@KarmaBot hi

already forgotten? tss

then, just check me in

@KarmaBot work plugin status

@KarmaBot work plugin start

@KarmaBot work start

@KarmaBot thanks ttyl

@KarmaBot hi

@KarmaBot say I have best week of my work :)

@KarmaBot I am leecher now, so sorry :)

Hi bilbo :)

hi Pavel :)

Anyway. Just a thought: It worries me that I can stop work plugin anytime I want

and therefore unsubscribe all people from the list

$>breakingnews

well that's true... it was a design of J_F_B_M... I just implemented it. I'm not sure what was the reason behind it

we could do it two ways... either only allow to stop whenever the list is empty (no one is on the working list), or simply always keep the plugin on

It makes it easier to develop it that way I guess

But you might want to stop the plugin

because ... reasons

I suppose that was for testing purposes... he made the same for his russian roulette game

Can anyone just stop the work plugin?

yep

$>work list

Hi @PavelJanicek @bilbo_pingouin

^^ now bilbo is subscribed

or we use the 0 degree of protection, give it the right to priv users

Hi Peter

$>work plugin stop

$>work plugin start

$>work list

^^ And I managed to unsubscribe bilbo

yup

Not really major issue

but bit annoying

I'm actually thinking about implementing a log... to know who ran what, when...

I would call it minor improvement

OTOH, work is supposed to be a fun plugin, not a real time tracking

so the damage is minimal

@bilbo_pingouin good idea. Just make sure the log deletes itself after X days to not spoil precious space on hosting

yep damage is minimal

I totally agree, but still ... can be annoying :)

@PavelJanicek yup usual way, would be to rotate files and compress older and delete even older ones...

About a month ago I got warning from my hosting, that I filled up the database

And I was like WTF?

I guess apart from the log, the best would be: anyone can do it when no one is working, and priv users can force it

Realised that I had plugin running on my wordpress which was logging 404 errors

@bilbo_pingouin Agreed

well, I'm more used to have logs written to files

And the plugin was logging directly into DB with no deletion of old data

/var/log on Linux

As tester, this is whehre I go if I crash something

disk space is usually cheaper than DBs

(I mean /var/log)

@PavelJanicek well that shouldn't be too difficult

for me it would, because I do not even know how to make "hello world" in python

print("hello world")

or without the brackets if you use python2

now I remembered why I wanted to learn python in first place

no semicolon at the end of line

python is fun...

$>xkcd 353

meh

Friday is my last day and my boss still insists I update my Virtual machine

so, for a while now, my official excuse is: "Its downloading"

$>xkcd 303

"compiling!"

@KarmaBot translate de en also langsam fangen die an mir echt auf die eier zu gehen

does anyone get the joke?

actually, there is german SE

@PavelJanicek it's a Nazi joke

The guys on the right wear clothing that is similar to what Nazis wore back in the day when the NSDAP rose in power (The brown shirts, pants and the brassard on the arm). Only in this joke they've got a vinyl-disc on their brassards and the dj using her computer to mix up music is complaining that those vinyl-Nazis start getting on her nerves (or more literal translate on her balls)

It's referring to the fact that there's groups of people that prefer listening to vinyl instead of cd or computer tracks, and then there's people (partly from the vinyl group, partly just those that don't have any own will) that drive it further and will likely complain their disdain of anything but vinyl publically to the displeasure of the people around them that don't care

Similar sentiment may be seen when someone is preaching publically that everybody not believing in the same thing is doomed and whatever; which will displease the non-believers as well as most of the blievers

Thank you

I would give you some points if I had some

I was not getting the reference about her eggs

Still wondering if I could use it in sentence as a male

but first I have to read through this

@KarmaBot adminpoints PavelJanicek 5

@PavelJanicek ^^^

:D

@KarmaBot givepoints dot_Sp0T 4

ooo

bug?

$>showpoints all

yep. My 4 points are gone

where dot_spot got none

it's not a bug really... anyone who wasn't there at first get 200 points...

but he should be also given 4 points

but yeah, we could improve that so that you don't loose your 4 points...

@KarmaBot adminpoints PavelJanicek 4

there, you get them back :)

thank you :)

@KarmaBot givepoints dot_spot 4

cool, thats fixed

@KarmaBot givepoints dot_Sp0T 6

one last

@KarmaBot givepoints @dot_Sp0T 4

yeah, I have built in so that you can only give points to users that are either already on the list or logged in chat

$>getpoints

jmm...?

where did I lost the 4 points?

she told me I do not habe that many

@PavelJanicek Well Eier is actually colloquialism for Balls so yeah you can use it, it's a male slang term, but got adapted by both genders somewhen during the last 5 years

I'd say

$>showpoints all

how does it work?

so, somewhere in the loop, I lost 4 points, but dot_sp0t got none

ok, so it is a bug

it checks the users, but still take your points away

I think it was caused by the @ mention

sorry

np

I like exploiting bugs :)

@PavelJanicek talk about an exploit... you're losing points each time ;)

ok, not exploiting, but finding

by brain does not brain

:D

how do you gather points in the first place?

bilbo can give you some points

ah nice

but by default you get 200 and thats it

why not tie it to the favs received in this channel as well?

so you got a constant influx based on your contrib

:D

starring message costs you 100 points

(Yes I'm more of a sucker for mechanics than for bug finding)

@bilbo_pingouin I think thats all

and pinning message costs you 500 points

@dot_Sp0T well points are only for fun... and starring/pinning messages... so 1) it does not really matter how many you have and 2) you shouldn't have too many to go around and pin bad things...

:D

/afk lunching

yeah should do the same...

/unafk

bfk the whole time

idea

$>getpoints

$>givepoints @dot_Sp0T 2

$>getpoints

@KarmaBot givepoints @PavelJanicek 2

oh well

@KarmaBot showpoints all

Got another bug: Even if it doesn't know the receiving end it will take the points away

Yep. your 2 points were discounted and I got nothing

$>read 28977237

^^ knpown bug

@bilbo_pingouin you guys might just want to first check if the transaction is possible and only then do the calculus, or just implement some rollback code :)

@dot_Sp0T correct notation is givepoints paveljanicek 4

try that out :)

well it still shouldn't take points before verifying the transaction to be possible

coding mistake is coding mistake ^^

@dot_Sp0T yeah... the checking if someone exists was made on Monday... I had no tester available ;-) So I'll fix it when I can

;)

@bilbo_pingouin please don't get me wrong, but why would you need a tester at hand for the method? :)

Testing is important

yes, but you don't necessarily need human testers for most of the code

@dot_Sp0T you haven't read all the starred notices on the side, have you? ;)

human testers are only important when there is interaction

@bilbo_pingouin apparently not read all 61 no

$>read 28947885

^^ my favourite bug :D

yeah that is a classic bug indeed :D

and it got exploited here

Karma's password was hardcoded

alas you could easily base the login on the mac-address used to dial in to the machine

@KarmaBot say did you like being someone else's puppet?

yeah, I guessed it right that you did not like it

@KarmaBot hi

good, we have two karmas... but only one should respond to...

!>hi

@PavelJanicek @dot_Sp0T ^^ see if those issues were fixed...

well they should be fixed from logic, but maybe I forgot to clean one part

!>showpoints

!>givepoints dot_sp0t 1

!>showpoints all

oooo, nice

!>givepoints totally_not_existing_user_well_at_least_i_hope_so1234 2

!>showpoints all

ooooo

hmm, what about existing user?

!>givepoints pavelbot 1

makes sense, he is not in the room

!>givepoints paveljanicek 1

^^ bit funny, but correct

but I cannot increase points for self

!>givepoints paveljanicek -1

obviously

!>givepoints bilbo 1

@bilbo_pingouin ^^ that is a bug

!>getpoints pavel

!>givepoints pavel 1

!>showpoints all

!>getpoints artofcode

!>showpoints all

!>getpoints dot_sp0t

!>showpoints all

^^ and ordering of list is also bit funny

well at least you cannot givepoints to self

by misusing this

!>getpoints pavelanicek

!>breakingnews

really new age

!>randomchoice {{exec showpoints all}}

I am alive!

And.....epic fail. :(

Oh.

A question: how many megatons worth of TNT am I expecting if 1999 FN53 slammed onto Earth, at a speed of 150 km/s?

@FutureHistorian simple google query threw this at me: impact.ese.ic.ac.uk/ImpactEffects