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@alexanderpas: Oh, just saw in an old room that you're Dutch, makes sense if I see your name. I'm Dutch too...
@TomWij I would be surprised if it was otherwise ;)
@TomWij: You should come to our theoretical future GSE Dutchmeet :P
Yeah, it's amazing how much Dutch people are around here.
Maybe I should start making a list and checking it twice.
There was once a Dutch question on Super User and a lot of Dutch people made comments there, so I translated the question before it got worse...
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Q: How much money is required to get to the key in the Fable 3 Sanctuary treasure room?

BlakeThe question likely says it all, but, in the treasure room in the Sanctuary is a key up high. As you gather money, the pile grows and you can climb on it. I'm wondering exactly how much gold you are required to accumulate to be able to reach the key. I assume the key opens the chest in the same r...

answers review please, I'm going to sleep.
01:28
@ardaxi Ping.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Pong.
What's up?
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just made some ad banners for the Gaming site
moar traffic from SO for joo
@Jin lemme see ;)
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user image
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can't really use their official graphics, so i had to mimic the feel
very nicely done!
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01:36
thx. i'm still tweaking some. but should be up tomorrow
Cool.
01:48
@Jin That's amazing.
@ArdaXi You should update your answer to my question re: mods. (The answer is no, they don't affect achievements at all), so I can award you the bounty.
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@LessPop_MoreFizz thanks. that particular question got 6k views already.
@LessPop_MoreFizz Feels like cheating. Also, really? I didn't expect that
@Jin So few votes for so many views.
@ArdaXi I was surprised too. But I just got 3 achieves in the past few minutes with DarnUI, some inventory sorting mods, and a few others that even affect gameplay! (Upgraded lucky 38, and one that removes the faction mask from the NCR Ranger Combat Armor - because it is badass as all hell looking.)
updated it. Seems odd though, it's pretty easy to cheat through mods
In other news: Meltdown is THE BEST PERK
jumped by 6 Omerta thugs? 1 headshot and THEY ALL DIE.
in a massive fireball of green goo.
01:58
@LessPop_MoreFizz You need to award the bounty separately I think
Oh, it was outstanding a few moments ago. Anyway, thanks :)
and yeah, you can easily break the game with mods
i.e. I'm going to run a perk every level mod on my next playthrough, and restrict myself to the oddball 'flavor' perks that just add dialog options or goofy shit on odd levels.
GAMEBRYO. WORLD CLASS PHYSICS AND AI.
 
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04:52
in Chat feedback, 1 min ago, by Michael Mrozek
@Brant No idea, it's probably an accident (three of them look like the default rooms generated for all the SE sites, so maybe something went wrong when doing that). A gaming mod can delete them if they're unnecessary, you might want to mention it to one of them
Re: The duplicate Gaming rooms in the room list
05:14
@TomWij Its not an issue of buildings is an issue of being able to produce out of them. He doesn't have the economy for Siege Tanks + MM, and Siege Tanks alone will fall, not to mention he has to spend time researching Siege.
@TomWij I don't think that's true, even with those banelings as zerglings, his attack would still get stomped. If anything it'd get stomped faster
mass marine does a great job of cleaning up Zergling, and Tarson was producing a lot of marines. Only reason you don't see them is that the banelings were cleaning up
remember Marauders are not a dps unit
For cost they have a third of the dps of Marines
Bly's choice to focus on cleaning up the marines is the correct way to handle MMM balls
if he focused more heavily on killing Marauders (ie. more zerglings) Tarson would have cleaned him up faster
He only survived as long as he did because of the banelings
06:13
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Q: Is it possible to lay a block adjacent to another without looking at the face of the existing block?

DavidI want to build a bridge over a valley to allow fast travelling between 2 areas. The only way I can see to do it is this: Build steps up to the level I need. Move right to the end of the last block placed Turn around so I can see a bit of the face of the last block Place the block so it extends...

06:29
@Jin Is it cheating if I get ads made for my question? ;-)
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@Fabian what are your questions? I just made ads from the higher viewed questions
@Jin: I believe you meant to ping @Fabian
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@FallenAngelEyes you're right. sorry!
I was just suprised to see my question in that ad
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@fabian that question got 6k views! how did that happen?
06:45
I was wondering that myself when it got the first 1k views in no time, I checked and back then it was for me in the first 10 google results for power armor fallout new vegas. I suspect that is the reason.
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i wonder if it got reddited or digged.
Don't think so. Just good google juice for the .se domain.
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we've been pretty impressed by Gaming site's traffic.
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it probably will catch up to Serverfault's in a few months lol
I wish people from gamefaq's would migrate to our site... I can't stand the forum there, even though I used to use it a lot.
I'd have to go through like 10pages just to find the answer I wanted
gamefaqs forums are the gaping cesspool of all that is wrong with the internet.
Whenever I browse gamefaqs forums, I feel my IQ plummeting by the second, so I try not to do it long.
I've got two other Fallout New Vegas questions that have together 5k views. But my Civ 5 questions have barely any traffic compared to that. It seems to be very game dependent.
It is not
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I like forums for chit chat or subjective stuff. But when I look for an answer, I just want to get in' n get out fast. less time wasted searching = moar time playing.
07:03
@Jin well said
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hey @tzenes long time no see
at least it feels like a long time...
I think we've been keeping different hours
though I have been around less lately
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i've lost track of time lately... been living some crazy hours
I know the feeling
user30
07:24
@tzenes I'll do that once I've finished off the permissions then
08:14
Posted by Jeff Atwood on November 1st, 2010

I’m a big fan of annoying my coworkers. Problem is, I don’t have any coworkers because I work remotely from home. An impossible conundrum. Or is it?

Enter Rovio, the wi-fi enabled robotic WebCam.

Rovio got mixed reviews, but we decided to give it a shot anyway. You control Rovio through a web browser interface, with full (but low-res) video and audio. Here’s a few shots of us driving around the New York World Headquarters.

Like explorers from the old world, we created maps of the New York office as we discovered it. Note that Rovio can auto-dock with its base station when you get close enough to it — so you can drive around for quite a while as long as you remember to return to the dock before the batteries die.  …

08:45
in Chat feedback on Meta Stack Overflow Chat, 22 mins ago, by Marc Gravell
@rchern @radp (under the alias @badp) - I just thought you'd like to know that apparently you are listed as keywords for SO-chat according to google... I'm only jealous because I'm not ):
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@badp i'm jealous too
and you're gathering google juice under 2 IDs too...
Rather, I'm confused
I barely spoke in SO chat.
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oh i thought he meant SE chats in general
I don't think Google has a notion of "SE chats in general..."
anyway, the google hits for "badp" are refreshingly not me
4 messages moved to poor, poor Sandbox
7 messages moved to even poorer Sandbox
09:26
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Q: How do I examine door in mass effect 2?

HarshIn the very first mission, after meeting Jacob I am stuck at a job which says Examine Door. The current job is to defeat the hacked mechs whose army appears to be endless. There appears to be no end to their attack and the map leads to the door which says Examine Door. I am stuck. What shall I do?

09:44
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Q: Borderlands Skills

AlbortAnyone know why 3-4 of the shapes on Brick's skill tree are hexagonal, while the rest are square? Flavour, or otherwise...?

09:55
I don't know what I did, but I'm sorry @google -- http://goo.gl/tNeA
10:21
@tzenes: It's in his plan, he has made a Fac + Tech. And even one single tank would make a lot of difference...
Instead of hitting the buildings he should have hit the army with his Banelings, but that would go better with Speedlings than with those slow Banelings.
(As an upgrade of speed wasn't in his plan)
10:52
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A: How to move the paddle in pong?

ChristopherAh, this is a problem I had for quite a while. I eventually found that you have to adopt a crab stance (cf. Bruce Lee stance) in order to effectively swing the controller fully between your legs. It feels odd at first, maybe "uncomfortable" or "ridiculous" as some observers might say, but trust ...

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Q: safe places in left 4 dead 2

samrockonwhere can i find places in l4d2 that zombies cant reach (or just the safest places)? for example on 3rd stage of parish i can stay on fence and zombies will just staing around while team shooting them.

 
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Q: how to run all the games full screen in laptop with 15.6 inch display

rajaramhello, i am using dell vostro 1015 and while i play games in full screen it displays in 800*600 resolution and other places are filled as black i mean my laptop is wide screen it displays only in the center of my laptop with 800*600 resolution....

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Q: I coul I land for a treasure hunt in Sid Meier's Pirates for the WII

DavRob60I got a complete treasure map and I know where to land to find it. But I cannot, my ship keep bouncing on the beach. I played that game long ago on my computer and I'm trying the Wii version. I don't remember if I had to do something special on the PC version, what I remember is that I just had ...

@Feeds Not sure that's even answerable
@TomWij Tarson usually plays MMM into BioMech, his plan doesn't involve Tanks until very late game. I'm not sure why you think speed upgrade wasn't bly's plan, speed upgrades are always a good idea for Zerg
13:21
He just reverted my entire edit...
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Q: Where are safe places in left 4 dead 2?

samrockonwhere can i find places in l4d2 that zombies cant reach (or just the safest places)? for example on 3rd stage of parish i can stay on fence and zombies will just staing around while team shooting them.

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Q: Can a headless zombie eat your plants?

MechkoIn Plants vs Zombies, often, when a zombie loses its head, it continues making munching motions. I usually freak out and bomb them with something when they get that close, but I'm curious if it continues to damage your plants.

13:33
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Q: Will an Xbox 360 bought in the US work in India?

JenkoAre there any issues with an Xbox 360 sent from US to India? I'm selling mine on eBay and I'm wondering if the guy will be able to play the games I'm sending along, and would he be able to play on Xbox Live as well? Or login to a Live account? A friend told me that Microsoft has region-locked X...

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Q: What are all the different *titles* for finishing the campaign?

Juan ManuelI know there is the Casual Campaign Ace, but: What are all possible titles What are the requirements for each? If you first achieved one, and then you play the campaign again, can you get another (higher I assume, as there is only one slot)? I'm talking about this thing in the profile:

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Q: Why does gaming have an 8-bit theme?

JenkoModern video gaming is some of the most (if not the most) visually appealing and graphically intensive activity you can do on a PC/Console. Yet, the gaming stackexchange sports a theme that's out of an 8-bit handheld toy, complete with pixelated graphics and gaudy colors. Do you think we deserv...

Good afternoon all
morning
Blargh need coffee
@Feeds wow, that meta-question got some quick responses.
14:14
Blarg need more coffee. and I gotta head home... I mean... the department
14:27
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Q: Where can I see the real rank of a player?

Juan ManuelI see a lot of people referring to players as 2500 diamond for example. Where can I see this rank? All I found was the position within the division, but not that number that seems to be global (by region? In the world?)

Hey, I can answe... aargh, @tzenes, you ninja!
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Q: Do trade routes activate between my cities when a road goes through city states or other civilizations' cities?

Daniel LewSuppose I've got a capital, a city, and a city state in between, where the dashes represent roads: Capital ------ City-State ----- My City The road goes straight through the city-state. I understand that I don't get a trade route to the city-state, but would I still get a trade route to my cit...

Nuts. Didn't get on yesterday and lost my consecutive days.
@alexanderpas Would you expect otherwise?
I keep losing my consecs. Stupid grad school. :(
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Q: What popular nintendo wii games require you to use a nunchuk controller?

Catch22Not looking for a definitive list or anything but of the most popular Wii titles, which ones require you to use a nunchuk controller? Also, are there games that optionally allow use of the nunchuk controller?

I was up to around 56. Argh. Stupid Halloween traditions.
14:52
gosh I have job/wife/friends/church/other activities it's a shame I can't be awesome at games/SE/underwater basket weaving
My family and friends carved 15 pumpkins yesterday. And we only got like 5 groups of trick-or-treaters to show them off to. :(
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@GnomeSlice you can edit your messages here too.
Heh.
So I take it we hit 10,000 posts yesterday?
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Q: How to move the paddle in pong?

badpI can't seem to move the paddle in pong. I've been shaking my joystick up and down, but the padddle doesn't want move.

15:01
...Is that it?
Heh.
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Q: (How) should we discourage extended discussion in comments?

OakWhat triggered this post is this question, which has two quality answers but due to some contested points, both have spurred lengthy discussions in comments from a few users. Now, I have no problem with the users here - I think the comments there are all relevant and on-topic - but I do think th...

15:17
@tzenes: Then, how would you explain Tarson's Fac + Tech?
And how would you explain Bly not having the upgrade done when he needs it?
Sounds like it isn't planned nor executed...
Tarson goes for factory on his way to medivacs
With a Tech Lab?
the tech lab is for his late game transition
building it ahead of time is a smart move
but he doesn't use it
I don't really give Bly enough credit for knowing what he was doing
the truth is he knew it was a gamble
Well, either way he has either a Tank or a Medivac and not just plain M&M.
he knew he was making a huge economic sacrifice for an all in
@TomWij he had medivacs?
blys choice in upgrades is a reflection of the realization that he has to win quickly
15:19
Yes, if he did not have those he would have had a Tank.
those two costs are not identicle
more over, medivac supports mmm
tank needs support
he Tarson had gone tank his MM would have been smaller and he would have been overrun by bly
I don't see that as panic-ing, as much as trying to cheese
@tzenes Tanks don't need support if you place them right, I don't see his Speedlings/Banelings hit the tank if it were away from the wall.
wait what?
have you played starcraft before?
or did you mistype
15:22
because?
I don't understand
I am completely confused now
are you thinking he does a tank drop of the cliff?
No
Away from the wall as in his base behind a building
So you have: Wall / Marauders / Building / Tank
And you would be left with Tank + Marines against the Speedlings.
ok, you need to stop editing there
is it marauders or marines?
Didn't edit anything, did an actual replace of the entire sentence.
See the history...
15:25
Ok, one thing says marauders, the other says marines
which is it?
Banelings destroy Wall + Marauders, so you're left with Marines.
why would the banelings destroy the marauders?
the tank will do that
Yes, too.
so why would you send the banelings after the marauders?
ignore the marauders send the banelings after the marines
let the zerglings attack the marauders
You don't, they are right after the Wall, have you seen the replay?
15:27
the tank will clean up the marauders for you
yeah I'm looking at it and not seeing a tank
so that would make this conjecture
I'm also trying to ignore the fact that you can't afford tank + marauder off one base
@tzenes I don't see how ignoring them would work, as the Banelings wouldn't reach the Marines before they die/explode.
I'm not sure how you can make that assessment
you send 6 up the front break the supply, send in the zerglings and send the banelings after
@tzenes Well, that could worked, but is ineffective as you transformed too much Banelings.
even boxer doesn't have the micro to pick them up
it doesn't have to be effective
Tarson was dumb enough to build a tank
@tzenes Tank cleaning Marauders, are you attacking yourself? :-S
15:29
or in this hypothetical situation
Tank splash hurts allies
Zergling vs Marauder + Siege mode = gg
Zerglings engage, the tanks clean the Marauders and your left with slow tanks to deal with whatever the Zerg wants
No, you would hit your own wall with the Tank, but not the Marauders.
what? no, the wall gets busted
this is becoming intensely convoluted
Banelings get hit by Marauders + Tank.
Wall gets hit by Banelings + Tank.
its ok they'll still make it up the ramp
Marauders hit by Banelings, but not by Tank.
15:31
thats all they have to do
why would the marauders get hit by the banelings?
this doesn't make any sense
Splash damage from those that pass.
why would any pass?
Well
That's what you were stating, by saying that the Tank would hit the Marauders. >_<
ok let's try this again
6 banelings + wall = bye bye wall
zerglings engage marauder
you only need a handful for that as the tank does your heavy lifting
then the rest of the banelings come in
they clean the marines
At this point you need a total of 2 Zerglings to kill the tank
so your army requirements look like: 8 zerglings, 10 banelings
maybe more depending on how many marines he has
tiny force. But then again, you can't afford Marauders + Tank on one base
Sure you can.
15:35
ok, you can if you want to waste resources and not build continuously
but if you're doing that you'll lose regardless
in reality you can't actually afford it and its a wast of money on unit producing structures you're not using
No, you're using them right after.
right after what?
Zerg army is dead --> Harass & Expand
the Zerg army isn't going to die
Yes, they do.
After the wall broke, your sending in Speedlings against Tank + Marauders + Marines.
15:37
if you're trying to produce tanks + marauders off one base you don't have the resources to support an army to kill the zerg
To finish off Banelings vs Marauders that are left + Tank + Marines
we're not taking BioMech, we're talking 4Marines + 2 Marauders + Siege Tank + a partridge in a pear tree
So you're left with a Tank and Marines.
you don't have the dps to do that
you need more like 6-8 Marauders + 12 Marines
You can afford that of one base.
15:38
zerg overwhelms you with sheer numbers ;)
yes you can afford 6-8 Marauders + 12 Marines off one base, that's true
but not that + tanks
Thats why you see people go 3 rax expand into bio mech
and not bio mech into expand
@alexanderpas: That's not what it is about, it's about your unit composition. But he always tries to change the subject to economy...
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Q: How do I get the 'Medical Expert 2' Tonic?

GnomeSlice      So, just after defeating Sander Cohen, I noticed that I was able to use his key to open Sander Cohen's Muse Box, which contained various goodies. However, net to the case which contained this box, is another case, containing the Medical Expert 2 tonic. This case is not lock...

3 Rax, 1 Fac, then Expand.
Tell you what, go play some ladder games where you go 3 Rax + Factory into expand and see how it goes for you
see if you aren't dying to early pressure, or forced to expand before you have tanks
or winning against people who turtle
15:43
Well: Better than Tarson's expansion (cost of 450 Minerals minimum) being destroyed. ;-)
doubtful
Tarson won that game
Bly would take you apart
Yes, because of the wrong amount of Banelings.
And the wrong push into his base.
And the economy.
no, I think Bly had the right number of banelings
he just gambled that he could overwhelm tarson
and tarson was a good enough player that he wasn't overwhelmed
There was no combination of units that Bly could have won with, but the combination he had did as well as he could possibly do
even if bly had pulled back at that point he had over committed to the assault.
he knew he wasn't going to win
@tzenes I can hold off early pressure, and I can get a Tank before my expand when I need one. Depends on what I scouted...
@tzenes Well, my post explains how to do that.
Ok now you're just making stuff up here
Clearly there are players who will beat you with early pressure
15:46
@tzenes It's about being more effective, not about being effective.
doesn't matter your strategy
@Feeds This is why "Don't kill Sander Cohen the first time you meet him" is my standard advice to anyone about to play Bioshock for the first time.
so either your claiming you'll do better against early pressure or something else that's not clear
@tzenes But it's not, I'm not going to repeat myself again.
@TomWij the combination he had did as well as he could possibly do
I realize you think there is a more effective combination but I disagree
15:48
@tzenes: No, he could've done better as his Banelings were ineffective.
What part of breaking into his base and decimating his army was ineffective?
@tzenes: Either by changing the unit composition to make it easier or by doing more micro.
@tzenes I'm not going to repeat myself, let me guess... Maybe... The banelings?
no, I mean what part was the ineffective part
what part of the banelings
@tzenes: The one I've previously explained over and over again, for which you do nothing more than change subject.
be really really specific here
what part of the banelings was ineffective
15:52
3 - 4 die before hitting the wall
3 - 4 die by hitting the wall
3 - 4 die by hitting the Marauders, but they were supposed to hit the Marines?
Only 2 Banelings left by now, no Marines hit.
1 Baneling dies in the middle of nothing.
1 Baneling dies again in the middle of nothing.
0 Banelings hit the Marines.
Not to forget about how much more devastating it would be if there was a Tank. ;-)
His initial push had 15 banelings, against 6 Marauders + 8 Marines
look at that second youtube link
And/or more Marauders if he had scouted the Banelings.
that's 20 Zerglings against 1 Marauder and 6 marines
look at the difference in those two battles
15:56
So, he ends up running through his base doing some late scouting and gets some Speedlings killed and needs to go outside to gather his rest + produced Speedlings.
With more Speedlings he shouldn't have had the need to retreat.
In the first battle (the one where Terran had more forces) he defeats the army but doesn't have enough speedlings to take on the SCVs
With that amount of Banelings, only 2 Banelings manage to pass and don't hit the Marines...
in the second battle he doesn't have enough Banelings and gets curb stomped by a smaller Terran army
So...
Conclusion: Too much Banelings, not enough Speedlings in the first one.
how can you possibly draw that conclusion?
in the first he wins with more banelings, in the second he loses with less
how can you then say too many banelings?
15:58
Read the whole conversiation again from where you gave the link.
I did
I still don't see how you can draw that conclusion
it is unthinkable to me
3 - 4 die on Marauders (but they should hit Marines), 2 more die in the middle of nothing.
"When I send it a bunch of banelings, I do well. When I send it fewer I do poorly. Better build less banelings"
this doesn't make sense to me

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