The Bridge

ardaozkal

22:01

I see netflix on some websites too, 10-20 PEOPLE HAD BAD PASSWORDS ULTRA MEGA BREACH ON NETFLIX

(I don't support nor use those websites)

RedRiderX

@fredley Oh so like clean injection sites for drug addicts?

ChromeSlice

4 hours ago, by ChromeSlice

Similar to supervised injection sites

RedRiderX

welp

ChromeSlice

Although it's kind of weird that we'd have those before booze equivalent

I guess hard drugs are more addictive

user15026

Makes sense to me, to be honest - drug effects are more immediate, more addictive etc. and tend to do the most obvious social harm, so you start with that. At least, that's my understanding.

RedRiderX

22:14

@AshleyNunn That sounds about right

Arperum

@ChromeSlice Alcohol is actually a hard drug.

Dragonrage

@Arperum liquids can be very hard.

surface tension

fredley

@RedRiderX yup

Yuuki

@Dragonrage And leeching metals.

@Fluttershy @StrixVaria Oh hey, apparently health packs will heal Torbjorn's turret.

Fluttershy

@Yuuki Oh really? So you can pick them up as Torbjorn and the turret will get the effect? :o

Yuuki

22:26

@Fluttershy No, if you place a turret on a health pack location, it'll heal up every time a health pack spawns.

And there's a map where a health pack has a very good view of the control point.

badp

error. expected: error, got: error

Yuuki

Health packs also heal Junkrat's Riptire.

GodEmperorDune

@ChromeSlice the bridge?

ChromeSlice

my house

user15026

@ChromeSlice When you go from "there is someone else here" to "hey it's just me again" it sucks. You do get used to it again after awhile, but the interim sucks. (I do it every time @WorldEngineer visits.)

GodEmperorDune

22:35

there @AshleyNunn goes, figuring out what i was going to say but doing it in a vastly more eloquent way

:p

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Thanks, for thinking I'm eloquent

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn you're the eloquentest person i know

badp

You are a certified, professional English user

you have words

you have the best words

user15026

It's true, I have a degree in words

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Aww, you're sweet. :P

badp

22:37

what is the best word out of the words that you have?

Dragonrage

@badp hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia

badp

that holds not even a candle to defenestration

the fact that defenestration is a word that exists is a gift to mankind

user15026

@badp Hm. It depends on what sort of best you want.

Dragonrage

i actually wrote an entire paper analyzing the word hippopotomonstrosesquipedaliophobia

GodEmperorDune

@badp i wouldn't trust defenestration farther than i could throw it

badp

22:39

@Dragonrage I'm sorry.

@AshleyNunn the sort of best that you like the best.

like, your favourite word that you are happy is a word that exists

even if you only get to use it every so often.

and maybe others disagree on it being a word that exists, but it doesn't really matter, they don't know your lifestyle.

user15026

@badp Hm. Of the words I use often, it'd be "wobbly". Of words I don't get to use enough, it would be "limerence". Of the words that might not be words to anyone but me, its "squobbly" (that feeling of being all wobbly and unhappy in the middle of yourself when things are not just so in a very particular sense)

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn TIL 2 new words

badp

wow, limerence is a nice word.

GodEmperorDune

i mean limerence is so specific

you truly have the best words

> 1970s: from limer- (apparently an arbitrary syllable) + -ence.

user15026

I like when I find words for weirdly specific things.

GodEmperorDune

22:44

i didn't even know words could do that

user15026

@GodEmperorDune aka someone made it up, because we can

GodEmperorDune

but they made it up and then it still existed for 40 more years

not even like the kooky ELU single word request neologisms

StrixVaria

@Yuuki That's a very strange thing.

user15026

Ebullience is another nice word that people need to use more.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn i learned that one in high school!

Dragonrage

22:46

@AshleyNunn erinaceous

StrixVaria

@AshleyNunn I've actually never heard that word before.

GodEmperorDune

well ebullient, but same difference

badp

@AshleyNunn I like that it basically means you're boiling

user15026

@Dragonrage Hedgehogs!

Dragonrage

Qualtagh

or how about tarantism

GodEmperorDune

22:48

i vote that @AshleyNunn start up a word of the day/week/$recurringTimePeriod thing

user15026

@StrixVaria I kinda...collect words in my head when I like the sound of them. And then when I get anxious, I just kinda roll the nice sounding words around my head like mental marbles til I calm down.

user15026

@Dragonrage I don't like the sound "ism" makes in words.

user15026

I also don't like words with too many guttural sounds.

StrixVaria

I read a book last year that used "insouciantly" and I memorized it so I could look it up later.

user15026

@StrixVaria Ooooh, that's another excellent word!

GodEmperorDune

22:49

@StrixVaria i like nonchalant because of the weird mental image it conjures up

Dragonrage

@AshleyNunn i like them because i can pronounce them well. i cannot roll r's and such as i produce sounds with my throat as opposed to by articulating them with my tongue

user15026

@GodEmperorDune It always makes me think of how my cat looks when he walks away from something he knows is his fault but he is trying so hard to make me think it wasn't

user15026

@Dragonrage Oh man, rolling r's is so hard

Dragonrage

if i could roll my r's i would actually be a much better trumpet player and i could actually flutter tongue notes

user15026

@Dragonrage I want to be able to roll r's so I can speak Russian better

GodEmperorDune

22:51

@AshleyNunn i don't even have a cat but i know exactly that walk you're talking about

user15026

because it is such a nice sounding language

Chippies

user15026

@GodEmperorDune My brain is a very visual place, I've discovered.

Dragonrage

isn't russian a slavic language? i thought slavic languages were more guttural

GodEmperorDune

@Chippies a bit nsfw

Chippies

22:52

all these fancy words makes me go derp

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage it is like the most slavic language

Chippies

@GodEmperorDune one out of 20+ words is "penis". I think the emphasis is definitely on "a bit"

user15026

@Dragonrage They can be, but Russian just works for me. I don't know why, but it just makes my brain happy.

Chippies

I don't think Russian is guttural much...

I mean, a little bit, I guess? mmm...

I can never think of any examples in my head when I need them

user15026

Yeah, when I think of the sounds I don't like it's more the sorts of back of the throat spitball sounds that you get in Dutch a lot

Lazers 2.0

22:56

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SaintWacko

@GodEmperorDune A bit, but it's hilarious

@AshleyNunn That's my problem, too

GodEmperorDune

@Chippies the theme of the whole thing is oral sex ... but w/e i won't be the one to flag it

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn It's such a beautiful language!

Also, you haven't been working on your Russian!

@GodEmperorDune Flagged for saying oral sex

Wait, shit

user15026

@SaintWacko I know! My phone has been stupid about Duolingo and I forget to do it on my iPad

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn Have you ever watched anything by Victor Borge?

Chippies

22:59

@GodEmperorDune I don't think that qualifies as nsfw

user15026

@SaintWacko I've not. I know the name but not much else. Should I fix that?

Chippies

there's no way someone passing by your desk would think that's anymore nsfw as reading comics at work is

SaintWacko

@AshleyNunn omg yes

He's amazing

You will love him

His "Phonetic Punctuation" is a good introduction

And Inflationary Language

And the Timid Page-Turner

And everything he's ever said, done, or played

user15026

Alight, I will make a note to look up his stuff when I am home tonight, then :)

SaintWacko

:D

He's also an incredibly talented pianist

user15026

23:02

Oooh, yay

two bugs

Okay, getting ready to start streaming OPENING HEARTHSTONE PACKS!!!! WOOOOOO

Dragonrage

i just finished another cup of coffee, and I feel like I need another one

oh well, there are worse things to be addicted to than caffeine

StrixVaria

@SaintWacko His stuff is really great.

There are a lot of great skits, but the one I really remembered as a kid learning to play the piano was the one where he played the "Happy Birthday" song in the style of various composers.

user15026

@StrixVaria Okay, I feel like i need to check this out.

StrixVaria

He did Gershwin!

SaintWacko

23:11

@StrixVaria Yay, another fan!

Dragonrage

@SaintWacko the jokes on you. your avatar looks exactly the same

SaintWacko

@Dragonrage But it's much higher resolution!

Dragonrage

@SaintWacko its like 10mmx10mm

GodEmperorDune

@SaintWacko so you're wasting my bytes

with your DPIs

two bugs

twitch.tv/twobugs PACKS

Dragonrage

23:15

you cant really tell the difference when its that small

GodEmperorDune

@Dragonrage phrasing cc @uni

@twobugs hyped for this talk with ben whoever

user15026

@twobugs Your stream titles make me laugh. :P

Dragonrage

@twobugs no pecs though

StrixVaria

@twobugs You play Hearthstone?

Private Pansy

I was pleasantly surprised when I found a MLP episode on the Hugo finalist list. Then I found out it was in one of the puppy slates. Now I feel so dirty

It's just... Ugh

ChromeSlice

23:28

hugo? puppy?

user15026

@PrivatePansy Really? Rabid or Sad?

Private Pansy

Both I think, going by the comments. I'm not going to dirty my browsing history visiting those sites.

They also managed to get a pr

Pornographic short story nominated

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Private Pansy

There is a certain amount of irony in nominating a show like MLP that is strongly feminist though. Can you guess which episode they nominated? Ugh...

ChromeSlice

> BEST DRAMATIC PRESENTATION

seriously? Is it that dramatic?

(I've never watched more than seconds)

GodEmperorDune

23:35

@PrivatePansy wat

ChromeSlice

@PrivatePansy cool

Dragonrage

user15026

@PrivatePansy I've not watched it in quite a while

user15026

@PrivatePansy Of course they did.

Dragonrage

cc @twobugs a uml diagram for a language i wrote

user15026

23:36

It bugs me because I like some of the books written by the Puppy supporters etc but the people just make me want to vomit

user15026

@PrivatePansy Yeah, there's a lot of overlap between sad and rabid puppies. I tend to hate sad a little less but the whole thing is gross and messy

ChromeSlice

I assume you're not talking about actual dogs

user15026

@ChromeSlice Nope

user15026

Sad Puppies and Rabid Puppies are two attempts to game the Hugo nominations to take away from "SJW" authors.

user15026

It's gross and most of the people who spearheaded the SP/RP slates are pretty unpleasant humans.

user15026

23:39

(There are some exceptions, as always.)

Private Pansy

@AshleyNunn The worst part of that is that nominations that are good that just happen to be on the list will also come under scrutiny

user15026

@PrivatePansy Yeah, thats why I get extra mad at it

user15026

because people are punishing good stuff that just happened to show up on a puppy slate

ChromeSlice

Is it just like an organized group of people who write things just to try and get a hugo award?

user15026

@ChromeSlice It's an organized group of people trying to get people to vote on certain works to recieve the awards

ChromeSlice

23:41

Is that not like, illegal

Yuuki

@ChromeSlice ... No?

ChromeSlice

I guess they're not like, bribing people, right?

user15026

Anyone with a membership for WorldCon gets to vote

user15026

So they're trying to game those votes

user15026

Starting with what gets nominated

user15026

23:42

@ChromeSlice Nope, because like you said there's no bribery, etc. It's just a bunch of people trying to convince other people to vote certain ways in a literary award thing to make some sort of stupid point

badp

@Dragonrage ugh those things slightly out of alignment

GodEmperorDune

didn't last time the anti-puppies win somehow?

ChromeSlice

Is worldcon like a tumblr thing or?

Private Pansy

They won by voting 'no award' on several categories

Which is still a net loss because good works that should get recognition don't

user15026

@ChromeSlice No, it's not a tumblr thing

user15026

23:43

@PrivatePansy yeah, No Award doesn't really fix it either

ChromeSlice

Huh. Never heard of it.

user15026

Hugo Award

The Hugo Awards are a set of awards given annually for the best science fiction or fantasy works and achievements of the previous year. The awards are named after Hugo Gernsback, the founder of the pioneering science fiction magazine Amazing Stories, and were officially named the Science Fiction Achievement Awards until 1992. Organized and overseen by the World Science Fiction Society, the awards are given each year at the annual World Science Fiction Convention as the central focus of the event. They were first given in 1953, at the 11th World Science Fiction Convention, and have been awarded...

ChromeSlice

Pretty sure I have heard of those

user15026

@ChromeSlice That's what this is in regards to, WorldCon is where the awards are given out

user15026

They're structured so that anyone who is a member of the con (and it's trivial to do so) can vote

GodEmperorDune

23:45

@ChromeSlice they used to award the most awesome scifi things. then these guys started to wreck the results

user15026

So the Puppy groups are trying really really hard to game the results and mess it up to prove some sort of point to all the people they think are terrible SJWs or whatever

ChromeSlice

That's shitty

Why don't they just ban those people

Yuuki

@ChromeSlice How do you determine whether a vote was cast by someone from a Puppy group or not?

Dragonrage

@badp yea, i wouldve fixed that way back when, but there were supposed to be groups of 5-7 working on this project and I got stuck in a group of 2 and my only partner was more interested in looking at things on pinterest than actually helping me do the work

ChromeSlice

yeah true I guess

Dragonrage

23:46

interestingly enough, my group was one of two groups that got an A on the project

badp

@Dragonrage graphviz and dot and plantuml are things that exist

GodEmperorDune

@ChromeSlice as poisonous as the viewpoint is, most literary societies are much more against censorship and punishing people for their viewpoint

badp

I mean I get that your teacher doesn't really care for those diagrams since they know this stuff already

Yuuki

The annoying thing is that the only thing I know about them is from Wikipedia and the stated goal sounds not too bad. But apparently they're terrible people.

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Pretty much, because that goes against the whole point of most of these and for the Hugos in particular, goes right against the whole openness of the whole process

user15026

23:47

@Yuuki Which, the Puppies?

Dragonrage

@badp i think i was using dia

Yuuki

@AshleyNunn Yeah. If the awards are biased towards fiction that tries to push a message or ideology, then I can see why they're doing what they're doing.

badp

@Dragonrage sandbox.kidstrythisathome.com/erdos

user15026

The generally claimed "head" of the Rabid Puppies is a definite piece of work. Correia often gets labelled as head of the Sad Puppies - I like his books, but he can be a kinda problem

Yuuki

But apparently they're assholes, so I wash myself of this nonsense.

GodEmperorDune

23:49

@Yuuki these are books, of course they are pushing a message: read more

user15026

@Yuuki The problem is, they're mistaking "ideologic push" for "we want representation in fiction for all people, not just while cis het ideals"

Dragonrage

@badp that looks interesting. it might have been helpful to have that when i was doing that project 3 years ago

ChromeSlice

Write your own books then

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn but cis male white het ideals are the best!

ChromeSlice

I don't get what they're trying to do in that case

badp

23:49

@Dragonrage the more you know ~

user15026

@ChromeSlice Who?

ChromeSlice

nevermind, I don't really understand what I'm talking about enough to discuss it

badp

it often happens that you want to whip up a diagram in a hurry

Yuuki

@ChromeSlice Well, it seems they are writing their own books but they aren't getting nominated or voted through.

GodEmperorDune

all messages that aren't cis white male het ideals make me feel icky

Yuuki

23:50

@ChromeSlice Yeah, me neither.

user15026

There are plenty of people writing queer fiction or PoC fiction or whatever, but breaking into teh market and actually getting visibility for those stories is INSANELY hard.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune *reaches towards the pin button*

GodEmperorDune

@Yuuki such mod abuse

user15026

And the thing is, people often want to write things that sell, and the easiest way to do that? Don't rock the boat.

ChromeSlice

@Yuuki I guess nobody wants to read them then

Why is that a problem

user15026

23:51

@ChromeSlice Oh, but we DO.

user15026

But again, it comes back to getting publishers and stuff to take the risk of allowing these things to have a life on the shelves.

ChromeSlice

what does that have to do with the awards?

Also, publishers want to make money

user15026

I know SO MANY authors of PoC/LGBT/marginalized fiction (mostly romance because that's how I roll) and they have tried and worked SO HARD to write things

Yuuki

@ChromeSlice I think part of @AshleyNunn's annoyance is stemming from the fact that the Puppy group occasionally chooses to support a book that she likes and the fact the book is supported by the Puppy group keeps it from getting an award that it deserves.

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn i have to admit it can be a bit shocking to be halfway through a book and be "wait, what? i totally assumed that character was like me..."

Yuuki

23:53

Due to backlash from the Puppy group being a group of jerks.

GodEmperorDune

but that doesn't make it a bad book or story or w/e

user15026

@Yuuki Yeah, I get really stompy when GOOD STUFF doesn't get votes just because the stupid puppies touched it

Dragonrage

It's almost been a year since I graduated from college.

user15026

@GodEmperorDune I love this, though. Because the fact that you NOTICE when peopel aren't like you is like....exactly my point :) In a lot of ways, I notice the inverse.

Yuuki

@GodEmperorDune And just because I don't like a book doesn't make it a bad book.

(I hate Great Expectations)

user15026

23:55

@Yuuki I'm really bad at liking anything that people call "literature"

Dragonrage

@Yuuki If I don't like a book, it's probably a bad book :P

GodEmperorDune

@AshleyNunn you mean that people who are not like me are just as complex and interesting to read about as the people who are like me?

Dragonrage

@AshleyNunn what about the great classics?

user15026

@GodEmperorDune Shocking, but true

user15026

@Dragonrage I don't think many classics are all that great :P

user15026

23:57

(Seriously when you peek at the sort of stuff I read, its a miracle I survived the Literature parts of my degree)

Dragonrage

@AshleyNunn yea, me neither. they extremely boring, and most are very old and written about things that aren't really relatable or relevant to today

If you took Moby Dick and took out 90% of the book, you could have an interesting story. Then with the 90% you took out, you could make a guide to whaling.

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