The Bridge

SaintWacko

20:00

We're not evolving the best car

Kevin van der Velden

And realise how fucking close they are considering one is a fricking MAMMAL

SaintWacko

We're evolving the best car for this track

Ben Brocka

weird isolated environments are how some very unique species come into existence though

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko YES BUT MUTATING THE TRACK WOULD MAKE IT LESS OF A COMPETITION

THERE WOULD BE NO WAY TO COMPARE PERFORMANCE

GnomeSlice

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Gah, I can't figure out how to use 3DVCE

> Lee Graham has also included a TARDIS in the simulation, which when moved into can teleport the camera back to the original spawning point.

lol why

SaintWacko

20:04

@OrigamiRobot If the tracks mutate differently, yes

Origami Robot

@SaintWacko EVEN IF THEY MUTATE THE SAME

MY 100 WOULD NEVER BE THE SAME AS ANYONE ELSES 100

Frank

They're turning into a sharkmobile.

Ben Brocka

211!

Origami Robot

MY BEST CAR SUCKS. I WANNA START OVER

Sconibulus

I really need stickier tires

Kevin van der Velden

20:08

Ductape on all the tires!

I like how in one of my tabs all the wheels are black and the body light, and in another it's the opposite

Frank

Does tire color matter?

Kevin van der Velden

Jeah, darker means it's denser

Same for body

Also, page 335 in Words of Radiance

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot If you use smaller mutation size/rate they get better for the most part

Frank

I've had about a dozen generations stuck at ~135.

Ben Brocka

I've had at least that many at 198. SCrew that pit

Origami Robot

20:11

@BenBrocka EXCEPT MY BEST CAR IS AN OUTLIER IT GETS AT LEAST 50 FARTHER THAN THE REST

Ben Brocka

I'm pretty sure the chasm makes any car that passes it an outlier

Origami Robot

@BenBrocka MY BEST CAR IS THE ONLY ONE THAT PASSES THE SPIKES NOW

Kevin van der Velden

I like how sometimes my cars just do random backflips

Ben Brocka

Usually only 3-4 of mine pass the spikes in any given run

Kevin van der Velden

Also they're all ready for a joust with a giant pin on their fronts

Ben Brocka

20:13

what was fun about moon gravity is they'd do flips all the time

Frank

Woo! 170!

GnomeSlice

so yeah mine stopped getting better

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka This

Ben Brocka

wow 5 of mine died right out of the gate

Arperum

@BenBrocka Only 5? I have on average 6 or 7 death at the start.

Ben Brocka

20:20

my cars are now mostly wheels

Frank

How does it determine which ones to bring over from the previous generation?

GnomeSlice

@Arperum I rarely have any like that any more.

Ben Brocka

@Frank top N

Frank

@BenBrocka Top of what, though.

Furthest? Longest lived?

Ben Brocka

distance

I assume

GnomeSlice

20:21

My cars are mostly very similar now.

Kevin van der Velden

Increase mutation chance/rate then

GnomeSlice

@KevinvanderVelden No, this is what I was going for.

I'm at 3% rate and 10% size

Ben Brocka

I made rate/size lower so they would be similar, so iterations would be mostly better, less chance of regression

GnomeSlice

3D Virtual Creature Evolution

3D Virtual Creature Evolution, abbreviated to 3DVCE, is an artificial evolution simulation program created by Lee Graham. The website is currently down. Its purpose is to visualize and research common themes in body plans and strategies to achieve a fitness function of the artificial organisms generated and maintained by the system in their given environment. The program was inspired by Dr. Karl Sims’s artificial evolution program, Evolved Virtual Creatures, in 1994. The program is run through volunteers who download the program from the home website and return information from completed s...

I always wanted to try that but my PC was shit

SaintWacko

I think we should start over with a new seed: "Bridge"

Origami Robot

20:24

@Frank DISTANCE

@SaintWacko DO NOT BLASPHEME

SaintWacko

And Moon gravity

Kevin van der Velden

I think we should start with the seed "Good Morning, Bridge". If just to mess with @OrigamiRobot

Ben Brocka

I just started a moon/bridge to see how it would go

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Me too

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Woof, there's a big cliff a little ways in

SaintWacko

20:25

Wait, bridge or Bridge?

GnomeSlice

Bridge

Why moon gravity?

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka

Kevin van der Velden

Cause SPAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE

GnomeSlice

@KevinvanderVelden That's a reason?

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Beca- yeah, that

Kevin van der Velden

20:26

@GnomeSlice it's a reason for everything

SaintWacko

Also it's awesome watching the cars fly through the air

GnomeSlice

Moon Gravity is stupid

But I don't think we'd get over the hill in Bridge without it

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Your gravity is stupid

Kevin van der Velden

It will cause all the cars to evolve to be the heaviest they can be

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice watch them in moon gravity, it's hilarious

GnomeSlice

20:27

@BenBrocka Stair Dismount is hilarious

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Yeah, this is why I want it

GnomeSlice

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Turbo Dismount is hilarious ^

and also on steam

badp

Every day I rediscover how dumb people are

SaintWacko

Has anyone made it past the hill on Bridge yet?

badp

Every day I surprise myself

GnomeSlice

20:28

@SaintWacko Define 'past'.

SaintWacko

It seems... unlikely

GnomeSlice

I stuck some wheels over the top and then rolled back.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Then no :P

GnomeSlice

Oh, nevermind, I just got several cars past it.

Actually past it.

Ben Brocka

@SaintWacko no I only see a peak on my chart

GnomeSlice

20:28

> #1: 155.29 d:151.69 h:0/7.95m (gen 11)

Kevin van der Velden

I reached the top of the hill! Then found the hill on top of the hill

SaintWacko

@KevinvanderVelden :O

GnomeSlice

Good god, there's another hill

Ben Brocka

I have 172

Kevin van der Velden

Oh wait, that hill?

#1: 174.25 d:170.93 h:0/14.13m (gen 2)
#2: 174.25 d:170.93 h:0/14.13m (gen 3)

GnomeSlice

20:29

this seed sucks

SaintWacko

fuuuu

GnomeSlice

that first one where the box is is the first hill

then there's a bigger one

SaintWacko

Okay, trying "bridge"

GnomeSlice

gg

Ben Brocka

it's all hills

SaintWacko

20:30

nope. nopenopenope

Jason Berkan

> The terrain gets more complex with distance.

Ben Brocka

yeah most seeds are going to be hell past ~180 I'm betting

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko No, wait.

We're on moon gravity

Mine are already making progress up the cliff

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Yeah

Ben Brocka

136 on bridge

Kevin van der Velden

20:32

#1: 153.96 d:151.19 h:0/12.4m (gen 0)

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka bridge or Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

on bridge

Ben Brocka

lowercase

SaintWacko

lower case bridge is interesting without being ridiculous

Ben Brocka

I was making it farther on Bridge for some reason

SaintWacko

20:32

I think we should switch

1: 149.27 d:146.81 h:-0.07/8.49m (gen 2)

GnomeSlice

"Arqade" seems like a good seed

Kevin van der Velden

Uhm, I've gotten 174.25 on generations 2 through 7 on Bridge

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Try "Arqade"

On Uranus Gravity

SaintWacko

Ooh, @GnomeSlice is right

2

Ben Brocka

Currently at 150 on "mobile hitler"

SaintWacko

20:35

Arqade is cool

Although I'm on moon gravity

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Arqade on Uranus

Do it

Moon is for nerds

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Yes, and?

GnomeSlice

Just do Uranus

Frank

Just scraping along.

FEichinger

@BenBrocka Yeh, that one is tough.

SaintWacko

20:36

@GnomeSlice ...

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko NO HOMO

Ben Brocka

aw man I had a unicycle!

SaintWacko

I'm sticking with moon gravity on Arqade

Lots of fun flying cars

Origami Robot

@FEichinger REALLY TOUGH.

Ben Brocka

maybe Mars would be better?

SaintWacko

20:36

Ahaha

Ben Brocka

mobile hitler lives up to it's name

Origami Robot

IF @FEichinger SAYS IT'S TOUGH, IT'S TOUGH.

2

SaintWacko

The view was following a car, and then it shifted straight up to another car soaring over it

Kevin van der Velden

Cars don't like it when you switch the gravity from moon to uranus

Apparently they all counted on landing on their heads xp

FEichinger

> #1: 146.12 d:140 h:0/8.54m (gen 2)

bridge, that is.

GnomeSlice

20:38

@BenBrocka what gravity?

SaintWacko

184 on Arqade

Ben Brocka

moon

SaintWacko

Arqade is awesome

Ben Brocka

trying mars on Arqade

GnomeSlice

Arqade on Mars is pretty cool

SaintWacko

20:39

moon gravity is best gravity

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka That's what I'm doing

Origami Robot

@FEichinger YOU'RE DOING BRIDGE? I SHOULD DO BRIDGE TOO.

SaintWacko

I'll restart to do Mars on Arqade

#1: 12.45 d:11.16 h:0/2m (gen 1)
#2: 12.41 d:11.12 h:0/2m (gen 2)
#3: 3.92 d:3.42 h:0/2.86m (gen 0)

...

Kevin van der Velden

Mars gravity is also pretty fun

spugsley

HI GUYS

Kevin van der Velden

20:40

Hey @Spugs

SaintWacko

@spugsley Hello!

spugsley

@SaintWacko I'm going to be ordering prints in the next week so if you know which one you want, that would be handy :)

SaintWacko

@spugsley Ooh, can I get a link to the flickr again?

I wrote down a bunch of my favorites

spugsley

@SaintWacko flickr.com/photos/slpugsley

:)

GnomeSlice

There's a really tricky bit at about 190 in Arqade

so close

spugsley

20:42

@SaintWacko I'll send you an email so I can get your address and what not :)

GnomeSlice

Seriously, you guys should check out 3D Virtual Creature Evolution

Origami Robot

@spugsley ANSWER ME YOU POOP!

SaintWacko

@spugsley Do you have my email address?- Ah, guess so :P

spugsley

@OrigamiRobot NO I DIDNT

@SaintWacko yeah from the ticket sale :p

Origami Robot

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

Frank

20:45

I may keep this running while I'm playing RoS tonight.

GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice is best seed

SaintWacko

161 on Arqade/Mars

Frank

Most of my cars have tips sticking out of the rear wheel, to stop them from tipping over during acceleration.

They're drag cars!

GnomeSlice

> #1: 190.82 d:186.96 h:-8.53/4.74m (gen 32)

Arqade/Mars

At another sticking point.

user15026

Zoo keeper saves monkey's life by licking its butt

3

Frank

20:56

135 kills so many cars.

SaintWacko

On what?

Yuki

What are "elite clones"?

Frank

@SaintWacko Gir Uranus

SaintWacko

@Frank Meh. That's old hat

All the cool kids are on Arqade/Mars

GnomeSlice

190 on Arqade is brutal

Anybody get past it yet?

@Yuki copies of the best car from the last run

> This is not as deterministic as it should be, so your best car may not perform as well as it once did.

Coronus

20:58

@GnomeSlice The hill ~140 is killing me.

GnomeSlice

Like Stair Dismount, cars don't always behave exactly the same way

@Coronus You on mars gravity?

I got over that one pretty quickly

Coronus

Yes.

SaintWacko

I got over it earlier, but now my cars are getting stuck

GnomeSlice

buh

Coronus

Well, I'm on gen 10. Let's see what the future holds.

SaintWacko

20:59

Top Scores:
#1: 161.44 d:156.45 h:-7.75/2.82m (gen 26)
#2: 161.43 d:157.41 h:-7.76/2.82m (gen 24)
#3: 161.14 d:156.94 h:-7.75/2.82m (gen 16)
#4: 160.52 d:157.07 h:-8.03/4m (gen 25)
#5: 159.06 d:154.46 h:-7.74/2.82m (gen 33)
#6: 158.65 d:154.48 h:-7.75/2.82m (gen 27)
#7: 158.4 d:153.96 h:-7.76/2.82m (gen 11)
#8: 158.38 d:153.71 h:-7.76/2.82m (gen 10)
#9: 158.36 d:154.18 h:-7.75/2.82m (gen 20)
#10: 158.1 d:154.01 h:-7.75/2.82m (gen 21)

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