The Bridge

GnomeSlice

15:00

Unionhawk

Also, how are we supposed to know you're asleep, in general?

Lazers

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Q: Defeating copperhead ing Arkham Origins

I defeated Copperhead in the steelmill, got the antidote, and went outside and told Alfred to send me samples of the gas... My objective is still to defeat copperhead. Where can I find her to finish my objective?

batman-arkham-origins

GnomeSlice

wtf

OrigamiRobot

If @kalina is not here, she is asleep. Those are her two states.

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Unionhawk

This is true.

kalina

15:05

@OrigamiRobot no, I don't want to

my preferred method of doing that level was always leave the incompetent clumbsy people outside on the roof anyway

don't even need to kill the lobby guard that way and as such the problem never occurrsr

OrigamiRobot

I agree

kalina

which is precisely what my tactic says

and as such doesn't need the bullshit about the additional guards

anyway, I'm bored, and I'm going back to sleep

Unionhawk

sounds logical

GnomeSlice

Great Permutator is 60% off ($3)

Zerofennec

@KevinvanderVelden arrived at the right time?

Sepia Lazers

15:14

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Q: Cannot ask if something meets a certain criteria?

Recently a question was closed because it asked which products met a certain criteria -- which is apparently strictly off-topic for Arqade. I don't give two hoots that the question was closed (it was already answered successfully for one thing), but I'd like to know more about the idea that any q...

discussion off-topic-content

fbueckert

@SepiaLazers How did I see that coming?

Also, morning, Bridge

user15026

@fbueckert You are psychic? :P

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Could be. I called you liking Pocket Harvest, after all!

user15026

@fbueckert I love it

kalina

@fbueckert pretty much took care of it for you

fbueckert

15:19

@kalina His examples are all horrible and would be closed.

Lazers

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Q: Problems With Downloading Minecraft 1.6.4

I'm trying to find a minecraft 1.6.4 on the internet but I can't find it.Please tell me where to find a minecraft 1.6.4?

minecraft pc

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn Huh, I didn't realize Pocket Mine was also a facebook game!

Oh cool, Roofdog makes all of their games facebook games as well...

Extreme Road Trip 2!

user15026

@GnomeSlice Me neither. :P but it is super fun

GnomeSlice

@AshleyNunn I have it on iOS, it's pretty good. I mostly just played it to unlock the exclusive cars in Extreme Road Trip 2 though. Although the music was excellent.

Zerofennec

Oh, games with furries

GnomeSlice

15:22

@AshleyNunn Oh, you can't actually play it on Facebook?

Zerofennec

I'm not a furry.

user15026

@GnomeSlice I have no idea

user15026

I haven't checked, been playing on Android

GnomeSlice

Well you sent me a request.

Must be that.

user15026

@GnomeSlice I did, from the Android app :P

GnomeSlice

15:23

extremeroadtrip2.com

<3 this game

Sterno

Why are you so awful, LinkedIn?

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert AT LEAST HE'S NOT RANTING AND RAVING. HE'S ASKING FOR MORE INFO ABOUT THE CLOSE REASON. HE DID THE RIGHT THING

ALSO AUTOCAD SAYS HI

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Which is good. Being lucid is much better.

Powerlord

@Zerofennec Your name and gravatar imply otherwise.

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening

5pike

15:26

@Powerlord Also his "about me" section...

Powerlord

@5pike I'm at work and the Arqade site is usually blocked.

Unionhawk

@5pike >_>

Lazers

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Q: Halloween items

After the Treehouse of Horror event is done, I assume we get to keep our special items. What happens to our GOO collecting, and buildings/missions that produce GOO? I'm assuming a similar thing as the Whacking Day event, but I wasn't playing the game back then

simpsons-tapped-out

Zerofennec

@Powerlord looks can be deceiving, I'm a pokemon in training :D

Powerlord

@Zerofennec Googling "zerofennec" gives me a page on Midwest Furries as the second result

kalina

15:29

@fbueckert yes

Sterno

I don't believe that controller question would be off-topic, unless there was a secondary factor like "it's an unreleased controller and you're speculating about it"

Powerlord

Granted, I don't know how common a nick zerofennec actually is. I know Googling Powerlord pulls up results about the band.

Kevin van der Velden

@Zerofennec your profile and then gnome's comments

OrigamiRobot

@Sterno Agree. If it's asking about a specific controller, it's not a list question.

Why are we talking about furries?

Unionhawk

Iunno.

I blame @GnomeSlice

Powerlord

15:32

35 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

What the hell is this

35 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

Multiplayer shooter for furries?

Kevin van der Velden

@Unionhawk always blame gnomeslice

Unionhawk

@KevinvanderVelden Except when blaming @Wipqozn.

Kevin van der Velden

Unless there's someone more convenient to blame I suppose

Unionhawk

That jerk...

Sterno

Any good answer to this guy's meta question is going to say exactly why we consider "criteria" questions to be bad.

There's got to be a meta somewhere doing that already

kalina

15:33

@Sterno one word answer for something that would basically be a shopping recommendation is why I'd say it was off topic

Ben Brocka

There's nothing more painful than Disgaea reviews by people who don't "get" Disgaea

Sterno

@kalina That is not a shopping recommendation, as far as the "shopping recommendations are a class of question that are problematic" go

Ben Brocka

It's like reading a bullet hell game and they're like "man these bullets are hard to dodge, where's the cover button?"

Sterno

I need to hotkey that or something.

Powerlord

@BenBrocka Really? In a review about a TRPG?

Jason Berkan

15:34

@Sterno Generally because they are list questions. List all games that meet <x> criteria.

kalina

@Sterno ok so out of the five questions there is one sample question that some of us would find acceptable

Powerlord

I wouldn't play Disgaea, but that's because I don't like TRPGs in general.

Sterno

Relevant @GraceNote quote:

> I want to take an aside to address a particular argument that I've been seeing, and that's "These are just game-rec in disguise, KILL THEM". This is a hurtful argument to see, as the only comparison to game-rec is in motive, and we did not remove game-rec from our scope because of motive. It paints us as jerks because the barring reason is isolated as "We don't want to help people", rather than all the actual issues with game-rec.

substitute game-rec for shopping-rec

But anyway, yeah, most of those are bad. What's important is explaining to the guy why they're bad.

Ben Brocka

@Powerlord They ground their way to being able to crush their enemies without strategy then complained about having to grind too much and there not being enough strategy

Maybe if they played it like a strategy game instead of grinding so they didn't have to play a strategy game they'd have enjoyed it more

5pike

@BenBrocka Which reviewer are you ranting about?

Ben Brocka

15:39

@5pike polygon: polygon.com/2013/11/1/5055754/…

5pike

And yes - people that have no idea about a certain genre, shouldn't review said genre.

Ben Brocka

I shouldn't read their reviews. The news is great, reviews not so much

Lazers

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Q: Binding a Minecraft command to a key

Is there a way to bind a Minecraft command to a hotkey? For example, I’d like a way to toggle between modes (survivla/creative) by pressing the Tab so that if I’m in a nasty pinch (like getting poisoned by a spider and being unable to fight back because the game suddenly lags really badly) and w...

minecraft

Jason Berkan

Polygon's features are awesome. Their reviews are so-so.

Ben Brocka

Hearing people grind through the main story in Disgaea is like someone using iddqd and complaining Doom is too slow and easy

Zerofennec

15:41

@Powerlord @KevinvanderVelden I know. It's very clear what I am, just having a little fun :3

Ben Brocka

It's relevant to point out that there's definitely wrong ways to play it, and it's not the most accessible game, but if you're going to review a game, review it for the people who might actually buy it, not the people who won't care no matter what

fredley

Is @kalina playing BG2 yet?

5pike

Ok, I am not particular fond of TRPG, but reading this line:

Disgaea D2 is a long wave of one battle after another, and it left me begging for fresh air

I knew that the reviewer never touched a TRPG before

Battle after battle are what TRPG's (and RPG's) are.

Wipqozn

Break time!

Zerofennec

I haven't played Minecraft in a while, but the updates may lure me back.

fredley

15:44

@Zerofennec I'm keen to get another vanilla Arqade server going

Kevin van der Velden

@Zerofennec play with mods! Vanilla is bad D:

Wipqozn

Things are going well. One of them is going over my work right now. They seem quite pleased with my work so far.

I'm basically awesome.

fredley

Don't know if there's a server we can use though

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn you're a turtle, of course you're awesome

Wipqozn

True.

fredley

15:45

@Wipqozn One of 'them'?

Zerofennec

@fredley I may startup my server again.

Wipqozn

@fredley Fellow dev.

Kevin van der Velden

How did I typo the first you're but not the second o.o

Zerofennec

@KevinvanderVelden only map mods, vanilla is my favorite flavor.

fredley

@Zerofennec Please do

Kevin van der Velden

15:46

@Zerofennec bleh, mods make minecraft so much awesomer :)

Zerofennec

@KevinvanderVelden Tried feed the beast... NOPE.

Ben Brocka

@5pike Yeah I don't even know what else they could possibly expect

"There sure are a lot of guys to shoot in this FPS 6.5/10"

5pike

@BenBrocka You know, uninformed reviewers grind my gears to the melting point.

Sterno

Once upon a time we had a question on the site about what systems Zelda games have come out for, or something like that. I'm pretty sure it was closed and spawned a meta, but I can't find it. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

kalina

@fredley nope

fredley

15:48

@kalina Why not?

kalina

because I never intend to

fbueckert

@Sterno I remember the question. I don't remember the meta.

Sterno

@fbueckert Unfortunately, searching for deleted questions is a PITA

kalina

@Sterno formats should be covered on the tag wiki anyway

and as such, would make any question about them trivial

Sterno

The one I'm thinking of was a little different than that. It was basically "tell me the history of all the zelda games"

fredley

15:50

@kalina Why not?

Is best game

Sterno

It doesn't directly relate to this meta but it made me think of it and I'm trying to find it

Wipqozn

@Sterno No, but if I saw it I'm sure i downvoted it because that sounds like a terrible question.

kalina

@Sterno are you sure that was a question

Ben Brocka

@5pike Yeah. I should just...not read reviews

fredley

BG2 > ME

kalina

15:51

I'm sure there have been a bunch of posts in chat with that particular image

Wipqozn

@Sterno Oh, I think I remember that question.

kalina

which demonstrates that zelda's story is complete bullshit

Sterno

@kalina No, it's not the timeline thing. It was an actual question

Ben Brocka

I wish there were a site that promised to only have someone who appreciates the genre review games

Zerofennec

Sterno

15:51

I might have a few details wrong but that was the gist of it

Ben Brocka

You wouldn't want me reviewing a sports game, I'd have 0 idea what I'm talking about

5pike

@BenBrocka That is actually a good mindset. Just play the damn game you are interested in and form your own opinion.

kalina

@Sterno would it not be better to search the chat transcript if the question has been deleted

Sterno

It had to do with real-life Zelda game history, not in-game history

kalina

since lazers would have spammed it at some point

fbueckert

15:52

@Sterno I definitely have comments on it. Let's see if I can find them...

Wipqozn

@5pike The point of a review is for you to figure out if i's a game you'd enjoy.

Lazers

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Q: How to send Riley out to Attack in Call of Duty:Ghosts multiplayer?

How can you send Riley out to attack in Call of Duty: Ghosts Multiplayer? I've seen him attacking people but the description only reads something like Nothing like man's best friend watching your back. Does this mean that he can only defend a given radius around the player or can you speci...

call-of-duty-ghosts

Wipqozn

It's not meant to be "this is crap", unless all you do is look at the score and argue in the comments.

Sterno

@kalina That is a good idea, but I ran out of effort units to give about 5 minutes ago

And it's time for lunch

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn Yeah, but the wrong perspective can make a review useless for the people who actually buy a game

5pike

15:53

@Wipqozn And how should I know that by watching some random snippets of a game?

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn looking at just the score can be useful if you know what the reviewer likes and you do it multiple times

fbueckert

@Sterno Oh, that's a different question, then.

kalina

@Sterno chat.stackexchange.com/…

Wipqozn

@5pike Because it gives you an idea of what the game is about and how it's played.

Ben Brocka

I have no doubt 90% of game reviewers would give harshly negative scores to most bullet hell games, but that does nothing to help me decide which bullet hell games are good for their genre

Kevin van der Velden

15:53

That way you can kinda see the intersection of things the reviewers like and see if it's something you might like

Wipqozn

If watching a video doesn't give you a solid idea of what a game is about and if you'll enjoy it then you're watching the wrong videos.

Or reading the wrong reviews.

Ben Brocka

@KevinvanderVelden that's the problem though, I don't have time to learn all of these people's inclinations and who understands what genre

Zerofennec

Anyone play Dwarf Fortress?

Sterno

Has Lazers been around from the beginning?

Ben Brocka

@Wipqozn yeah, video footage of the actual game I'll watch

Kevin van der Velden

15:54

@Zerofennec jup

5pike

@Wipqozn Reviews usually don't show you that. Let's plays do

Ben Brocka

but reviews themselves are too hit and miss...from a surprising amount of outlets

kalina

@Sterno quite a while at least

fredley

Oh God I regret ever visiting the DMZ

kalina

@Sterno remember this particular query has 'history' in it, w hich is going to be filtering quite a few results

Kevin van der Velden

15:55

@BenBrocka that's why I like zero punctuation and total biscuit, they seem pretty consistent and usually explain WHY they don't like something

5pike

Also This

Kevin van der Velden

Though of course ZP is 90% humour so

Zerofennec

EA gets no more of my money.

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Mad Scientist

@fredley Event notification in chat are pure evil and guaranteed to be about an event that you don't have the slightest interest in. And you can't easily get rid of them

Ben Brocka

Was going to say, ZP is funny and occasionally has some relevant criticisms but it's more about cracking jokes than whether the game is good

kalina

15:56

@KevinvanderVelden I use ZP like a legitimate review service

Adnan

@fredley REVENGE!

kalina

if he says a game is bad, I purge knowing it existed from my memory

fredley

@MadScientist brb, it's userscript time

@Adnan :(

Zerofennec

They haven't got a cent from me since they stripped their games from Steam and put them into Origin.

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina I've liked a few games he absolutely hated, but that was because he disliked specific things I have no problems with

Adnan

15:57

@fredley It's alright, we still like you guys.

Kevin van der Velden

Skyrim/Oblivion for example

kalina

@Adnan no you don't

SaintWacko

Morning, Bridge

kalina

@Zerofennec duno, I bought ME3 + SimCity

Zerofennec

Good....*checks clock*...morning to you too!

SaintWacko

15:58

@Zerofennec I DO!

kalina

then again, I didn't like SimCity all that much (preferred it in beta) and ME3's last 15 was terrible

SaintWacko

<3 DF

kalina

although the Citadel DLC was awesome

5pike

@Zerofennec I only buy origin games from sources, of which I know that EA won't get a dime.

Lucas Kauffman

@fredley well we won't ever come over here again, as long as you promise to keep Kalina over here :3

5pike

15:59

There are surprisingly many

kalina

@LucasKauffman he has no control over me

Ben Brocka

@kalina was the free DLC thing any good? Or just a slightly different ending or what?

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