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3:00 PM
Does beta count?
like I commited to French Usage, when it goes to beta, it counts as the birth of the site?
Or is it public beta? or final release?
 
It counts from the very first day of private beta
 
(Just curious)
 
Private beta's start is the start.
 
@tzenes Yes you have
2010-07-07 19:37:16Z
 
nice
 
3:03 PM
For reference Community signed up at 2010-07-07 15:15:00Z
 
Community got a headstart, then, because the gates didn't open until 19:00
 
Did Jon Skeet registered before Community?
 
The first non employee was @Ivo, who signed up as user #10 at 2010-07-07 19:03:03Z
 
Ivo Wetzel?
 
No, Ivo Flipse.
 
3:05 PM
ah ok
So @badp your a SE employee?
 
Nope
(I'm user 23.)
 
badp is #23
So that's after Ivo
 
Humm I feel like a little newbie :D #7709
 
102 weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
What is a tag that you think has the highest conversion rate?
 
Where can you see what# you are?
 
3:08 PM
You mean the best #question/rep?
 
or lowest?
I mean people ask/answer it as their first/second question/answer and then don't go on to become productive members of the site
 
I really don't think it's a matter of tags, but if it is you probably made the starcraft 2 tag such a tag.
 
@Loktar On your profile page. You are 6908, if you're curious.
 
Ah was just going to ask that ty
 
@badp SC2 has a fairly normal conversion rate
minecraft has kind of a low one
 
3:11 PM
How about Witcher 2?
 
So basically you are looking for tag that makes people regular members?
 
OUCH
@GraceNote 66% did not convert
 
What's considered a "normal" conversion rate?
 
sitewide average is 39% do not
 
@tzenes I'm hoping that's more of a 4/6 or 2/3 than something more heinous of a count.
 
3:13 PM
ah gotcha
 
I've included my methodology and results here: meta.gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/1455/…
 
Fallen is #160 on Gaming
 
of the 65 people who asked/answered the-witcher-2 as their first/second question/answer, only 22 went on to cast 2 or more upvotes
by comparison dwarf-fortress had the best conversion rate with only 19 of 85 not going on to cast upvotes
 
Clearly we need to ban tag.
 
Burninate!
 
3:16 PM
or it's a bad GTKY question
 
Heretic!
:D
 
since it was part of the community promotion that is probably valuable data
 
Well how does it apply to people that have no first question?
 
though, you'd also want to include "views" as value
@Mvy first question or answer. People who don't post aren't included under any one tag
 
@Powerlord Clearly we need to ban tag.
 
3:17 PM
@badp +1
 
user30
@badp Clearly you need banning
 
ah 1st question is valid too
 
@badp There are questions with the bacon tag on Gaming?
 
@Powerlord Not for lack of trying :P
 
user30
GTA has 9 hours left to download now, sigh
 
user30
3:18 PM
might go for some tickets
 
Hum so my first answer was on
 
user30
Mine was on
 
Suicide. The best way to return to full hearts in minecraft.
 
user30
Indeed, or play on peaceful ;)
 
@ThomasMcDonald The vast majority of the damage I take is falling anyways :P
 
3:20 PM
You guys see the updates for 1.8
Critical Damage/Sprinting/NPC Towns
cant wait.
 
user30
Yeah
 
user30
@bad I'm trying to patch up what appear to be random TNT holes in the old map
 
@ThomasMcDonald Ouch. If you find a really long ethernet cable, I'll let you run a connection from my FiOS. Traversing the Atlantic might be a bit of a pain, but surely not as bad as waiting that long for a game to download.
 
Mine was likely on either or
 
user30
@TimStone and that's at 350kb/s, which is relatively good for my connection.
 
user30
3:23 PM
It's peaked at 800kb/s before but that was in the middle of the night
 
@TimStone Just having FIOS won't help, as it's also limited on Valve's side.
 
Valve's got pretty great upstream, I regularly download 3-5 megs per second from them
 
@Powerlord your first question was castlevania your first answer was l4d
 
My Steam downloads all chug along at 2.2 mb/s, which seems reasonable enough.
 
sometimes up to 10
 
3:25 PM
@FallenAngelEyes It must depend on your region.
@FallenAngelEyes Their North American servers suck. :D
 
I usually get 10 MB/s from Steam, but definitely not this week.
 
Oh BTW @badp you saw the server migration for EU in LoL?
 
I haven't really downloaded anything huge this week so I haven't been able to test my downstream during the steam sale
 
3:26 PM
@Mvy I don't really play LoL.
 
I'm stuck at 2-3 MB/s this week, tops.
 
I mean, I have an account and I've tried it but I don't like the game. Actually I should uninstall it.
 
AH ok!
right
 
@Arda I wish we could eliminate the tv from our alles-in-1 pakket seeing as we barely use it, but they don't have any other deals with comparable speeds :(
 
cause recently they had huge difficulties in term of number of users connecting and DDoS :D
 
3:27 PM
@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, me too. The internet plans are much slower.
 
Well... TV isn't that interesting after all
 
M'vy: 'tisn't, but the package deal that Arda and I use from our providers doesn't offer the same internet speed outside of the tv/phone/internet full package
 
Ok!
If you want full speed internet you need to get TV too :S
 
Yeah, pretty much :/
 
Melissa's finally here, yay!
 
3:41 PM
well that was scary
I fell in lava, almost died
Nice way to learn armor doesn't seem to have an effect on lava damage
 
haha lava will mess you up.
Everytime I hear one of my sons scream in terror or cry.. I know lava killed them
 
@Loktar ahah yeah, it seems so
I did survive the lava, but then some zombies came at me from behind
 
lol that sucks
what sucks more is losing your stuff though
 
@Loktar yeah I cried and everything
 
haha
 
3:46 PM
My lunch break is over now though, so I need to stop :/
IT's a fairly addicting game.
 
Well lava is bad since it burns all your belongings
 
@Mvy ouch, never noticed that
but I was too busy crying and running around
like alittle girl
 
LOL
 
who just lost her ice cream cone
 
By the way I try to always have a water bucket at hand
 
3:47 PM
@Mvy Yeah I'm going to do that as well
 
can save in many situation :D
 
I only started playing, so I've only just now started getting Iron
 
I think rain will stop lava burn too
but usually you don't have rain & lava at the same place :D
 
@Mvy not likely :P
I do love the raining in this game, just seems quite realistic
not sure why
 
hm
 
3:49 PM
I think the sounds are one of the major reasons
 
because it happens just like the same second on 1000block²?
 
which reminds me
 
:D
 
Does minecraft have a portable light source?
as in, when you carry it, it gives off light
 
hm no
could be a nice addition
 
3:51 PM
dang :/ I didn't think so, but was hoping I was wrong
well not hoping
It would be nice, something to be said for there not being one
Also, the latest OCR album is pretty awesome.
 
Yeah you just have to carry a good supply of torches
drop them as you go
I really hope they take some ideas from terraria
like a lighted mining helmet
 
yeah, that would be a nice idea
I played terraria for a bit
 
T-1 hour.
 
@ArdaXi Till new sales, or the sale ends?
that is to say, when is the steam sale ending?
 
@Wipqozn New sales.
10th of July.
So Sunday.
 
4:04 PM
Actually that reminds me, I need to get killing floor set up so I can host games
 
T-1 hours for more achievements..
I had a nightmare about the tickets actually
wasnt able to get the l4d2 on on Sunday.
Quite sad I know....
 
4:20 PM
What, GMan telling you "You think you're going to get all the tickets? Well... we will see, about that."
 
haha that would of been great.
 
must... resist...
 
This scientist is an incredible badass.
 
lol nice
most of my memories of HL1 scientists are point blank range shotgun blasts :?
 
user30
4:35 PM
Get all the tickets!
 
user30
c'mon GTA, ETA 12 hours now
 
4:51 PM
Sanctum $3.75 today on steam
great deal
New Deal: Company of Heroes: Gold - $7.49 @Steam -
http://lenk.me/dacb0c
New Deal: Dead Rising 2 - $19.99 @Steam -
http://lenk.me/c8e174
New Deal: Risen - $7.49 @Steam - http://lenk.me/43096a
New Deal: Company of Heroes Complete Pack - $12.49 @Steam -
http://lenk.me/c5fcc0
New Deal: Counter-Strike Complete - $7.49 @Steam -
http://lenk.me/f8b6bf
New Deal: Counter-Strike - $2.49 @Steam -
http://lenk.me/e96175
New Deal: Sanctum - $3.75 @Steam - http://lenk.me/1b0d9b
New Deal: Counter-Strike: Source - $4.99 @Steam -
deals for today so far
 
@Loktar Err... how did you...?
 
Lame.
 
@ArdaXi wondering the same thing. Still showing 5 minutes for me.
 
friend runs gamesavr.com gets infos from steam
posts them in a irc chan
they post their deals about 15 mins early
 
Ah.
 
4:55 PM
looks like theres a cs source ticket today too :?
Happy Camper
Get two kills standing in the same spot with a zoomed sniper rifle
I dont have cs:source even installed... another large download tonight
 
Ah good, CS needs more encouragement to camp
 
@Loktar NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
So, who wants to farm that CS:S achievement tonight?
 
me.. if its even done dlding tonigt
more deals just flooded in btw
tomb raider ones
audio surf/rift
 
I may still have it installed from when I was baconing it.
 
> Will I still be able to communicate with my friends through the PvP.net client if they are on the other platform?
> No. Players on the opposite platform will not be able to receive messages from you through their PvP.net client. You can check which platform your friends have been assigned to by visiting this map if you know their country of origin. Otherwise, we recommend getting in touch with your friends to talk to them about which platform they’ve been assigned.
 
4:57 PM
er... checking for good sounds I could put in my Mapchooser Extended Sounds plugin.
 
> Will I be able to play against players from the other platform when I join the queue for a match?
> No. EU West and EU Nordic & East will each have their own matchmaking services and competitive standings. The queues are not linked, and you will never be matched with players on the opposite platform.
 
@badp That sucks.
 
@badp What's PvP.net?
 
@badp Otherwise that would kinda make the whole split a non-split
 
@Powerlord LoL platform.
 
4:58 PM
League of Legends.
 
user30
@Powerlord I'll do it
 
@CruelCow Yeah, it's bullshit they have to split in the first place
If I want to friend somebody in the US with Quake Live I can.
If I want to play with him I can.
I know it'll probably suck for one or both us but wtfever!
 
hm 15 seconds
 
So, if I set up a StackExchange locked CS:S server, we can all take turns farming it? :P
 
True. Was it really dreamhack that pulled all those people in?
 
4:59 PM
Then again. I don't play LoL so.
 
user30
@Powerlord yes
 
user30
Ooh C&C 4
 
achievements are listed
I already have 3 at least.
 
Aaaand the steam store gets crushed under traffic
 
Unreachable, of course.
 
5:01 PM
Well, except @ArdaXi who will just cheat to unlock it.
 
:D
 
Sanctum
Beach Party - Start the party on Glade

AudioSurf
Sunburn - Turn 21 blocks red with a single paint

Counter-Strike: Source
Happy Camper - Get 2 kills standing in the same spot with a zoomed sniper rifle

Tidalis
Summer Swimming Hole - Create A Combo At Least 6 Deep

Metal Drift
Road Trip Rampage - Achieve 5 kills on each map

The Wonderful End of the World
Wonderful Big Bladder - Reset the game, and complete the entire thing in one sitting

Poker Night at the Inventory
Summer of 69 - Win a hand with a 6 card and a 9 card of any suit
 
Has anyone here played Risen or Cities XL?
 
user30
I have no achievements yet
 
Because it's definitely untraceable, particularly if Steam registers you as getting achievements in games you're no currently playing, or ones that are bugged.
 
5:01 PM
I've played Cities XL.
Didn't like it.
 
user30
@Wipqozn I'm thinking of getting Cities XL
 
I don't like that WEotW achievement.
 
@ThomasMcDonald yeah I've been thinking about it for awhile
 
@Powerlord It doesn't register you getting achievements in games you're not playing.
 
@ArdaXi What didn't you like about it?
 
5:02 PM
@Powerlord Yeah, it actually sounds like work
 
@Powerlord It registers you getting achievements in games it registers you playing.
 
user30
and C&C4 & Red Alert
 
@Powerlord lol yeah the WeotW one is going to be tough :?
I played it a bit last night to get a feel for it
 
@Loktar Not really, just don't close the game. It never says you have to get all A+ scores.
 
@Powerlord It does.
 
5:03 PM
Who's that on the left on the promo art?
 
yeah but you have to get all A's to open the last level :?
 
You need A scores on all levels to get.. right.
 
Oh, well, the few levels I've played in the game didnt' seem that hard to get As in, except the crate level.
And the crate level won't be present.
 
Poker night at the inventory sucks
its pure random to get that achievement
I spent some time last night on that one to get it
 
@Loktar Yes, and that does kinda suck.
 
5:05 PM
ugh alot of these kind of suck.. 5 kills on each map of metal drift?
wonder how many maps it has
 
Oh bollocks, I have 4 achievements from today to get, plus L4D2's from yesterday.
 
@Loktar Only a chance of one in 169.
 
yeah the trick is once theres a 6 and 9 go all in
 
Well, time to download a trailer.
 
sometimes scares the AI.
 
5:06 PM
The achievements that are going to suck are the ones on the 10th, as you can't just put them off to another day.
 
yeah at least itll be the weekend @Powerlord
right now i have to wait 4 hours until I get home from work
5 diff maps it looks like on metal drift
 
Wait, they don't have any achievements for the 11th, right?
 
@Powerlord No.
 
wtf are there 9 today..
 
Oh wait, this sale is Valve-through the 11th, so through 10am Pacific time (5pm UTC) on the 11th.
 
5:08 PM
So yeah, if you've downloaded a media already watching it is sufficient
Luckily I already had downloaded meet the medic.
 
trademarks the word Valve-through
 
> Will I still be able to interact with my friends on the League of Legends forums?
> The League of Legends forums will be split so that the EU West and EU Nordic & East platforms each have their own forums. In order to post on the forums of a specific platform, you will need an account there.
rofl
This is just pathetic
 
@badp Why are they doing this exactly?
 
user30
I hate TWEotW
 
@Wipqozn Apparently Europe has too many users.
 
5:12 PM
Interesting pack. AaaaaAAaaaAAA!!! The Wonderful End of the World
 
They're not going to include 1..2..3.. Kick It too?
 
I think the pack only includes games.
 
0
Q: Can the Quake games on Steam be modded just as easily as the retail versions?

cowgodIs it possible to use different source engines and mods on the Steam versions of Quake, Quake 2, and Quake 3 Arena? Are they any more difficult to implement than on the retail, boxed version of the game?

 
@Lazers Yes and No respectively, iirc.
 
@badp I never got why developers split their forums in any game. Yes, we don't share the same server, but the game itself is the same one. Especially in MMOs where even if you're in the same region chances are you'll not share the same server.
 
5:16 PM
eyes Blizzard
Yes, why are there separate forums for each region for WoW? :P
 
(obligatory for the law of gravitation)
 
29 tickets.
 
Hmm, Rift for $10.
 
@Brant I played that for a little over a month. Enjoyable, but I think they are having population problems.
 
Yeah, they should totally split their server or something.
:-}
 
5:20 PM
@badp oh you :p
Actually they offered free character transfers recently. Transfer each character once a week.
Hopefully that will solve some problems, one of the reasons I stopped was it was my server had serious population problems.
 
looks like people are getting Weotw ticket by just beating the last level
 
How cheating of them.
 
I wonder if my CS:S server config still works right.
 
Well, only one ticket and then I'm officially out of things to redeem.
 
Oh yay, I apparently deleted the CS:S directory at some point.
 
5:33 PM
in the same boat as me then :?
 
Or maybe not.
 
ill have to get it this weekend im sure
 
No installation record found at ./orangebox
and yet, it already finished updating
 
checks his list
 
oh nice, I have orange box
like the actual DVD
so I could install the base files at the very least
might make my dl a bit shorter
 
5:34 PM
Anyone want Audiosurf or Counter-Strike: Source?
 
audiosurf is a fun game
 
Yeah, well, CS:S isn't part of the Orange Box, it just uses the Source 2009 engine since the OSX version came out in 2010.
 
ah damn :?
 
Anyone?
 
Interesting, preliminary vote support was added to CS:S
@Loktar: Do you already own CS:S?
 
5:35 PM
yeah
just dont have it downloaded
 
Arda's not the only one with extra copies of those two games. :O
 
Indeed he isn't.
I know I'm not the only one with a gilded potato.
 
I often feel like I'm the only one on the bridge who doesn't have a bunch of extra copies of games sitting around >.>
 
Heck, I even have an extra TF2 copy still. I should give it to a shill... er... another account so I can farm items with it... er... yeah.
 
user30
I wonder if this is downloading so slowly because the content server is struggling
 
5:37 PM
heh I have 2 extra copies of l4d2
 
user30
I sold all my potato spares
 
waiting for my kids to get a bit older
 
@ThomasMcDonald I should do that, but it sounds like effort.
 
user30
I wonder if I'll be better off downloading from Manchester
 
206.217.135.93:27015 now running CS:S with password "stack"
2
 
user30
5:40 PM
no is the answer.
 
I wasn't sure if the addon crap was working, so I just disabled all the addons.
 
Gah, I need a new mouse. It double-clicks all the time, incredibly annoying.
 
I think .93 wasn't being used... grep didn't see any servers (TF2, KF) bound to that IP.
 
user30
Why is my internet utter shite?
 
Then again, I think TF2 are .91 and .92, while KF is .90
 
user30
5:42 PM
I used to be able to happily download at 700kb/s, contented
 
Why are you two completely talking past each other?
 
nice, coming for CS:S ticket :)
 
The sky is blue.
 
bacon is tasty
 
Except when it rains, like now, then it's grey.
 
user30
5:44 PM
Steam content servers are currently pushing 393Mbit
 
Anyway, I can't farm the ticket yet, since I'm at that pesky "work" thing.
 
user30
and practically none of it is coming to me
 
Left is the new right
 
@badp So, what's the new Left?
 
@Powerlord Right behind you.
 
5:45 PM
I still need to get the ticket in Right behind you for Dead 2.
 
it's doable in single player
only died twice iirc
 
I was downloading that game, then power fluctuated
 
In addition to the 5 or 6 new tickets for today for games I have.
 
just remember to run into the zombies
 
Well, the download took 8 or so hours. It literally finished downloading as I was getting ready for bed.
 
user30
5:49 PM
I'm not gonna lie, I have no idea how to play CS:S
 
@ThomasMcDonald Start round, buy weapons, kill everyone on the other team.
Oh, and sometimes you'll have an objective that wins the round when you complete it (Terrorists planting a bomb and having it go off, Counter-terrorists rescuing hostages)
 
I should probably get around to trying CS:S at some point
 
Having said that, IMO CS:S has severe balance issues.
 
user30
Anyone fancy helping us out?
 
@Powerlord People actually do those?
 
user30
5:52 PM
We need two players on one team
 
I find it interesting that every weapon can headshot in Killing Floor, because you're fighting waves of monsters. I find it annoying that every weapon can headshot in CS:S, because you're fighting real people.
 
Man, it's been ages since I've played CS:S.
 
and it becomes a matter of whomever can headshot better/faster wins.
 
I do think I have a guest pass for CS:S
 
@badp Hell, @ArdaXi and I have extra copies.
 
user30
5:53 PM
@ArdaXi Jump in? :D
 
@ThomasMcDonald I can't play a game with this mouse.
 
nope, the free pass is for Day of Defeat
 
user30
yeah you can
 
it's probably expired by now anyway
 
@badp I've got an extra copy of Day of Defeat.
@ThomasMcDonald No, I can't. It double-clicks every time I single-click.
 
user30
5:54 PM
@ArdaXi and?
 
I'd join, but I'm stuck here for another... lets see... 3.5 hours, plus transit time.
 
@ThomasMcDonald Playing an FPS where it fires two-shots every time you one-shot doesn't work.
 
user30
@ArdaXi We're not exactly playing a full game here
 
user30
we're just getting the achievement
 
@ThomasMcDonald Point is, I can hardly use my PC as it is.
And I already have the achievement.
54 mins ago, by Powerlord
Well, except @ArdaXi who will just cheat to unlock it.
 
5:56 PM
@ThomasMcDonald He cheats, remember?
 
user30
Yeah, I forgot Arda was leet with the Steamworks API.
 
:D
See @Powerlord, you can make cheating sound positive.
I wonder if I should write an app that just gives you every ticket you're entitled to Sunday.
 
@ArdaXi In fact, we could even rename "cheating" to "strategically outwitting the system"
 
Pshaw, what I'm doing isn't strategic.
Step 1. Tell Steam that Unlocker.exe = Game with Achievement. Step 2. Tell Steam achievement unlocked! Step 3. ??? Step 4. Profit!
A script would involve a lot of forking actually.
 

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