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6:01 PM

Hrm

blames @Unionhawk

blames @Wipqozn

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Q: How Can I Play A Specific Sound File In Minecraft

What I mean by specific, is, I want to play a file from a folder containing more than one track, but Minecraft doesn't seem to allow one to specify a certain song from the folder, and only picks a random song out of those listed to be played. I've tried making a new folder that contains only t...

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Q: Are skill increasing items better than backpacks?

No matter how fast dwarves cut down blocks, the majority of time is spent going back and forth with items. Does an increased speed of block breaking ever pay off for forfeiting 1 more item slot?

craft-the-world

@TimStone it's fine I just used the immediate window to trick the client into correctly thinking that the server is the right version #lifehacks #ihavenocluewherethatversionnumberexists

No I'm blaming you for someone effectively bringing down the XYZ intranet due to some problem with the application | data firewall

6:14 PM

Oh

You should have wrote the "Don't unplug the firewall appliance" test case

Wait, do you have an appliance that generates am actual wall of fire?

Yes

But also no

Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Switch Docked vs Undocked Comparison + Frame-Rate Test

BoW drops fps as low as 20 fps in docked mode, while retaining stable 30 in portable

what

6:20 PM

Nintendo games at 30 fps in a best case scenario :(

@Chippies interesting...

shouldn't it drop more in portable mode?

Lower resolution

Maybe it's reducing graphics quality in portable mode

Less graphic effects

6:21 PM

Isn't the handheld still 900p or is it 720?

it does have a lower resolution but 720p vs 900p

I think it's 720

wait what

Well then yeah that is a factor

and when docked it's clocked speeds go up

in docked mode it runs at 900p20?

900p20??

6:22 PM

I... Guess

not even actual 1080p?

it's supposed to gain power in docked mode why is the push to 900p killing it so much?

Who knows

no it's not supposed to gain power in docked mode.

the dock is a piece of plastic and some wiring.

it does

6:22 PM

AFAIK

@Unionhawk mildly noticeable, but 720p vs 900p

also a bettery charger

@badp No, that can't be right

the cpu clock speeds increase while in docked mode because the system is receiving constant power

@badp it's a battery saving measure afaik

6:22 PM

which means battery drain is less of a concern.

Oh I see

@badp docked runs at like 700'ish mhz gpu, whereas portable runs at 300'ish

@BlueBarren cpu clocks are same in both modes, gpu clocks change tho

so yeah it's a tablet hup hup

@Chippies oh I thought it had a shared cpu/gpu

@BlueBarren that doesn't mean they have to be clocked the same

6:24 PM

is that not what the tegra process is?

oh okay

it's same as intel cpu with intel integrated gpu

they don't run at same clocks

but are on the same chip

I didn't know that

Yay, problem fixed. @Unionhawk's off the hook

I mean what were you going to do, drag me from Ohio to Delaware?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Don't you just love it when you accidentally quit the game

because pressing the esc key immediately exists the game

and there's no save system

6:27 PM

lol

no menu either?

gg

@Unionhawk Nah, it's Friday and I'm lazy. I was just going to sit around twiddling my thumbs until someone fixed it

@BlueBarren no

that's quite a few indie games

regrettably

6:27 PM

@badp It's arguably an AAA title by a major developer and publisher

what's the game?

(massive dejavu in progress)

though blame goes to emulator, not the game

@BlueBarren smb

uh smb?

Smb as in Mario Bros or meat boy

6:28 PM

super mario bros. the nes version.

oh

well smb on the NES didn't have saving soo

that's just how it is?

I get emulator can offer you save points

but I don't really know what I'm getting at

Usually save states

I'm playing on hardcore mode for retroachievements so no save states

WELL THEN

See I never end up using save states because I'll just save within the game

6:29 PM

The weird part is exiting immediately on hitting Esc

@murgatroid99 I blame retroarch

1 min ago, by BlueBarren

well smb on the NES didn't have saving soo

@BlueBarren save states are more flexible

Think quicksave

I've still never felt the need for it

Super Metroid is my go to example

never use save-states on that

I just use the regular save points

But it's probably more force of habit

well thankfully I was on 4-1 so can just warp there without losing achievements

still its annoying

It's a useful TAS or speedrun (for Wii U VC) tool

6:32 PM

@Unionhawk retroarch or save states?

(wii u VC savestates are considered legal by most speedrunning communities afaik)

@Avery save states

save states are arguably not a tool but meh, totally agreed

They haven't been considered legal in the past because no official console version has them

I like retroarch's rewind stuff. It's a really powerful tool, just not with best keybindings

Then wii u VC came out with them

6:35 PM

3DS has them too, no?

save states

I recall there being save states while playing Super Metroid on my 3DS

or that VC menu really

since I don't use save states

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go to world 3

I accidentally closed game on world 4 so

on an unrelated note fuck lakitu

Breath of the Wild Special Edition get!

Now for my Switch to arrive...

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Q: How much does an ME: Andromeda Premium multiplayer pack cost?

The Mass Effect Andromeda Deluxe Edition is $10 more than standard edition and includes a lot of extras. The Super Deluxe Edition is $30 more dollars, and includes everything from the Deluxe, as well as 1 "Premium Pack" every week, for 20 weeks: Mass Effect Andromeda: Super Deluxe Edition Inc...

6:57 PM

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Q: If you queue with a player in a lower SR, do you lose more SR points if you lose?

If you queue with a player in a lower SR, do you lose more SR points if you lose? and gain less SR points if you win? due to the fact that you are playing in a lower rank.

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Q: Is it possible for my Russian friend to gift me a game in the UK?

Simply put, I want to get 7 Days to Die and my friend (who lives in Russia) said he will buy it for me as a gift rather than give me money because it is cheaper for him. However, I was wondering if it is region locked? The link is here.

steam 7-days-to-die

@Lazers2.0 "my friend in russia" >_>

@Yuuki lick the game cart, I dare you

oh and send us a video

of you doing that

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yay mt emulator keeps crashing

7:14 PM

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2 and a quarter hours

7:30 PM

> 1xA Potato: $5 ea, ship to (my address)

I swear to god CAH if I get a potato and not the Senator

@Fluttershy you're a March fidget cube backer, right? You should have a backer kit survey to indicate where to ship to and what color you want

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Q: What do Dread and Chivalry do?

As far as I know, both Dread and Chivalry both increase the Public Order in a city / castle. But from my experience, I know that only Dread decreases the enemy's morale, but I'm not sure what Chivalry does. So, what are all their effects?

medieval-2-total-war

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@Unionhawk Their thing about it mentions that. IT's going to the Senator

Right, but IF I DO

I think Rob has been meeting with people

And by people I mean "he did a ticketed event and some of his staff refunded tickets for registered dems"

The newest Heroes of the Storm champion: Probius, the Protoss Probe.

Probius Trailer – Heroes of the Storm

> We told Blizz to make a worker hero and they actually did it. The absolute madmen.

7:46 PM

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Q: How do I get past second boulder in the Owa Daim Shrine?

I'm in the Owa Daima Shrine, i.e. the Stasis Trial. I can't seem to get past the second, stationary boulder. Is there an item/power I need to move it? I've only completed the Magnesis and Bomb Trials so far. How long should I sit here staring at this puzzle?

zelda-breath-of-the-wild

@Yuuki What the... now I gotta play again

@Yuuki is this legit?

@BlueBarren It's from the official Heroes of the Storm YouTube account and it's not April 1.

Oh god I can't wait for ow April fools

Oh god oh man

lol

7:49 PM

@Unionhawk I hope Jeff releases a dinoflask-style video.

@Yuuki ... the community is going to be so pissed about that

And dinoflask releases a proper developer update video.

I hope Jeff is added as a hero

@BlueBarren Judging by the thread, they're actually excited.

7 mins ago, by Yuuki

> We told Blizz to make a worker hero and they actually did it. The absolute madmen.

Or something

7:52 PM

@Yuuki I've never seen people ask for that

> Hello, this is Jeff from the Overwatch team. We know that there have been a lot of complaints about game balance with regards to Bastion. As a result, we're releasing an update straight to live today. We've changed Bastion's ultimate. Instead of Configuration: Tank, Bastion's new ultimate is Configuration: Giant F--kin' Robot You See In The Background On Volskaya.

> Whenever Bastion uses his ultimate, his teammates are automatically placed inside of his Giant Robot form. Each teammate controls a different weapon on Bastion's Giant Robot form while the Bastion player controls movement.

lol

@Avery pffft

you can run it in 15 min

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> Did you see the flub at the ceremony? They announced La La Lando as the winner on accident. I mean, it's not a bad movie. There were some good songs and they won for "City of Clouds".

Okay, 1-2-Switch is waiting for me at home now.

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I cant log inte My Minecraft account on My iPad it just say there was some problem with the log in plz try again or try on Xbox.com and there i could log in But What do i do then? I tried many Times' But it does not Word plus i have à hacked Minecraft so i did not Buy it:P Can someone really help...

8:11 PM

zenpencils.com/comic/king

anyone know how to start a new game for breath of the wild?

@Dragonrage ?

Break your Switch in half. Buy a new one.

is it not in the main menu or something?

doesnt appear to be

8:20 PM

#Switch-lifehacks

huh

watching a friend stream it, and he wanted to restart to show me the opening cinematic

I'm still at work so I don't even have my copy to look at, sorry

ah, apparently you need to go to settings, manage save data, and delete save data

one save only?

yikes

8:22 PM

seems to be

make a new profile and play it as a different user

that might work

i dont have a switch, so i cant test it

clickhole.com/article/…

it looks nice, but i dont have $300 to drop on one

well it's 450 in Canada so rip me

8:24 PM

@Dragonrage knowing Nintendo, there's probably some obscure button combination that erases your game progress (e.g. Pokemon)

@Chippies @Dragonrage so don't press that combination by accident!

@Chippies press start twice and erase your OS

the sad part about Switch is that it's just a portable WiiU, basically

and running BoW at 30 fps (which Switch can't even maintain) was a huge mistake considering Nintendo's great track record with 60 fps games

@Chippies I wonder what they'd have to sacrifice for better performance, draw distance maybe?

some physics stuff?

@Unionhawk I got my backer survey and stuff back in like... November. :o

8:27 PM

Use toon link again

@BlueBarren better hardware, probably

@Chippies oh sure that too

I mean, they can probably optimize for more stable 30 fps, but 60 is unreachable on current hardware

hopefully zelda is the exception

I would be surprised if they didn't patch the game to run at stable 30 fps over the next couple months

8:28 PM

as MK8D is 60

most 1st party nintendo titles run at 60 fps

true

honestly, the unstable 30 fps is the main reason why I'm probably not going to buy BoW, at least not right now

I've been gaming on Xbox for years so idk I'll live

Hyrule Warriors was one of my favorite games on WiiU, but as you progressed through the game, especially in co-op, it kept dropping to 20 or even lower fps and it was the biggest deal breaker for me

I can't stand that about consoles

8:31 PM

was it supposed to run 30 or 60?

on PC if my fps drops under 30, I know that someday in the future I have the option to replay the game on a better PC

@BlueBarren 30

stable 30 doesn't bother me (although 60 is highly preferrable)

but dropping under 30 is unacceptable, imho

I care

it ruins immersion and literally hurts my eyes

I just don't care enough not to buy something

I just got 1080p60fps on my PC and now all these rich people are moving onto 4K60fps

@BlueBarren I care enough to save my 80$ CAD for something that won't frustrate me :P

8:32 PM

@Chippies with amazon prime it's only 73 CAD! :D

@BlueBarren that's not true, 4k@60fps is still 2000$+ range

total

@BlueBarren + amazon prime costs and taxes

@Chippies hence I said rich people :p

@Chippies well I got my copy through my brother's amazon prime xp

@Chippies something something eyes something something 24 fps

8:33 PM

and 2000$ won't even cut it for 4k@60fps without sacrificing quality settings in most games

1080ti though?

I actually let my wife play Forza Horizon 3 at 30 fps, then 60 fps, then 30 fps again today

she was fine with 30 fps, then going to 60 she didn't notice difference

sli 1080ti

then going back to 30 she was like "okay, now I see what you mean, this is horrible"

i want to get a 980 ti at least

8:35 PM

@BlueBarren doesn't exist yet, also it's like 800-900$ CAD each

but my current case wont fit one

Generally I really notice with a comparison, ie Skyrim. Played that on 360 originally then got it on a PC

@Chippies didn't they announce it today or yesterday?

@Dragonrage do you have some sort of a prebuilt dell case or something?

@BlueBarren oh it's been announced, we know it's coming, but it's not available yet afaik

@Chippies no

I haven't paid much attention to those news lately

I'm more interested in what AMD offers

I'm a bit rotted with nvidia's business practices

8:36 PM

pcpartpicker.com/list/wk3mf7

@Dragonrage that case can definitely fit a 980ti

that's like, one of the biggest cases available

really? i thought the 980 ti was much bigger than my current gpu

how big do you think gpu's can get? lol

pretty big

as big or bigger than a mobo

8:38 PM

@Dragonrage You don't need that aftermarket cooler for an i3 dual core. Also, get at least an i5.

> Height: 4.376in - 111.15mm
Length: 10.5in - 266.7mm
Width: Dual Slot

tbh, i should upgrade most of of my parts in there

that's the EVGA 980ti dimensions, the largest one available

ok, i think that should fit then

yea, i got the extra cpu cooler because i had it in an enclosed place when i first got my pc

@MBraedley nothing wrong with having better cooling, assuming he already has those parts

and the cooler can always be reused after a cpu upgrade

8:40 PM

but, i figure better safe than sorry when it comes to cooling

@Chippies It's overkill. Better to spend the $35 on a CPU upgrade and use the stock cooler that comes with it.

I'm using the same evo 212 with my i5-6600k@4.5ghz and it's doing good

@Fluttershy oh well apparently they're locking in responses march 6

@MBraedley sure, but he already has the cpu and the cooler, so it's a moot point

For "as soon as available and also backer number" delivery

8:42 PM

@Dragonrage That CPU has a TDP of 54W. You could almost cool that with a passive heat sink.

the intel stock coolers are really loud though, so that's another reason why one might want an aftermarket

my wife runs i5-4460 (iirc) with the stock cooler and it does just fine, but her PC is louder at idle than mine

you guys seem to know more about parts than me, so can you recommend me some upgrade parts? i want to get a new gpu and cpu at least

I can hear her PC idle, but I can't hear mine and I wish I couldn't hear her's...

@Unionhawk I was one of the early locks. The ones that got the email when they weren't supposed to. So mine is already locked, and I've already been charged for the addons. lol

Kevin van der Velden

You know, I'm not sure I'm 100% sold on sous vide, but it sure does keep the juices in meat

8:44 PM

hmm can my case hold a 1070?

@Dragonrage your case can hold any gpu on the market

cool

gpu's don't really get any bigger than evga 980ti

@Fluttershy oic

and some aftermarket cooled gpu's are shorter than others

8:45 PM

Lol

what you need to worry about is your PSU

someone told me that my case was only a half sized tower

Kevin van der Velden

I mean, they literally can't go anywhere so that makes sense

and 1070 uses less power than 980ti, so there's that

so i wasnt sure if it could hold a new gpu

i can upgrade psu if needed

8:46 PM

@Dragonrage idk who told you that, but haf 912 used to be used by a lot of PC builders due to it's sheer size

it's massive

@Unionhawk Yeah... But thank you for the heads up, regardless!

the limiting factor can be the power supply, but that isn't much of a problem now if you have a 400W+ good PSU

@Dragonrage your psu is fine for current gen of gpu's

even the 980ti should be fine

the 1070 would be a better choice, as it's about the same price as 980ti (afaik) and it's faster and uses less power

I would skip the cpu upgrade and wait for AMD Ryzen to get out in the market, so the prices stabilize and probably just upgrade the whole system

alright, i need to make a list with the parts so i can start watching for deals on them

since upgrading your cpu means either buying an older, potentially used, cpu or upgrading the whole system anyway

it all kinda depends on how much you're willing to spend

your best bet would probably be to just get a better gpu and stick with it until you are ready to replace cpu, motherboard and ram

which is gonna cost a nice chunk

8:51 PM

if i grab a gtx 1070. that will be compatible with what i currently have right?

I tend to replace the GPU off-cycle, CPUs keep much longer current. And changing the GPU is trivial unlike the CPU

@Dragonrage I don't see any reason why it wouldn't

your PSU is powerful enough

the rest of your system isn't ancient

alright cool.

what is the difference in the models?

newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814125871

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I remember playing a game around 1990, it may have been as late as 1992 but the game may also have been made years before I played it. I played it on a machine with DOS, probably a 486 cpu. It has 2d graphics (probably 256 colors) and a top-down view of the world. Today I would call it some so...

game-identification

@Dragonrage different cooling solutions, different length, slightly different clock speeds

the cooling solutions and length are the major factors, since gpu's can be OC's pretty easily

@Dragonrage without any additional research, I would pick this one, since EVGA is one of the better manufacturers of NVIDIA cards and it's the cheapest 1070 available right now on newegg

that being said, if you're willing to wait, once the 1080ti is released, 1070ti won't be far behind and the prices on 1070 non-ti's will drop

8:58 PM

i can wait a bit.

normally waiting is pointless, since you'd always end up waiting, but since 1080ti is supposed to launch pretty soon, it might be worth waiting

i want to get another job before i buy a new cpu, mobo, and ram

I got a 1070 while it was on sale to get ready for a build and then Ryzen came out.

Well, at least I have my Switch, I guess.

@Yuuki why can't you use 1070 with Ryzen?

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