The Bridge

badp

19:00

@fredley This is awful indeed

fredley

By clicking that link, you're probably also a terrorist

badp

If that's "American Apparel" then I'm glad I'm not one

I mean, NSA gets to lawfully know everything about me, but at least I'm not wearing that

fredley

@badp I don't get it

Those are casio watches?

badp

Apparently it's what Americans wear

fredley

@badp OIC

badp

19:02

To be honest I remember those with individual buttons for each mathematical operation

agent86

american apparel is not.

badp

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James

@badp That finger is way too long

badp

@James British fingers

Ben Brocka

mini fing-longer

fredley

19:03

Downfall-style subtitling meme gains new target

Lazers

0

Q: How do you get the 'Rules Breaker' achievement?

I'm having trouble with one of the the miscellaneous achievements in Goscurry. RULES BREAKER | Avoid an obstacle without jumping/evading How do you do that?

goscurry

badp

@fredley now I want to know what he was actually saying

Sterno

Apparently the buffalo chicken wrap I ate for lunch was 1350 calories.

Yikes

GnomeSlice

mmmm calories

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wtf

Ben Brocka

@Sterno Was it two feet long?

GnomeSlice

19:16

I'm tempted to buy Mountain and I don't know why.

badp

Save for the Crypt of the Necrodancer!

GnomeSlice

@badp I know, that game is gonna be awesome.

Mountain, for those of you who don't know.

@LessPop_MoreFizz Do you know anything about DRM of games in the mac app store?

do they have any?

badp

A quick google search says they're locked to your apple ID.

GnomeSlice

that's what I figured

badp

btw -- ynab.me/freeforstudents

They just sent me my key :)

GnomeSlice

19:28

@badp how is that? I could probably use a budgeting software.

now that I'm living on my own

badp

I haven't really used it (I only just got the key) but @AshleyNunn has.

Ben Brocka

I just use Mint

GnomeSlice

I should be working on my resume or somethign but I'm so stressed out I don't feel like doing anything

I've been just sitting here all day

Origami Robot

@Sterno Good, now you don't have to eat as much today

Sterno

@BenBrocka It was smaller than a Chipotle burrito. I am disappointed

Ben Brocka

19:33

@Sterno wow

I'm pretty sure most footlong subs at subway are around 1000 or less even. Is it made of pure sugar and grease or what?

agent86

I BUDGET HARDCORE WITH A SPREADSHEET ITS TOO METAL FOR YOU

BRO, DO YOU EVEN SUM()?

Ben Brocka

I have some auto-budgets in mint but I just ignore them. I send $X of my paycheck into checking each week and I just spend out of that. Have only had to widthdraw from savings a few times so far (usually due to insurance or stuff)

badp

I don't have an income so I kinda shoulda be more careful

GnomeSlice

wtf Warp needs Origin?

badp

although I do have a family to back me up and almost no personal expenses

GnomeSlice

19:39

How did I never know that

UGH

Origami Robot

I just move anything left over in my checking to savings when I get my next paycheck.

Except now I've been moving it to my car loan instead

Sterno

@BenBrocka Yeah. Even with mayo, most of them clock in around 900

Ben Brocka

I just let the balance build up since there's usually crap like insurance that suddenly takes out more than usual a couple times a year

Sterno

I have no idea what was on this. It was just chicken, buffalo sauce, and probably blue cheese

But apparently they make calorie babies when they all get together

Frank

sigh Previous programmer, why must you let such obvious deficiencies slip through into production?

GnomeSlice

19:43

I save up money but then I spend it on shit like goat simulator

Frank

If you're going to make an attempt to bind fields to controls, please try to ensure there's an actual row in the database to bind it to.

Origami Robot

Since I really want to have my car paid off by the two year mark, I'm probably going to put like $500 from my 2nd paycheck each month straight towards that to force myself to be more frugal

GnomeSlice

Whoa, the IronClad Tactics soundtrack is by the same guy who did the SpaceChem one.

Awesome.

jamendo.com/en/artist/3284/evan-le-ny

user15026

@badp ynab is great. I should, now that I have a job and have money to budget and all of that, go back to using it.

GnomeSlice

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user58869

19:56

@GnomeSlice what is this?

StrixVaria

@GnomeSlice Accurate.

Ben Brocka

this will surely be the angstiest superman/batman movie ever

(the hug is photoshoped the poses aren't)

user58869

suggestive

Frank

Somebody didn't learn how to drive properly.

Ben Brocka

@Frank I hate when that happens

Frank

20:01

@BenBrocka Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing, as you can't even call a tow truck to get you out.

Although, it's a pretty sweet window grab. Bonus points for not crashing onto the road below.

Well, it's not drama, but there might be some conspiracy going on here:

-8

Q: Are hidden agendas tolerated on social networks?

Are some admin(s) or security monitoring people building evidences on social networks, causing situations on users, situations that would never happen without the admin(s) or the monitoring people intervening? Hidden languages? Hidden codes? Not respecting the purpose of the software, the website...

discussion user-accounts security legal social-networking

GnomeSlice

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@BenBrocka this seems like something you would be interested in

user58869

@GnomeSlice reminds of

user58869

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GnomeSlice

development has been moving along as a good clip

@Alex Wow, that's oldschool.

Yuuki

@BenBrocka Batman looks fatter than most depictions in that picture.

Ben Brocka

20:17

yeah he's a bit pouchy and the mask makes him look really soft, especially the "ears"

and they both generally look like they're going to go home and listen to Linkin Park

Powerlord

So that Timescape game is apparently fully funded now

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord Timescape? Or Timespinner

Powerlord

@GnomeSlice Timespinner. I always forget its name

GnomeSlice

Yeah, they got funded really fast.

It's all about marketing.

Inexistence looked just as good but they didn't even come close.

Frank

@Powerlord Yeah, that looks good.

Even though it's a massive Castlevania/Megaman ripoff.

Ben Brocka

20:23

google.com/killer-robots.txt

Powerlord

@Frank That's WHY it did so well

Ben Brocka

Well if Konami won't/can't make 'em anymore...

Not sure what konami really does anymore, other than bad soccer game, already dead Castlevania reboot no one asked for and of course Metal Gear Solid

GnomeSlice

@Powerlord kickstarter.com/projects/714585684/…

Seems like they're still making the game though, which is good.

Ben Brocka

@GnomeSlice Hmmm...I wonder how well non-USD projects do in general

GnomeSlice

I don't think it makes a huge difference, but I could be wrong.

They didn't do a very good job promoting that one.

Ben Brocka

20:29

Oh hey, PS4 goal for Timespinner, should be a surprising amount of Metroidvanias on PS4 before long

GnomeSlice

There's already a demo I should try. indiedb.com/games/inexistence/downloads

Ben Brocka

...and, you know, almost none on Nnitendo platforms, which is a bit odd

Guess there's still Shantae

Lazers

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Q: xenonauts air cobat auto resolve option is not available

I played Xenonauts for a couple of hours on a windows PC and I was able to use the "autoresolve" option for the basic repetitive air combat scenarios. Now, after finding a mac version (from Desura) there is no auto-resolve option available at all. Is this a bug, or am I simply missing the optio...

xenonauts

0

Q: Witcher 2 Knowledge about monsters

When I kill some monsters it finally show me in right bottom corner 3/3 I know its supposed to compensate books which should give me knowledge about monsters which I should see in journal but it doesn't show anything and I still need book. Any Ideas ?

the-witcher-2

0

Q: What's the most efficient way to travel with your lamp lit?

In Sunless Sea, you'll travel to exotic places in a steamboat, meet new and exciting denizens, and then die in some gristly manner or another. I'm curious about the "travel" part: you can go fast or slow, and I'd like to know which method is more efficient (in money-per-distance terms) when you h...

sunless-sea

Ben Brocka

Crytek UK staff (that haven't been paid in months) stopped showing up to work

They seem...pretty fucked if all this isn't an amazingly detailed and well-corroborated hoax

GnomeSlice

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user58869

20:33

what a lovely day it was today

Lazers

0

Q: Mun Numbers and Data in Ksp?

On Kerbal Space Program, even with using plugins, I can never find exact numbers, like Delta V, distance, or angle needed to reach the Mun. Does anyone know these numbers?

kerbal-space-program

Ben Brocka

> One person familiar with the studio estimates that around 100 people have left, though it's unclear how many people plan to leave permanently and how many would like to stay with Crytek UK, which has been consistently losing staff for the past few months.

GnomeSlice

:/

Ben Brocka

Some crazy decisions going on, would be interested to hear exactly what has (and will) happen here

For example they clung to the Ryse IP when MS wanted it for Ryse 2. Ryse isn't worth nothing to 'em, might as well make Ryse 2 and get some money for pete's sake

GnomeSlice

My resumé sucks

badp

20:47

@AshleyNunn I wish I could have a budget in € and I'd say "I spent $1" and it'd do the right thing

Jason Berkan

@badp Without access to your bank, I don't see how that would even be possible.

badp

@JasonBerkan historical currency rates + I know how much my bank will charge me for the privilege (1.5%)

Ben Brocka

Mint simply gets read-only access to accounts you want it to have access to

Jason Berkan

@badp So you're just looking for an approximation? Doesn't the exchange rate change daily?

Ben Brocka

if I had to manually input stuff like I did my first year at this job...yeah no I wouldn't do it

badp

20:50

@JasonBerkan For future payments, yeah. For past payments, no.

Lazers

-1

Q: Best way to kill the WoF?

I am so close to reaching Hardmode, but I can't beat the Wall Of Flesh (or WoF). My method was an extremely long bridge at the WoF's eye level, about 2.5 stacks of dirt long, and a minishark-waterbolt-demon scythe combo. I always get so close to killing him, then I die from health because of darn...

terraria

badp

I know I'll pay $1.99 on the 14th for Google storage

user58869

i'm having some hot peppery sauce on my food, are there any other hot sauce lovers out there?

badp

On the 14th, I know how much € that will be

GnomeSlice

@Alex Eh, not really a fan.

user58869

20:51

oh ok

Frank

@Alex @TrentHawkins

badp

For now that means putting a recurring transaction for ~€1.48 and then hoping I remember to set it right monthly

Doing things sistematically being what computers are made to do

Jason Berkan

True, but what you want requires a lot of moving parts, which is where computer systems fail miserably. Frankly, you'd be double checking the computer's number 90% of the time, so you may as well just type it in.

badp

uh

I still don't see the complication

Ben Brocka

I would much rather just actually track what's going on with my bank account

Jason Berkan

20:55

@badp Is the exchange rate your bank uses for a given day accessible by a computer program? I don't think mine is.

badp

@JasonBerkan It's the nominal one (the one Google gives me) + 1.5%

so yes

The only input is "1.5%"

If you're using Paypal, that's +3%

GnomeSlice

art.gif

badp

It's trivial to determine. See how much you paid in $, how much you paid in €, what the "fair" conversion was, determine the % difference.

Check it on a couple more transactions to be sure.

The truth is that I'm afraid those currency conversion rates are EULAd away from most practical uses unless you pay $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

because fuck you that's why

Jason Berkan

Exactly. Google is not a web service. Plus the Bank of Canada gives me Noon, Close and Average for the USD -> CAD exchange. No idea what my bank uses (or my credit card, which is different).

badp

Whichever one Google uses.

Just compare the numbers to the query result for "USD 1 to CAD" (or viceversa)

This is absolutely not rocket science. Also saying that "Google is not a web service" is... funny although I understand what you meant by that.

Jason Berkan

21:01

Google is also rounding. 1.06 vs 1.0639.

badp

That said there's openexchangerates.org

Jason Berkan

@badp Sorry. Web developer speaking.

badp

Goes all the way to 1999 apparently

Of course the T&Cs include dumb statements like:

> You must not establish a link to our site in any website that is not owned by you.

Origami Robot

Why is it so hot today? :(

badp

I hope they're legally unenforceable

Jason Berkan

21:05

@OrigamiRobot Because the sun?

Origami Robot

The sun is an ass!

Jason Berkan

We're finally scheduled for some sun after getting a month's worth of rain in a two day period.

Origami Robot

You Canadians would probably melt.

90F (32C)

Jason Berkan

It gets that hot here. I think that's the forecast high for tomorrow.

Actually, Saturday is 31C.

Frank

@OrigamiRobot It's not there today, but 32C is more or less normal for summer.

GnomeSlice

21:07

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Jason Berkan

Hotter than 33 or 34 is very rare, though.

Origami Robot

100+ isn't uncommon at times

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Silly robot, that's boiling temperature.

Origami Robot

Oh, don't forget the 65% humidity today as well

Jason Berkan

The record high for July 3 is 33.9 and the record low is 1.1.

Lazers

21:09

-2

Q: I need throwing beans please!

Please exchange friend codes so I can get throwing beans please? I have seen if my other friends have had it, but they don't.

animal-crossing-new-leaf

Frank

Our current forecast is supposed to hit 40C with the humidity on Saturday.

Origami Robot

90F, feels like 101F :(

GnomeSlice

@Frank Jesus

Origami Robot

@GnomeSlice We can get that temperature without humidity.

GnomeSlice

Yeah, I know. I live in Canada too.

Still, it's pretty bad for us.

badp

21:15

Speaking of humidity

Origami Robot

That's not even fair

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot It's not a contest.

badp

Origami Robot

Everything is a contest.

Jason Berkan

Deciding if this is a contest is a contest.

Origami Robot

21:16

A contest I'll win!

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Anything above 30C is grounds for sealing the house and blasting the AC.

GnomeSlice

not too bad

Origami Robot

I don't have my AC on right now

I only turn it on when I'm sleeping

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Doesn't your computer overheat in 30+ conditions?

Origami Robot

Heck if I know

Frank

21:20

Even with the AC on, I know @TrentHawkins' computer overheats. I believe it has something to do with where it is, granted, but it's still somewhat of an issue.

Origami Robot

It doesn't turn off.

GnomeSlice

How bad is my resumé ?

why are you people downloading it

Origami Robot

Looks blank to me, so, bad

GnomeSlice

you can view it right in the thing

@OrigamiRobot uh... shouldn't be

Origami Robot

Oh, it downloaded a PDF and showed a blank webpage

GnomeSlice

21:21

what

you can't view it right in the thing?

??

Origami Robot

no

GnomeSlice

you should be able to, wtf is wrong with your browser

Origami Robot

You need more about education

GnomeSlice

My education is worthless

I'm applying for like grocery store jobs

Origami Robot

You still have to put it on there

GnomeSlice

21:23

also I didn't actually learn anything from my degree

What should I add?

jmp.sh/PNywMnp

There, that one should work in browser for sure.

Origami Robot

I guess you don't need more, just make it look not as shitty

Formatting-wise

GnomeSlice

Ugh, how.

I went to an employment center like a year ago and they made that for me pretty much

My multimedia resume looks much nicer

but it's generated by Behance

Origami Robot

Also, your GPA

GnomeSlice

and I can't really tailor it away from multimedia

@OrigamiRobot I don't even know what it was

Origami Robot

Look on your transcript

GnomeSlice

21:27

my what

uhh

Ronan Forman

You put your education because it shows you can commit to something for a long enough period of time to get a qualification.

Origami Robot

Personally, I'd have Education as the first thing

Besides Objective/Summary ofc

@RonanForman This

GnomeSlice

my 'objective' is bad

I don't even know where to get my transcripts

I'm sure I have this information somewhere

I graduated over a year ago

and have done nothing with my life since then

Ronan Forman

You can keep your education and past jobs from the other resume.

Or at least the jobs, the skills you learnt will be slightly different.

GnomeSlice

when I went to the employment place they told me I should do a skill based resume because I have no work experience

Ronan Forman

21:33

I'd go with their advice.

They probably know more than a 1st year university student.

GnomeSlice

is it completely terrible in its current state?

Ronan Forman

I have no idea, résumés are different to CVs.

Arperum

Gah. I want to go to this, but it's way too friggin pricey :(

Also, I'd need to get to the US for it somehow.

Jason Berkan

@GnomeSlice I think you are over-thinking it. Grocery store / fast food / whatever jobs run off of in-store applications, do they not? You just need to fill out as many as possible and get lucky with timing. Then, work your butt off in order to impress them.

Ronan Forman

Thank @badp I'm making all the typos today.

GnomeSlice

21:39

idk maybe

@JasonBerkan It's bad timing right now, middle of summer

badp

@RonanForman @Arperum is sharing some of the burden

Arperum

@badp Thank you for fixing that. If you are going to fix every error I make, you'll have a ton of work though...

badp

Mod abuse is a force for good!

You can pay back by hunting for typos on the site :P

James

Was that whole mod abuse thing about the Camping question?

Frank

@James Yep

StrixVaria

21:44

@GnomeSlice Come up with a good answer for what you did in that time for when you have interviews.

James

@Frank Why are all the weird quetsions the ones that end up on the hot topic list.. I was over on SO looking up a coding question when I saw it :D

StrixVaria

They will probably ask about that.

GnomeSlice

@StrixVaria Oh jeez

um

I literally did nothing

I hate even thinking about it

I wasted a year of my life

because I was too scared to go out and do anything

Frank

@James Because it's the controversial questions that get the most views and votes.

It's the nature of a community.

If it generates drama, it gets attention.

James

@Frank Nice, Guess that is why one question got closed in 13min while another one that is clearly a duplicate is still looking for more votes.

badp

21:45

I think it's more like it's somewhat of an easier question. Easier questions tend to attract more attention.

More people think they can answer it, and click through, and vote on things.

James

@badp Yeah that was why I went, then I saw @StrixVaria's answer and went. Damn! :D

Frank

@badp Only sometimes. This is one of those rather aggravating mod abuse situations that shouldn't ever happen.

As regular users literally have no recourse to address the situation.

James

@Frank We can vote to open and while I agree maybe the mods should have waited for the votes, That question should be open and answered.

badp

Please forgive me for sounding arrogant, but I think the aggravation is all yours @Frank

Frank

@badp Yeah, because I have no options.

My input was disregarded as invalid.

Anyone who has their decisions disregarded is going to feel annoyed.

James

21:50

We just went fro a shift in the last year or so from passive mods to active mods.. I will note I voted for all the people who said they would be passive but [shrug] this is what we voted for :)

badp

Well, @Arperum happens to be here.

GnomeSlice

My God people, why are there so many of these

James

I do think we should be able to Unvote people, seems odd its a life time appointment

Frank

@James It's so the job isn't a popularity contest.

Which I get, and agree with.

badp

@James This can happen, but the mods have to fuck up or give up.

Mana for one gave up.

Frank

21:51

But it does leave us with no-win situations where regular users are outweighed by mods.

James

@Frank I do not think that has changed that being that man.

@Frank I am pretty sure you can vote to close the question again if you wanted cant you?

badp

That said, Ashley checked in with other mods before clicking that button

Frank

@James Nope. One close vote is all you get per question.

James

I mean they could open it again but any mod worth their salt should leave a question closed by the community after they opened it up again alone.

Jason Berkan

@Frank Only five of you. Convince another five to vote to close.

James

21:52

Oh.. well thats a bit broken

Frank

@JasonBerkan That's the problem.

The paradigm is broken.

It shouldn't take ten users to reverse the decision of a mod.

I would have absolutely no issue whatsoever if the community had reopened it.

I'd grumble, but that's fine.

badp

I'll point out that there is not even a sixth vote to close whereas my comment has six upvotes, so if you're keeping count that's -5/+7

Arperum

@badp I don't agree with the reopening, but since by now at least four people have said to reopen (in chat that I remember) of wich three were mods. So that results in a four-five situation, wich is still balanced towards keeping it closed, but much less so.

Frank

What I specifically take issue with is mods automatically assuming I don't know my ass from my head and overriding mine and four others' decision.

Grace Note

...hooboy.

badp

21:54

@Frank First off, I hardly think it was personal.

Frank

@badp A mod-reopen is a much heavier vote than a community reopen.

@badp It doesn't matter whether it was or not.

Grace Note

Okay, here we go. Let's get some points out in neutral space first.

Frank

It had ten minutes to be closed.

Arperum

@GraceNote Welcome to drama.

badp

I love how Grace can command our attention so completely :D

James

21:56

@badp Pft, I went back to work before Grace showed up :D

Frank

This was mod abuse, and my arguing of it resulted in being punted from the room.

And as a sidenote, I don't mind defending my viewpoint, but I'm not going to tackle three people taking different aspects of my argument.

badp

My fingers are burning but I'll let Grace take her turn.

James

@badp With this much delay I am fearing the wall o text a coming.

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