The Bridge

Ben Brocka

1:02 PM

Xbox One is launching Nov. 22 http://sbn.to/15ysJSP

Tweeted by Polygon on September 4, 2013 at 1:02 PM

FEichinger

@BenBrocka That's a week after NA PS4, and a week before ROW PS4

Ben Brocka

PS4 has the weird staggered launch too then?

I guess they don't even have a JP release date quite yet for PS4

fbueckert

Good morning, Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

Morning

Sterno

1:23 PM

I'm going to buy one console, regret my decision, buy the other, and then play neither.

5pike

@BenBrocka Does a cell-shaded game really need a HD remake?

Sterno

The Wind Waker remake would feel better if it weren't a full-priced title.

From the screenshots it still looks kind of meh graphically

5pike

If you run out of ideas - make a remake

Sterno

I'm all for remakes, actually. I wish more old games I loved had remakes

5pike

Define "old"

Private Pansy

1:27 PM

Is Haskell actually used in production?

5pike

I also love remakes, but these remakes should be for games Ps1 era downwards.

And not PS2 upwards

Ben Brocka

@5pike Sort of; the better resolution and AA will make the game look better. I don't think it needs the bloom and it won't benefit as much from new textures

Proper 16:9 and better res would be worth a $20-$30 remake to me, but like @Sterno I wish it weren't full price

@5pike well they already have OoT 3D and the new LttP is like half remake half sequel since it's largely the same map

Sterno

@5pike @sterno

Ben Brocka

Age will be measured in Sternos

5pike

But, how long is a Sterno?

Ben Brocka

1:31 PM

Old

FEichinger

@5pike Twelve OrigamiRobots.

5pike

T-T

FEichinger

Which are twelve kalinas each.

5pike

How long in parsec?

fredley

@FEichinger An @OrigamiRobot is worth 12 @kalina?

Sterno

1:32 PM

@5pike That's kind of a personal question.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka If I had bought the original, I'd probably be right there with you.

Sadly, my console ownership only really started with the Wii, and Wind Waker was one title I never picked up.

FEichinger

@fredley I'm thinking about renaming OrigamiRobots, what with him being a robot and all, but yes.

kalina

I hope you realise the impact twelve of me would have on the planet

FEichinger

@kalina Why, but noone wants to clone you. You're just a unit of age now.

fredley

FEichinger

1:34 PM

@fredley Seems accurate.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert I've had the majority of popular consoles since the SNES, and I happened to get an NES a few years ago

fbueckert

@BenBrocka My parents had a NES and SNES, but as a kid, disposable income was rather slim. I got a couple games, but that was about it.

And I got to more or less totally skip the N64 and Gamecube eras.

OrigamiRobot

@kalina IMPACT! hahahahahahahahahaha

5pike

@BenBrocka I'd love to get my hands on a NES / SNES etc ... but these things are pretty expensive around my parts....

Thank god for emulation.

kalina

@OrigamiRobot is that a poor attempt at trying to call me fat?

Private Pansy

1:49 PM

@kalina Well now it is

kalina

I see

FEichinger

@kalina It was subtle enough for you to jump at it, so I'd say it was nicely executed.

OrigamiRobot

I didn't call nobody nothing.

kalina

@FEichinger this is @OrigamiRobot, he can only do accidental execution at best - you're giving him way too much credit

FEichinger

@kalina So? It worked no less. :P

Blem

1:52 PM

►

OrigamiRobot

I do not accept credit. Cash only.

Ben Brocka

@5pike It's cool to have them but I love the idea of a more functional digital alternative like Sony's PSX emulation for PS3/PSP/PSV and I assume PS4, I wish Nintendo's VC was more like that (buy once, play on everything, doesn't do this "NEW CONSOLE let's slash the VC library into nothingness again even though we were still missing so much shit on the wii")

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Yeah, Nintendo's still trying to feel it's way through the whole online aspect.

Including the downloading of titles.

fredley

@Blem cruel

fbueckert

It would be better if they just glutted the VC store with stuff as fast as they can port it.

Rather than the dribs and drabs we currently get.

Ben Brocka

1:54 PM

@fbueckert Even then it seems absurd to not put everything from the Wii VC onto the Wii U VC

fbueckert

@BenBrocka I agree.

Fragmenting the market like that doesn't help them at all.

Ben Brocka

They're trying to do the whole slow, metered releases so they can draw more attention per title, but they will literally never fill their backlog at this rate

Private Pansy

So... this is actually a thing

Ben Brocka

As they proved with the Wii, they will not release all they can before the next console is out, and if they start from 0 VC titles every generation we will just never actually have all possible games on VC, not on one platform anyway. It shouldn't be like this

fbueckert

@PrivatePansy Yeah, it got announced at E3, right?

Ben Brocka

1:56 PM

If that's what absol's evolution looks like I'm going to be so pissed

Private Pansy

I wasn't around for E3

Shotgun Ninja

@PrivatePansy old news

Michael Dunfield

techcrunch.com/2013/09/04/robot-turtles

Also Hitbox team is working with Capcom to bring Dustforce to consoles.

!!

fbueckert

@BenBrocka And the fact that they're crazy scared about piracy doesn't help actually transferring your purchases to the new console.

Personally, I just want PvZ 2 to come out on non-iOS devices.

Ben Brocka

@fbueckert Which is so fucking dumb. If people were going to pirate SNES/N64/etc games they'd just use emulators, not trade their Wii U account

5pike

2:02 PM

@fbueckert They might be crazy scared about piracy, but they make it to damn easy

fbueckert

@BenBrocka Exactly.

5pike

I hope they got their asses into gear to secure the WII U

Ben Brocka

They need to offer a viable alternative to ROMs, they could be making so much more money

fbueckert

It boggles the mind.

Michael Dunfield

@fbueckert It's out on Facebook.

fbueckert

2:03 PM

Store your Pokemon in the cloud!

5pike

@fbueckert and pay a fee

Blem

@fredley yea, but my guess is it is also fake

Michael Dunfield

Wait, maybe it isn't.

fbueckert

@5pike $5 for a solid year is crazy cheap.

fredley

@Blem Oh yes, of course

TV looks nothing like a window

Ben Brocka

2:04 PM

I'd rather put 'em on my SD card or PC, but at least it's cheap

Brant

Hey, you know what virtual console doesn't force you to re-buy all your games every four years? Emulators.

fredley

No parallax, and it didn't look animated

5pike

@fbueckert Yes it is, just saying

Brant

Screw you, Nintendo.

fbueckert

I could pay for a lifetime subscription out of pocket change.

Ben Brocka

2:04 PM

@Brant also you can transfer and back up your save files...that's important for me

Brant

Dropbox.

fbueckert

@BenBrocka With it under their control, they can also guarantee the legitimacy of said Pokemon.

Brant

Sorry for the snark, just ranting.

5pike

@BenBrocka to multiple devices as well

Ben Brocka

@5pike yeah, I use SugarSync to sync my emulator saves to all my devices...unfortunately my Android emulators can't read saves from my PC emulators though

@fbueckert Oh, that's true

I know they had hacking problems in previous online offerings

5pike

2:07 PM

@BenBrocka use a different emulator?

Ben Brocka

Surprisingly many people had perfect, shiney pokemon

@5pike Almost no two emulators seem to support the same format of saves, even on the same platform. At least they didn't for SNES when I tried

5pike

@BenBrocka All emulators I used were pretty much compatible

could be that I am just lucky

Ben Brocka

I just use one per system on PC, but my Android ones don't seem to play nice with them

fbueckert

Speaking of new Wii U VC games, Breath of Fire 2 is coming soon.

Ben Brocka

You'd think they'd at least support ZSNES files, it's like the gold standard of SNES emulator

fbueckert

2:09 PM

Like...tomorrow.

5pike

@BenBrocka which SNES emulator are you using?

On android

Michael Dunfield

fastcolabs.com/3016289/…

Ben Brocka

@5pike SNESoid, I was using all the *oids back in the day. I want to get off of them, since their controls suck on tablets, but my saves are locked on there

I can switch over, but I'll have to switch over after I finish Lufia 2. Earthbound's save file is also SNESoid

But I finished EB so I can just stop using SNESoid but use a new one if it's ZSNES compatible

5pike

Mhhh... I think that the Snes9x save files are compatible, but not 100% sure

was quite a while when I last played

FEichinger

@MichaelDunfield Meh, it's one of those "sounds good on paper" things.

Ben Brocka

2:13 PM

Forget why but I didn't like SNES9x quite as much. Might try it later though

5pike

ZSNES and SNES9x are the 2 most popular ones

Shotgun Ninja

<3 ZSNES

Ben Brocka

I love everything about ZSNES except how it handles the mouse

5pike

Almost every year, I get the urge to dust of my emulators

What ensues is an update party

for EVERYTHING

Ben Brocka

I never really seek out emulator updates, not sure any of mine ever got smart enough to update inside the app's menus

5pike

2:19 PM

I just get the urge to do it

Ben Brocka

I should see if PSP emulation ever got perfected so I can move my last UMD games to emulator

5pike

@BenBrocka I think they got pretty good

PS2 as well

Ben Brocka

That's interesting, I'll have to try a PS2 emulator too, my current PC should be able to handle it unlike my PC in college...

FEichinger

Meanwhile, in Germany

Ben Brocka

I'm currently without a method of properly playing PS2 games

@FEichinger sounds like a 16 bit era video game plot come to think of it

5pike

2:20 PM

@BenBrocka Tried it as it was at the 0.9 state - was pretty good

Ben Brocka

pcsx2?

5pike

yes

was 1 year ago

Ben Brocka

my Dualshock 3 drivers have a special setting for that even

I'll have to download that again

5pike

Playable: 1885 (79.2%)

Ben Brocka

I remember pcsx2 being even more of a pain to try and set up than DC and PSX emulation

5pike

2:23 PM

It isn't really

Just follow a guide

Shotgun Ninja

@FEichinger Spooky. Pieces of metal around the skeleton? Potentially made of multiple bodies? Sounds awesome.

Ben Brocka

@5pike I just recall fussing with lots of plugins

5pike

@BenBrocka Strange - I don't

Remember downloading pcsx2

the bios

2 plugins

and bam

Worst Case should only take 1 hour

Shotgun Ninja

I still couldn't find the bios.

Last time I tried, that is.

The only games I'd want to play on PS1 are the Crash Bandicoot games, Spyro, and FF7.

Ben Brocka

Maybe I'm thinking more of epsxe

Michael Dunfield

2:27 PM

@BenBrocka Buy a used PS2?

5pike

I now a place that has everything you need, but since BIOS are quite hot, I don't think I'm allowed to share it

fbueckert

@ShotgunNinja No Legend of Dragoon? is sad

OrigamiRobot

@ShotgunNinja -FF7 +Legend of Dragoon

Ben Brocka

@MichaelDunfield I have a Yellow Light of Death'd fat PS3 I'd like to fix but I got annoyed halfway through taking it appart so it's back in it's box

5pike

@BenBrocka Repaired the one of my brother

was fun

fbueckert

2:29 PM

@BenBrocka I am now the proud owner of no less than three 60 GB PS3's.

Ben Brocka

@ShotgunNinja Parasite Eve, Silent Hill, Legend of Legaia

fbueckert

One dead, one in use, one as backup.

Michael Dunfield

Yeah my dad has three PS3's too. One of them he bought with like 14 games for much less than the price of the games or the unit on their own.

OrigamiRobot

@ShotgunNinja SotN

Ben Brocka

@5pike I'm gonig to try the heatgun thing, I have the heatgun but MAN is this thing a pain in the ass to rip apart

@OrigamiRobot yes

5pike

2:30 PM

@BenBrocka I know, but the heatgun thing works

OrigamiRobot

Onimushas 1, 3, and 4

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Those are PS2

Michael Dunfield

►

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka Oh yea, I got away from myself...

fbueckert

@BenBrocka I just baked mine.

Ben Brocka

2:30 PM

Damn I never got Onimusha 4 did I

OrigamiRobot

I never finished it.

Ben Brocka

I finished 1 through 3. Wasn't a big fan of 2

1 was great, my first PS2 game too I think (that or FFx)

I was amazed by the graphics in Onimusha at the time. Still looks good, really

FEichinger

Ooooh, non-dubbed House of Cards, sweet.

OrigamiRobot

2 was awful.

5pike

@OrigamiRobot I can't remember much about 2

Probably for the better

Shotgun Ninja

2:35 PM

Any other games for PS1 I should look into getting?

I'm making a list.

5pike

@ShotgunNinja Alundra

I try to think of some more

Ben Brocka

Probably but I can't think right now. I really enjoyed FF8/9 too but I know lots of people think they were meh

OrigamiRobot

@ShotgunNinja Tomba! and to a lesser extent, Tomba! 2

Ben Brocka

Oh, Wild Arms is great

5pike

If I wasn't at work, I could sift through my .iso collection.

Shotgun Ninja

2:36 PM

List of PlayStation games

This is a list of games for the Sony PlayStation video game system, organized alphabetically by name. See Lists of video games for related lists. There are often different names for the same game in different regions. The Sony PlayStation was first released in Japan on December 3, 1994, September 9, 1995 in North America, September 29, 1995 in Europe and in Australia on November 15, 1995 and featured 14 launch titles: Air Combat, Aquanaut's Holiday, Battle Arena Toshinden, ESPN Extreme Games, Jumping Flash!, Kileak - The DNA Imperative, NBA Jam Tournament Edition, Power Serve 3D Tennis...

OrigamiRobot

@ShotgunNinja Megaman Legends 1 & 2

fbueckert

@ShotgunNinja If you don't have a PSP, Tactics Ogre.

If you do, get the PSP version.

Shotgun Ninja

I'm just going for PS1 games, since I'm going to renew my efforts in earnest to set up a PS1 emulator or get a used PS1.

Ben Brocka

I guess sony is still making those phones

Jumping Flash was fun for the $6 I paid for it

fbueckert

@ShotgunNinja And Tactics Ogre is a must play for SRPG fans. I just feel the PSP version is better than the PS1 version.

5pike

2:39 PM

Wild 9 was also quite fun

Ben Brocka

Though it's possibly more useful for nostalgia/a reminder of how awkward 3D controls used to be on a console than as a game, I still liked it though

OrigamiRobot

@ShotgunNinja ePSXe is super easy to set up.

5pike

Bushido Blade

Chrono Cross

RedRiderX

@OrigamiRobot Really? I've found it extremely hard to set up, compared to emulators for other consoles.

Shotgun Ninja

oh man

blatant sexism in Japan:

5pike

2:43 PM

Digimon world

Shotgun Ninja

Harvest Moon: Back to Nature

|genre = Life simulation/Role-playing video game |modes = Single player |ratings = |platforms = PlayStation, PlayStation Portable, PlayStation Network |requirements = }} is a video game in the farm simulation series Harvest Moon, developed by Victor Interactive Software. It is the first Harvest Moon game for a non-Nintendo console. Characters from Harvest Moon 64 were transferred to be the characters in this game, although with new lifestyles, personalities, and relatives. A girl-oriented remake, , was also developed, but until 2007 had not been released in English. This game was late...

Michael Dunfield

Today's Listening comes from 2011.

Shotgun Ninja

aka: Harvest Moon for Girls

5pike

@ShotgunNinja YES - that game is awesome

fbueckert

@ShotgunNinja How...is that sexist?

Michael Dunfield

2:43 PM

@fbueckert "A girl-oriented remake"

But I don't really think it is either.

Shotgun Ninja

@fbueckert They released a separate version in Japan... with "for Girls" at the end of the title.

OrigamiRobot

@RedRiderX It is hard compared to other emulators in the same sense that 6 flies are harder to swat than 5.

fbueckert

@ShotgunNinja That's not sexism. That's feature limitation.

Shotgun Ninja

@fbueckert Which is sexist...

fbueckert

It's a common trend for early Harvest Moon games.

They did that out here, too.

Gaming Topics From Outside

2:44 PM

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Q: How to install graphic drivers for Intel GM45

I recently installed Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Dell laptop whose configuration is as follows: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T6400; Intel GMA 4500 MHD Graphics Processor When i tried to launch a Game "Call Of Duty" using winetricks. An error is displayed saying "install drivers for your graphic devic...

Shotgun Ninja

Doesn't mean it isn't discriminatory between men and women gamers.

tombull89

I have a gift code for £19.99's worth of in-game currency for Warframe. I've never even heard of the game but if you're a player ping me and I'll get teh codez up all in yo' face.

2

5pike

Einhänder

OrigamiRobot

@5pike I only ever got to play the demo of this, but I wanted it so bad.

Michael Dunfield

candybox2.net

5pike

2:45 PM

@MichaelDunfield Oh SWEET!!!!

fbueckert

They did that straight up to DS games. Would you rather they not make the alternate version at all?

5pike

Evil Dead: Hail to the King

Fear Effect 1 and 2

Sterno

@MichaelDunfield You'll always be @gnomeslice to me.

5pike

Front Mission series

badp

Note to self: never reload this page

5pike

2:47 PM

G-police

Ben Brocka

@ShotgunNinja They just hadn't bothered to offer a female protagonist (and due to the marriage mechanics it's not as simple as changing the character sprite and some pronouns)

Michael Dunfield

@badp Something you want to save?

5pike

Definitely Grandia

FEichinger

EA Sports - embracing feminism ... in a UFC game

badp

@GnomeSlice YOU

:P

5pike

2:48 PM

one of the best RPGs

Ben Brocka

the Game Boy harvest moons allowed female characters and I think were the first to do so, and they did it by removing marriage as a mechanic

Michael Dunfield

@FEichinger does female UFC even exist?

RedRiderX

@OrigamiRobot I'd describe it as swatting 3 flies is easier than dealing with 6 different species of insects that all need a special kind of bug spray.

FEichinger

@MichaelDunfield Supposedly.

RedRiderX

But maybe I just had a hard time finding documentation.

Michael Dunfield

2:49 PM

@FEichinger That sounds like it could be interesting.

5pike

Hellnight aka Dark Messiah (scary game)

Hogs of War

Incredible Crisis (wacky game)

Shotgun Ninja

I've heard of Incredible Crisis, actually.

badp

Sterno

Animated gifs cause cancer.

3

5pike

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

OrigamiRobot

2:51 PM

@RedRiderX What do you need documentation for?

Ben Brocka

@badp I have no idea what that gif is supposed to represent

5pike

King's Field series (balls to the wall hard)

badp

uh

Shotgun Ninja

@BenBrocka Cheering for the wrong team

badp

"the Game Boy harvest moons allowed female characters and I think were the first to do so" "yesss" "and they did it by removing marriage as a mechanic" "wait what"

5pike

2:52 PM

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

Wipqozn

@Sterno Note to self: Ping @Sterno whenever animated gifs are posted from now on.

5pike

Legend of Mana (you have to play that)

Ben Brocka

OMG Legend of Mana was great

OrigamiRobot

Legend of @Mana

5pike

LSD

Michael Dunfield

2:52 PM

@OrigamiRobot =[

Ben Brocka

But kind of mean since it's basically impossible to experience all of the game in one playthrough

5pike

Medal of Honor series (dated graphics but still fun)

MediEvil 1 and 2

Ben Brocka

@badp marriage was never the most important part of it. Though I'm still annoyed that I can't marry why I want in A New Beginning. I didn't bother marrying at all in Rune Factory since it took soooo long

Shotgun Ninja

Apparently there was a Japan-only Cowboy Bebop game for PS1.

RedRiderX

@OrigamiRobot Which plugins to use for certain features or games or systems, and maybe some clearer help on how to debug stuff that isn't working.

5pike

2:53 PM

Megaman X4, X5 and X6

Michael Dunfield

Have you guys ever played this

►

Sterno

@Wipqozn Note to self: HOW EVERYTHING OUT

The word in square brackets is the alt text, which gets displayed if the browser can't show the image. Be sure to include meaningful alt text for screen-reading software

7

Michael Dunfield

Whoa, this has a PC version?

badp

@BenBrocka You should simply be able to look at a person and long-press E for the "marry" contextual menu action.

OrigamiRobot

@RedRiderX For the vast majority, you can just use the highest rated plugins.

Wipqozn

2:54 PM

You'll always be @GnomeSlice to me, @MichaelDunfield.

badp

and then boom, married!!

Wipqozn

or @GnomieBear,

OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn @GnomieBear*

5pike

Oddworld series

Shotgun Ninja

Welp, I'm off to register GnomieBear as a Stack account.

Fluttershy

2:55 PM

@5pike I see you mentioning awesome games like Fear Effect and Grandia. Why? I missed the relevant bit in the transcript.

Shotgun Ninja

Naming PS1 games I should try.

5pike

Parasite Eve (stay away from 2)

Ben Brocka

Mighty No 9 already has a bunch of fan art

5pike

Persona series

@BenBrocka and NSFW material

Ben Brocka

@5pike I didn't think 2 was that bad, but it definitely wasn't as good as the first

StrixVaria

2:56 PM

@Wipqozn @SexRobot*

Fluttershy

Ah. Yes, @ShotgunNinja you should play Fear Effect. It was amazing.

Shotgun Ninja

It's on the list.

5pike

Point Blank series, if you have a lightgun and a ps 1.

Shotgun Ninja

I'm gonna try to find a PS1.

OrigamiRobot

Am I the only person who's played Tomba?

Brant

2:58 PM

OrigamiRobot

DID I IMAGINE THIS GAME?

Shotgun Ninja

Tomba!

| genre = Platform | modes = Single-player | media = CD-ROM }} Ore! Tomba (Me! Tomba) in Japan, Tomba! in North America and Tombi! in Europe, is a platform game developed by Whoopee Camp for the Sony PlayStation. The game was followed by a sequel titled Tomba! The Wild Adventures in Japan, Tomba! 2: The Evil Swine Return in North America and Tombi! 2 in Europe. The colorful imaginative atmosphere and innovative gameplay has continued to keep it nostalgically popular with gamers. The series is the brainchild of Tokuro Fujiwara. It was also one of the first PlayStation games to take advanta...

All signs point to no.

5pike

Policenauts

OrigamiRobot

Tomba! is so valuable now. I am so ashamed I broke my copy.

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