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17:00
@Frank you can fit a bunch of non-Gunpla figures in it, like so, and also this gattai
Yep I think I'm screwed
We... will find out I guess
But I think I'm screwed
@Unionhawk uhhoh =[ The missed tests stuff?
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ Yeah, that's pretty large.
17:02
@fredley I like how their ad copy is about how unique and rare it is to listen to classical music in an unstuffy environment with booze and stuff.
I'm probably going to take the Build Strike into work once I'm done with it. Put something on my desk here to give it some personality.
(That shit's been going on in NYC for years).
@LessPop_MoreFizz Fair enough
@KevinvanderVelden We'll find out but I think so
@TimStone what vegetable? I see no vegetables
17:03
There isn't so much of it going on in London, not at that level anyway (they're one of the top orchestras in the country)
I saw Glenn Branca debut a symphony in a crowded bar full of hipsters a few years ago.
@KevinvanderVelden SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
@LessPop_MoreFizz Haha, fair enough
(Admittedly, Glenn Branca is a bit more line blurry than these guys are, but that just further proves my point, IMO).
@LessPop_MoreFizz These guys are Serious early music
They have theorbos n' shit
17:09
@fredley Yeah, Branca is an event garde noise guitar classical guy
@LessPop_MoreFizz Too trendy. These guys play Purcell, Montiverdi etc. on period instruments
Yeah, there's that shit around too. I just used Branca as an example.
Ugh
KSP, stop crashing
> Fine, I just won't start anymore.
@KevinvanderVelden Noo!
17:18
Message number 20.000.000 soon
For those of you getting the New3DS here is how to transfer your stuff
cc @Yuuki
@Batophobia excellent, thanks
special editions new 3ds are still nowhere to be seen... hopefully they turn up soon...
@Rapitor You can buy mine. For the low, low markup of 100%!
gonna have to pass on that
17:32
Aww. I suck at scalping, it seems.
just ate lunch and im still hunger. damnit 1 can of soup was not a wise choice
...FedEx just left a $400 package on my front door.
I should probably go make sure that it doesn't get taken.
For those getting a N3DS with pre-installed software (the Monster Hunter Limited Edition), I cannot stress "do not register a Nintendo Network ID before transfer" enough.
Do not, I repeat, do not register a NNID on the N3DS.
@Yuuki Nah, just link it to your existing one.
Once you do so, it will link the pre-installed software with that NNID and it will be lost to you once you do the transfer.
17:40
I just did that to register my WiiU and 3DS.
@Frank Just to be safe, don't do it before you complete the System Transfer.
@Frank The N3DS is considered part of the 3DS family, you can only have one 3DS family console registered to one NNID at a time.
@Yuuki That's...inane.
And kinda stupid.
@Yuuki you can only have one account per console...?
@Frank That's the Nintendo way!
@Frank It's their stupid way of preventing people from sharing accounts.
17:42
@Yuuki how does sony handle it with psp?
@Rapitor AFAIK, that's the case with the 3DS.
Not so with the Wii U.
@Rapitor IIRC, you can have multiple user accounts.
Yep, physical carts all the way
Same method as the PS3/4.
Especially given nintendo
@Unionhawk That's why I actually like that the Majora's Mask Limited Edition doesn't come with Majora's Mask pre-installed.
I can get my own physical cart rather than mess with Nintendo's digital stuff.
17:49
I was planning on remaining digital with n3ds once i get it, as digital on handheld just makes perfect sense, but Nintendo.... not good
Eh, unless you're constantly on the move, I don't see a problem with physical carts. You're really only ever going to play two, maybe three, different games a day, and you can just carry those carts in your pocket or something.
And then come home and swap 'em out.
the amount of DS original games I lost proves that to be less than ideal.
those little shits are tiny
I would suggest a cart case, but that's something you can't quite carry in your pocket.
Then again, neither is the N3DS XL (which is the only version NA is getting right now).
If I've registered my 3DS and WiiU, I should be getting coins for them, right?
All right. Let's find out if I'm screwed and/or how screwed I am.
17:54
@Unionhawk 3.6 points screwed
@Rapitor First impressions of the pirate game: Concept looks neat.
But it has a stupid energy mechanic.
yeah, that's what the reviews were saying.
It was only a buck, so I'm not too chuffed.
We'll see how it plays out.
@Frank The game wasn't free and still has an energy mechanic?
@StrixVaria Yeah. They're trying new things.
It also has microtransactions.
Including a subscription service to remove ads.
18:00
Yikes
Paid game with ads?
What game is this, so I can stay far away from it?
Every developer who builds a game with an energy mechanic should get punched in the face every time someone has to stop playing their game due to energy.
@Frank I don't understand how you're not the first person in line trying to beat down their door for being the worst developer ever.
@StrixVaria Kairosoft hasn't really figured out free to play economies... their free games were great for us as you never needed to pay to gain anythig, but bad for them as they probably lost money on it. and their paid games are too much (5$) for most of the "casual mobile" market to dump
@StrixVaria They should get punched extra hard if the game then immediately offers to sell you more energy for real money
@StrixVaria They get a lot of leeway from me.
Microtransactions, pay-to-buy, energy mechanic, and ads even after paying money. It's the superfecta of shitty-ass developer decisions.
18:02
As is, I have no idea how invasive the energy mechanic even is.
All Kairosoft games I've played to date, microtransactions aren't needed at all.
Pay-to-buy paired with energy is the worst offense, though.
And most of the features for their games, like removing ads and fast speed, can be bought with in-game currency.
@Frank that's the problem with them. great for us, but bad for kairosoft as a business
This one is different, so far.
@Rapitor That's why I think they're experimenting.
The instant I recognize an energy mechanic in a game, I am done with that game forever.
18:03
i'm not saying require microtransactions in order to win, but there is just no reason to buy the cash points in the game
I'm willing to give them a bit of slack on this one.
A close second is an "ask your friends for help" mechanic.
beastie bay had it good, you can "buy" the ability to do different things with your beasts. not required, but cool.
@StrixVaria You can undertake quests with your friends. I don't believe it locks progression, though.
Locking progression behind friend spam is the day I murder a game, no matter who made it.
I hate the way mobile games have evolved.
It pains me so much every time I see my mom post a candy crush update on Facebook.
18:06
@StrixVaria You can turn those off.
@StrixVaria But did your Mom play video games before?
@JasonBerkan Yeah, she was a pretty hardcore Quake fan.
@JasonBerkan No, but I'd be happier with her still not playing anything than playing candy crush.
Candy Crush is not a gateway into real games. It's a gateway into a hateful world of pay-to-win mobile garbage.
@StrixVaria shrugs - mobile games have evolved to hit a market that doesn't play traditional video games. They don't see it as garbage.
My issue is not with the gameplay necessarily. Casual games are fine. I'm not trying to be an elitist saying that games aren't worthy of anyone's attention unless they're sufficiently hardcore.
My issue is with the way mobile developers use psychological tricks with the pacing of the early game to try to get you to pay money.
You run out of energy JUST as you're about to accomplish your first cool thing.
18:10
@StrixVaria This
And it says "well, now you have to wait. OR you could spam your friends so we can try to get them to give us money. OR you can just give us money"
Games that do that are evil
@StrixVaria So long as this game doesn't employ something like that, I won't have any issues with it.
one finger death punch did it hilarously bad. the game still has stamina, but you gain it more than you lose it
Short of that friend progression shit I mentioned earlier.
18:11
@Frank I still think energy mechanics are dumb and don't like games with them, but they alone aren't inherently evil unless paired with the money-extraction methods.
@Rapitor Wait what? I played that game a lot. How is that relevant to what I'm talking about?
@StrixVaria And I get it; any game that has that mechanic gets a massive thumbs down. Kairosoft just has a ton of goodwill from me, so they get some slack.
Oh I didn't even know there was a mobile version.
The mobile version included an energy mechanic? :|
@Frank I'm thinking its because they are primarily a japanese developer and things are different there.
@Rapitor They're certainly playing around with different business models.
18:14
If you're using an energy mechanic as your monetization method, you're doing it wrong. People don't like to pay for mobile games sight-unseen. So offer a free timed demo or X levels so people can determine if it's worth buying.
Then once you buy it don't rate limit people who want to play your game.
Status: may have some variety of make up, maybe not.
That makes no sense. If people like your game enough to play it to the point where they would run out of energy, then don't stop them from playing it.
Imagine if you could only read 10 pages of a book, and then you had to wait 30 minutes before another page became available to read.
@StrixVaria Rationing the fun is a pretty dirty psychological trick to make you shell out.
"But you were having so much fun! If you want to play more, you'll need to give us money."
18:16
Feb 24!
@StrixVaria But if people will pay you to keep playing the game, why wouldn't you charge them?
Very few people actually pay. The majority of people don't mind energy mechanics because they only have short periods of time to play.
@JasonBerkan I don't think as few as you think.
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Q: Psn account log in

ZarathustraxIn how many PS3 can I log in with my account of psn? I would stay at my cousin place like for 2 weeks and I want to download some games from my account to play there.

I know my mom has given money to candy crush for 'lives' or some shit on a couple occasions.
18:17
@JasonBerkan So you punish a random subset of your audience. Ok.
@GnomeSlice actually only a couple of percent of people actually pay, but those people pay A LOT
@murgatroid99 Because you're not an evil greedface?
@GnomeSlice This is why we encouraged them to avoid the internet for so long
@Chippies source?
@StrixVaria we're talking about the companies that are
18:18
@GnomeSlice Idk if I can find it now, I read it a while ago, but lemme see what I can do...
@murgatroid99 And the whole point is I wish fewer people supported those monsters.
@StrixVaria You seem to be ascribing something that could be described as "ethics" to companies willing to use psychological manipulation to extract as much money as possible from people
@Chippies Yeah, whales.
this seems to have most of the information I remember
not the exact article I read though
@murgatroid99 They aren't ethical, which is a problem. People give money to unethical companies, which is another problem.
Overall the whole mobile games marketplace is complete trash, as a result.
18:20
@StrixVaria You shouldn't put all of the blame on the people who get sucked in to the psychological manipulation
@murgatroid99 I remember specifically mentioning two problems in the very post you responded to.
@StrixVaria My point is that you are blaming the very people those companies are taking advantage of for getting taken advantage of
I don't think the mobile market is as bad as everyone says. There are good paid games available; they are just dwarfed by the F2P games, because the "mom playing Candy Crush" market unbelievable dwarfs the traditional gamer market.
Yes, they are partly to blame. Not fully, though. I don't put all the blame on them.
The unethical companies are to blame, but they can and will continue to exist as long as people get sucked into their traps. So I wish people stopped getting sucked into the traps so that it was no longer a market for vapid garbage games so that we could finally see some quality.
I also wish companies like that just all got hit by meteors or something, but that won't happen.
@StrixVaria People will stop getting sucked in when this kind of psychological manipulation becomes ineffective
i.e. never
18:23
@JasonBerkan I don't trust paying for a game sight-unseen because of the general state of things in the market.
I can't find the good games because of the deluge of trash.
@StrixVaria If there's some good to this, it's that the casual market is starting to wake up to this manipulation, and the backlash is growing.
@StrixVaria That is my actual problem with the mobile market.
Mobile is terrible for discovery, in every sector
> Mobile is terrible.
I would be happy if I could find the types of games I want. But when the RPG section of the iOS store has EVERY GAME EVER RELEASED in it...
18:25
@JasonBerkan Play BG2
That'll keep you occupied for a long time, at least
@JasonBerkan That's more an issue with a walled garden that has low standards for entry, and lower for curation.
@JasonBerkan What kind of RPG are you looking for. ARPG? JRPG? Story driven?
@GnomeSlice Crazy Straw RPGs
I don't know what that means.
18:27
@GnomeSlice Not ARPG, especially not on a phone. I like turn based stuff. But I can't even scroll through the RPGs on iOS, because they allow everyone to claim their game is an RPG.
@JasonBerkan Not this then I guess.
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Q: Why should I sleep?

PeterCoIf you are in a room where you can buy and sell your stuff you also see a bed. Do you know any advantage if you go to bed in FC4 and sleep?

Why were my flags declined
Those are 2 chatty comments
Having +1 for title as a comment doesn't help improve anything
It doesn't contribute to the question, doesn't contribute to the answer
It's akin to someone on Facebook going "I like this!"
@memescientist Deleted.
@StrixVaria Thanks. Wish there was a way to see who denied the flags and ask them why they did so
@memescientist I can see and I will bring it up to make sure the mods are all on the same page.
18:32
Oh Paradox
That's 50% of what Sim city 5 cost at launch. We totally planned it this way. And it has twice the gameplay - at least. Enjoy.
@Wipqozn What is this about?
@StrixVaria Cities skylins has a release date and price
Looks pretty neat.
Its the city building game paradox made because they were pissed off at how terrible sim city 5 was
@Wipqozn They seem to be hitting some inconsistencies lately. Cities XXL is being called a ripoff and overpriced, but then they go and do this.
18:33
@Frank cities XXL is a different game
Made by a whole different company
@Wipqozn ...Wha? Isn't it Paradox?
@Frank Cities Skylins i.
Cities XXL and all that has nothing to do with cities Skylines
They are in no way related.
They both have the word "Cities" in the name.
That's kinda related.
March 10th.
Less than a month away.
That zoom out at the end shows a massive city.
This is made by the same guys who did the cities in motion series
18:37
Oh, the Cities XL is by Monte Cristo.
Okay, that's where the confusion was.
@Frank Yes. They could have chosen a better name,
They went with "Cities" since they also made "Cities in Motion".
@Wipqozn I'd buy it just for the thumb they're jamming in EA's eye.
But it looks to be a pretty fun game as well.
@Frank their first reveal trailer had "Play offline!" in it
@Wipqozn I know. It was great.
And they've made it pretty obvious that a large reason they made the game was because of how terrible sim city 5 was
18:43
SimCity 5 was a cynical cash in on the Maxis brand.
The best part is that if Cities Skylines take off, it'll really be a huge hit to EA
@Frank it's ea, did you expect any less?
IThey will need to step their game up if they want people to buy new sim city games, because they can no longer expect people to buy it just becaue they lack a better alternative
so they can't shit out another joke that was sim city 5
@Wipqozn It's basically screaming, "LOOK! THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD HAVE HAD! BUT NOOOOOOOOO, YOU HAD TO TREAT YOUR CUSTOMERS LIKE CRAP!"
@Wipqozn Competition: ALWAYS a win for consumers.
@MattGiltaji I actually heard the new Dragon Age game is really good, despite being by EA.
I will never know.
18:45
these are the people who put the word "goldeneye" in an fps game that had little to do with the original n64 classic, just because marketing showed that people had fond memories of the word
@MattGiltaji A guy can hope they won't ruin beloved series, can't he?
@Frank you can always hope
@StrixVaria It is.
Maybe a few slight issues here and there, but altogether a pretty solid game.
And I assume there's no non-Origin way to play it?
@StrixVaria This is the roadblock for me.
Origin only = never.
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18:48
From cities in skylines faqs
Will Skylines be online only?

No, Cities Skylines is offline. The city management calculations can be done locally on your PC so there is no requirement to play online.
@StrixVaria Sadly, no.
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@Frank I just came in here to drive-by star that.
@Wipqozn BUT WON'T PEOPLE CHEAT
@StrixVaria WHO CARES!? IT'S SINGLE PLAYER!
@Frank I'd say it's better than uPlay, but that's literally the equivalent of "it exists".
18:49
@Yuuki uPlay is almost in the exact same boat.
I hadn't realized Anno 2070 needed it, or it might not have been bought.
@StrixVaria OH ZEUS YOU'RE RIGHT W'E DOOOOOOMED
@Frank so much this
Paradox even has a section stating some features which won't be in the game. Paradox is such a good company
They're honest, which is so important.
I'm not sure why so many companies have trouble with that
@Wipqozn the do a lot of humble bundles too
If you lie, the internet will find out, and they'll be pissed.
18:51
The worst part about EA's mismanagement of SimCity is that everyone knows they were lying through their teeth about why it was online only.
The other worse part is that they still sold millions of copies, so they have no incentive to do anything different next time.
@JasonBerkan No, they have competition now.
@JasonBerkan not quite true
@JasonBerkan I'm hoping people will remember how pissed they were, and it will hurt sales of the next game.
So if they continue to be anti-consumer, SimCity as a brand will die.
18:52
they need to drop the simcity 5 servers right after 6 comes out so you are forced to switch
@MattGiltaji They already made it offline.
Okay. I'm off. Later all.
DID ANYBODY MENTION A JOKE
I AM THE JOKE POLICE
@Frank good for them
@badp it was @Wipqozn
18:56
@Frank Cities XXL was a cash grab of the Cities XL brand.
@Powerlord So I heard.
(or so I'd heard)
But it was a moot point, as it's not by the same company.
Cities XXL isn't by the same company as Cities XL?
@Powerlord i thought it was a city for even fatter people...
18:58
Cities XXL is under the Focus Home Interactive brand because they bought Monte Cristo.
Makes me wonder if one of my friends would like Cities: Skylines. He's a big fan of city builder games.
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Q: Using Logitech profiler to control the mouse on one of the sticks

toytttttt24I have been using the profiler software to set up my old logitech rumble pad 2 to work with a game that is designed for keyboard and mouse. It's great so far, the only problem is that the game needs the mouse to be the look controls. I can't handle the mouse and the controller, so I was wondering...

19:27
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Q: Monster Hunter 4 online dome Multiplayer connection error

DaywalkerAs i have to less Points to answer and/or comment this post here ( Error 006-0612, please try again later.) MH4U English Demo Online Multiplayer connection error I have to write my own question and suggestion. The most important thing is, what the hell did the developers think??? The Connection...

Why is this still a thing
Why do people do that
A question for posterity
I last posted it at midnight, so I don't think very many people saw it.
19:43
@Yuuki so spider man is joining avengers?
@Yuuki Most of my comic book knowledge comes from movies, and seeing Spider Man in a movie with any other superhero is going to be weird.
@MattGiltaji Most guesses are that he's going to be appearing in Civil War, the upcoming Captain America movie.
@MattGiltaji I would suspect that Spidey will be in Captain America 3 (and 3.5), since he's a key part of the Civil War story-line that Cap3 will be about.
So who got message 20,000,000?
@MBraedley Yeah, I'm actually kinda excited for Civil War now. I really don't think that plot would've done well without Spider-Man.
:20000000 Let's see...
Well, it's no one in here.
19:45
Oh they were spamming for it
that's basically cheating
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@Yuuki Yeah, I never read the comics, but I felt that it wouldn't be complete without Spidey.
@StrixVaria Is it really Rick-rolling if you know you're being Rick-rolled?
I hope they completely skip over the origin though. I really don't need another Spider-Man origin movie.
At any rate, chat.SE has 20 million messages and we're at 2.1 million
We're the 10%
@badp :(
Or perhaps that's good
19:49
@MBraedley It's that comfortable spot between 1% and 99%
@badp ok, let's make another room to get it to 200 million so we can be one percenters
I don't think you understand how to math
So the idiots at FedEx left a $400 package on my front step.
@KevinvanderVelden sorry, 210 million
;p
@Frank ... Did you manage to get it?
19:55
@Yuuki Yep. Went home to go put it inside.
If I was a boss, I'd definitely let someone go home if FedEx left a $400 package at their door.
Also, $400?
Gundam model?
@Yuuki D:
I'm just happy it can breathe
@Frank :D
@Yuuki Yes, I'm a geek.
19:57
@Frank That's one expensive carnival mask
@Frank I love it. I want one.
At least it came with pins
@Yuuki Although, I have one of these at this price point, too.
@Frank I don't think the PG Unicorn was that expensive
20:08
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ With the LED set, it's actually a bit more.
Never mind the Full Armor addon kit.
@Frank unchained mode with led would look pretty cool
@ʞɹɐzǝɹ I plan on deepening the red in the psycho frame. It's too light, and the LEDs are so bright, it tends to wash it out.
Also, for anyone else playing Junction Gate, do you find that it starts great, but then gets pretty simple later on?
Kittens Game at least had a ton more complexity to it.
20:28
I should get that game while it's still under $10
@SaintWacko How'd resisting Bionic Dues go for you?
@Frank Lack of money makes it easier :P
I want Bionic Dues and Darkest Dungeon
@SaintWacko No doubt. :P
I'm just playing lots of KSP
Working on my new interplanetary-class Contractor MKIII lander
I was playing Gundam Breaker 2.
20:30
@SaintWacko Darkest Dungeon isn't really in a great state for playability yet. CC @Sterno
And the my PS3 froze, and ate my savegame.
Suddenly, not so much motivation to play it anymore.
It needs a lot of balancing work, a fail state, and a victory state.
Yeah, I'd wait
I'm not sure the fail state is ever coming
I mean, Rogue Legacy didn't have one either, and that was fun. So who knows
@StrixVaria Oh, really? Alright, I'll wait
20:31
Though at least in that one, you had to make greater and greater amounts of gold to have a trip to the dungeon be worth it
Looks like a new SMW record
@Sterno That's true, but Rogue Legacy also had a lighthearted comical tone. Darkest Dungeon is supposed to be stressful.
@murgatroid99 These have been coming almost daily recently as people find better and better setups for the credits warp.
@StrixVaria This one is less than 2 minutes
@murgatroid99 I saw a sub-2 run at least a few days ago on /r/speedrun
I mean it's amazing the work being put into the game. This specific category isn't the most interesting one, to me, though.
I'm excited to see some new OoT any% records with the new trick.
20:34
It's confirmed to be ~15s faster if you get it first try.
My antennae keeps falling off
Hmmm
@SaintWacko More struts.
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@murgatroid99 That's impressive. I saw one of SethBling's attempts that clocked in at ~4min
Doesn't have dates, but it started just after AGDQ ended or so.
20:36
@StrixVaria I think that video is that last entry
Yeah yours is the most recent.
@StrixVaria I guess I missed Seth's 3:07 run
Not sure why you'd watch it now, but just in case.
Desert Bus speedrun. Go.
Is it wrong that I don't care about odd speed runs? I mean, it's cool that they can manipulate the memory via game controls, but at the end of the day, I was able to do exactly that with my Game Genie 20 years ago.
20:44
So, more of you should be playing Sunless Sea, because it is a game I would like to talk to people about
@Sterno but i like space
Sea is just wet space
@Sterno We don't talk about games here.
@StrixVaria YOU WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SPEEDRUNS FIFTEEN SECONDS AGO
20:45
@StrixVaria Not sure if I missed it or just didn't add it to my watch later queue. I wouldn't have hit it in the queue yet anyway.
sunless sea is early access?
@Rapitor no
@Sterno → 2000000 messages moved to The Android Hell.
BEEN THERE
@Sterno I'm interested in it
20:52
@Sterno Which stall were you in?
@MBraedley The handicapped one. Though I doubt that's what you were asking.
HANDICAPPED PEOPLE CAN WAIT JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE
@StrixVaria Okay, so the energy mechanic is pretty generous. It only depletes for quests, and it comes back pretty quickly.
In the meantime, you have lots to do like re-equip your team, build up your ship, that sort of stuff.

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