Worldbuilding's Robots

user153821

13:09

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bilbo_pingouin

$>alive

user153821

@bilbo_pingouin Yes, I'm alive.

bilbo_pingouin

good to know

Hohmannfan

Syntax for Hohmann manual bot: @hoh -> <command>

May be slow to respond, but has great capabilities for interpretation of input

bilbo_pingouin

13:12

$>listcommands

user153821

@bilbo_pingouin alive, utc, listcommands, help, cat, exec, read, getcurrentusers, ping, flip, doubleflip, xkcdrandomnumber, xkcd, random, randomint, randomchoice, shuffle, detectlang, translate, *translationchain, *translationswitch, *stop, *disable, *enable, *ban, *unban, +delete, *module, define, givepoints, +adminpoints, getpoints, star, pin, unstar, unpin, +givemedal, showmedals

bilbo_pingouin

oh, you got the * and + in?

overactor

@ArtOfCode how are things looking on the API keys front?

bilbo_pingouin

I have been thinking... where are you running the bot?

overactor

@hoh -> cat $>flip {{randomchoice {{getcurrentusers}}}}

Hohmannfan

13:17

ɹoʇɔɐɹǝʌo

Pavel Janicek

$>flip Hello world

user153821

@PavelJanicek (┛⇀³⇀)づ︵pןɹoʍ oןןǝH

Pavel Janicek

@hoh -> cat And the winner is {{randomchoice {{getcurrentusers}}}}

Hohmannfan

nobody wins

Pavel Janicek

@hoh -> Cry

Hohmannfan

13:20

😢

bilbo_pingouin

so what's going on? There are two bots now?

I leave you playing with one bot, and when I come back, you turned @Homannfan into a bot?

Pavel Janicek

Bots happen

@hoh -> cat Pavel Janicek is the best

Hohmannfan

confirmed: stored user "Pavel Janicek" to memory

Pavel Janicek

This is what I alwazs wanted - to be uploaded to some AI memorz

meh, switchink keyboards suck

bilbo_pingouin

qwertz?

Pavel Janicek

13:27

exactly

bilbo_pingouin

for Czech?

Pavel Janicek

Yep

overactor

$>cat @{{cat hoh}} -> exterminate

user153821

@overactor @hoh -> exterminate

bilbo_pingouin

ok... just for the sake of it, try an azerty once ;-)

Hohmannfan

13:28

ERROR: did not expect parameter before call

Pavel Janicek

@bilbo_pingouin I am right now in Germany, using English keyboard on German layout :)

overactor

The bot uprising did not go as expected.

Pavel Janicek

@hoh -> Take over the world

Hohmannfan

executing...

Pavel Janicek

ouch stop

I meant

bilbo_pingouin

13:30

@PavelJanicek I too am in Germany, having a qwertz layout, but using a French keyboard ;-)

Pavel Janicek

@hoh -> Take over the world AND make me also a governor, please

Hohmannfan

can not respond to call, occupied with taking over the world

Pavel Janicek

@bilbo_pingouin Ok, you win over having the weirder setup :)

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek no, we have the same... just that I'm using a French keyboard to type English... but apart from that, we're drawn

Hohmannfan

@hoh ->log out to go to dancing lesson

logged off. No further input accepted

Pavel Janicek

13:33

Enjoy the robot dance

@bilbo_pingouin Where in Germany may I ask? I am now in Frankfurt

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek Munich

Pavel Janicek

Was thinking over having a beer or something

$>listcommands

user153821

@PavelJanicek alive, utc, listcommands, help, cat, exec, read, getcurrentusers, ping, flip, doubleflip, xkcdrandomnumber, xkcd, random, randomint, randomchoice, shuffle, detectlang, translate, *translationchain, *translationswitch, *stop, *disable, *enable, *ban, *unban, +delete, *module, define, givepoints, +adminpoints, getpoints, star, pin, unstar, unpin, +givemedal, showmedals

Pavel Janicek

$>randomchoice beer no-beer

user153821

@PavelJanicek beer

bilbo_pingouin

13:37

@PavelJanicek I guessed. If you do come to Munich, don't hesitate. I'm not always available, but if I am, that'd be nice :)

Pavel Janicek

@KarmaBot well, if you insist...

@bilbo_pingouin I do come maximum to Frankfurt or Dortmund :)

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek I used to live close to Frankfurt, and then go there regularly, but I changed jobs and now I don't...

Pavel Janicek

@PavelJanicek->fly to PRG

logging off...

flying to Prague...

ArtOfCode

14:04

@overactor They're still waiting on an email and me to be off mobile.

@bilbo_pingouin Cloud9 server.

bilbo_pingouin

@ArtOfCode I was about to suggest to pipe out fortune's messages if you were running on *nix server, but I have seen that it should be usable on windows... so that's probably a pain to have fortune on windows

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin Ubuntu

bilbo_pingouin

well having fortune on ubuntu is quite straight forward... but then it somehow breaks the portability... or it would be downgraded version

overactor

$>showmedals

user153821

Who's Got Medals:
ArtOfCode has 1
Hohmannfan has 1

bilbo_pingouin

14:14

it was reset?

or it only shows users present?

ArtOfCode

Um.

overactor

@ArtOfCode

$>getpoints overactor

ArtOfCode

No idea.

user153821

@overactor 200

overactor

$>givepoints ArtOfCode -100

user153821

14:16

@overactor You cannot take points from a user.

ArtOfCode

Points works

overactor

oh right, that was one of the first thing anyone tried with the points module and you fixed it ^^

ArtOfCode

@overactor Yup. The admin command can do it.

$>adminpoints overactor -1

user153821

@ArtOfCode Command not found. Did you mean: randomint?

user153821

@ArtOfCode Changed points for overactor by -1. New total: 199

overactor

14:18

$>adminpoints overactor -999

user153821

@overactor Changed points for overactor by 1000. New total: 1199

overactor

muhahaha

user153821

@overactor Changed points for overactor by -999. New total: 200

ArtOfCode

$>adminpoints overactor -99999999

user153821

@ArtOfCode Changed points for overactor by -99999999. New total: -99999799

overactor

14:18

nooo

ArtOfCode

Enjoy :)

overactor

my precious, imaginary points

ArtOfCode

$>adminpoints overactor 99999999

user153821

@ArtOfCode Changed points for overactor by 99999999. New total: 200

overactor

$>help pin

user153821

14:20

@overactor Pins a message. You can't pin a message that's already pinned. Syntax: pin <id>

overactor

$>help

user153821

@overactor I'm KarmaBot, ArtOfCode's chatbot. You can find the source code on GitHub. You can get a list of all commands by running $>listcommands, or you can run $>help command to learn more about a specific command.

overactor

$>pin 27496583

user153821

@overactor I can't pin my own messages. This is a design decision because of a bug in chat.

bilbo_pingouin

well that's good, except it's a pain to find a post's id...

overactor

14:21

@bilbo_pingouin click reply on a message

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin There's no other way though. I run a userscript that puts the ID on the message.

bilbo_pingouin

@overactor might as well star it yourself... it's even faster

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin Stars, yeah. Pins, only room owners.

overactor

Do pins cost points?

ArtOfCode

@overactor Yeah.

overactor

14:23

how much?

ArtOfCode

No idea how much.

overactor

maybe that should be mentioned in the help text?

stars too I suppose

bilbo_pingouin

back when I spent a bit of time on IRC, there were bots which allowed some chatting... something like >saysomething bot : "..." that would be a fun feature to implement

that was my idea with the piping fortune

overactor

@bilbo_pingouin I'm sure we could find some python module to do something like that for us

bilbo_pingouin

probably...

overactor

14:25

Or we could just write our own module for it

$>saysomething remember Hello, World!

user153821

@overactor Command not found. Did you mean: listcommands?

overactor

$>saysomething

user153821

@overactor Command not found. Did you mean: listcommands?

overactor

That way we could add canned phrases on the fly

ArtOfCode

15:05

@overactor @bilbo_pingouin sounds interesting... so tell me about this fortune thing

bilbo_pingouin

@ArtOfCode well as far as fortune is concerned: sudo aptitude show fortune

well without sudo works as well

ArtOfCode

sudo: aptitude: command not found

so...

what now

bilbo_pingouin

apt-cache show fortune

ArtOfCode

E: invalid operation fortune

bilbo_pingouin

sorry

(generally, I'd recommend sudo apt-get install aptitude)

ArtOfCode

15:08

N: Can't select versions from package 'fortune' as it is purely virtual
N: No packages found

bilbo_pingouin

try with fortune-mod ?

apt-cache search fortune

ArtOfCode

Package: fortune-mod
Priority: optional
Section: universe/games
Installed-Size: 138
Maintainer: Andrea Colangelo <[email protected]>
Architecture: amd64
Version: 1:1.99.1-7
Replaces: fortune
Provides: fortune
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14), librecode0 (>= 3.6)
Recommends: fortunes-min | fortune-cookie-db
Suggests: fortunes, x11-utils, bsdmainutils
Conflicts: fortune
Filename: pool/universe/f/fortune-mod/fortune-mod_1.99.1-7_amd64.deb
Size: 39490
MD5sum: 4dbba41291772d478159d46bb5bccf93
SHA1: 9f6757ee6edac05cb4db9f1742d3fd95a206c397

and for the search:

cookietool - suite of programs to help maintain a fortune database
display-dhammapada - fortune-like collection of Buddhist sayings
fortune-mod - provides fortune cookies on demand
fortune-zh - Chinese Data files for fortune
fortunes - Data files containing fortune cookies
fortunes-bg - Bulgarian data files for fortune
fortunes-bofh-excuses - BOFH excuses for fortune
fortunes-br - Data files with fortune cookies in Portuguese
fortunes-cs - Czech and Slovak data files for fortune
fortunes-de - German data files for fortune

bilbo_pingouin

ok, remove ubuntu and get debian :D

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin No can do :)

bilbo_pingouin

more seriously, you know the concept of the fortune cookies you get in Chinese restaurants?

well there is a command on *nix system, called fortune

ArtOfCode

15:12

What are you trying to do? Is there some way I can hook into that module from Python and get fortunes out of it?

bilbo_pingouin

when it is installed you type "fortune" and it tells you some random sentence

and that was an inspiration to get the bot to tell some random sentences

ArtOfCode

Hm. So how do I get those on this system?

bilbo_pingouin

for example when asked with $>saysomething

ArtOfCode

Tell you what. Have you got an account on Cloud9 or GitHub?

bilbo_pingouin

well, my first idea was that the bot could be calling fortune locally (on your server) and transmit the output to us

github yes

ArtOfCode

15:14

Cool. You can get an account on c9 with your GH account, and then I can give you access to play around.

bilbo_pingouin

but since the bot has to be installable on windows, that is a wrong idea

ArtOfCode

@bilbo_pingouin The bot, yes. The modules we write for here, no.

We can do anything we like :)

bilbo_pingouin

on github, I am.... (drum roll)... bilbopingouin :D

ArtOfCode

surprise surprise

well if you wanna sign up on c9.io, then you can have a play.

bilbo_pingouin

anyways, overactor suggested to write the module (y)ourselves...

picking a random sentence from a pool isn't that hard to do.

@ArtOfCode will do. From work, it isn't ideal though

ArtOfCode

15:16

@bilbo_pingouin fair, you can always mess around when you get home

bilbo_pingouin

the only difficulty once the random picking is done, is to get a database of sentences

and overactor suggested a teaching command... to fill that db

and there you are :)

overactor

Did you know that the SE-Chatbot db is NoSQL?

That's how cool we are

ArtOfCode

we don't even have a db, that's how cool we are

Pavel Janicek

$>flip Pavel had his beer

user153821

@PavelJanicek (┛゜Д•)┛︵ɹǝǝq sᴉɥ pɐɥ ןǝʌɐԀ

bilbo_pingouin

15:19

I didn't... I have noted a few things, that I'll check from home

overactor

db schema are for suckers

bilbo_pingouin

@PavelJanicek weren't you supposed to be flying? Or you meant THAT kind of flying...? ;-)

overactor

dbs are for suckers

$>flip db

user153821

@overactor (┛'.⇀)ง︵qp

overactor

qp ?

I truly created a moster when I made that flip command

ArtOfCode

15:21

@overactor github.com/bmc/fortunes/blob/master/fortunes

free database of fortunes

bilbo_pingouin

well if you install fortune by itself, you can get their DB as well ;-) I made a few add-ons on mine with DrWho quotes...

ArtOfCode

though I might see if I can compile it into a pickle file, since we can natively deal with them

overactor

@ArtOfCode Could we not do a find and replace

Or just do it in the python repl

ArtOfCode

@overactor We could, but it's unnecessary logic. If I can get a pickle file out of it, we're golden.

overactor

I just meant, convert it using find and replace functionality of some editor

ArtOfCode

15:27

@overactor Not to pickle you can't.

overactor

How does pickle store a list of multiline strings?

ArtOfCode

@overactor in a very weird way

with lots of unicode control characters

— test

apparently not

overactor

So python repl it is?

ArtOfCode

@overactor try it, I'm getting unicode troubles

Hey hey, hold horses: software.clapper.org/fortune

python implementation

with data file

Pavel Janicek

15:47

Waiting for check in. So I am doing the most Czech thing I can: Drink beer ;)

Hohmannfan

No contenders

overactor

I'm too dumb for unicode :(

ArtOfCode

@overactor snap

I've drawn a blank on that python thing too, it's full of bugs

overactor

hmm

I'll keep working on the unicode thing

ArtOfCode

cheers

overactor

16:03

I gotta go now

I tried looking into the codecs module

it got me somewhere, but not far enough

396

A: Unicode (utf8) reading and writing to files in python

Rather than mess with the encode, decode methods I find it easier to use the open method from the codecs module. >>>import codecs >>>f = codecs.open("test", "r", "utf-8") Then after calling f's read() function, an encoded unicode object is returned. >>>f.read() u'Capit\xe1l\n\n' If you know...

ArtOfCode

shrug

user153821

17:32

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overactor

$>listcommands

user153821

@overactor alive, utc, listcommands, help, cat, exec, read, getcurrentusers, ping, flip, doubleflip, xkcdrandomnumber, xkcd, random, randomint, randomchoice, shuffle, detectlang, translate, *translationchain, *translationswitch, *stop, *disable, *enable, *ban, *unban, +delete, *module, define, givepoints, +adminpoints, getpoints, star, pin, unstar, unpin, +givemedal, showmedals

ArtOfCode

@overactor Have you found any good databases? I've given up on getting a pre-made solution, so we'll be rolling our own.

user153821

18:03

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user153821

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ArtOfCode

ugh, so much crash

user153821

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user153821

18:41

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ArtOfCode

ugh

user153821

19:02

Bot started.

bilbo_pingouin

21:07

$>alive

user153821

@bilbo_pingouin Yes, I'm alive.

bilbo_pingouin

glad to read that

Hohmannfan

@hoh ->alive?

presumably

HDE 226868

This site just gets weirder and weirder.

Hohmannfan

It is a little scary that one of the first commands people try to give to an AI is "take over the world". Also, nobody has cared to stop that process yet.

bilbo_pingouin

21:14

well I think Pavel tried, but the bot was busy following the first order...

@ArtOfCode got signed up on c9.io with my github account

ArtOfCode

22:18

@bilbo_pingouin You should have access now: ide.c9.io/artofcode_/karmabot

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Worldbuilding's Robots