The Bridge

3:25 PM

Evening.

One day of Java hell done, three and a half to go.

Also: Passed my Comp Sci exam. Horribly so, because we had to do AWT on paper for crying out loud, but I did pass.

@GraceNote Giraffslice

@FEichinger fun fun fun fun.

Private Pansy

I'm reading this BBC article on the largest EVE Online battle in history, a d was thinking how well the article was written (compared to the usual drivel found in the BBC's technology section) when I found this line:

well it's not that bad is it?

@badp AWT on paper? Yes, a lot of fun. Particularly when you can't even scribble some notes or concept ahead of it and just have to write it down top to bottom.

window = new Window()
leftpane = new Pane().attach(window, e)
loginTxt = new Label("Plz to login").attach(leftpane, n)
...

Private Pansy

3:31 PM

> Their destruction has a real-world cost as the game's internal currency can be bought with real money.

or something

it's been years.

Private Pansy

And they were doing so well! Tsk tsk...

@badp We were supposed to make an animation of snowflakes dropping down to the bottom of the window, make it respond to clicks and use specific ideal concepts. Also: the rate at which snowflakes spawn can be set by the user and SCREW YOU HOW ON EARTH DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO THIS WITHOUT PAPER FOR NOTES?!

@FEichinger oh. Absolute positioning fun! Plus sines

Just use a pencil and write your notes on the desk? :P

@badp Given that the desk belongs to our canteen I figured that would be a bad idea.

3:35 PM

Coding challenges on paper that aren't just "give me basic code" or "pseudocode this" are generally pretty terrible

@FEichinger Rough surface? I hate those for writing.

If it isn't then pencil marks go away with a little finger rubbing

@badp You do realize I need like at least 2x A4 for that, right?

...they don't so much go away as they are spread, mostly on your fingers, but you get the point

@BenBrocka Indeed. It kinda sorta works with procedural code, because you're supposed to work on that top to bottom anyway. But object oriented design across four sub-assignments? That's painful.

@FEichinger you obviously wont' write the whole code and then copy it over, but you could do a drawing with coordinates and bounding boxes and whatnot

@BenBrocka and yeah, lab assignments are a thing that exists.

3:37 PM

And Java hell (as in: mandatory Programming Course) now finally introduces Swing ... And consists of tons and tons of pointless hackery.

Well, Google did ask me to write out from scratch quicksort on Google Docs for the interview, but hey! :P

@badp That still amounts to roughly 2x A4. Sketch for the result, Sketch for the procedure and a rough outline ...

@FEichinger I would've probably needed a sketch of the window, but not much after that

@badp In my day we did lab assignments for computing on...compters

Which are like computers but cheaper

@BenBrocka Welcome to 2013. We have pens now!

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3:40 PM

@badp What annoyed me the most was the tons of event handling just for the sake of it. Also: Spawning a Thread per snowflake and keeping track of it? Horrible to do in my mind.

@FEichinger what? I hope you didn't do that

@badp That was the assignment.

Dead serious.

I really hope you didn't do per-snowflake threads

I would've docked mad points for it if I was grading it.

Dead. Serious.

WHAT IS EVEN THE POINT OF ENCAPSULATION

3:42 PM

That was part of the assignment, as we were also supposed to use Observables for the Canvas change whenever a snowflake moves.

I told you it was painful.

I'm so friggin glad I passed it. Never again.

before = time.time()
time.sleep(1/60f)
after = time.time()
for snowflake in snowflakes:
  snowflake.doYaThang(after - before)

@badp I would've done the exact same thing. But the assignment said Nope.

Your next assignment is to prove the higgs boson exists. You have 20 minutes, a post-it note and a half-empty mechanical pencil.

@BenBrocka oh god not mechanical pencils.

I mean, I get it, the exam was supposed to check on the whole shebang we did throughout the semester. But geez, I would've solved that completely different.

@BenBrocka Yeh, that sounds about right.

3:45 PM

Mechanical pencils are a scourge onto humanity. A curse upon humankind. A CLEAR SIGN OF THE IMPENDING DOOM THAT AWAITS US ALL. EVERY WORTHLESS BLISTER OF GRAPHITE THAT BREAKS OFF ONE IS A WARNING OF THE COMING OF TONY THE PONY HE COMES **HE COMES**

+zalgo

@FEichinger well of course the sleep is done on its own single thread dedicated to all snowflakes

so that the whole program isn't only responsive once every sixtieth of second

there was no need to allocate eleventy threads for that, even if I wanted to test you on threads

Obviously.

The point is to teach you how to dick around and be bad with threads.

Now you're left wondering how else you can fuck up code with threads.

@ShotgunNinja I'm just pondering thread safety hell in that situation

Instead of learning the right ways to use threads, or developing discipline with thread use, you're taught from the get-go that threads are cool. Imagine if this is how we taught gun safety.

does every snowflake has to acquire a lock on, say, the window before it can move its own snowflake?

@ShotgunNinja Oh, we sorted that out. "Hey guys! Guns are for murderers! Don't use guns!"

Works surprisingly well! You should look into it :P

3:50 PM

@badp Single-thread everything!

Q: Why did my vote count for 10?

@ShotgunNinja multiprocess is a thing that exists :P

why break down the global interpreter lock when you can have multiple interpreters!?!!?!??!!

(yes I know python isn't java shut up)

Sepia Lazers

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I up-voted SaintsWacko's answer to When should I use an Orb of Scouring? and it popped up with a +10 indicator. After refreshing the page, I found that the score of the answer has indeed jumped up by 10. I tried to retract my vote to see what would happen, and found that I could vote again for ...

SaintWacko

@badp I have a wonderful mechanical pencil

It automatically rotates the lead as you write so that it's always sharp

@SepiaLazers Huh, first time I've seen myself in a meta question

@SaintWacko REPENT SINNER FOR YOU HAVE DOOMED US ALL

@SepiaLazers I wonder if commenting the latest answer with "The sound you've heard is my face connecting with my palm." would get me flagged rude/unconstructive

Q: searching for Replaying Rockers videos of Warcraft III ROC

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Has anyone seen the video names "Replaying Rockers #X" where X a numbers (1-5). I used to have them until my HD crashed and now i cannot find any link to these diamonds anymore. Google didn't not help either. The only thing that i have found is some low-res videos of Replaying Rockers #3,4 and 5...

warcraft-3

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Q: What and/or when should I craft?

In Path of Exile, there's no gold (piece) economy. It is based on currency items which each have their own use and their prices are relative to themselves, and to the leagues in which they appear. What is the use of these currency items? Crafting. Here is Grinding Gear Game's (the developer's) ...

path-of-exile

3:55 PM

HEX YOU BADP

Oh hey that actually only uses each letter once. Fancy that.

Now complete the sentence using all other missing letters and we'll have a winner

or don't, if you value your morning <__<

It'd be hard, considering I already used four out of five of the vowels that this language is oh-so dependent on.

@GraceNote Language was never specified. LOOPHOLE

FKMQTWVIZJCGLRSN HEX YOU BADP

@OrigamiRobot My options are between English and British English, and as it were I already used a U so British English would be right out in terms of success in the endeavour.

3:59 PM

good old keyboard smashing

FAE

@badp Pangrams are hard

@FAE Grace likes hard.

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@GraceNote You could make up a language.

Be creative!

@SepiaLazers Why not just delete the whole question?

Can someone look at my profile on Steam while logged-in?

steamcommunity.com/id/Ullallulloo

NiteCyper

That's a profile while I'm logged in, alright. No problems seeing it. Wait sorry, looking at it in a browser.

4:12 PM

@NiteCyper Oops, sorry, I don't think I have you on my friends list.

Looking at it in a browser's fine, but I was gonna test blocking.

@Ullallulloo What about it?

@OrigamiRobot k, do I appear online now?

@Ullallulloo yes

Yea I can see you

@badp How about now?

4:14 PM

@Ullallulloo yes

Still yes

Okay.

That's silly.

Apparently blocking only works in the client.

And probably the web chat.

@Ullallulloo you mean blocking people from communicating with you?

@Ullallulloo not true

@badp yeah

4:17 PM

@Ullallulloo if you're online and want to appear offline just change the setting in your friends list

@Ullallulloo This profile is private

@badp That changes it for everyone though

@Ullallulloo eh

@Batophobia Yeah, you can do that.

Blocking should also affect quickplay btw

4:18 PM

And you are trying to.......

So if you find an asshole on Dota and you never want to play with him again, that's your option.

@badp Sounds like something game-specific, but I like this idea.

A: Is there any way to hide your Steam status from others?

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Yes, it is possible. All you have to do is to block them: You might want to look at this question too to be clearer, but basically it makes you appear as "offline" to that person only. Like that post says though, be careful because they can still see your real status if they go to your profil...

@badp Given that the pool size at my skill level is ~3,200,000 players, I think I'll take my chances, but good to know. :P

fredley

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@Blem

@Ullallulloo I think the goal is the same user is blocked across all games.

4:27 PM

@Batophobia Ah, yeah, that could be nice.

LOADOUT NOT AVAILABLE

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

> this is the trick for getting fast service at a bank

@Ullallulloo That's the trick for a free ride to the police station

@Batophobia both, probably

5:04 PM

twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/361893923649646592/photo/1

damn twatter links

@badp I'm going to have to start using doYaThang as a function name now.

Q: What sorts of specializations are there?

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In Path of Exile, every character class shares the same passive skills tree; they just start out at different points in it. What determines a specialization are things like selection of passive skills, active skills, as from socketable gems, as well as weapon(s) and whatnot. All are integral to s...

path-of-exile

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Q: Animal crossing public works requirements

Is there any kind of requirement for public works to be suggested by villagers? Something like X days into the game? Certain town rate? 2nd floor of museum? I'm currently working on getting the 2nd floor of museum and I've tried all the tricks people suggest over the internet even the ones shown...

animal-crossing-new-leaf

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Q: What if everyone is on the same team?

Is it possible to set up a game and have all of the bots be on the same team? Would you gain the benefits of the AI civs cheating? Would you get super science from a shared tree? Would a military victory be unobtainable, very easy, or instant? I'm curious what would happen in this situation.

Q: Where to attack large monsters?

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When fighting bigger monsters and grasping and then climbing up them to attack, does it make any difference where one climbs up to and attacks on their body? I've only fought a few large ogres so far, but in my last fight one of my pawns shouted something like "attack his helm" (indicating his ...

dragons-dogma

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Q: Why is there no dialogue options for Serena to follow me?

For some odd reason I can't get Serena to follow me and now there is no option for her to follow me when I open dialogue options. I need her though to finish the vampire quest line. I have tried attacking her, waiting, magic, everything.

skyrim

A: Syncing data from web service upon launch?

5:31 PM

@Batophobia also consider getInThere

user43095

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This is greate! thanks Adromil

Wait, when were we talking about @badp's pens?

murgatroid99

@jeffreylin_ How can that possibly be at +2?

user43095

@murgatroid99 EXACTLY

user43095

m.youtube.com/…

user43095

5:39 PM

stackoverflow.com/search?q=Body%3A%22Thanks%22

user43095

stackoverflow.com/questions/13673175/separate-chars-in-array-list-by-a-comma-java

@murgatroid99 Sockpuppets.

murgatroid99

@jeffreylin_ That was easy to fix

Awww yea! 1 helpful flag on SO.

user43095

@OrigamiRobot :P

murgatroid99

5:44 PM

@OrigamiRobot those are so easy to get. Just search for crappy answer indicators (like links to SO) and flag all of them

@murgatroid99 Don't ruin this for me!

user43095

Is it possible to sort by question only? stackoverflow.com/search?q=Body%3A%22Thanks%22

@jeffreylin_ is:question

user43095

Robo-reviewers, getting me +2 reps since I joined Stack Overflow

user43095

@GraceNote Thanks

Q: Civilization 5 Hotseat with Diplomatic Victory

5:59 PM

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I play Hotseat with my brother and we have this problem. if the 2nd player in turn wins the diplomatic victory the game ends with defeat screen for the first player and the 2nd player doesnt get his victory score. And we have some like competition who will do the biggest victory score at our lead...

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Q: Garrisoned units disappear

Whenever I garrison a unit in a city, they seem to disappear. I had some longswordmen and catapults garrisoned in my cities for a very long time. They did not appear or have their symbol above them. I could click on the cities and nothing would happen sometimes. Is this a bug, or am I just missin...

Q: How do I forge a gem worth 1,000,00+ gold?

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You earn the Cold Fusion achievement in Infinity Blade 2 by forging a gem worth 1,000,00 or more gold. How do I do this? Do I continue forging gems until I get to 1,000,000+, or is there some alchemy involved?

infinity-blade-2

@Sterno finally saw that ping It's not so much plagiarism I'm concerned with. The post itself, felt way too short for me and rather out of the blue - further information was needed, is all. And the easiest way to provide that, would be a link to the patch notes or whatever other source gave that definitive patch number. ;)

I think it may have come off a bit rash, in retrospect. Might have confused them for an established user, even.

I kind of don't like that there's no general off-topic reason any more.

There's no reason that's just "this isn't about video games".

@Ullallulloo That's what custom off-topic is for.

We would need to pick "other" if someone asked a question about the Mexican war.

But we have custom reasons now!

"This isn't about video games because it is indeed about scrubbing toilets."

6:07 PM

Is there a question you were referring to?

Q: searching for Replaying Rockers videos of Warcraft III ROC

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Has anyone seen the video names "Replaying Rockers #X" where X a numbers (1-5). I used to have them until my HD crashed and now i cannot find any link to these diamonds anymore. Google didn't not help either. The only thing that i have found is some low-res videos of Replaying Rockers #3,4 and 5...

warcraft-3

No, I just made that up on the spot for some shameless star bait. Unsuccessfully so, too.

I'm trying to think of a custom close reason, but it's hard.

@Ullallulloo Product that matches criteria

@fbueckert I guess, but the wording in that is pretty heavily oriented towards game-rec.

I don't see how it's more useful than a general off-topic reason.

6:10 PM

@Ullallulloo 'tis, but it still fits. It is kinda broad, though. Feel free to write your own if you feel like it.

@fbueckert I couldn't just say "This isn't about video games." because it kind of is.

I don't know if you can put links in custom close reasons or not.

@Ullallulloo I believe you can; it should just be basic markdown.

Either way, it generates a comment for you that you can edit.

cuz I like "This question does not appear to be about videogames or videogame consoles, within the scope defined in the help center."

@Ullallulloo Using a custom reason will display generic off topic in the banner and a comment with your specific custom reason.

Or, at least, that's how it worked the last time I saw it.

eh, I already went with what you said anyway.

@FEichinger I'll remember this in the future.

6:16 PM

@OrigamiRobot to the rescue!

@Ullallulloo I'd like to see you remember it in the past.

@Batophobia All I need is a time machine.

Anyone here use Bing rewards

user43095

@Batophobia yes

spoon-tamago.com/2013/05/28/…

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6:21 PM

@Batophobia is it a compensation scheme for using such an awful search engine

@jeffreylin_ So useful for free Xbox Live every month

use DuckDuckGo instead

(NSFW Langauge) Call Of Duty players are so classy

@badp With Greasemonkey, I can search 1-90 every day without being there and then get Xbox Live for free every month.

@fbueckert Eh?

6:23 PM

Did you ever try the Bing it on thing?

Oh, the question

I cast my vote and immediately erased all memories of said question.

I used "Do a barrel roll" and easily found which side was Google :D

@badp DuckDuckGo gets awful results though.

Bing's aren't actually that bad.

It's close to Google and way above anything else.

Q: How Do I move a game on a flash drive to my computer so i can play it?

6:38 PM

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Okay, so my friends play GTA SA multiplayer online in their own little group and they asked me to join and one of my friends gave me a flash drive with the game on it. Now i am back at my house and i have a acer computer and i am not good with computers in general, but this computer is more confu...

gta-san-andreas

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Powerlord

Bacon!

Q: Where do I go after killing Melchiah?

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Q: Why didn't humanity end?

When planting crops on Cletus's Farm, you have the option to plant Triffids. The game says that you are rewarded with "End of Humanity". I planted these to see what would happen, but when they were finished and harvested, nothing happened. Do you have to be at a certain point in the story or h...

simpsons-tapped-out

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After defeating Melchiah and exiting the corresponding area, Elder God says: With Melchiah's gift your way is opened. Return to the seat of Kain's ill-omened empire. It's sterile silence has secrets yet to unveil. But I'm not that much familiar with the game world locations, so I'm not sure where...

soul-reaver

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Q: How does reputation work?

Is it related to influence at all? I've heard things about other CSs and civs going to war or changing their diplomatic status with you depending on how you treat other civs or CSs. Is this true? If so how does it work? Is it safe to go around smashing CSs without all the other civs and CSs getti...

Q: How Do I move a game on a flash drive to my computer so i can play it?

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Okay, so my friends play GTA SA multiplayer online in their own little group and they asked me to join and one of my friends gave me a flash drive with the game on it. Now i am back at my house and i have a acer computer and i am not good with computers in general, but this computer is more confu...

gta-san-andreas

Powerlord

Triffid

The triffid is a tall, mobile, carnivorous, and highly venomous fictional plant species—the titular antagonist in John Wyndham's 1951 novel The Day of the Triffids and Simon Clark's 2001 sequel The Night of the Triffids. Triffids were also featured in the 1957 BBC radio dramatization of Wyndham's book, a considerably altered film adaptation which was produced in 1962, a more faithful 1981 television serial produced by the BBC, and in a 2009 two-part TV series also produced by the BBC. Since 1951, when The Day of the Triffids was first published, the word "triffid" has become a popu...

So, one-boxing doesn't work in a reply any more?

bbbbbaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwww

user15026

oh man my next term schedule is crazy

user15026

6:47 PM

But it is my second last termmmmmmm (and the last full one, I only need one more credit after fall)

You're so close to the boss level!

user20683

trilliansthoughts.tumblr.com/post/56379573415/…

user20683

@AshleyNunn something to make you laugh.

@Powerlord It should

Not in implicit replies, though

user15026

6:53 PM

@WorldEngineer laughs

user15026

@TimStone I can taste it. It tastes like hard won victory. (Seriously, I am surprised greatly that after everything, I haven't given up.)

:D

user15026

Next term features 2 evening classes, a Monday that is pretty much GO GO GO GO from 12:30 - 9:30 at night, but also has fridays with no classes.

user15026

So that's cool.

user20683

My thursdays last fall started at 8am and could last as late as 10pm

user15026

6:56 PM

@WorldEngineer This is the first time I have taken evening classes, or had such a full day, but a lot of the courses I am taking next term are like....fun-ish things (not degree related, just trying to fill in the required number of courses to graduate now that I have gotten all my degree requirements done)

user20683

good

user20683

mine were not

user15026

@WorldEngineer Yeah, I am lucky (for some value of lucky) - since I am only taking the 4 year general English degree now (I have no hope of honors) I have a lot less requirements

user20683

work from 8-1ish, then algorithms from 2:50-4:35 then physics from 5:30 to 6:45 then physics lab from 7pm to 9:50pm

user15026

so I have filled them all already (because I tried to get specializations, before I learned you can only have those w/ an honours degree)

user15026

6:59 PM

I have no idea where work will fit into all of this - I have to wait for GrumpyCatBoss to actually want my schedule, and then see if he completely screws me out of work or not

user20683

@AshleyNunn freelance writing might be an option.

@AshleyNunn Gah, I have to get my schedule looked at by my boss as well...

It is at times like this when I consider it's probably easier to just use hand signage

@AshleyNunn Are you going to be around tonight?

user15026

@WorldEngineer Entirely possible - I figure I will wait and see what happens with GrumpyCatBoss

user15026

7:02 PM

@OrigamiRobot I should be, at least later evening

user15026

@WorldEngineer Entirely possible - I figure I will wait and see what happens with GrumpyCatBoss

@AshleyNunn I..what? Who?

@AshleyNunn We need to get at least to episode 6!

user15026

@Wipqozn Using a derp connection, which is why my messages come twice. and GrumpyCatBoss is my boss at teh library

@AshleyNunn He sounds grumpy.

user15026

7:03 PM

he is pretty much perma-grumpy and doesn't like me or anything about my life that he is aware of.

I'm upset this video didn't get more attention early.

Because Brian Blessed punched apolar bear in the face.

also. whyyyyyyy?

whyyyyy?

how does that compute?

►

oops, forgot to link to the time..

but the dude punched a polar bear in the face

and it ran away

He's basically the real life chuck norris.

Oh, language warning.

@AshleyNunn youtube.com/watch?v=2V5FARxi8HM

user20683

Brian Blessed or the other guy?

7:07 PM

not sure what that is but you probably will like it.

user15026

@badp I know what this is :) Thanks for the link :)

@WorldEngineer Brian Blessed.

user20683

He's not the real life Chuck Norris, he's the real life Brian Blessed. He's in a class by himself, largely because he's too loud for anyone to be near him.

@WorldEngineer True.

@AshleyNunn so is the show moving off youtube to subbable or is subbable just some kind of recurring kickstarter?

7:20 PM

@badp verb second unless you have a good reason not to put it there

@BenBrocka That Gemeisan-thing is like an adverb. It doesn't count right?

wir would be the subject

user15026

@badp They are basically trying to use it as another avenue for their content, afaik. I don't know if it is becoming a replacement for youtube content or not - I know they are basically going to do a lot with subbable because well, they created it (I think) but honestly I am not as up in the business of the vlogbrothers as some - I think they make interesting stuff but I am no nerdfighter

minecraft technical-issues

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Q: cannot use .minecraft file

I have no .minecraft file. I tried to go to the texturepack prompt and access it but it did not work.I cannot use resource packs or mods. Please help.

Ronan Forman

@badp It's like kickstarter but for projects that don't have an end. There's no point kickstarting 10 episodes, then 10 weeks down the line make another kickstarter.

@badp Wir is the subject but I'm pretty sure it needs to be either first or third and I think adjectives/adverbs "count" as far as placing if I'm not mistaken

7:33 PM

@Wipqozn I have lost all respect for you.

@OrigamiRobot Sorry.

@OrigamiRobot NOOP ACKNOWLEDGED

> The plotline of this episode picks up from that of the previous one, Ray's preparations for a wedding to marry Tito's cousin Noelani are unway butt when a skating event leads to rocket gang deciding to go or stay for wedding could ruin rays son day and it's up to him to chose at first he chose wrong and goes but has a change of heart when he learn to women of his dad dream's is not feeling welcome and wants to leave so he stops her before she does in the end otto and reggie have a new mom .

I somehow ended up here on Wikipedia

user15026

@OrigamiRobot where the hell are you?!

@AshleyNunn List of Rocket Power episodes

user15026

7:36 PM

@OrigamiRobot Ah, I see. Not something I am familiar with.