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Raven Dreamer

22:03

Suggestions for Tags for the meta-question? I've got "Design"

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer That's probably fine.

Raven Dreamer

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Q: Are we happy with Gaming.SE 's current Logo?

It's been mentioned in chat a few times that the logo for our site is... potentially ambiguous at best. The Favicon being a heart has caused a stir -- apparently some people think that, because of the Favicon and the logo, we're some sort of dating site. Clearly, we're not. However, I do think ...

What dimensions are Favicons supposed to be, anyway?

Brant

16x16

sstatic.net/gaming/img/favicon.ico

Feeds

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Q: Starcraft 2 race usage statistics?

Previously in the beta I heard Blizzard was making balance changes based on the usage % and win % of each race. I have no idea if this was true, but the idea intrigued me. Are there statistics available to the public? I am very curious what the usage statistics for each race are.

starcraft-2

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Q: Are we happy with Gaming.SE 's current Logo?

It's been mentioned in chat a few times that the logo for our site is... potentially ambiguous at best. The Favicon being a heart has caused a stir -- apparently some people think that, because of the Favicon and the logo, we're some sort of dating site. Clearly, we're not. However, I do think ...

discussion design

JavadocMD

@RavenDreamer If I remember correctly, the favicon file format actually supports multiple sizes in the same file, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, etc.

This allows the icon to size up if needed and supported.

Brant

22:12

.ico files support various resolutions, but website favicons can be in any image format.

Raven Dreamer

Paint has granted me the ability to produce: i.imgur.com/L6Ap3.png

Brant

browsers try to retrieve /favicon.ico by default unless a different one is specified in the markup.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer If that isn't a dating or adult site, I don't know what is.

Raven Dreamer

Well, there's a reason I'm not a graphic artist! :P

Brant

Oh, my mistake, it can be 32x32 according to wikipedia

JavadocMD

22:14

That's right, I meant the .ico format specifically.

Raven Dreamer

Brant

I don't know what browsers will do if they're given an .ico that only contains a 128x128 image, though. Probably just ignore it.

Raven Dreamer

What 'about that? Does that look like an adult/dating site?

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer It looks a little more like a dating site.

Brant

Two hearts is definitely a dating site. Three is either a life bar or something to do with polyamory.

JavadocMD

22:16

I would think the hearts should be of the same size.

Raven Dreamer

In some games they are, in others they aren't.

I think Zelda specifically has the current "top-most" heart pulse slowly.

JavadocMD

That could be an argument for anything.

Raven Dreamer

Hence, I made the 1st one bigger.

Ivo Flipse

the problem is, technically you would want the heart to represent something like +1 you gained a new life

but then you're singling out games that actually use that interface

Wow or CoD don't use hearts

Raven Dreamer

@IvoFlipse I don't follow

Also, we've got a heart now. Saying three hearts is bad because hearts are bad does not make any sense.

Ivo Flipse

22:18

I'm saying the current logo was designed, because it doesn't represent any game

Fabian

Maybe a half-full heart would work, but I don't think we'll escape the dating site confusion with any heart-based favicon

Ivo Flipse

changing it, would probably make it look like A game

Brant

To a certain extent you can claim that any variation of a heart could be mistaken for a dating site, though... where does it end?

Ivo Flipse

which would 'favor' that game/platform, which we don't want

the logo should be game-agnostic

Brant

JavadocMD

22:19

Perfect!

GnomeSlice

Awesome.

Ivo Flipse

the only thing I'd like would perhaps be a +1 on it

just to match the upvoting scheme

Brant

Gamers looking for their +1! Create your profile TODAY!

GnomeSlice

Fabian

@Brant Now in 32x32 pixels ;-)

JavadocMD

22:19

Ah, design by committee. Works every time.

Raven Dreamer

I think "Lifebar" would be a pretty cool name for a site.

Brant

also I think there should be a creeper in the corner because I like minecraft

Raven Dreamer

I think it'd be even more "OMG THAT"S A DATING SITE" however.

GnomeSlice

Also, I think there should be some guns in it, because people play games with guns.

And wheels, because there are racing games.

Ivo Flipse

I don't want to hang out in a bar @RavenDreamer

Raven Dreamer

22:21

Gun with wheels:

JavadocMD

Hmm.. okay so I'm getting "Heart with wheels wielding a gun and pickaxe, wearing a wizard hat"

Arda Xi

Maybe make half of the logo in one portal, and make another portal on the right side of the page with the other half. People play Portal after all.

Brant

slow down, I can't keep up with you guys

GnomeSlice

Heh.

Arda Xi

@Brant Needs moar portal.

Ivo Flipse

22:22

googlethis.blogs.linkbucks.com/files/2009/05/…!

GnomeSlice

You need Angelina Jolie in there too.

Just draw some lips.

Ivo Flipse

wheels with guns

JavadocMD

Creeper watches you date, I mean game.

Raven Dreamer

Why on earth would you strap your arms to wheels, and your legs to the chassis?

As soon as you start moving forwards BAM you've been dis-armed.

I guess crunch would be more likely, actually.

badp

@Brant +2 for thre creeper.

Brant

22:24

Don't forget the shoulder-mounted rocket pods

JavadocMD

@RavenDreamer That's how twisted it is! 2!

badp

Also you totally need a guitar.

The creeper should be playing it.

Raven Dreamer

Hell, put the whole system. People have asked Rock band questions here.

Brant

Okay, screw you guys, I'm going back to writing user interface code.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Axel IS the chassis. Twisted Metal is really weird.

Feeds

22:25

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Q: Kinect: Can it be used to play DVDs and videos

I just kinect and its pretty cool, a few minor irritations for a technology as cool as this its well worth it. (irrittations such as a small lag in game, but then the sensor is only 50cm from the floor and not in the specification, and having told you hand up forever before it selects the menu, ...

kinect

badp

@Brant Oh and the kinect, let's not forget about it. The creeper should be doing ballet.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer yvettesbridalformal.com Here's an excellent example of meticulate design.

Raven Dreamer

Oh god, my eyes.

You've blinded me. You've literally blinded me with chaos.

GnomeSlice

See if you can find the media player to stop the music.

badp

@RavenDreamer Try the goggles!

StrixVaria

22:26

Our site should look like that

GnomeSlice

And wait till you see the 'roap-map' detailing 'directions' on how to get to their new site.

StrixVaria

I want the questions to each appear in a div at a random location instead of in a nice list

GnomeSlice

Hold on, I'll find you a link because you'll never find it on your own.

yvettesbridalformal.com/Yvettes_New_Location1.html

badp

@GnomeSlice you know so much about it, did you design it?

GnomeSlice

@badp Sadly no. I reviewed it as part of a project in web design class.

Raven Dreamer

22:28

@Badp Ze goggles, zey do notzing!

GnomeSlice

I think I had the words "eyeball-raping" in there somewhere...

badp

GnomeSlice

There it is.

I see Skeet in there.

Arda Xi

Ooh, sneaky.

JavadocMD

Those directions are super easy to follow. Just find the part of the ground that's purple.

Raven Dreamer

22:29

What? You mean Texas and Florida aren't really Pink?

badp

All in favour of scrapping the heart for a guitar-playing car-driving ballet-dressed creeper say aye!

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(Don't drive and ballet.)

GnomeSlice

With guns!

StrixVaria

What about fighting games?

badp

@GnomeSlice The guns are mounted on the car.

StrixVaria

He needs a sword

badp

22:31

@StrixVaria You punch creepers, that should be enough fighting.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Think Bayonetta. Gun-swords!

StrixVaria

Or Squall's gunblade from FF8

GnomeSlice

@badp That should be our slogan. " Punch Trees. Get Wood. "

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badp

Creepers asplode, so that covers physics sandbox games too.

Raven Dreamer

@GnomeSlice Well, that'd bring "Is it an Adult or Dating site" back into question. :P

GnomeSlice

22:33

@RavenDreamer I suppose you're right.

StrixVaria

I have wood for sheep.

Raven Dreamer

Have Sheep, need wood!

badp

Punch Sheep, Get Wool.

Raven Dreamer

StrixVaria

That sentence is literally the only thing I remember about how to play Settlers.

Ivo Flipse

22:35

does anyone play WeRule on the iPad?

GnomeSlice

@IvoFlipse I used to have it on my iTouch, but got rid of it.

StrixVaria

I don't have any iThings

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Adult site warning

Arda Xi

I like Catan now that I got that sea-faring expansion for one reason only.

It comes with a frame, so that the board pieces don't shift all the damn time.

JavadocMD

I've never seen a Catan set without a frame...

Maybe early editions?

Arda Xi

22:38

Then again, I can never get two other people together to play it, so that's pretty much €60 wasting away in a cupboard.

I've never seen one with frame, actually

This is the normal version.

Raven Dreamer

@ArdaXi I have the same problem with "Diplomacy"

JavadocMD

Ah weird. I don't think the newer editions are printed like that.

Raven Dreamer

That game requires at least 5-6 people, and I can count on one hand the number of times that's happened.

Ivo Flipse

thank god you said people not friends, else more of us would never be able to play it ;)

GnomeSlice

Dinner's up. Ciao.

Ivo Flipse

22:41

bon appetit

Raven Dreamer

@IvoFlipse It's Diplomacy. You may start the game with 6 friends, but you leave as 7 strangers.

And now I too, am off.

GnomeSlice

I dislike stir-fry.

I can't believe how well that video assignment turned out, considering how little I had to work with.

Must be my magical editing fingers.

Arda Xi

@RavenDreamer Wait, you add someone? How long does that game take?!

GnomeSlice

Arda > 6 friends + you = 7 people.

Arda Xi

@GnomeSlice I was joking, but thanks.

GnomeSlice

22:54

My bad.

R.I.P. Bubble man. He had somethin' to say. :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

bit.ly/bYUjco

"From your favorite 'Mechanical Narwhal-Inspired Equine Quadruped Assault' game comes this beautiful creation. Always."

sjohnston

@LessPop_MoreFizz spamming "Add to Cart" as we speak

GnomeSlice

That's pretty awesome.

►

I've never actually played Zelda II, but now I want to.

LessPop_MoreFizz

23:11

GnomeSlice

^ Heh.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Also, you should play Zelda II

Yea, it's kinda the Black Sheep of the series, but it was a really creative game for it's time and it's actually pretty awesome.

although having the final battle spoiled like that video does kinda sucks.

GnomeSlice

@lesspop > Spoiled? You mean by the vid?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Yes.

GnomeSlice

That wouldn't have surprised me.

LessPop_MoreFizz

23:21

the last boss of Zelda II comes completely out of nowhere, and it makes perfect sense given the structure of the game and it's really pretty fantastic.

@GnomeSlice It wasn't a cliche back when Zelda II did it.

GnomeSlice

It happened in Ocarina of Time. Which came later, but I've played it.

Oh well, if I ever get around to playing it, I'll have forgotten it by then anyway.

I still like their Megaman II song the best.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Point is, that final battle turns the whole narrative on it's head, and reframes it from 'journey to save the world' into 'journey to save yourself' and casts a whole new light on everything that had come before and it is awesome.

Feeds

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Q: Starcraft 2 -- legitimately download?

I bought a copy of Starcraft 2 from Amazon, and while I'm waiting for it to arrive, I'm curious: Is there a way for me to legitimately obtain a digital copy of it immediately?

starcraft-2 download digital-distribution legitimate

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Q: Proxy games (udp+tcp/ip) through a remote Ubuntu server

I want to run a game client on my windows machine, but route the traffic through an Ubuntu server located in another country. I know this will likely hurt latency, but that's not the main concern here. What software should I install and how should I configure it on the remote Ubuntu server to ma...

gaming proxy

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