The Bridge

spyder

03:00

Morning

fbueckert

@spyder You missed all the fun!

spyder

@fbueckert yawn Wat?

fbueckert

@spyder Nope. Drama over. You missed it.

Sterno

Drama meter fully recharged.

Time for bed.

spyder

@fbueckert You can announce a short summary?

fbueckert

03:05

@spyder That's no fun! :P

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Q: When does a question "support piracy and pirated games"?

There's been a lot of talk recently about what it means to support piracy and pirated games. A very recent example is this question, in which a user asks a question that turns out to be a valid problem for a legitimate copy of the game, but in which he admitted in the comments that he's using a...

There's the aftermath.

user20683

@spyder There were three full sets of drama: Piracy, GraceNote's gender and my name change (again)

user20683

anyway, time for me to go to bed I think

spyder

@Weston.h it's began with Sterno's question?

user20683

@spyder something like that

user20683

anyway, good night

spyder

03:08

@Weston.h 'night

Raven Dreamer

@OrigamiRobot Because we think the same things? Or because I'm ruggedly handsome, and you're a winsome young lass ready to be swept off her feet and taken on an adventure?

OrigamiRobot

@RavenDreamer Can it be both?

Raven Dreamer

@OrigamiRobot Hop on my motorcycle, and we'll ride off into the sunset.

OrigamiRobot

swoon

Raven Dreamer

Gnight.

spugsley

03:13

omg wtf is going on in here?

3

Yawus

@spugsley it's the bridge, what do you think is going on in here?

LessPop_MoreFizz

The Bus Is Late T Shirts

fbueckert

03:40

The revolver satellite launcher is almost complete.

Fistosaur

@fbueckert Initiating Fisting sequence

IN 5.....4......3......2......1....

We have Fistoff!

fbueckert

That's at least mildly flaggable, dude.

spyder

Oh, nice little model:

I want to buy one :)

"Zvezda" is cheap and pretty good in 1/72

OrigamiRobot

03:58

@Retrosaur, to answer your question, 17% lower than market price is not "dirt cheap" by any means.

Selling for $2 is a great price when you got it for free.

Lazers

0

Q: Can't start Payday 2 says (app already running)

Every time I try to open the app it says that the app is already running.

payday-2

fbueckert

04:18

@Strix You will like the rocket named after you.

@Lazers 3van, 3ventic. Sounds awfully similar...

Fistosaur

It's probably just me, but everything Young Guilo's been doing is

150

Q: Question title that doesn't describe the problem

Pre Edit 4: Pointing out that thread's popularity is a direct result of programming community interest in said subject, and that someone likely stands to become rich and/or famous by solving the problem none of the answers, save my own, came even close to resolving. Long salutation desc...

discussion fun meta inappropriate-tag

Gaming Topics From Outside

05:50

0

Q: Resume Mobage Login Screen in android

I am using Mobage Gaming API. And I want to resume my Mobage Login screen. I am using following code: @Override public void onResume() { super.onResume(); if (Mobage.isInitialized()) { Mobage.getInstance().onResume(); Log.d("MobageResume", "MobageResu...

java android eclipse gaming social-gaming

Lazers

06:59

-2

Q: diablo 3 demon hunter build

Is there any efficient build for Demon Hunter to farm Gold? I got this diablo 3 demon hunter build to farm Demonic essence but not so good to get the power leveling.

diablo

Arperum

07:21

@Lazers spam! kill it with flags!

5pike

@Arperum Way ahead of you

Also: Morning.

Arperum

@5pike Good morning!

5pike

@Arperum I'm not so sure about the "good" part.

Arperum

@5pike Bad morning?

5pike

Yeah - couldn't really sleep to well.

Arperum

07:23

Also: more spam from the same spambot as above: gaming.stackexchange.com/a/128227/39891

5pike

@Arperum already flagged and downvoted

I told you, I was ahead ;-)

Well, as soon as the coffee kicks in, things get better

Arperum

@5pike There should be more people waking up here, so I hope this gets those posts taking down a little bit faster :)

Kevin van der Velden

Semi-awake here, and flagged :)

5pike

Very good

Oh boy, the Payday 2 secret is thrilling.

Blem

morning people

5pike

07:35

Morning

spyder

@Blem hi

Blem

so did you have a good weekend?

Lazers

0

Q: FPS in Starcraft 2

I am trying to play with the optimal settings regarding game performance. But yet again, I still enjoy playing with some great graphical settings. To balance this out, I would love to know; Are there any way that I can see my FPS in-game? Or track the FPS after a game? (EDIT: I often use th...

starcraft-2

spyder

@Blem yep! And hail size of a ping-pong ball >_<

Blem

:/

spyder

07:43

@Blem some cars lost their windshields...

Arperum

@Blem Weekend was short. Two days is not enough.

spyder

...But I do not have a car :D

Blem

I had 3 days

5pike

@Arperum 2 days never is enough

@Blem DAMN YOU !!!!

spyder

2 days, 3 days... Even a week never enough

Kevin van der Velden

07:50

@spyder a week of weekend every week seems about right, though for safetys sake I'd say we standardize at 8 days of weekend per week.

5pike

Mhh... a 3 day weekend would be nice. As it's now - Friday is pretty much over, because of work, Saturday - do whatever, Sunday - think of work on Monday.

spyder

Two days in a week are not so much to deal with bunch of unfinished models :(

spyder

08:22

Still unfinished :(

5pike

Nice

spyder

@5pike do you know what is this?

5pike

Looks like a tank ;-P

Is it an existing model?

Or just made-up?

spyder

@5pike this is soviet heavy tank prototype Object-260 aka IS-7. Very powerful but very heavy (comparison with other soviet tanks), about 68t. USSR never used tanks with weight more than 50t.

One still remain, you can see it in Kubinka Tank Museum.

5pike

08:44

Googling it, I found many "world of tanks" related stuff.

Is it in this game?

spyder

@5pike yep. Tier 10 heavy tank.

5pike

09:23

Mhh... this has to be the longest support-chat I ever had. 2 hours now and no end in sight.

spyder

tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TooAwesomeToUse

How familiar...

5pike

@spyder You know what's an easy fix for that? Make the heals a % value and not a fixed number.

Like in the "Tales of .." series

Never had a problem with "I'll use it for that special boss"

spyder

@5pike Fallout 2. Limited number of cartridges for Gauss Rifle

5pike

09:42

@spyder Peculiar thing - happens always in FF games

Arperum

10:07

@5pike Did it end already or is it still going strong?

5pike

@Arperum Already ended.

Lasted 2 hours 20 minutes

Wasn't annoying, just very long

Arperum

@5pike And were you succesfull in helping?

5pike

@Arperum Sadly not, but wasn't our fault.

Arperum

@5pike At least you narrowed the problem somewhat.

Martin Sojka

"Not our fault" is the best kind of problem narrowing.

5pike

10:18

Yeah - client wanted to set-up email on his smartphone

Server was there, info was correct, his internet was working, so it had to be his phone.

Arperum

I think my record for a support call is 50 minutes waiting until they pick up the phone, and then 40-50 minutes of trying to convince the other person that I was not a retard and that they had to fix it on their end. Wich failed.

5pike

@Arperum Ouch.

Arperum

I never succeeded in reaching them twice on a single day, I think they blocked my calls for the remainder of the day afterwards.

5pike

@Arperum "Ugh, not that guy again. He wants to help us, but f**k that. I rather stay angry the whole day"

Arperum

@5pike It took them three weeks of daily calls until finally someone manned up enough to tell me that they could give me the service they promised.

@5pike I was the client, and my ISP was being stupid. (1Mbps is worthless if you pay for 30Mbps)

5pike

10:23

@Arperum Ah yeah, you mentioned that you had problems with your ISP

And I know that they can be dicks and cheats

I'm lucky that I found a good ISP with good support.

Arperum

@5pike Hey, they lost a client, I got a better service elsewhere. (Although I should start calling this ISP about the random downtime I'm having every friday afternoon)

5pike

I always wonder why in many RPGs MP regenerating stuff is called ether.

Makes it seem that every mage is a drug-addict.

Martin Sojka

... only if you both have no idea about chemistry and don't realise they actually mean "æther".

5pike

"æther or ether, is the material that fills the region of the universe above the terrestrial sphere."

So, you are consuming pieces of the universe....

Nice

Arperum

@5pike So mages are basically high on space?

5pike

10:37

Yes, I know that it also stands for other things

In the Pokemon series, it is Ether, not æther

Animal abuse

Non-Standard Game Over very interesting

Martin Sojka

11:00

Wait, Pokémon has MP?

5pike

Not MP, I think it's called AP

Action Points or something

Martin Sojka

I could only find "PP" on the Pokémon Wiki (Power Points).

5pike

Mhh... could be that AP was used in the German translation...

Haven't played it in a long time

spyder

Hmm... Where is my foil hat? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numbers_station

5pike

@spyder Pretty interesting

Martin Sojka

11:07

Maybe. Anyway, the stuff to gurgle down for it to go back up is called "ピーピーエイド " ("PP Aid", +10 PP to one), "ピーピーエイダー " ("PP Aider", +10 PP to all), "ピーピーマックス " ("PP Max", full PP for one) and "ピーピーリカバー " ("PP Recover", full PP for all).

... at least if I understand the Moonspeak on the wiki correctly.

Arperum

bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ether

searching for "pokemon ether" turned up that.

Martin Sojka

@Arperum Game translations are shoddy and full of errors, thus I looked up the original to be sure.

Arperum

@MartinSojka I kind of don't speak nor read the original.

Martin Sojka

The names are in Katakana anyway, that's easy and quick to learn; there are online translation tools for the reminder. :)

spyder

[16:35] xxx: we watched them
[16:35] xxx: also
[16:36] xxx: no, no any "also"
[16:36] spyder: xxx: secrets?
[16:36] xxx: close enough
[16:36] xxx: in general, spyder, these transmitters are used actively
[16:37] xxx: what exactly transmit - we do not know

Gaming Topics From Outside

11:33

0

Q: Matching players in turn-based multiplayer game

I'm working on a turn-based multiplayer game for iOS using Cocos2D and trying to come up with the best way to match players. I'm using Stackmob as my backend. I figured that whenever a player wants to play against a random opponent , I'll first check if there are any open games that require a se...

ios cocos2d-iphone multiplayer gaming stackmob

spyder

For the Emperor!

5pike

@spyder Are these yours?

Time for a flag

spyder

@5pike Unfortunately, no. But I have figures like this, I can try to convert it

Arperum

@5pike Pretty random thing that.

5pike

@Arperum Some kid got bored, I guess.

Arperum

11:40

@5pike I don't know what the times for school holidays are in other countries, but Belgium is still going until the end of august. So it's very possible.

5pike

@Arperum Austria is the same

Martin Sojka

School vacations just ended last week here. It's easy to notice too, I lost over an hour in car accident induced traffic jams on both days of this week so far.

OrigamiRobot

@spyder FUN FOR THE FUN GOD

Arperum

I'm leaving 10-15 minutes later for work then during school.

For a trip that is 30-35 minutes during the holidays.

spyder

@OrigamiRobot We march for Macragge! And we shall know no fear!

Private Pansy

11:46

@StrixVaria lol

fredley

►

5pike

@fredley Saw it on kotaku - freaking amazing

Lazers

0

Q: How can I use the Steam app to download a game I already own?

On the few occasions where I have bought a game on Steam from my mobile phone, the app gave me the option to start downloading and installing the game on my desktop. What I don't see, however, is any way to start downloading a game that I previously bought (in this case, a preorder for Saints Row...

steam

Blem

12:28

I am so ready to get off work

FEichinger

Microsoft details long-awaited Xbox One self-publishing plans

EA offering money back guarantee for Origin purchases

Ben Brocka

Hell officially frozen over

fbueckert

@FEichinger The cynical part of me says they'd never have launched this along with SimCity.

Private Pansy

I'm not sure how Steam's complete lack of returns isn't breaking some laws in some countries

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Considering they were actively and vociferously refusing refunds at the time, yeah

Private Pansy

12:38

Even Google Play allows that, even if it's completely stupid 15 minutes

skovacs1

What's the policy on ARG apps? Are they considered games and therefore able to have questions asked of them? Where's the line drawn on these sorts of things?

Ben Brocka

The 24 hour period they used to have was much better

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Well, technically in a lot of countries there is no requirement to allow a refund after a product is used (which, more often than not, is already the case when breaking the seal). That said, Steam does offer ways to get a refund, if certain requirements are met.

Said requirements just cover their asses from stupid people who bought the game without doing any research whatsoever and then whine that the game is crap. Well, tough break.

Ben Brocka

@skovacs1 I would say it depends on the gaminess of it. Ingress is yes, Layer not as much

Private Pansy

@FEichinger You pretty much have to get customer support personally, who will deal with it on a case by case basis. Not really a return policy

Arperum

12:40

@FEichinger EA is doing all kind of non-EA things lately.

FEichinger

@fbueckert I haven't read it, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was (going to be) a clause about pre-orders and the like not being covered.

Arperum

The origin bundle doesn't keep a single cent for EA, and everything to some charity of choice.

GnomeSlice

►

^ New Groupees Bundle Coming Soonish

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Why, yes, never said it was a policy. Just ways to get one.

Arperum

@GnomeSlice SOONISH IS NOT A TIME!

skovacs1

12:42

@BenBrocka Okay. I don't know either of those so I'll list similar examples. There was that mass effect tie-in app where you would conquer spots for war assets, and the Darksiders 2 tie-in app where you would "collect souls" - essentially the gaminess of it amounts largely to tapping on a geo-located spot semi-strategically with some kind of timeout and resource management.

Lazers

0

Q: How do I obtain the Fishcake?

As the title states, how do I obtain the fishcake? is it still obtainable or will I have to trade for it?

team-fortress-2 tf2-heavy

1

Q: What are the chances of a spy stealing your cities' information?

I understand that in the espionage tab of the game, there are stars next to the your cities and that they refer to the potential that each city has. However, I have more cities with 5-star potential than the number of spies I have (I have 4 spies by the way). Thus, I would like to know how to cal...

civilization-5 civ-5-gods-and-kings

Private Pansy

> eligible for a refund if we receive your request within the earlier of: (i) seven (7) days from the date of purchase, (ii) seven (7) days from the game’s release date if you pre-ordered/pre-purchased or (iii) twenty-four (24) hours after the first time the game is launched or run.

GnomeSlice

I saw Ittle Dew and Death Rally in that video.

Private Pansy

(emphasis mine)

GnomeSlice

Dammit. Guess I'm getting it.

Arperum

12:44

It's 2:45PM bridge waking up again.

OrigamiRobot

@PrivatePansy ARGAJERBVIAERBCERC

FEichinger

@PrivatePansy Colour me surprised.

Ben Brocka

@skovacs1 That mass effect thing wasn't really ARG was it? More like a mini-game

skovacs1

@BenBrocka true, but the resource management and general mechanics of it seems to share similarities to the one I'm looking at right now which is an ARG.

Ben Brocka

@FEichinger I don't get this "MS sets the price but you pick the price you "sell" it to them at" thing. Do devs get a 70/30 split of the final retail price or the "price" they give microsoft?

OrigamiRobot

12:45

Mar 13 at 15:23, by OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert Every time someone quotes a wiki page and says "emphasis mine" I die a little inside.

replace "wiki page" with "TOS" or w/e that is

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot I was actually going to try and pre-empt you on this.

Wipqozn

Emphasis mine:

> Every time someone quotes a wiki page and says "emphasis mine" I die a little inside.

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn That is actually a valid use so I don't care.

GnomeSlice

ringrunner.net

Blem

@OrigamiRobot en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Random

@OrigamiRobot emphasis mine

FEichinger

12:49

@BenBrocka I have no idea, it might as well mean that Microsoft gets to determine their own cut completely on their own.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Probably more like an actual retail store.

You "sell" it to Microsoft for a certain dollar amount per copy.

And they can sell it for whatever price they feel like.

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX indiegamestand.com/forum/…

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice Hey, good for them.

How many did they sell?

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX It hasn't been featured yet, but that's a post from the dev on my suggestion thread. So it sounds like he's interested in getting it on IGS.

Which means it may be featured at some point in the future.

Sterno

@PrivatePansy So if you preorder 8 days early, and the delivered game doesn't work or whatever, it sounds like you're screwed.

FEichinger

12:55

@fbueckert That does very much open the gate to Microsoft price bullying, though. "I'm sorry, but we can only sell it for 60 bucks, if you want us to pay more than 20 for that." Which is a fine line with PR, but on the console Indie market? That could actually work. :/

Private Pansy

@Sterno I believe it's 7 days from the launch date

Arperum

@Sterno No. You'll still have 7 days after the launch date.

skovacs1

Yes? No? Anybody?

Sterno

I'm confused why. Doesn't it say the earlier of those dates? Wouldn't the earliest date be the one that's 7 days after your preorder (and thus, your "purchase")?

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