question like, say...

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Q: Are melee and/or unarmed builds more useful now than in Fallout 3?

I recall the general consensus being that in Fallout 3, melee and unarmed character builds were practically useless due to the lack of very good weapons and armor. From anyone's experience, are things different in New Vegas? It seems as though, generally speaking, the developers tried to balance ...

That question has an objective answer.

user20683

Would a question about the current status of the Wing Commander series be valid?

Lazers

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Q: What level do I need to be to purchase Tier 3 runes?

I just hit level 20 and have lots of saved IP that I was going to use to purchase the tier 3 runes, however apparently I can't. All the runes in the store still say "level 20+" in red, and double clicking on them or whatever else does nothing. I've re-logged and it's just the same. Do you need...

league-of-legends

Tom Wijsman

Is the Town Hall Chat on?

CruelCow

@TomWijsman In 21 hours as far as I understand: wolframalpha.com/input/?i=10pm+UTC+on+Tuesday

Tom Wijsman

00:32

Ah, woops, that's from last year...

Rebecca Chernoff

You should be able to see the local time on the event: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/269/…

CruelCow

I love wolfram alpha

Tom Wijsman

@CruelCow: Yeah, I saw like the chat and I was like are they busy so I scrolled up to see the start, but apparently Rebecca just added three messages at the bottom. Seems I got to be there at Brussels 00:00.

Rebecca Chernoff

There wasn't a time everyone could do it...I did the best I could. (:

Tom Wijsman

So, @RebeccaChernoff: I can be there.

Raven Dreamer

00:35

"Starts in 21 hours (in your timezone, that's 18:00 on Tuesday), lasts 60 minutes. "

Rebecca Chernoff

@RavenDreamer hey whaddya know! (;

Raven Dreamer

@WorldEngineer what do you mean? (re: wing commander)

user20683

I know EA released a XBLA type deal in 2007 but since the no activity

John

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user20683

and the old ones don't appear legally available

user20683

00:39

outside Privateer

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice - I disagree with that guy, for the sole purpose that he didn't mention the Super Smash Bros (N64) commercial

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user20683

youtube.com/watch?v=p-nbWPNvJao&feature=related - This is kinda neat

GnomeSlice ツ

@RavenDreamer Why did I never see this.

Raven Dreamer

00:55

Because your google-fu is weak, grasshopper!

user20683

I still think the Meat Boy retro ad captures that era better than many of ads at the time

GnomeSlice ツ

I never really thought to look.

Dave McClelland

I'm always amazed at how often valve screws up tf2 updates

Apparently they just completely broke windows dedicated servers :\

forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2059987

I've been looking for an hour thinking that I updated my server wrong. Gah

GnomeSlice ツ

Indie Game Links: Iconic Creators http://t.co/t5doMh3

Tweeted by indiegamescom on August 15, 2011 at 8:30 AM

Powerlord

Oh, FYI... Apparently the Steam Beta client also has some other fixes.

"Fixed offline mode not working if there was no remembered password"

Apparently that's why Offline mode worked for some people but not others.

@DaveMcClelland btw, did you install the second server update?

I don't know about Windows servers, but there were two Linux server updates today.

Dave McClelland

01:02

@Powerlord Yep, both updates are installed. I hope a third update is on the way :/

CruelCow

How about announcing the Town Hall Chat in the site notice?

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Powerlord

I just realized that I need to go onto a TF2 server that has the plugin to spawn the HHHH so I can melee him as a Demoman at the last second and get the haunted metal.

On my alt account that is.

That way, I can craft a clean version of one of the Halloween hats.

Lazers

01:42

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Q: Baldur's Gate: once I replace a party member, can I ever get him back?

Playing BG1 in BGT When I meet a new npc and he ask me / i ask him to join the party, if my party is full I can remove one of the previous member. But while some stay wherever I left them, other just leave out of the screen (Khalid for exemple), is there a way to get them back later on if I want...

baldurs-gate party-members

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Q: How do I get past level 8-4 in The Last Rocket?

I have stared and stared and stared at level 8-4 of The Last Rocket and can't for the life of me figure out how to get to the exit. I've flown from each corner of the left and right wall. I've tried walking and flying through what looks like an opening to the right of the bottom fan. I've tri...

spoiler last-rocket

Mana ಠдಠ

01:53

Can we get one more close vote here?

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Q: Starcraft 2 Patch 1.1

Starcraft 2 Patch 1.1 Details came out, in a nut shell Blizzard is trying to balance out damage against armor units and to provide players with better rush defense/counters. How should I start preparing for these changes?

starcraft-2 patch

user20683

done

Mana ಠдಠ

@WorldEngineer Whoops. :x

user20683

best I could do

Mana ಠдಠ

heh

fair enough

user20683

flag it as ot?

Mana ಠдಠ

01:56

shrug Personally I don't use flags to call mods to close things, but I guess you could.

user20683

you've enough rep to vote to close, I don't here

Mana ಠдಠ

I know, but I think someone else with over 3000 rep will find it soon.

user20683

only site I've got even close to that is Programmers

user20683

my taste in games tends towards the odd and the old

Mana ಠдಠ

it's not an easy number to get

FallenAngelEyes

02:00

@Manaಠдಠ Had already cast a vote on it :/

Good night all

Mana ಠдಠ

niiiight

GnomeSlice ツ

Halostep

I like this more than I probably should.

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice Mind to throw another close vote on the SC2 Patch question up there? It's localized.

oh

nvm it's closed

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ Uh... oops.

Yes... I didn't cast any votes of any kind... reopen or otherwise.

Mana ಠдಠ

> reopen (1)

user20683

02:07

I think balance questions can be closed anyway, even if they aren't local since balance is typically subjective or even if statistically backed, the stats are often flawed/overly-simplistic

Mana ಠдಠ

god damn it GnomeSlice. ;_;

user20683

that's politics chief

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ Hey, isn't that usually where the close button is??

user20683

rofl

Mana ಠдಠ

Yes. Yes, it is.

GnomeSlice ツ

02:09

It's not my fault it was a reopen button this time instead...

Mana ಠдಠ

Damn it, I'm pretty sure this is the first time you've brought tears to my eyes. Tears of laughter but regardless.

this is disregarding all the tears I sobbed during that last agonizing month of comp sci with you

jk it wasn't that bad

Yo @simchona

simchona

Hey @Mana. Decided to straddle EL&U/Bridge again

Mana ಠдಠ

heh

Tad quieter this evening compared to last time. It's mainly me and my dwarf lover @GnomeSlice

Also WorldEngineer. HI WORLDENGINEER.

user20683

there's a space there you know

Mana ಠдಠ

I tend to forget when I get lazy with tab-complete.

GnomeSlice ツ

02:16

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Great music video, or greatest music video?

Mana ಠдಠ

It's classic.

GnomeSlice ツ

It's creepy.

user20683

I'm with Gnome on this one

Mana ಠдಠ

I'm sort of frustrated! I got DSL installed at my house but it was put on the wrong phone or something and it doesn't work.

Dave McClelland

@Manaಠдಠ Did you install phone filters?

Mana ಠдಠ

02:23

Yes

Dave McClelland

@Manaಠдಠ Oh - I'm afraid I've gone through my entire catalog of debugging DSL connection issues then

Mana ಠдಠ

heh

GnomeSlice ツ

@WorldEngineer Don't get me wrong. I love it.

simchona

02:41

Moo.

user20683

moo

user20683

I wish they'd do a FF8 and 9 in HD

user20683

with voices and all that

user20683

I mean the FF7 fans have had their nostalgia milked

user20683

I wish to have mine milked

simchona

02:49

Have your what milked?

user20683

nostalgia

user20683

for final fantasy 8 and 9

Lazers

0

Q: In Yakuza 3 does the Tokyo Ishun magazine become unavailable?

I'm in chapter 12 in Yakuza 3 and am trying to access the hidden menu options in restaurants and bars. However while I may have once seen the magazine necessary to unlock these items I seem to be unable to find the magazine at any of the M stores I've visited. All I can find online is that I sho...

yakuza-3

Mana ಠдಠ

@MRNOVEMBER WHERE ARE YOU

sjohnston

03:06

So speedtest says I have 17mb upload right now. Yet a 15 minute 1080p Youtube video is taking approximately 9 bazillion hours to download.

garbarjarbarjaba

Mana ಠдಠ

Donaudampfschifffahrtselektrizitätenhauptbetriebswerkbauunterbeamtengesellschaft‌.

sjohnston

@Manaಠдಠ yeah, that's what I was trying to say

simchona

@Mana, don't you think sjohnston should meet aedia?

Mana ಠдಠ

@simchona Love at first sight.

Lazers

0

Q: Cloth bags from pig tails?

What are the steps to go from pig tails to cloth bags? The wiki says the process plants/thresher skill is used to turn the pig tails into thread. I used the spin thread task, and my dwarf that has plant processor enabled has never gone and done it.

dwarf-fortress

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Q: Any benefits to running minecraft in a 64bit environment?

I'm wondering if I was to run minecraft in a 32bit or 64bit ubuntu server; would there be a benefit (speed improvements) or something else, or just the same? Downsides?

minecraft

Mana ಠдಠ

03:14

@GnomeSlice You'll understand soon.

sjohnston

@simchona Is this going to be one of those Matrix things? Because I don't really like pills. Or having the veil of comforting false reality stripped away.

GnomeSlice ツ

So far, Revenge of the titans is probably my favourite game from the humble bundle

That or Crayon Physics, but I'd played that long ago.

aedia λ

Unicorns?

simchona

@sjohnston Nope.

Yay! Aedia came!

sjohnston

@aediaλ UNICORNS

aedia λ

03:16

@sjohnston YAY!

Mana ಠдಠ

boom, screen-capped

simchona

@sjohnston, @aedia we'll let you two frolic in the rainbow fields

aedia λ

You should have tried to get z7sg for a threesome.

sjohnston

@simchona It's night here, so I'm actually frolicking beneath the swirling starscape of the milky way.

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aedia λ

@sjohnston Come over to EL&U sometime for coffee with @z7sg and me!

sjohnston

03:18

@aediaλ Sure

aedia λ

jumps up and down Yay, yay, yay, unicorns!

Mana ಠдಠ

saves unicrons.png

GnomeSlice ツ

Unicrons?

What is this, Transformers?

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice I haven't referenced Transformers: The Movie in a long enough time

aedia λ

@GnomeSliceツ Like microns but even harder to see.

GnomeSlice ツ

03:20

Eunuchrons?

Mana ಠдಠ

also, Bah Weep Granah Weep Ninni Bong

GnomeSlice ツ

...On second though.

aedia λ

@GnomeSliceツ I have a fully functioning horn!

sjohnston

@GnomeSliceツ Unicrons are the time-dilating particles produced by unicorn rainbows. That's why unicorns appear to be running in slow motion, multi-colored manes cascading in the wind, hooves lingering above the churning loam. And so forth.

Mana ಠдಠ

GnomeSlice ツ

03:21

@Manaಠдಠ <3

sjohnston

@Manaಠдಠ It's like a very localized April fools day

aedia λ

@Manaಠдಠ Awwh.

simchona

03:39

@Mana We're like unicorn matchmakers! "Making the impossible happen"

sjohnston

Hmm, dang. I don't think I'm going to be around for the mod election town hall

GnomeSlice ツ

@sjohnston I probably won't be trolling it this year either.

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice I present to you my latest work of art. Ponycron.

GnomeSlice ツ

I don't even want to~

Wat

@Manaಠдಠ You just wasted 15 minutes of your life.

Mana ಠдಠ

@Gnome The Movie Unicron, not animated series Unicron

@GnomeSlice I know. But it was so worth it.

GnomeSlice ツ

03:46

See, I don't think it was.

simchona

I think its cute ^^

Mana ಠдಠ

@simchona It devours worlds. Entire frickin' planets. But yes, it is cute IMO too

simchona

@Manaಠдಠ I'm a girl. I just care about the cute part.

GnomeSlice ツ

@simchona That's... no.

simchona

@GnomeSliceツ But...but...but I want it

Mana ಠдಠ

03:51

@GnomeSlice If I said I want your body now, would you hold it against me?

random dubstep interlude

GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ Yes, Britney, Gawd.

And you quoted it incorrectly anyway.

simchona

@Manaಠдಠ Jeez, how many people in here are you dating?

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Mana ಠдಠ

@simchona All the people. shades

GnomeSlice ツ

DATE ALL THE PEOPLE!

simchona

@GnomeSliceツ You remind me of the starfish in the Charlie the Unicorn 3 video

GnomeSlice ツ

03:53

@simchona Is that good?

simchona

@GnomeSliceツ Well, he goes through a song...let me find it

GnomeSlice ツ

I like this already.

simchona

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Mana ಠдಠ

I can't even remember what happens in Charlie the Unicorn 2 or 3.

GnomeSlice ツ

@simchona That's a shitty recording.

simchona

03:55

@GnomeSliceツ It was the top Google hit. Bite me.

GnomeSlice ツ

@simchona nom

simchona

@GnomeSliceツ Did you find the starfish?

GnomeSlice ツ

I like this starfish guy.

I can relate

STARFISH, LOVE ME, LOVE ME

Mana ಠдಠ

@GnomeSlice Take it from me, that's how you approach the ladies. And the gentlemen. Both of them. Everybody.

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GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ I WANNA BE WITH YOU FOREVER

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Segue

Mana ಠдಠ

03:58

@GnomeSlice Man, I don't think they could have chosen a better image for that song.

simchona

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GnomeSlice ツ

@Manaಠдಠ Me neither.

simchona

This was right next to it.

GnomeSlice ツ

@simchona No. No.

sjohnston

You really can't beat the original music video for that song

GnomeSlice ツ

03:58

Yes, it's the song from the game.

Robot Unicorn Attack.

Well it was FEATURED in the game.

sjohnston

oh man, what is it about that song. It's so ridiculous, and yet every time I hear it I just want to listen to it on repeat for hours

simchona

@sjohnston Which one?

GnomeSlice ツ

@sjohnston Don't get me started.

user20683

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user20683

The official version

GnomeSlice ツ

03:59

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I got just over two hours into this.

sjohnston

@WorldEngineer YESTHIS

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