The Bridge

Wipqozn

15:00

But in this case I think you could have chose a better wording. In fact, if you just left out your closing remark of "makes this a bad question" it would have gone over better.

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan I'm blunt. I do that. The information required to fix the question/answer is still there for the user to take advantage of.

FEichinger

We don't spellfix what we don't understand either.

@Sterno Spelling and formatting are readability problems, not content or answerability problems (usually, at least). Lack of effort, on the other hand, is.

Wipqozn

ACtually if you just didn't use italics I think it would have gone better. Italics are harsh.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Nothing wrong with that.

fbueckert

You each have your own methods of educating users. Mine isn't any more right or wrong than yours, and I don't think we're going to get anywhere constructive by trying to convince each other that it is.

OrigamiRobot

15:02

Some people learn by showing them what to do, not just telling.

fbueckert

It's just different.

John

Oooh, is today's argument whether to comment, edit, or both?

fbueckert

@John More or less, yeah.

John

@fbueckert Fun

Wipqozn

@John you've never seen so much fun.

FEichinger

15:03

Both is ideal, either is fine. Deal with it.

Wipqozn

Gobbles of fun.

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert The wrong part is continuing to use a certain method when it isn't working.

John

@Wipqozn I didn't think I had.

OrigamiRobot

HI @JOHN

Wipqozn

Also, I'm not sure how this turned into "edit vs comment". The whole point was do what you want, just do so in a peaceful manner.

John

15:04

HI @ORIGAMIROBOT

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot It was working. He tried to fix it. He didn't understand what needed fixing, but he tried.

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot Like I said, it depends on the user. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. You won't know which works until the user engages.

OrigamiRobot

@FEichinger I don't even know what specific case you're talking about, nor is it important to my point.

@fbueckert And if he responds poorly, disengage. Let someone else try.

fbueckert

Personally, I don't think we're going anywhere fun if we continue this line of conversation, so I respectfully ask we drop it and talk about something else.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot Which, in this case, he did.

@fbueckert I fix my question, and you're still complaining? wow. — Scootaloo 1 hour ago

OrigamiRobot

15:06

@John WE SHOULD PLAY A SUPER HOSTILE MINECRAFT MAP AGAIN THAT WAS SO FUN

Wipqozn

I think you should have just dropped it at that point.

@fbueckert did you see that video I posted in MH3U chat room?

John

@OrigamiRobot TOTALLY :D Pick one and we can start setting up

Wipqozn

in Monster Hunter 3U, 2 hours ago, by Wipqozn

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fbueckert

@Wipqozn To be fair, I deleted some comments after that. I was harsher than I usually am, due to my expectation of him knowing better by now.

Arperum

@John Need more players?

Wipqozn

15:07

@fbueckert Yeah, I noticed that.

John

@Arperum Fine by me :D It's @OrigamiRobot's server we usually play on, though

fbueckert

@Wipqozn 360p quality? Bleh.

OrigamiRobot

@Arperum What time zone are you in?

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Yeah, life sucks. It's a good video though.

Showcases the Charge Axe quite nicely.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot I'd be up for it too. Central time

Arperum

15:08

@OrigamiRobot GMT +1 or +2 switches with summer hour bullshit. CET basically.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Ooh, shiny.

Wipqozn

Also it looks like that new monster is basically a giant rhenoplas monster. Just like gigginox is a big giggi.

Ben Brocka

Levelution. That is all

John

@Arperum Europe? That might make it hard, unless you don't mind playing at around 2-3am your time :3

Arperum

CET as in Central EUropean time.

fbueckert

15:08

I've realized I need Guard+1/2 to really be effective; end-game monsters do so much chip damage without it.

Arperum

@John On a friday or a saturday i can possibly do things like that.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Yeah, you do. When lancing you either need Guard or Evasion.

You don't need both, just one .Whichver one fits your playstyle best.

Which for you I'd say is Guard +1/2

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I've gotten so used to guarding everything that that's probably my better option.

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

1

Gymnastics

Proposed Q&A site for professional and amateur gymnasts, and anyone with an interest in gymnastics.

Currently in definition.

Arperum

But now I'm going home, work's over for today. I'll be online again later.

fbueckert

15:12

@Wipqozn That looks like a bigger sword and shield.

RedRiderX

Okay, I don't mark dups often, but is this how you should do it?

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Q: Help with Animal Crossing save transfer

I am currently borrowing New Leaf from my step sister and I have now bought a copy of AC New leaf for myself.. I am NOT the mayor on her game card, when I transfer my save data from her town to my new town, would i automatically become mayor? Or will I need to start a whole new game in order to b...

animal-crossing-new-leaf

Wipqozn

@fbueckert It has two modes. Sword mode, and axe mode.

fbueckert

Which is one of my beefs with the regular SnS; the knockback is killer.

Wipqozn

Build up charge in sword mode, then use it in axe mode.

fbueckert

Nice to see Rhenoplos still charging you in the middle of your fight.

Shotgun Ninja

15:13

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment I could kind of see this taking off, actually...

GnomeSlice

@ShotgunNinja The scope would need to be pretty flexible.

Jason Berkan

@RedRiderX I'm not seeing a dup close vote.

GnomeSlice

see what I did there

OrigamiRobot

@John @SaintWacko @Arperum We need to pick a map first.

SaintWacko

@RedRiderX I'm not actually sure that's a duplicate. The answer to the other kinda implies the answer to this one, but it doesn't answer it explicitly

@OrigamiRobot I haven't done any Super Hostile, but one of my coworkers says Legendary is good

RedRiderX

15:15

@JasonBerkan Uh, I just flagged it as a dup.

GnomeSlice

For RTS Fans

fbueckert

@JasonBerkan He doesn't have the rep for a close vote.

Jason Berkan

@RedRiderX Oh. I see - you're under 3000. My bad.

GnomeSlice

I am so close but so far from 10k reps

RedRiderX

@JasonBerkan Nah it's cool, I mostly just lurk. :P

GnomeSlice

15:16

I made so much more rep lately in the past couple of months though

made like 700

Sucks that a lot of my posts get ignored. =P

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Q: How does the 'Cash For Relics' shop work?

Some of the maps have tiles with a big sign on them that reads 'cash for relics' and a passive many-eyed beast floating around that must be a shopkeeper or something. I've stood in the tiles but haven't gotten anything from him. How do you get relics for cash? Do you have to be carrying a full...

delve-deeper

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Q: What are 'Air Support Units', and what do they do?

I won my last game in atWar (for the first time!), and now I have a bunch of shiny SP to spend on some upgrades. Most of them have pretty straightforward descriptions (stealth units can't be seen on the map, for example), but there's one that doesn't really tell you what it does. Unlocks A...

atwar

RedRiderX

@SaintWacko Hmm, I guess, but the linked guide seems to give a clear answer to that sort of thing.

John

ignores the @GnomeSlice post spam

GnomeSlice

@John =[

John

:P

GnomeSlice

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Q: Are books good for anything?

Every now and then I find a book. I can pick the book up. I can carry the book around. I can even read the book! This book is called About Dwarves This appears to be lore from the game world. There was also a humourous book on the first floor that listed the top five causes of death for D...

pitman

RedRiderX

15:17

I guess it should be edited.

Wipqozn

@John Yeah, we should all downvote his posts for spamming chat for votes.

That'll learn'em

@GnomeSlice Delve Deeper is great.

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko That one is by Vechs. We played one of his before and it was fun.

Wipqozn

They really need online though.

John

@Wipqozn Just the questions, though, because, yaknow, I wouldn't want to lose my rep

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn It is, oh man. I was so pleased with it.

I wish it wasn't so buggy though.

John

15:18

@OrigamiRobot Pretty sure Vechs made the whole series

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I just wish it had online.

GnomeSlice

It crashes a lot. If you try to undo a tile placement, it will almost always crash.

And playing with a gamepad makes it crash too

John

@OrigamiRobot @Arperum @SaintWacko Maps

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn I need to get that

Is it cheap anywhere?

OrigamiRobot

@John I didn't know if there were any non-Vechs maps.

GnomeSlice

15:19

@Wipqozn That would be excellent.

@SaintWacko It's cheap everywhere.

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko Steam. It's only $5.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Does it have LAN?

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice I wonder if anyone made an online mode.

@SaintWacko Nope, nothing. Only hotseat.

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko store.steampowered.com/app/63800

Not sure.

They're working on the sequel apparently as well.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Just bought it on Desura

Wipqozn

15:20

IT was intended to a board game in vide game form.

GnomeSlice

I really wish they would fix the crash bugs though.

Wipqozn

Which is nice, but I still want online.

SaintWacko

I prefer Desura to Steam

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Yeah, that Charge Axe looks pretty darn fun.

Like a cross between SnS and the Switch Axe.

Wipqozn

@fbueckert Yeah, it does.

OrigamiRobot

15:21

@John @SaintWacko @Arperum Come here

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I wouldn't mind a weapon with a bit more mobility.

GnomeSlice

@SaintWacko Me too, honestly. The Desura client is kinda slow and shitty though

the website works beautifully though

fbueckert

I'm loving gunlance, and I'm pretty darn good with it at this point, but it's bloody slow.

SaintWacko

@GnomeSlice Yeah, I don't really use the client

I just download standalone

GnomeSlice

also you can't throttle it

Wipqozn

15:22

I've started work on an app for MH3U too. It'll let you know which is the best weapon to use on a specific monster, and which attack to part. Just choose weapon type and it will work out the numbers.

@fbueckert Could use the SNS again.

Long Sword is another option for good mobility.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn I'd have to relearn it all over again.

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Have you tried standing on the spot until end of turn?

@fbueckert You'll need to do that no matter which weapon you choose for more speed.

fbueckert

@Wipqozn Indeed.

Wipqozn

Once I get my other weapons upgraded, save the weapons that need a.lagia, I think I might start working on SNS and Switch axe again.

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn ?

Oh

the relics?

Yeah but I still can't quite figure out what it's doing

Ben Brocka

15:33

@SaintWacko It's nice to have options but nothing is remotely as useful as Steam for someone with tons of games that moves PCs every few years

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice hm I see.

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Yeah, Steam is great for that, but recently most of my gaming has been smaller indie games which I run off my flash drive

Wipqozn

From what I remember it buys the items from you, but at a lesser price than you would get from going all the way back to the king.

GnomeSlice

It seems to me that the times I've seen it work it gave out really good relics

Lazers

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Q: My heir is unfit for the throne. How can I make him aware of this fact?

I have a heir whose stats are really bad. Seeing as how my ruler is still young, I have a large chance of having another child. Is it possible to kill render him unfit for duty? Either through spy actions or a console command?

europa-universalis-4

fbueckert

15:38

@Lazers I did some pretty drastic editing to this question to increase the humor value. I hope I didn't change the intent.

Grace Note

I was too busy thinking "Didn't we get this same question for a different game, even more hilariously worded?"

Ah, here it is. Top search for heir, you didn't fail me then.

Jason Berkan

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Q: How do I kill myself?

My King of Ireland just died, but the problem is the child I had groomed for succession, my first son was murdered sometime ago, and now my second son inherited my kingdom. He is "Slow" and basically has 0 on 3 of the stats making him really useless. My Succession Laws are Primogeniture, so the ...

crusader-kings-2

Wipqozn

@GraceNote That's Paradox games for you.

Private Pansy

So on Thursday, Friday and next Monday I'll be terrorising the wildlife population of Singapore as I do my cross country driving training

Wipqozn

@PrivatePansy Try not to drive off any cliffs.

Shotgun Ninja

15:42

@GnomeSlice :|

Private Pansy

@Wipqozn We tried to do that in the simulator, but they had coded invisible walls into the damn thing

Jason Berkan

@PrivatePansy There are rural areas in Singapore?

Private Pansy

No such restrictions in Just Cause 2 though. I've been getting plenty of practise there.

@JasonBerkan There are - several large designated live firing zones are located on the far west of the island, and I believe there should still be some primary rainforest left in the central catchment area, which is where we'll be having the training

Anyway, who am I kidding. There really aren't any cliffs in Singapore. The highest point is on a hill around 420m above sea level.

Grace Note

@PrivatePansy That seems to be... high.

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote I am unsure whether to hate or love you for this.

Ullallulloo

15:53

@PrivatePansy Still a lot more than the total difference of height in Illinois.

Private Pansy

No wait, my memory's faulty. Bukit Timah Hill is only 163m high.

That is the highest point in Singapore. We have many skyscrapers that are higher.

GnomeSlice

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Ullallulloo

Our lowest point's 82m, our average is 180m, and our highest is 376.4 m, 294.4 above the lowest and 196.4 above the average.

Ronan Forman

@PrivatePansy Don't fall of one of those then.

Jason Berkan

@Ullallulloo For a minute, I thought you were describing Singapore, and I was going to respond - no, your lowest is 0m.

Private Pansy

16:00

Ullallulloo

We're like seventh for the lowest peak in the US and eighth for shortest span.

Private Pansy

We climbed up the hill to see this stupid rock once. It was wonderfully underwhelming.

Ullallulloo

@JasonBerkan Ha. :P California and Louisiana both go under that though.

GnomeSlice

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FUEL is one of the most underappreciated games of all time.

steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=92973632

You guys should all get it

It's available on Steam apparently.

As a bonus, it has the largest playable game world ever created in a game.

Arperum

@GnomeSlice Wasn't a crapton of that world just desert though?

FEichinger

16:08

@GnomeSlice That really depends on your definition of "game world" and "created".

Also "largest", because that needs a frame of reference.

GnomeSlice

@FEichinger Not according to Guinness.

kotaku.com/5265942/fuel-is-the-biggest-console-game-ever

@Arperum Some of it, but all the reviews that said the world was flat and empty are utterly full of shit

There is a desert area though, yes.

FUEL is one of my favourite games ever and it's so underappreciated and it makes me sad

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice Now, setting aside the problems I have with Guinness in general, that still depends on their definition.

GnomeSlice

> Largest playable area in a console game: The largest playable environment in a console game is 5,560 square miles (14,400 km²), and is featured in FUEL (Codemasters, 2009). The area features rivers, deserts, forests and mountains and was demonstrated at the offices of Guinness World Records, London, UK, on 20 May 2009.

In any case, you can drive for hours and hours and hours and not cross your path twice.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice Well, wouldn't something like EVE instantly blow that up since it spans light years?

GnomeSlice

RockPaperShotgun drove through each area in a single sitting following the most direct route and it took them like 8 hours.

@Ullallulloo Not sure, but most of EVE is void isn't it?

Ullallulloo

16:12

Also, that says console game, not game.

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice That's where the definition of "game world" comes into play.

Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice No idea.

Ronan Forman

But a game could have a constantly changing environment, so if it changed quickly enough you could go in circles and not see the same place twice.

FEichinger

And, yes, "console" is also a key word.

GnomeSlice

@FEichinger Oh, yeah.

Ullallulloo

16:13

Also, like Dwarf Fortress can make really, really big worlds.

Kind of Minecraft.

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman It doesn't though.

rockpapershotgun.com/2009/06/22/…

this is a cool read

> 8:40AM. Girlfriend packed into crumbling Ford Fiesta and sent off to work. Cats fed. It is time to begin.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice I never said it was, just that one that did could be 'larger' whist being physically smaller.

GnomeSlice

The game sure has its quirks and some bugs, but it's still so much fun.

Blem

GnomeSlice

Not being able to drive in the real world I find something really relaxing about using FUEL to cruise around on a motorcycle wherever I want.

Ullallulloo

16:14

Daggerfall had 188,000 sq miles.

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo That was procedurally generated or something though right?

Also can you stop arguing about it and just play FUEL because it is amazing

> 12:00PM I am falling down the side of a continent.

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice So? Definitions.

GnomeSlice

@FEichinger What are we even arguing about

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice That "largest game world ever created" is a stupid, ambiguous label.

GnomeSlice

I think it's just the one the media have been using

> The award for largest playable area in a console game was awarded to Fuel developer Asobo Studios. Guinness World Records presented the developer with a certificate to commemorate the achievement.

Huh, maybe not.

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video about the measurements and shit

to be honest I don't really care about the award

But there is literally something for everyone in the environment.

There are mountain regions, desert regions, swamps, forests, lakes, there's fucking everything

StrixVaria

16:18

@GnomeSlice Pretty sure Minecraft has the biggest world.

FEichinger

That's all nice and dandy, it's just the label that's inherently bad.

Ronan Forman

@GnomeSlice I don't see islands or plains, how am I supposed to play by blue-white deck in that?

GnomeSlice

@RonanForman There's plains, but no islands.

Lazers

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Q: Faralda isn't at her post to allow me entrance to the College of Winterhold

When I was attempting to get into the College of Winterhold, a dragon appeared while I was talking with her. She went to fight it, and ever since then, she hasn't been at the front entrance of the college. I'm on a mission where I have to get inside of the college grounds and can't get in. Ho...

skyrim

0

Q: Why can't I get a perfect town rating in Animal Crossing New Leaf?

I've been trying for a perfect town rating for a number of weeks now, and I fixed the cleanliness issues, and developing issues. Now, whenever I talk to Isabelle, she'll tell me we're so close to getting a perfect town rating. She then says the following: "The citizens also say they feel there is...

animal-crossing-new-leaf

0

Q: Mass Effect 2 Arrival DLC conflict with loaded ME1 gamesave

I purchased all the DLC for ME2 including arrival. I wanted to play a new game from a loaded ME1 Profile. However the comic came up anyway. I pressed space bar fast to get through it but I don't know what was selected in it. I don't want to play through all ME2 and find out that my choices were o...

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GnomeSlice

Although there is a sunken city in the middle of a lake and a hovercraft you can explore it with

When I get my paycheck I will buy you guys FUEL

OrigamiRobot

16:20

How will you ship it?

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Steam.

Ronan Forman

So they wasted loads of time making a world that was so big it's boring, then expect you to buy it because they won an award?

GnomeSlice

Also, the game has some of the best environmental effects I've ever seen.

@RonanForman Except it's not boring. That's what people seem to say about it.

When I first heard about FUEL I was so excited

then all the reviews were like

too big, boring

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Gas does not travel well over the internet.

GnomeSlice

So I Was like awww

But I played it and those people are full of shit

There is just so much stuff

The environment is gorgeous

@RonanForman I only brought it up because you guys were ignoring me

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A lot of the reviews are bad because if you play FUEL looking for a dedicated racing game, there's some stuff that might annoy you

like loading times. Starting a race or warping somewhere on the map makes it load, usually twice.

But if you just want a free driving experience

it will never load as you drive around

it's amazing

I mean it won't stop to load

it must be loading it in the background

Is Fuel's Steam Page in Spanish for anyone else

or whatever language that is

Unionhawk

16:26

@GnomeSlice No.

GnomeSlice

weird

Unionhawk

That's English for me

GnomeSlice

the buy button is some other language

the content is all English though

> Comprar FUEL™

Unionhawk

@GnomeSlice That's spanish, but mine says "Buy"

GnomeSlice

weird

Unionhawk

16:28

So, I don't know. Maybe it thinks you're in Mexico now somehow.

GnomeSlice

all the shit in the righthand sidebar is spanish too

fbueckert

@Lazers @Animal Crossing players: How complicated is it to achieve the perfect town rating? Do we need questions focusing on separate aspects of it?

FEichinger

@GnomeSlice You clicked a link with a region modifier.

GnomeSlice

I googled it

And I pasted it in here

Unionhawk

@GnomeSlice Try purging the cache with Ctrl+F5, etc

FEichinger

16:30

@GnomeSlice Yes, and at some point before that you clicked a link with a region modifier. Try this

GnomeSlice

Nope

weird

not a big deal

Oh hey Sir, You Are Being Hunted is on Steam early access now.

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: Assigning a rare drop chance to object in simple Actionscript 3.0 game

I am pretty new to all this Flash CS6 Action script 3.0 stuff and I was hoping to find out some different ways to apply a rare drop chance on an movie clip array for AS3. I have a random chance code that works pretty well for enemies, as they fall more often, however I'd like hearts to fall rarel...

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somequixotic

don't know if anyone here is a visual novel fan but having previously played Analogue: A Hate Story, I am loving Hate Plus already :D it came out yesterday!

Ullallulloo

It still annoys me that the accepted answer here just says that Valve is lying without any proof.

fredley

16:46

GnomeSlice

@fredley hah

fredley

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GnomeSlice

@fredley Oh man, I'm at work, why do you do this

fredley

@GnomeSlice To make your brain turn to jelly also?

Share the ~~love~~ insanity

GnomeSlice

actually that wasn't too bad

alexanderpas

16:50

Ullallulloo

But for real, that wrong answer being accepted with everything at 0 annoys me.

GnomeSlice

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@Ullallulloo It's wrong?

fredley

Sheep are hilarious

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Ullallulloo

@GnomeSlice If it's right, then the whole thing is just a blatant lie. I've played tons of games without seeing that, but he says that he saw a four-man premade team? I never even see those in the normal queue.

GnomeSlice

I don't know enough about it to really comment on the matter, but if it bugs you you could leave a comment on it?

Ullallulloo

16:55

I would say the four guys were probably just messing with him. Then another guy says he guesses so because he sees people with the same tag in a game sometime.

@GnomeSlice I did, and it has two upvotes, but no one else bothered to vote on the answers.

GnomeSlice

That's unfortunate. =[

tugs

Is it possible to solve this with science?

GnomeSlice

@Ullallulloo Give me some upvotes to make yourself feel better.

Ullallulloo

@tugs Not really. If you actually could see what he claims happen, then you could prove it, but it's impossible to disprove.

A match ID would likely disprove his claim.

Maybe I could ask a dev.

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