The Bridge

James

7:00 PM

@Chippies Overly Attached Spammer! Overly Attached Spammer? Overly Attached Spammer!?

Chippies

@James it's actually from different email addresses

Arperum

@Chippies like that matters.

Origami Robot

@Frank THAT'S NOT WHAT PROFIT MARGIN MEANS

Chippies

@Arperum well I would assume it's not a single person phishing, some of those emails seem like legit personal mails, unless they're hacked.

James

@Chippies Sounds stalkerish to me man.. Should try and get a restraining order :)

Origami Robot

7:02 PM

ALSO I MEANT (SELL-COST)/SELL

Frank

@OrigamiRobot You're the one doing profit margin.

I'm doing straight profit.

Sterno

@Arperum What was the nerf?

Origami Robot

@Frank IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU GET MORE IF YOU'RE PUTTING MORE IN

Frank

@OrigamiRobot And getting more out.

Arperum

@Sterno loooooong ago. +att speed was completely and utterly OP, it was the only nerf they even activated on existing items.

AATTVVV

7:03 PM

@Sterno A while back they retroactively scaled back attack speed even on existing items.

Origami Robot

@Frank DOES "GET MORE" MEAN SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

Frank

@Arperum Yeah. It kinda sucked, though.

Sterno

Oh, so they didn't nerf how it worked, they just lowered the amount you get

Most of my damage comes from attack speed (due to frenzy) which seems like the worst way

Unless all those skills that do "1000% weapon damage" factor weapon speed in

Frank

@OrigamiRobot The amount of profit you're getting is higher. It doesn't take margins into account.

AATTVVV

@Sterno Attack speed, crit damage, crit chance, base damage, and main stat all work in conjunction.

Arperum

7:04 PM

@Sterno yup, you got ridiculous amounts on items.

AATTVVV

If you stack all of one thing your damage will suck.

If you spread it out among all the stats your damage skyrockets.

Sterno

I don't so much stack it as Frenzy gives me a ton of it

I need more crit damage I think

AATTVVV

@Sterno Since you get so much from Frenzy you're better off with other stats on items then.

That's all I meant.

Sterno

Yeah. I don't like it when the comparison thing tells me -damage% when it's really +damage% due to Frenzy

though I understand that would near impossible for them to account for

Chippies

Wow, I just found out that I got a free copy of WoW and TBC and WotLK expansions, but I missed it. Awesome >.> puu.sh/7k5gX.jpg

Sterno

7:07 PM

@Chippies That is awesome. You have avoided the evil.

Chippies

they even extended the time to claim for a month. Too bad it ended a year ago

Origami Robot

@Frank WHAT IS BETTER, SPENDING $50 AND GETTING $100 OR SPENDING $5000 AND GETTING $5050? THE PROFIT IS $50 EITHER WAY.

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Whichever way gives me more cash.

MBraedley

@OrigamiRobot margins are more important in general

spugsley

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I've been on the phone with fucking hospital billing FOREVER

Origami Robot

7:10 PM

@Frank THEY ARE BOTH THE SAME AMOUNT OF RAW PROFIT.

AATTVVV

@OrigamiRobot Spending $50 and getting $100 is objectively better.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot you have to take into account how easy it is to sell a lot of something for less to get higher profit vs selling less of something for more to get smaller profit

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Then your analogy is flawed, because you're missing the fact that I get MORE profit at higher tiers.

Yes, I spend more, but I also get more.

badp

@OrigamiRobot They're exactly the same. It's much better to spend a hundred times $50 and getting a hundred times $100

AATTVVV

@Frank Do you get more as a percentage of what you spend?

Garan

7:11 PM

@OrigamiRobot Why not buy 100 of the $50 stuff and get $5000?

Origami Robot

@Frank I'M SAYING IT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE PERCENTAGE IS LOWER

Frank

6 mins ago, by Frank

@OrigamiRobot The amount of profit you're getting is higher. It doesn't take margins into account.

AATTVVV

When you're trying to think about profit efficiency, you have to think of gains as a percentage of spent.

Frank

@OrigamiRobot I'm saying it does.

AATTVVV

@Frank no wrong

Chippies

7:11 PM

if @Frank can sell 5 items in few minutes and get profit X and you have to sell 500 items to reach profit X, over time, @Frank might profit more

badp

IOW it's better to get a million times $1 than it is to get $100 a thousand times

Frank

@OrigamiRobot You're missing all the rest of the equation. Time, mainly.

AATTVVV

If you have $1,000,000 to invest, and you invest $1,000,000 once to get back $1,000,050, that's not as good as if you invest $50 20,000 times and getting back $2,000,000 (to use @OrigamiRobot's numbers).

Yes, you get a huge lump payment of $1,000,050 in one case, vs. a ton of tiny payments of $100, but so what.

Chippies

@AATTVVV investing $50 20,000 times seems extremely time consuming

AATTVVV

@Chippies I doubt it's as extreme as this.

Chippies

7:13 PM

I don't think the difference in profit is as extreme either

AATTVVV

But this clearly illustrates the concept of ROI is a thing that is important and if you're trying to go for profit and not accounting for it you're doing it wrong.

Origami Robot

@AATTVVV THIS

Wipqozn

@AATTVVV This is what I was about to say. That one time investment has a huge opporutnity cost associated with it. If you only make $5 off of that $1, 000, 000 there was probably a better way to spend that money.

Chippies

@OrigamiRobot's equation doesn't include time

Arperum

@AATTVVV but if you calculate in time, chances are that half of your 20,000 investments end up resulting in a loss if the market is volatile enough.

Frank

7:15 PM

@Arperum Or not selling at all.

Arperum

@Frank Basically a net loss of 100%.

Lazers

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Q: Multiple game modes on one server

I'm about to start a Minecraft server, and I'd like to mimic some of the mechanics of a few larger servers on which I have played. For example I'd like to be able to set local game modes, so that one biome may be a survival area, while another is creative. I've been trying to find a way to do thi...

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Q: Is Squall killed at the end of disc 1?

In Final Fantasy 8, there is a theory that Squall is killed at the end of Disc 1 and everything following that scene is actually a "flashing before his eyes" moment as he falls and dies. At the end of disc one, Squall and Friends face Edea on a parade float in Deling City. After the fight, ...

final-fantasy-8

Origami Robot

IF YOU'RE GOING TO FACTOR IN TIME, YOU ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT PRODUCTION TIME

Chippies

if you can sell 5 items for 200$ in 1 day or 500 items for 3$ in 2 days, then over time first would be more profitable

although per item, profit in second case is much higher

Sterno

You guys should just ask about this on Yahoo! Answers and be done with it.

Arperum

7:19 PM

@OrigamiRobot True.

Frank

@OrigamiRobot And market volatility at higher tiers is lower.

Which makes it a steadier place to invest in.

Arperum

@Sterno I suggest you stop suggesting yahoo answers as a solution to everything. It sounds dirty.

Origami Robot

@Frank BUT IT ALSO TAKES LONGER TO PRODUCE HIGHER TIERS WHICH GIVE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR FLUXUATION

Frank

@OrigamiRobot And since there are less items to sell, it also is less vulnerable to said volatility.

Sterno

@Wipqozn Your last 5 removals have been @FAE.

AATTVVV

7:21 PM

@Sterno Isn't there a Personal Finance.SE?

We could probably get an answer there...

Sterno

@Arperum Not yahoo answers. Yahoo! Answers.

Origami Robot

SADLY, TIME TO SELL IS A STATISTIC WE DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Indeed.

All we have to go on is current value, average last ten trades, and average day's trade

Wipqozn

@Sterno @FAE is the worst.

Origami Robot

WE COULD TECHNICALLY CALCULATE PRODUCTION TIME, BUT WITHOUT TIME TO SELL, THAT WOULD JUST SKEW THE STATISTICS IN FAVOR OF THE LOWER TIERS

Chippies

7:25 PM

so caps lock
wow

3ventic

Needs android hell

Chippies

Blizzard wants a photo ID with my address and country displayed to change the country for battle.net account... sigh

Braiam

1 hour ago, by Origami Robot

@Frank I'M NOT YELLING I'M JUST USING AUTOCAD

Chippies

why does everything have to be so complicated

spugsley

@Frank @Sterno @TimStone @Wipqozn I have a baby treasure goblin that follows me everywhere now!!!! :D

Sterno

7:27 PM

@spugsley has a baby!

Tim Stone

:OOO

Frank

@spugsley Is he a beatable loot pinata?

spugsley

@Frank no :) He picks up regular items and after 15 he drops a rare with a chance for a legendary

Puzzle Ring!

@Sterno A BABY FULL OF SWEET, SWEET LOOT

Frank

@spugsley Heh. Found one of those, did you?

Wipqozn

@spugsley That's fantastic.

Sterno

7:28 PM

@spugsley Most babies are only full of poo.

Wipqozn

I didn't even know that thing existed.

spugsley

@Frank yes and it wasn't a huge hit to my stats :)

in fact my toughness went up a LOT

Wipqozn

Congrats on being a father @IanPugsley!

2

spugsley

@Wipqozn omg

@Wipqozn DON'T STAR THAT PEOPLE WILL THINK THIS IS REAL

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Sadly, time is a critical factor, as you found yesterday with your rubies.

Wipqozn

7:29 PM

@spugsley Star it harder you say?

MORE STARS

Grace Note

Jul 22 '13 at 16:47, by Ben Brocka

#RoyalSpugsleyBaby

Ben Brocka

spugsley

@BenBrocka HE'S SO BEAUTIFUL

Sterno

Where are pins when you need them?

Wipqozn

Well, I'm off to home. Congrats again on the baby, @spugsley.

spugsley

7:32 PM

@Wipqozn I hate you.

Wipqozn

@Sterno See, if I was still a room owner I could pin one of those.

SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE @FAE!?

@spugsley Thanks, I try.

Grace Note

I could fix it.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote By adding a pin yourself?

MBraedley

@spugsley I was going to say "@spugsley's pregnant?" but that's apparently not true.

agent86

@spugsley spugly babby pls

spugsley

7:33 PM

@MBraedley you should know better

@agent86 NO SPUGLY AND NO BABBY

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Or making you owner.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote That would be the perfect solution, but I assume trickery is involved.

MBraedley

@spugsley Although I could say "Get on that @IanPugsley!"

Frank

@GraceNote Or me.

agent86

@spugsley pics or we assume it happened and taunt you mercilessly. take pictures of EVERYWHERE so we know you didn't hide a baby.

Frank

7:34 PM

I haven't abused the star list in ever so long.

Fluttershy

@GraceNote Or meeee!

MBraedley

(sits waiting for glare)

spugsley

@MBraedley :/

Stack Exchange

agent86 has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

spugsley

@agent86 I am going to murder your face.

agent86

7:35 PM

you have seconds. use them well.

Fluttershy

:((((

Stack Exchange

Wipqozn has removed FAE from the list of this room's owners.

Sterno

He just said he was going home.

Frank

I feel like starring those messages just because.

Stack Exchange

Wipqozn has added Sterno to the list of this room's owners.

Fluttershy

7:35 PM

:O

Stack Exchange

Grace Note has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

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Sterno

But he apparently lied!

agent86

and the dream is dead

Lazers

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Q: Mabinogi talent probs

Um, I've played mabinogi for a while now, and I'm just wondering, I'm lvl 61 but still have a brown box around my talent. Shouldn't it be silvery? My talent is Fighter, and shouldn't I have the title of "Apprentice Fighter" instead of "Naive Fighter"? I hope someone can explain this for me. Than...

mabinogi

Wipqozn

Okay, I need to head off for reals.

agent86

7:36 PM

@spugsley my face? nooooooooooOOOOOOOOOooooooooo...ooo.....o

Ben Brocka

@spugsley super friendly too, best cat

Grace Note

@Wipqozn No trickery was planned.

James

Ben Brocka

@Lazers well that's a surprisingly bad fan theory.

@James looks like he's coming down from a bad trip

badp

@BenBrocka I thought that was the only kind of fan theory

James

7:38 PM

@BenBrocka She :)

Ben Brocka

@badp No, bad is the only kind of fan theory. But this one is surprisingly bad, moreso than usual

GnomeSlice

So verifying files on Steam doesn't work any more.

thxz valve

No way am I uninstalling this and reinstalling it.

Fluttershy

@GnomeSlice What game?

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Loadout.

Verifying files doesn't work for anything though.

Loadout has been freezing constantly lately

since a couple updates ago

and losing connection

but when it just freezes for 5 seconds at a time, it's pretty hard to win

Sterno

You should get some Internet.

GnomeSlice

7:41 PM

@Sterno It's not my internet.

Been verifying the files for 10 minutes now and it's still at 0%

Doesn't work any more

Hasn't for some time.

Whoa, what, congratulations @spugsley!

spugsley

@GnomeSlice NO NO AND NO

GnomeSlice

@spugsley ?

spugsley

PERMALINKS ARE YOUR FRIENDS

GnomeSlice

Oh, was it a joke

=[

spugsley

@GnomeSlice if it's the word baby and it's in the same sentence as my name it is ALWAYS a joke

Sterno

7:47 PM

@spugsley SUCCESS

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Well idk, you're married, and babies are what married people make

AATTVVV

CC @OrigamiRobot

spugsley

@GnomeSlice I would make negative babies if that was a thing that was possible

Fluttershy

@AATTVVV So much better than my weapon. :(

Sterno

@spugsley It is, but they lock you up for it.

spugsley

7:48 PM

@Sterno because I live in NC?

Yuki

@spugsley I'm getting D3!

AATTVVV

@Fluttershy Are you even level 60?

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Because murder...

spugsley

@Yuki FUN!!!!!

Yuki

When the xpac comes out though.

spugsley

7:49 PM

@GnomeSlice bah semantics

Jason Berkan

@spugsley Getting married and not having babies is negative population in the long run. 2 people die, no new people replace them, so -2 people.

Fluttershy

@AATTVVV Not yet! Working on it. I'm... 45 or 46?

spugsley

@JasonBerkan the world needs less population. For reals. That's a thing.

AATTVVV

@Fluttershy Nice. What class?

Jason Berkan

@spugsley I'm aware. (Says the guy with 4 kids.)

spugsley

7:50 PM

@JasonBerkan Well you're 2 over population so I can just share yours

Sterno

@spugsley I think baby murder is outlawed pretty much everywhere.

You know, assuming they've exited the womb, which is how I'm defining "baby" here

Chippies

@Sterno once they've left the womb they're on their own.

GnomeSlice

50 more games greenlit yesterday

Sterno

THAT THERE IS A LIST OF GREENLIT GAMES

Fluttershy

@AATTVVV Monk.

AATTVVV

7:52 PM

@Fluttershy Another good reason for me not to use my Monk.

So many other Monks around.

GnomeSlice

Project Temporailty finally got some media coverage.

Sterno

The real question is how Dino Storm compares to Orion: Dino Horde

GnomeSlice

I wish 'like portal' wasn't something people had to say to get attention.

Sterno

I wish you didn't hate Portal so much for no reason.

GnomeSlice

@Sterno I really like Portal.

user20683

7:53 PM

►

user20683

Apparently this is an actual thing

GnomeSlice

@WorldEngineer fake

Sterno

Do you have a problem with the term "rogue-like"? Because that means "like Rogue". And it's way more annoying than the Portal comparison

GnomeSlice

@WorldEngineer It's a hoax.

> It's Like Portal, But Instead of a Portal Gun, You Get Time Travel

user20683

@GnomeSlice Prove it

GnomeSlice

7:53 PM

It's not like portal.

Fluttershy

@AATTVVV A team of monks could be pretty OP.

3ventic

►

GnomeSlice

@WorldEngineer techcrunch.com/2014/03/04/…

@Sterno games should be able to stand on their own merit without needing 'ALSO IT'S LEIK PORTAL GUISE' thrown in there

Yuki

user20683

@GnomeSlice Fine but don't fact check with tech crunch. That's just...amateurish.

spugsley

7:55 PM

guys can we unpin the baby thing? I don't mind a joke but I really don't want to pinged all day with people thinking I'm pregnant

thank you <3

GnomeSlice

Thanks for unstarring my thing too

I thought it was legit

AATTVVV

@Fluttershy Or just 1 monk with 4 pieces of Inna's set, since that gives all mantras at all times now.

GnomeSlice

Losers

spugsley

@GnomeSlice I know, that's why I don't want it up there hahaha

Fluttershy

@AATTVVV That's pretty crazy.

user20683

7:56 PM

@GnomeSlice Calling me a loser is a bad idea.

user20683

a very, very bad idea.

GnomeSlice

@WorldEngineer What?

The thanks was sincere

The 'losers' are the people who made me think Spugsley was pregnant and get all excited

user20683

@GnomeSlice Spugsley asked for all babies = gone

GnomeSlice

38 secs ago, by GnomeSlice

The thanks was sincere

AATTVVV

@WorldEngineer You with the mod abuse again?

spugsley

7:58 PM

@WorldEngineer @GnomeSlice thought it was legit. He isn't calling you out, he's calling out the people who took the joke too far

AATTVVV

Please, respectfully leave the mod activity in this room to mods on Arqade.

GnomeSlice

@spugsley I was all happy for you. =[

jk, you'd be a terrible mom

you'd punch your child too much

spugsley

@GnomeSlice lol I know right

GnomeSlice

;_;

Ullallulloo

dotabuff.com/matches/549784456

Tim Stone

7:59 PM

@Yuki I've been trying to figure out what it's a marketing gimmick for but I'm not sure; maybe Nike's releasing a new series of Back to the Future shoes, heh.

spugsley

@GnomeSlice idk I don't think I'd punch my child just all of my child's eventual friends

GnomeSlice

@spugsley Coolest mom ever

Raise your kid as a wimp so that you can punch the kids that inevitably bully him

Sterno

@WorldEngineer Are you going with actual outrage here, or ominous and maniacal goatee stroking while cackling?

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