The Bridge

fredley

10:00

FEichinger

@fredley That's not really parsing HTML all that much.

fredley

@FEichinger It's still terrible

I mean look at it

3ventic

That's not parsing HTML, that's parsing a tag

fredley

eugh

FEichinger

@fredley Actually ... I think it could work.

3ventic

10:01

I have no idea what that was for.

It's been a long time

fredley

<td align="center" width="90%" valign="top">(.*?)</td> is the worst regexp I've ever seen

FEichinger

<td> isn't supposed to contain further <td> tags by spec if I'm not mistaken, so it should work. It's a horrible regex, sure, but it would work. Unlike the "parsing HTML" argument. :P

3ventic

It's over a year old screenshot

FEichinger

Which just flat out doesn't work.

3ventic

Now I'm bothered about where I would have ever used that

FEichinger

10:03

@3ventic You should be.

3ventic

I might be able to find out

Nope, couldn't find such

./global/saveplayer.php:if (preg_match("/[^A-Za-z0-9.]/", $newuser)) {
./global/saveplayer.php:$cartext = preg_replace("(\.|:|,)", "", $cartext);
./global/saveplayer.php:                if(preg_match("/^({[0-9a-fA-F]{6}}|[a-zA-Z0-9 ]+)+$/", $cartext) == 1) $query .= "CarString = '$cartext', ";
./global/saveplayer.php:        preg_match('/^[]a-zA-Z0-9.=[()_]{4,20}$/', $user_new, $matches);
./global/upload.php://else if(preg_match($_FILES["file"]["name"], '\[[a-zA-Z]{2,5}\][a-zA-Z0-9]+-[a-zA-Z0-9 ]+\.zip') != 1) header(); // Add error message, check functionality.

badp

10:19

@FEichinger nested tables

also let me say that using / to delimit REs is just about the worst possible character choice possible

those /s around those \s make me seasick

FEichinger

@badp Which are not supposed to exist by the spec anymore, I believe.

badp

@FEichinger can't find anything about this.

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/table says html is a flow content category tag

developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/td says tds can have any flow content in it

so yeah, nested tables are legal HTML at least according to the MDN

Blem

3

FEichinger

@badp sigh And here I was, thinking the W3C would actually do an aggressive approach where it's actually useful.

But no, instead we get bullshit HTTP bastardising and the finger to backwards-compatibility for some fancy animations. Good job.

3ventic

@FEichinger Why would you not allow tables inside tables?

fredley

10:30

Tables in tables seems logical to me.

Arperum

@3ventic BECAUSE TABLES ARE FOR DATA, NOT FOR LAYOUT!!!

fredley

It's especially useful when you're using tabled for layout, but want to display a table somewhere.

FEichinger

@3ventic The only valid use for tables inside tables is layouting. Which is what you're not supposed to use tables for to begin with.

@fredley ಠ_ಠ

fredley

I always use tables for layout

Arperum

using tables for layout is the very definition of evil.

FEichinger

10:32

@Arperum This.

fredley

I just export html from pshotoshop and use that

3

Arperum

CSS exists for a reason.

3ventic

What if you have table data inside your data that's in a table?

fredley

What if you want to display a table of tables?

FEichinger

@3ventic Then you have likely screwed up your table.

I have yet to see a single instance of truly valid tables-inside-tables.

Arperum

10:33

@3ventic Then you could use rowspan/colspan or display this second table on a separate page because information overload and such.

fredley

Anybodys definition of truly valid is subjective

Use tds everywhere so you can aligned things vertically

Arperum

2 mins ago, by Arperum

using tables for layout is the very definition of evil.

fredley

God damp it SwiftKey

FEichinger

@fredley CSS does that a lot better.

Arperum

@FEichinger This.

fredley

10:35

What's CSS?

Arperum

@fredley Stop trolling.

3ventic

Too far

FEichinger

For that matter, vertically aligning stuff with tables is just beyond ridiculous.

fredley

But you were all getting so involved!

I remember the days before CSS, when tables were the done thing. Those were dark, dark days.

HTML WAS IN ALL CAPS ALL THE TIME

FEichinger

@fredley Well, no, they were bright days.

Bright and flashy gif animation days.

fredley

10:37

Oh this was before geocities

I was on the Internet before you were born etc etc

FEichinger

At any rate, tables-inside-tables is just stupid. Don't do it. If you do it, I will murder a kitten. Think of the kittens.

@fredley I genuinely doubt that, porkchop. I genuinely doubt that.

fredley

What if I hate kittens?

FEichinger

@fredley ಠ_ಠ

fredley

@Fei I have no idea hoe old most people in here are...

Arperum

@fredley Then I will dress up your favorite animal and deliver that to @FEichinger to use as a kitten.

fredley

10:40

@arp you are sick

Arperum

@fredley That's known for a while.

fredley

Disguising a rhinoceros as a kitten may be difficult anyway

As would shipping it

Arperum

@fredley I'm sure @FEichinger won't mind if it's a kitty with a horn.

FEichinger

Horribly, horribly murder...

3ventic

murder

fredley

10:42

I'd enjoy watching you try and murder an enraged rhinoceros

Stack Exchange

Stack Exchange Network Status: 2013-10-13 Outage PostMortem

posted on October 13, 2013

This morning at approximately 05:41:59 UTC we experienced an outage of our NY-SQLCL04 Cluster which hosts most things that aren’t Stack Overflow. This outage lasted approximately 2 minutes. Beginning 20 minutes earlier, we observed VPN connectivity issues with our secondary data center in Oregon. This resulted in dynamic quorum fluxuation as the SQL cluster’s 3rd node (OR-SQL02) …

FEichinger

@StackExchange Do we get one of these every three years now?

Lazers

0

Q: Paladin Hoss is dead. Now what?

In Fallout 3 I met Paladin Hoss and another guy fighting super mutants, and they recruited me to follow them in finding their teammate. But after a minute or so, he got blasted and died by one of the mutants. Is there any way to replay the mission as it seems to be a good opportunity for farming?...

fallout-3

0

Q: Achieve "Replicant challenge" in Flashback 2013

I know the game has been criticized hard for its gameplay, but is there a technique to finish the "Replicant challenge" ? Game reference : http://www.ubi.com/UK/Games/Info.aspx?pId=11899

pc flash

Arperum

@Lazers Stupid tags and title fixed if someone would review my changes.

Stupid less then 2k rep.

3ventic

@Arperum Approved

Arperum

10:48

I really should stop being lazy and get that last 45 rep >_< then that approving part is over.

kalina

what was that? You want 45 rep?

Kevin van der Velden

> Arperum was temporarily banned for voting irregularities

kalina

that's not how it works

Kevin van der Velden

@kalina you sure 'bout that? =p

kalina

100%

Arperum

10:55

@KevinvanderVelden The rep just gets taken away again.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum pff you're no fun :(

kalina

not until 5-6+ votes in a row

2 spaces for payday 2

Arperum

@kalina Not owning the game makes it impossible for me to fill in a space.

@kalina Me joining would also result in terrible accidents happening, and probably a sudden burst of friendly fire aimed at me.

Lazers

11:08

0

Q: How do I get a statue to activate from a timer?

I'm trying to figure out wiring; I have the following diagram, a heart statue hooked up to a 1-second timer. The timer is on, but the statue is not activating. What's wrong with my wiring?

terraria

0

Q: Where do you get the first generation legendaries in X and Y?

I am aware that there are three 6th generation pokemon, but apparently you are able to get the legendary bird trio (Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres) and Mewtwo (for mega evolutions). How do you get these pokemon in Pokemon X/Y?

pokemon-xy

badp

11:19

@FEichinger what? CSS is truly awful at any kind of vertical alignment that isn't "top"

FEichinger

11:32

@badp Only if you do half-assed positioning. Which you do, because fuck positioning in CSS, but still.

Wipqozn

shanodin, Lancaster, UK

3.7k 3 14

discussion tags flags support allowed-questions community-event meetup

Now I'm always going to be confusing @shanodin and @fbnoideahowtospellitohgodwhy

FEichinger

@Wipqozn @fbueckert

Also, blame @fredley, I believe.

Wipqozn

Scumbag @fredley.

badp

11:51

KABLE DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

how can you be SO TERRIBLE

FEichinger

@badp Hm?

badp

or maybe it's the router itself

all I know is that this weekend I'm having to reboot the router, with the actual power plug, every five hours or so

the internet connectivity just dies suddenly

Wipqozn

12:04

@badp That sounds really annoying.

Sounds like it might be a router problem though.

badp

kable deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee is more fun to shout.

user58869

@kalina what do you mean?

Lazers

12:21

0

Q: Minecraft PE have commands?

Is there any minecraft Pocket Edition single/multi player commands(or admin commands)?

ios minecraft-pocket-edition

Lazers

12:32

0

Q: Getting all Kanto starters in X and Y?

I have beaten the Elite Four and somebody is selling me a Mega Stone for Venusaur in a shop in Lumiose City. I have chosen Charizard, and I'm wondering if the only way to get Venusaur is through the trading methods of Pokemon games.

pokemon-sixth-gen pokemon-xy

Mad Scientist

@badp You're not doing anything funny like changing your MAC address regularly? I've no idea why, but my cable modem gets horribly confused if I change the MAC address of the connected computer (or directly connect a different one) and I have to completely restart it

badp

@MadScientist I'm afraid not.

FEichinger

@MadScientist Well, maybe that's because you're not supposed to change the MAC address. :P

badp

I mean, the fanciest thing I'm doing here is having a Chromebook

Mad Scientist

Internet providers all suck, either you get lucky and don't have any big problems, or you'll curse your current provider until you can switch to the next crappy one

badp

12:40

@MadScientist I got lucky in Italy. Libero had about a couple weekends' worth of downtime in about ten years

Mad Scientist

@FEichinger But I should be able to put a router in between without having to restart the modem.

FEichinger

@MadScientist Obviously.

Mad Scientist

@FEichinger Well, that changes the MAC adress of the network card directly connected to the modem, which then just stops working until I restart it ;-)

Lazers

0

Q: How can i get dryad in village?

i already build new home for her but nothing happens. i have 18 gold(if that matters) but no one goes in new home. in my village i already have first 4 NPCs.

terraria ios

0

Q: Can enemies from statues drop a hardmode dungeon key?

The (gamepedia) wiki claims that "every enemy" has a chance of dropping a dungeon key for the biome that it is in, and I see nothing to suggest otherwise in the other wiki or update logs, yet it seems strange that all farming tutorials for the keys are making use of spike traps and meteor heads r...

terraria

Lazers

13:08

0

Q: Do some items make the Blood Moon event more common?

I'm playing in a new 1.2 world, and the Blood Moon rises nearly every night! My character is currently weak enough that I'm having a tough time staying alive, and it's getting to be frustrating. Are there items in the game world that make the Blood Moon event more likely to happen? Or is lady luc...

terraria

Lazers

13:20

0

Q: How can i enable Hardmode?

I need to have some items to make my world Hard Mode?

terraria ios

RedRiderX

I know you're trying @Lazers, but I don't think you can hold up the Bridge on your own.

Wipqozn

@RedRiderX You gotta have faith.

Ronan Forman

Why does that guy keep tagging terraria questions with ios?

Private Pansy

There is a mobile version of Terraria, but I'm not sure if it's available on iOS

Ronan Forman

Left a comment, hopefully they'll read it.

Also adding a question mark doesn't make something a question.

Lazers

13:32

0

Q: How to get Pitt slave clothes, after already looting the slave camp

The prerequisite for starting the pitt DLC is to find pitt slave clothes. I already freed the slaves in question and looted the body in the slave pens long before I I tried to start the pitt DLC. This means that simply getting clothes from the area by the objective marker is not an option. Is t...

fallout-3 fallout

Blem

Eugene

hi there

Wipqozn

@Eugene Hello

Eugene

guys quick Q. Who knows. Does Diablo 3 allow two legendary crossbows per hero? Even more two same legendary items.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Hey, it's not THAT hard to spell!

Also, good morning, peeps.

Wipqozn

13:40

@fbueckert No, but when I have no idea how to pronounce it also means I have no idea what the word actually is.

@Eugene I have no idea. You could ask one the site.

Blem

5

Q: Can you wear/use multiple legendary items of the same type?

Can you wear/use multiple legendary items of the same type? I bought a legendary ring for argument sake call it the ring of power, now when I bought another ring of power I was unable to equip both of them at the same. Now if I get if I get a different legendary ring called the ring of wisdom. W...

diablo-3

Wipqozn

Man, @Blem's a hero.

fbueckert

Saves us from a dupe question. That's hero material, alright.

Lazers

0

Q: How can I defend my home against hallow/corruption in hard mode?

I'm reasonably close to the point where I would try to trigger hard mode, and I'm making some preparations. As far as I understand, once I trigger hard mode, corruption and hallow will spread quickly. I'd like to prevent my home base from becomnig corrupted/hallowed, what do I have to do to ens...

terraria

RedRiderX

Hey, this actually seems like a pretty slick Markdown editor.

Eugene

13:46

@Blem I see. So, that would mean I could use two same legendary crossbows.

Blem

@Eugene yes, unless they say unique

Eugene

@Blem Unique-Equipped I see. Thank you.

@Blem when does it say Unique-Equipped? Only in some specific cases?

Blem

@Eugene all Legendary hand crossbows are unique equipped

us.battle.net/d3/en/item/hand-crossbow/#type=legendary

Eugene

@Blem NIIINE. That bad. :(

Would increase dmg quite a bit :D

Fluttershy

Morning, Bridge!

FEichinger

13:52

@fbueckert A couple youtubers have released their .22 gameplay videos now :D

RedRiderX

This article actually makes me consider getting a chromebook: Setting Up A Chromebook Development Laptop.

Fluttershy

Bridge, I have a first world problem. :(

RedRiderX

@Fluttershy Oh noes!

Fluttershy

@RedRiderX I know! It's terrible!

I want to play Beyond: Two Souls, but I have to first beat The Last of Us, and potentially GTA V. But I also wanna play Dark Souls! I dunno what to do! D:

fbueckert

@Fluttershy Easy: Play KSP.

Fluttershy

14:00

@fbueckert <_< This doesn't solve my problem!

fbueckert

@Fluttershy You said you didn't know what to do. I solved that.

Fluttershy

True enough, I suppose.

fbueckert

Ok, Kill La Kill is channeling Gurren Laggan pretty well.

Ronan Forman

@Wipqozn Can we borrow you for a second?

kalina

more like 10 secs

or @OrigamiRobot

Unionhawk

14:14

I cannot be borrowed until probably Monday; being home is severely cutting in on my Vidya Game time...

kalina

but!

it is literally 30 seconds

Unionhawk

It takes approximately 15 seconds for me to be called to do someth-- OK FINE

I need a chair. Hang on.

Yeah no, that isn't going to work. It's set to the resolution of my second monitor, and I don't have that here.

And I really don't want to get it changed.

kalina

fair enough

we just fluked it anyway

Unionhawk

So I heard

Ronan Forman

Super fluked.

Unionhawk

14:22

It wouldn't be so bad if my second monitor wasn't so much bigger than this one - and if I could see the goddamn resolution settings when it's not good.

user58869

how can i beat hesit nemingwary on hearthstone, he's just too hard, i tried killing his minions but he keeps putting taunt cards up and i just can't do it

user58869

i got him down to 1 point

user58869

i think that the way to beat him must be something to do with killing the minions

user58869

because they just build up and finish me off every time

Wipqozn

@RonanForman Do you still need me?

@Fluttershy Just play Dark Souls.

Lazers

14:45

0

Q: GTA-Online: Helicopter spawn scheme

Can someone explain to me how the helicopters in GTA Online spawn (and also airplanes). I had a session yesterday, where it would keep spawning Titans on the Sandy Shores airfield, whereas on another session it would spawn the normal small airplane. The same with the cargobob. Yesterday, everywh...

gta-online

Blem

3

user58869

@Blem death note! i love that film!

badp

@Blem This kills the teenager.

user58869

and the sequel too, the one where the guy saves the world

user58869

whats his name

user58869

14:49

its so moving

fredley

@Wipqozn @FEichinger You're just jealous youse don't have them

Blem

L?

user58869

@Blem L! L saves the world!

user58869

hmmm... according to google it's actuall L changes the world

user58869

but i remember it as him saving the world

user58869

14:51

that's what matters

user58869

L change the world

user58869

FEichinger

∞

Unionhawk

fredley

@FEichinger inf

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