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Grace Note

4:00 PM

@Wipqozn Pretty reasonably so.

fredley

@Wipqozn Yeah, understandable

StrixVaria

Grace Note

We don't have words in this language to describe how bad we mussed it up that time.

FEichinger

@GraceNote Oh, there are a bunch, but they should get people banned.

GnomeSlice

You guys are my best friends, I don't know how anyone could delete their account.

Honestly, you could just stop going to the site

Wipqozn

4:01 PM

@GnomeSlice Some people delete it so they will stop coming.

GnomeSlice

I guess that makes sense.

Wipqozn

That's why Arda deleted his account originally, so he'd stop coming.

It didn't work.

GnomeSlice

That didn't work either

hah

The obvious solution is to get banned for six months.

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fredley

Next Arqade swag t-shirt should just be white text on black: Come back @MarkTrapp

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Grace Note

@GnomeSlice But you came back.

Wipqozn

4:02 PM

@GraceNote 6 years then!

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Hm. Good point.

Maybe you should ban me again to make sure.

Grace Note

Let's not. I'm happy to have you back.

GnomeSlice

=]

fredley

For bonus points, rage-quit site one day before your 6-month ban is over

GnomeSlice

@fredley I considered not coming back for at least a week after my ban ended to mess with you guys, but that would have been childish and immature and I am an adult.

I think

FEichinger

4:05 PM

Yeah, it just deleted itself after badp has responded to me. Sure. — NoneOfYourBusiness 2 mins ago

Seriously, now?

Sepia Lazers

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Q: The state of this website

I am referring to this after my opinion was deleted from a meta post: @NoneOfYourBusiness I flagged it. I'm not afraid to say it. I found it rude, offensive to people with disabilities, and it didn't add anything constructive to the argument (other than the fact you thought Seven's sugg...

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fredley

@GnomeSlice @GNOMESLICE BELIEVES HE IS AN ADULT: DATA ACCEPTED

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FEichinger

This kind of thing is precisely why I wouldn't shed a single tear if NOYB would finally actually leave.

GnomeSlice

I would. =[

Wipqozn

@FEichinger This is what we're talking about, @GnomeSlice. Why the users here aren't that upset he might leave.

GnomeSlice

4:06 PM

You guys are filled with hate.

I am filled with love.

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Grace Note

@GnomeSlice I don't think it would've been immature. I think we'd've all enjoyed and shared a good laugh as you come back with a "GOTCHA, HAHA!"

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice Hates a strong word. He's just annoying. When a user just frustrates people it shouldn't be a surprise if people aren't upset to see him go.

fredley

@GnomeSlice You should have continued to lurk in the chat room as you were before, with your weepy avatar

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote I couldn't wait any longer, is the main reason.

@fredley Hah, I changed that after my site ban ended.

Ben Brocka

Why be filled with love when you can be filled with marshmallow filling?

Grace Note

4:07 PM

@GnomeSlice Given how many times the topic came up, I don't think anyone else could.

fredley

@GnomeSlice ...and changed it so you were crying blood

GnomeSlice

@fredley ew, no

You know what would have been funny.

To make avatars for the five stages of grief.

And cycle them over the course of my ban

Lazers

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Q: Priority of dragons and shrines

Should level 10 dragons be raised to level 15 in any particular order or grouping, as in all plant dragons first, cold second, etc., or better to raise one of each to level 15 first? To increase odds of breeding a rarer dragon? Also trying to take into account the max amount of coins earned in e...

dragonvale

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Q: On K240 do you get money from taxation?

I'm watching some replays of the game on youtube, and I'm noticing the guy seems to get money from nowhere as he's playing. He also colonised numerous asteroids without really exploiting them for minerals to sell. I'm wondering if you get income over time based on the total population of all as...

k240

fredley

@GnomeSlice You now know you have to do this

GnomeSlice

Oh well, maybe next time.

Ben Brocka

4:08 PM

Which cycle of grief is the crying blood part?

Wipqozn

@GnomeSlice If you went nuts and merged yourself with a computer to become SuperSlice?

Kevin van der Velden

@BenBrocka all of them

GnomeSlice

@BenBrocka Radiation Poisoning

Ben Brocka

@KevinvanderVelden Good, because that's my favorite stage

FAE

@GnomeSlice Or Ebola!

GnomeSlice

4:09 PM

@Wipqozn What, no

Next time I get banned someone remind me and I'll do that

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice You did have 6 months to do that, that actually would've been enough, yeah.

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote I know right. Too bad I didn't think of it beforehand.

Grace Note

You know what they always say about hindsight.

GnomeSlice

Not sure how well I could have translated emotions to a 12x14 grid anyway

Grace Note

At this point, actually, they more often say "You know what they always say about hindsight" than anything else...

GnomeSlice

4:10 PM

Heh

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice Oh it's already been used.

That's cool

Blem

@Lazers Read it as "On K240 do you get monkey from taxation?"

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX whaaat

Maybe they sent me the same one I had before?

@RedRiderX steam message me your email, I can invite you that way and you'll get one

if you actually want to try it

@Blem The avatar made you do it

Blem

RedRiderX

@GnomeSlice Oh okay, would I also be able to invite people if I find someone interested?

Blem

4:13 PM

@GnomeSlice yea, most likely

GnomeSlice

@RedRiderX Probably

FEichinger

@Blem And now I read that as "On K240 do you get monkey from laxation?" This is getting worse and worse.

Blem

36 mins ago, by fbueckert

I'M DELETING MY ACCOUNT IN PROTEST!

why has this still not happened?

;D

GnomeSlice

Do you guys find my arqade profile hard to read?

Ben Brocka

The nice thing about being a mod is you can delete other people's accounts in protest

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fredley

4:15 PM

We should all delete our accounts in time for kalina to get back.

GnomeSlice

It has a lot of junk in it

and stuff

FEichinger

Back to even more frustrating activities: KSP forums, wheeee ...

badp

to be completely absolutely fair

I really don't think NOYB's post was offensive

Essentially the exchange comes down to me like this

> Can we stop doing this thing we aren't really doing in the first place? It messes up screen readers. -7SD

> If you have to rely on screen readers, how are you playing games in the first place? -NOYB

Wipqozn

@badp I agree to behonest.

badp

...it's a fair point, yknow?

It's wrong, because pretty much every roguelike ever e.g. can be played to some extent by blind players, but it's fair.

fbueckert

4:17 PM

C'mon, people, papa wants a reversal badge!

Wipqozn

I don't think ti was meant to be "I don't care about blind people", but that "Our site isn't useful to blind people"

badp

(Only exception that comes to mind is brogue, Dungeons of Dredmor and... okay, everything that doesn't run in a terminal)

Wipqozn

If our site isn't useful to a certain group, why bother catering to them?

FEichinger

Then he should have worded it better.

Fluttershy

More delete votes please!

Wipqozn

4:18 PM

If he had actually taken the time to write out an answer supporting his point instead of just a short comment it would have been more well received I'm sure.

badp

@FEichinger His wording was unclear but not offensive.

FEichinger

I always read that as nothing other than "They're not relevant.", and that is offensive.

user15026

I suspect it can be read as offensive because it makes the assumption that blind people are unable to do a thing with no real reasoning to back it up except an assumption of inability based on incomplete knowledge of the abilities of someone with this particular disability.

Kevin van der Velden

There are gamers who have poor vision, for whom it is easier to use a screen reader.

fredley

@Fluttershy Why does it need so many

FEichinger

4:19 PM

@fredley Because it has so many upvotes.

user15026

@kevin this.

SaintWacko

@Fluttershy What determines that it needs to be deleted?

Wipqozn

@KevinvanderVelden Yup, this too.

badp

@AshleyNunn Even then in future comments he does agree that a few such games do exist, but they're kind of tangential and otherwise poorly covered by us

Again - it's wrong (see: Nethack) - but is it offensive?

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko It's closed as OT, and the highest upvoted answer doesn't even answer the question. Also, @fredley, it needs so many because delete votes scale with upvotes, apparently.

fredley

4:20 PM

badp

Just think about this: Sterno wrote the comment and roughly 10 people agree with him (hopefully) before NOYB's comment was flagged by... I think 4 people?

3 base + 1 for the upvote

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko It's closed. Closed questions should all eventually be deleted or re-opened. Except for dups.

SaintWacko

@Wipqozn Okay

badp

That means that more than half the people who looked at it didn't see it as offensive.

user15026

@badp or just didn't flag.

badp

4:21 PM

@AshleyNunn I'd bet that most of us know where the flag button is.

Wipqozn

@SaintWacko The idea is that close is intended to be a temporary state. Questions aren't supposed to sit in the closed state forever.

badp

If they didn't flag, it's probably because it wasn't bad enough in their eyes. I know it wasn't in mine, anyway!

FEichinger

@badp FWIW, I had legitimately forgotten to flag it, cause I replied to it the first time around.

badp

I can't speak for others, although I may or may not have spoken with others in places that may or may not exist :P

Wipqozn

@badp Stop listening to the voices in your head. They're not real.

user15026

4:22 PM

@badp I know precisely where it is, found it offensive, but didn't flag because honestly it made me such an anger squid that I kinda just abandoned the whole thing in a fit of "nope, do not have the spoons"

badp

@Wipqozn UR FACE IS NOT REAL

@AshleyNunn uh. Even if flagging is like completely anonymous?

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote Did you pick up Croixleur?

badp

You should know that even moderators really have to go out of their way to find out who posted comment flags

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice Not yet, nope.

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn I'd say it's more them not fully understanding the disability.

Fluttershy

4:23 PM

@Wipqozn I've always thought that things should be deleted quickly if voted Off-Topic. Unclear questions can stay closed for a bit though, to give the asker time to clean it up.

Wipqozn

I'm sure if you asked the average person on the street they would think that "blind" meant you literally can't see anything at all. In reality blind is a much more broad term than that.

badp

and by "go out of their way" I mean "email Grace Note"

Jason Berkan

@Fluttershy Me too. I think they missed an opportunity when they changed the close stuff. There should be closed - we don't want it here and on hold - if you fix it up, we'll allow it.

FEichinger

At any rate, had NOYB phrased that comment more clearly, it most likely wouldn't have been flagged.

GnomeSlice

People only flag curse words around here

user15026

4:24 PM

@badp it wasn't the Omg they might know it is me, it's the sheer anxious and brain flail inability to deal with any of it.

user15026

@wipqozn yeah, that's kinda what I meant. I am just so tired and brain flail todau that I suck at clarity.

badp

@AshleyNunn ah okay.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice So tempted to flag this.

GnomeSlice

If I had more money I would buy you all games because there are a lot of cool games you guys haven't played

Ben Brocka

Anyone (level 50+ please) interested in streaming Borderlands 2 next tuesday?

GnomeSlice

4:26 PM

Like elecorn.com/caster3d

Grace Note

@GnomeSlice You should really treat yourself more if you had more money.

Ben Brocka

Or this weekend, really. I need to finish DLC4

badp

@BenBrocka Sorry, can't. No voice chat.

OrigamiRobot

@BenBrocka I'm over level 50, but that wont stop me from dying a million times

GnomeSlice

@GraceNote But I have played all the cool games.

I don't have much use for money right now anyway.

Grace Note

4:27 PM

@GnomeSlice Save it up.

badp

Like, even in these days when I could use it, I find it just easier to use the keyboard that's already at my fingertips and write out what I want to say

Wipqozn

@AshleyNunn No worries. Your lack of clarity just means you're a monster.

GnomeSlice

And any plebe job I get in the coming months isn't going to be enough for me to move out on

SaintWacko

Huh

This is cool

Ben Brocka

@OrigamiRobot Doesn't really matter, I can phaselock often enough

Grace Note

4:28 PM

@GnomeSlice All the more reason to save the money.

FAE

@GnomeSlice That's why you save up though, so you can do that eventually!

user15026

@wipqozn fair enough. I accept that.

GnomeSlice

I guess.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice I had to save for a loooooong time to buy the car I wanted.

Wipqozn

@FAE Exactly. Moving out before saving up money is a really bad idea.

GnomeSlice

4:29 PM

I don't have any income right now anyway.

@OrigamiRobot I don't drive so that shouldn't be a problem.

OrigamiRobot

Not to mention putting up with a crappy car in the meantime

badp

In other news, it's a little sad how the Edge campaign fell flat on its face

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice It's an example.

GnomeSlice

I see.

badp

Wipqozn

4:29 PM

@badp Never heard of it. Sounds edgy.

OrigamiRobot

When I finally could afford it, it felt really satisfying.

Wipqozn

oh, I think I did hear of it. Can't remember what it is though.

GnomeSlice

@badp I'm guessing this isn't the TwoTribes Edge, because that came out ages ago

badp

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Wipqozn

I just remember that 32 mill goal/

@badp Ah okay, now I remember.

GnomeSlice

4:30 PM

Oh my God, I just saw a youtube ad made by the company I did my internship at

That's awesome

Ben Brocka

@badp Wow, I'm impressed they've gotten that much. I still don't hold out much hope for 'em

badp

@BenBrocka They got about $7M on the 29th. They got only $400k in the last three days.

Ben Brocka

That's usually how it is, big bursts at the start/end

@OrigamiRobot see if you can get @ianspugsly onboard for some BL2? Any time but tonight and friday basically

GnomeSlice

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FEichinger

@badp Caaaalled iiiiiiit.

GnomeSlice

4:33 PM

GameStick shipping August 26th

lvuibevlhivojne;vrker

badp

@BenBrocka Yeah, but they'd have needed 1.2M/day to make it

GnomeSlice

I guess I don't have any money anway

Ben Brocka

@badp I really would have expected a lot less, myself. That;s a crazy stretch if it works

badp

@BenBrocka Remember, nobody will pay for this campaign. You could just pledge $1M and then hope it doesn't make it.

(You'd need $1M in your bank account though :P)

Ben Brocka

@badp Yeah, I know they don't take the money until it hits it's goal.

I bet IGG really hopes it succeeds, I think they get a % based split of that

badp

4:35 PM

@BenBrocka They're not promoting the campaign in any way

It's not on the homepage or anything like that

Ben Brocka

@badp ...really? Damn. They HAVE to know that's a moonshot. If they don't promote it it's going to crash and burn

Fluttershy

In other news, the ex-military in me wants to edit NOYB's "question." You don't say "Over and out." You say "over" to imply the person on the other end can now reply. "Out" is used by itself to end the transmission. <_<

GnomeSlice

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badp

@BenBrocka It's what's happening.

@Fluttershy He's probably just using a different protocol than yours :P

GnomeSlice

@Fluttershy Not in the movies!

Ben Brocka

4:38 PM

@badp They have to at least try though. They must have done some preliminary shit to get to this point.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Yes, even in the movies.

GnomeSlice

I've definitely head 'over and out' in the movies.

Fluttershy

@badp It's pretty universal. >_>

SaintWacko

kickstarter.com/projects/lernstift/…

Grace Note

@Fluttershy I've been told this repeatedly but it'll never stop me.

SaintWacko

4:40 PM

No way I'm going to back something like that when the creators use "u" instead of "you" in the title

Ben Brocka

> u

Fluttershy

@SaintWacko I was just about to comment on that. <_<

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Exactly

That's why I linked it here

Not recommending it

GnomeSlice

I want one of these so much

ahhhhhhhhhhhh

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Ben Brocka

Ananamanaguchi is pretty much the only Kickstarter I'll let get away with that

Also my mind ended the sentence "the first pen that vibrates when" very differently from the actual text

badp

4:42 PM

@Fluttershy It's what apparently the European Air Force uses. Dunno if that means all individual countries in Europe also use it.

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice I misread what @Fluttershy said.

Grace Note

@SaintWacko Apparently they weren't using it when they wrote their article.

FEichinger

@GraceNote Or it was already added to the dictionary.

Grace Note

If it was, that is bad and they should feel bad.

Ben Brocka

It turns out the only thing you can actually write with it is "lol u mad"

Then it explodes in a flurry of ink, plastic and silicon

4:45 PM

Voice procedure includes various techniques used to clarify, simplify, and standardize spoken communications over two-way radios, in use by the military, in civil aviation, police and fire dispatching systems, citizens' band radio (CB), etc. Voice procedure communications are intended to maximize clarity of spoken communication and reduce misunderstanding. It consists of signalling protocol such as the use of abbreviated codes like the CB radio ten-code, Q codes in amateur radio and aviation, police codes, etc., and jargon. For instance the United States Air Force uses a term "Check Rog" ...

badp

...yeah you end up using different words even in "more localized" applications like Italy-only ambulances

weird that we could all agree, for once, on one thing.

Fluttershy

@badp What does "cambio" mean? I'm guessing "over". =P

badp

@Fluttershy Yeah

Well it literally means "change" but you get the idea.

user15026

4:46 PM

@fluttershy I didn't know there were rules about that but it fascinates me that there are.

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Yep! Likewise, "roger" and "wilco" should never be used together, but it's very common in movies to say, "Roger wilco, over and out." Believe it or not, that's intentional. <_<

Jason Berkan

@Fluttershy Unless you are playing Space Quest.