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16:00
well almost lagless, 2ms input 30ms display, less lag than most TVs introduce
But I figured that I might as well spend $3 on games I don't have time to play as $20.
@BenBrocka yeah, I don't think their shit's fully optimized or making "smart" decisions yet. I think also there's a 15Mbit/s cap on the video frame rate regardless of the network situation
gotta run to a meeting, bbl... happy to talk streaming, just ping me :)
@agent86 I noticed it was amazing even on wireless, but they really need to allow insano bandwidth for gigabit ether
Speaking of Steam Beta clients, the new server Steam account tracking system should be going in to it soon if it hasn't already.
Granted, TF2 is the only supported game for this, but basically servers will be tracked by their Steam account instead of IP for the Favo(u)rites list. If the server is registered.
Is steam not kicking you out of old sessions when you log on a Beta feature or did I just miss it? It's necessary for streaming after all so I wasn't sure if it came with the streaming beta
16:08
So the idea is to have a game running on a local desktop machine, but being played with a laptop connected over the local network?
@Unionhawk Replace "laptop" with "media center pc" (or whatever those are called these days) and you'll have what they intended.
@BenBrocka That was added to the main Steam client a while back I think.
But the idea is the same. Using a more powerful machine to play a game on a different machine for reasons.
@Powerlord Ah. It's lovely. I no longer have to worry turning on my laptop will kick me out of steam
@Unionhawk Yes, input on the laptop/htpc/whatever, game rendered on the beefy desktop, image streamed to the secondary PC
it works extremely well in some cases, some weird issues in others. HL2 of all things had weird encoding? bugs that made it unplayable. BL2 was fantastic and extremely playable, though it was capped at 30FPS for no apparent reason
and this was over wireless, on the other side of the house, I only tried ethernet briefly and for proteus
Interesting
I was amazed at 2ms input lag (for keyboard/touchpoint). I should test it more, but it definitely has the potential to be extremely close to playing it on the real PC
though this was 720p (the best my laptop can do), I'll have to test 1080p later, shouldn't be too different though. 720p at 30FPS in BL2 was only 20% network utilization, and that's wireless. But it has a weird/stupid cap of 15Mbps as @agent86 mentioned, hopefully they remove that
16:18
Lasted for 15 minutes shovelling snow. Damn, it's cold outside.
You really need to get a snow blower.
Build a shed or something. Building sheds are very Canadian.
@Wipqozn Then I run into the problem of blowing snow into my neighbor's yard.
But after this year, I'm seriously considering getting one.
Just buy your neighbours house.
The amount of snow is insane.
Since Valve hasn't done it yet, I filed a bug to try to get them to make separate Authoring Tools packages for their older Source games.
Especially since all the sample files needed to make things for these older games are still shipped with the (now deprecated) Source SDK Launcher.
Blizzard's numbers on their site are a bit funky.
For instance, they claim to have sold more copies of WarCraft 3's expansion than copies of WarCraft 3.
Which makes me wonder how they're counting sales of BattleChests.
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Q: Can we ask questions about why a certain game became successful/popular

EsqCan we ask why a certain game became popular or successful? The question seems to be subjective but I believe people with good observation skills and knowledge can answer these types of questions objectively. It is not clear on here: http://gaming.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic Either way I th...

@Frank You've got a whole lot of year left before you get a snow blower, then, I guess.
@GraceNote But only a month or two (hopefully) of winter left!
@Frank Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah.
16:29
You should move to Canada. @Wipqozn told me it never snows there!
@fredley Hmm. I was under the wrong impression that The Sims 3 was more popular than its predecessors. Strange, that.
It might still have made more money, given the 174 expansion packs ...
@badp Iwata is not the best public speaker, you just have to ignore that
@GnomeSlice already saw that
@MartinSojka Same idea as Minecraft really, but charging for each incremental upgrade
Fuck EA
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The Sims expansion packs have gone crazy. Heck, they were pretty crazy in Sims 1, there were at least 6, which at the time was more expansions than I had ever heard of
@fredley obligatory star, et cetera
16:37
2 hours ago, by fredley
@FEichinger Stating obvious opinions that everybody agrees with == easy stars
Sims 3 has (according to Wikipedia) 11 expansion packs + 9 "stuff packs" + a ton of stuff (as in, over 3000 items if I remember correctly) in their online store. Fuck EA, fuck DLCs and fuck microtransactions, really.
@BenBrocka Each one didn't really add that much either. 'Yay, slightly more options in the dating tree.'
'Yay dogs'
@MartinSojka Sims 4 will be a microtransaction-based MMO
FAE
FAE
Man, I need to get a WiiU.
I'd bet any amount of money on it
It will be horrible in so many ways
And yet people will buy into it big time
@fredley Haven't they already had a microtransaction-based Sims MMO? Named The Sims Online as I recall...
16:40
@Powerlord Is it microtransaction based?
The Sims Online (also known as EA-Land) was the first massively multiplayer online variation on Maxis's highly popular computer game The Sims, the second being the Online Weekend mode for The Sims Bustin Out, and third being The Sims Social. It was published by Electronic Arts and released on December 17, 2002 for Microsoft Windows. In March 2007, EA announced that the product would be re-branded as EA-Land and major enhancements would be made. About a year later, EA announced that the game would shut down all activity on August 1, 2008. The next online games in the series are MySims (PC v...
@fredley It's true.
For example!
@Wipqozn is really handsome.
That'll get a lot of stars! Just you wait!
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@fredley To be honest, I don't remember. However, given that it's The Sims, it's very likely.
@Wipqozn ...
> On the left is the image from the desktop, and the right is the streamed image from the laptop.
16:42
@Powerlord I don't think there is a true MMO with true micro-transaction based gameplay, as we understand it in the post-Mobile Dungeon Keeper era.
...and there's 2 images in the center, one above the other
@agent86
@Powerlord It will be genre-defining, in the most awful way possible
EA is worse than mobile hitler
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@GnomeSlice points to starred list
16:44
You should read the star list
DAMN
@3ventic HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA TOO SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW
@Blem Lies, no I can't
I was too busy trying to get LAN sharing to work
It's proving to be more difficult than I originally thought
@Blem Wave
there is a bit of lag
16:46
@Blem do a dance
they are working on getting a better quality camara up
I can control @Blem
@Blem Dude, your audio is fuct
yea, it is a labtop webcam atm
they are working on getting a real camara on it
16:49
@Frank unless you are burying their walkway or driveway, that seems acceptable
FAE
FAE
@BenBrocka "contemplative first person shooter" amuses me as a phrase
@Sterno Eh. Some people get really picky if you dump snow on their yards. Granted, I don't think my neighbors are those types of people, but you never now.
FAE
FAE
Really wondering how much you can barter the prices down.
@Frank snowblowing their sidewalk for them would probably be a low-cost investment that would more than offset any ill will
@FAE Which pixeljunk games do you have?
FAE
FAE
16:54
@GnomeSlice All except Shooter 2.
Some of them twice on different platforms.
I didn't even know there was a Shooter 2
FAE
FAE
Maybe I do have Shooter 2, I don't remember atm.
@Sterno I wonder more how much you have to grind to have to try that. It seems like a newish spin on old nasty F2P
Shooter 2 is great
Monsters and Shooter are 80% and 70% off on indiegamestand right now.
Fucking airlines!!!!
They cancelled my flight, and I had to scramble to reschedule for a new flight. The annoying part is that they cancelled my flight to allow for the backlog of other flights that were canceled from yesterday's weather.
16:56
Valentine's Weekend Sale - Save up to 80% on over 80 Indie Games! http://goo.gl/fb/2GZHP #indiegamestand
FAE
FAE
@BenBrocka Weapon Shop de Omasse reminds me of Recettear
20 hours ago, by Wipqozn
@GnomeSlice .......THIS IS WHY PEOPLE CALL YOU A SPAM BOT
@FAE Never played it, but yeah I know I've heard of that idea before, not sure if the "you don't get paid if the hero dies" thing is in recettear though
Level 5's stuff is usually pretty good
@DavidM Flying is like democracy. It sucks, but it's better than anything else we have.
FAE
FAE
@BenBrocka You get to go through dungeons yourself to collect stuff to stock your shop, but if you die, you can only return with one item in your inventory, rather than everything.
17:03
@JasonBerkan Eh . . . I need to buy me a Gulfstream!
@JasonBerkan And, democracy sucks so much, they invented republicanism!
@DavidM Which is like being president of your own personal island - everything is sunshine and roses!
@JasonBerkan Yup! I wonder if anyone wants to give me one for my birthday. Anyone got a rich uncle?
@DavidM Yes, but I've never been able to convince him to give me money
17:06
@Powerlord Maybe he'll like me better than he likes you . . .
I'm not asking for much. I'd take a small Gulfstream. I don't need one of the fancy ones.
@BenBrocka THis pokemon stream is a huge hit in the office. I suspect we won't be getting any work done this afternoon.
im back
@Wandang Hi back, I'm left arm
@Wipqozn It's surprisingly funny
17:08
@GnomeSlice I'm surprised you're linking to TF2 stuff.
@Powerlord ?
@Powerlord @GnomeSlice links to anything and everything.
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@GnomeSlice You need to remove your Canadian French keyboard layout.
@JasonBerkan This is good advice.
Should be ale to do that under keyboard languages or something.
Forget the exact meny.
Besides, my favorite TF2 Heavy quote is this one.
17:10
looks at the character map selection icon in the corner of his screen
>.>
Skeleton bob is the most insane sport
Why would you put yourself through that?
@JasonBerkan @Powerlord I couldn't find the scene in the movie the Jerk where the guy is begging for leather seats for his private jet. So, enjoy this instead.
Back outside I go, to do a bit more shovelling.
@fredley I was just sitting in a bobsled the other day thinking, "Hmmmmm ... this shit seems WAAAAAAY too safe."
@DavidM Hang your neck over the front and slide down a chute at 20+ miles an hour
today my amazon package arrived and i couldn't stop laughing
made a gallery about it
Hmm Loot Hero seems like something between Half-minute Hero and Slayin.
Skeleton is a fast winter sliding sport in which a person rides a small sled down a frozen track while lying face down, during which the rider experiences forces up to 5g and reaches speeds over 130 km/h (80 mph). The sport was named from the bony appearance of the sled. It was added to the Olympic program for the 2002 Winter Olympics; previously, it had been in the Olympic program only in St. Moritz, Switzerland, in 1928 and 1948. History The skeleton originated in St. Moritz, Switzerland, as a spinoff of the popular British sport called Cresta sledding. Although skeleton "sli...
@RedRiderX Some people like it, some people don't.
Hmm okay
17:23
@RedRiderX I haven't played either of those, but isn't half minute hero like a platformer?
@Wandang Needs freehand circles. Not sure what the actual box content was!
@DavidM Ok, 80mph
@GnomeSlice Eh I don't think so
As if 20mph wasn't fast enough to instantly break your neck!
@3ventic both images are divided down the middle, the left hand side of the image is the desktop, the right is the laptop. I didn't draw a visible line down the middle because I wanted to be able to see the transition, if there was one. There wasn't really one, in those tests.
17:24
@DavidM that little white box
Slayin is web game and a mobile app
the same length as the package but the package could be a lot smaller
and the brown paper was just there for SHITS and GIGGLES i guess
@BenBrocka - yeah, I tested the in-home streaming with super meat boy, and it played pretty well, tbqh. the input lag was not that much of an issue, even when the video was struggling.
17:25
the pipe was in a double bottom
@Wandang Ah . . . I was looking for something tiny. The length of that makes it seem not-tiny.
well it is 1 axis
that is the same length
all other are like 50 times bigger for the package
Yeah, that seems safe . . .
@DavidM Yup. It must have the highest death/serious injury rate of any olympic sport
@fredley Confirmed or conjecture? Because if it's true, I'm an instant fan!
17:29
@DavidM No idea, I can't imagine anything more dangerous though
@DavidM And I'm pretty sure the death count > 0
@fredley I dunno, alpine events are pretty intense.
@fredley Olympic Telling your GF She's Fat might be more dangerous ...
I have purchased (and repurchased) more Sid Meier games in the past three days than I should have. Yay for sales!
@fredley Oh internet, is there anything you don't know?
17:33
Yay! Britain is best at women's sliding!
@DavidM How to get a date?
@Yuki Match.com
@fredley maybe they all have the cold shoulder?
@Yuki Getting a date is never the hard part. Getting a date with someone who has the proper number of chromosomes, that's a bit more challenging!
@Yuki date();
17:34
@DavidM ....
i will never manhug @DavidM
@agent86 ah, okay. I didn't notice any difference so I thought the image was missing
@Yuki Chinesechubbychasers.com
@Wandang And, I thank you for that!
@BenBrocka This is the single greatest thing I've ever seen.
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Q: Fifa 14 formation issues

DreddI have been playing fifa 14 for a week now i have been having many difficulties adapting to the game play so far, that being said i played fifa 12 for 2 years and played a lot of online games and was very proficient there. Yesterday i played many games yesterday and with many formations, The AI...

@OrigamiRobot Aaaaand they lost to Misty again.
@OrigamiRobot We've got it running on a tv in the def office at work. It's great.
@Yuki Did you see them change the text speed to slow?
@Yuki How long have they been in cerulean city?
@Wipqozn I would assume at least 18 hours.
17:38
@3ventic I think later in the 1080p testing I showed one that was starting to exhibit compression artifacts. I also uploaded everything to that dropbox folder, so, y'know, compare yer eyes out
@Yuki Did you check 18 hours ago and see them there?
Just curious if you know for sure or are just guessing.
@Wipqozn I'm just guessing based on current time played (1d 18 hr).
@Yuki Okay.
"It's like recycling, except this isn't a complete waste of time and effort!" - The Cleveland Show.
Which starter did they get again?
17:40
Charmander
Hahahahahaha, Charmander.
I wonder if they'll ever manage to beat misty...
Named ABBBBBBBBK (
So who else is watching the hockey game while at work?
or sommat
17:41
Wee! Shovelling complete!
hahhahahah
Snow is melting away already
@Wipqozn I can't wait until the Vermilion Gym.
that job interview questions -> comments from imgur
17:42
People have a hard enough time with the garbage can puzzle just by themselves.
i really would love to say shit in an job interview
@MBraedley No hockey, only pokemon.
I'm currently backing up 20 GB of pictures to try out SteamOS
if i get a job at another job interview (or pretty secure) i should take another just for giggles
@3ventic dont
take debian with steam instead
Five bucks says they won't even make it to Lt. Surge by the end of the month.
17:44
nah, they will. I suspect what will happen is that during the downtimes people will get shit done.
@Wandang I prefer Windows 8.1 with Steam
I'm installing SteamOS to test it out
@SaintWacko Nice
They're in the grass
I think the chat broke.
@RedRiderX also, you can advance your relationship with other players now
17:47
I have a totally irrational love if this question title:
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Q: Woobat into Swoobat!

Triforce_RapidashI want to evolve my Woobat into a Swoobat on my X version, I've looked it up and I found out that it needs to have 'max happiness' and then level up. Anybody have any tips on how I could make Woobat happy? It's already holding a Soothe Bell and I fed it lots of PokePuffs and some premium berry ju...

Huh.
I think it's the exclamation point.
I don't see any revision history on this:
Yet I don't recall it actually saying that when i downvoted.
Grace period editing
@Frank Is that a 10k only link?
17:48
@frank edited within grace period?
@MBraedley Yes
@LessPop_MoreFizz Could be, but posted, deleted, and edited within the grace period?
Seems a bit out there.
@SaintWacko Yeah as of today
No idea how though
It was deleted after 8 seconds from posting
Oh, I haven't posted on Arqade meta in a while. Time to do so.
17:49
@RedRiderX there's an option in your lodgings
@GraceNote NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
That leaves 4 minutes and 52 seconds to edit without leaving a trace!
Sometimes I feel like I basically write the same argument all the time, I just take a completely different direction in the hopes that, maybe, maybe this time it'll stick.
@RedRiderX Attend to matters of the heart.
I hope Tammy gets back from lunch soon so I can stop covering phones for her and get my own lunch.
17:50
@GraceNote You said the same thing I did, just much wordier.
@3ventic Where do you see that?
@Frank Timestamps in the revision history
@Frank That seems to be a repeating pattern to describe what I write. "Someone else could've done it with less words."
@GraceNote didn't you do that last week in response to kalina?
@Wipqozn That's a while ago.
17:51
...the election was a week ago, righT?
Try to keep up.
@3ventic All I see there is "2 hours ago" for both posting and deletion.
@Frank Hover over the 2 hours ago for accurate times
@GraceNote I'm a turtle, give me a break. jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez.
@3ventic Oh, neat.
I didn't know it did that.
17:52
15:37:01 posted, 15:37:09 deleted
@Wipqozn Giving you a break is why you'd win the race against the hare.
All times have that, if I'm not mistaken
@Frank Reading the comment you posted while I was writing, I ponder if maybe the desire might be to ask about Flappy Bird, hah.
@GraceNote I suspect that was the intent, actually. So it sort of demonstrates why those types of questions don't work so well here at all.
@Frank Indeed.
17:54
That pokemon twitch stream is so special
Did they make it past Misty yet?
I heard horror stories involving leer and whirlwind before I went to get lunch.
@SaintWacko Ah okay
They are training outside again.
@GraceNote Nope, they just failed again about 10 minutes ago.
Now that I have shovelled, all I have to do is wait for my package to arrive.
17:55
Hah
@Frank So you can start shoveling again?
I seriously can't wait 'til they get to the trash can puzzle.
@Arperum Only if it snows again.
Oh gosh how did I miss that option showing up
I have to wonder sometimes, though, if any other site on the network gets nearly as much issue with incidental knowledge questions.
17:56
There will be lols everywhere.
I should note that I am already taken
and hanging again.
@GraceNote I wonder that as well.
@SaintWacko Oh my
@GraceNote They managed to change the text speed to slow and the battle style to set
17:59
If I ask how to convert real PS2 memory card saves and/or PS3 PS2 to something PCSX2 can read is that on topic here or not?
@OrigamiRobot Oh man
I'm debating whether to play Lightning Returns some more, or wait for my hardcover collector's edition strategy guide to arrive.
@OrigamiRobot Last weekend before Banished!
I'm so excited.
@Yuki how far are they now?
@Frank Strategy guides are lame. Arqade is where it's at.

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