The Bridge

GnomeSlice

20:00

@Krazer localhost server, testing a bunch of php stuff for logging on, and having a page only visible to someone who is logged in

But I really have no idea what I'm doing, nothing is really working

Krazer

@GnomeSlice What is the error you are getting?

GnomeSlice

@Krazer I don't have the permissions required to edit, move, or look at the 'protected.php' file

Even locally...

I can't actually get it to log in correctly, when I load it normally I guess my browser has the credentials stored because it starts logged in, but if I start it not logged in I can't log in.

I guess I can't remember the fucking credentials.

They should work though...

Krazer

@GnomeSlice so is this a remote box/ftp or local on your machine?

GnomeSlice

Local.

Krazer

How are you running Apache?

GnomeSlice

20:05

@Krazer wampserver

With phpmyadmin

Krazer

do you have a httpd.conf?

GnomeSlice

@Krazer ...I don't know what that is, so I'm going to guess no.

I've never had this problem before and I've been working with these exact pages for a while.

Krazer

is there a phpmyadmin.conf in a folder like C:\wamp\alias?

GnomeSlice

Whatever, I don't care, I made a new one.

@Krazer there's an alias folder. And a phpmyadmin.conf inside it

Krazer

open it and add:

Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
Allow Override all
Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.1
Allow from MACHINE_IP

GnomeSlice

20:08

This is just to give me access to phpmyadmin from outside though.

I can't even look at the file locally

Krazer

it won't even allow you to see the file premissions?

GnomeSlice

@Krazer Just add it? Do I remove what's there currently?

Krazer

@GnomeSlice what's currently there?

GnomeSlice

Order Deny,Allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.1

There's a comment above it:

# to give access to phpmyadmin from outside
# replace the lines
#
#        Order Deny,Allow
#	Deny from all
#	Allow from 127.0.0.1
#
# by
#
#        Order Allow,Deny
#   Allow from all
#

But I don't need access to phpmyadmin, that's working fine already.

Whatever, I'll worry about it later.

Krazer

are you getting an error akin to "forbidden you don't have permission to access [some-directory] on this server"?

GnomeSlice

20:12

@Krazer Depends on what I try to do. If I just try to open it in an editor it says I don't have permission

'access was denied' specifically

If I try to navigate to it from my login page...

Huh, this looks different than it was before

It just says a bunch of 'failed' and 'unknown'

Just forget about it, it's working with the new one

Martin Sojka

Step 1: Install a VM with Linux on it. Step 2: Install your MySQL DB, Apache web server and phpMyAdmin on it.

GnomeSlice

@MartinSojka Yeah, no. I don't even really know what a virtual machine is, much less want to spend a ton of time doing it.

Krazer

@GnomeSlice if you remove Deny from all and replace it with Allow from all, what happens?

Martin Sojka

It isn't actually that hard to do, modern VM tools like VirtualBox are extremely easy to set up, and can often just accept prepared appliance images, like from Turnkey

Krazer

@MartinSojka love Turnkey~<3

danp

20:43

oioi

anyone alive? :)

Wipqozn

@danp No.

danp

EXCELLENT

hello wipqozn

agent86

I showed everyone my hammer. I don't think they were as excited about it as I was. I whacked my hammer until all the power was gone out of it :(

danp

I asked a question, and was suggested to appear in the chat

Wipqozn

With regards to your question, the best platform for indie games is the PC.

danp

20:44

ah, you saw it?

Wipqozn

I was the one who suggested you ask in chat :)

danp

so you did

Wipqozn

PC is your best bet for indie gaming.

danp

sorry

OrigamiRobot

Jul 27 at 19:40, by OrigamiRobot

@Wipqozn STAR DENIED

danp

20:45

well.. I've not seen anything quite as inspirational as journey / fez on pc

solar also looks good

Wipqozn

PC wins out in terms of pure volume in my opinion, after that though hmmm

It's a tough call.

agent86

@OrigamiRobot you're a DENIED.

Wipqozn

The PS3 and 360 both have some gems.

OrigamiRobot

:(

danp

also - i'm a developer, and was interestd in maybe trying out some stuff on a console platform

Wipqozn

20:46

I would personally favour the PS3 a bit more. It has Flower, which is excellent.

agent86

@danp many of the indie games on the xbox/ps3 eventually come out for PC (see Bastion, for example, and Mark of the Ninja. I think Fez is planned...)

Wipqozn

@agent86 Fez is sort of planned.

agent86

I think porting from Xbox->PC is pretty straightforward, from what I've read.

Retrosaur

Richotet 2

danp

fez and "planned" in the same sentence scares me

Wipqozn

20:47

They said they plan to release one, but I don't think they are too concerned with getting it out.

danp

2019 thne

then*

i dunno, basically interested in different gaming experiences

that aren't just sat in front of my pc

flower is another one from thatgamecompany?

Wipqozn

Yes.

danp

it is, just saw

Wipqozn

Which reminds me, I need to play Journey.

Also, Braid and Limbo are must plays.

danp

journey looks amazing

really, really dig that kind of idea

Wipqozn

20:49

Which, iirc, are available on all platforms (except wii)

danp

braid not so interested

Wipqozn

There's also CAve Story. Which was originally on the PC,but I think was been ported to a few platforms.

Okay, I need to head off. Food needs to be mad.e

danp

kk

Wipqozn

IF @GnomeSlice was around I'm sure he'd have a good opinion to offer on 360 vs PS3 for indie games.

danp

is he on twitter?

(s)he

agent86

20:51

I've got both a PS3 and an Xbox360 and have played a bunch of indie games on both... I think I'm more fond of the Xbox, personally

danp

best not to assume a gamer is always male ;)

agent, which is the easier platform to publish on?

agent86

in addition to the "high visibility" titles (like summer of arcade) there's also sort of a (mostly neglected, but still interesting) indie gaming channel

Krazer

@danp This list of interview with indie devs is a bit dated, but still helpful.

agent86

I would say the 360, as they've got a more or less unregulated indie channel for publishing.

it's hard to get attention there, unless you get picked up by some big site

danp

krazer, thanks

agent86

20:52

but getting the game on the console isn't particularly hard.

(again, from what I understand - I'm a consumer more than a publisher :P)

danp

heh ;)

xbox without a hard drive is pointless, right?

agent86

I've seen some utter crap on there, so I assume it must not have been hard to get it made :P

Krazer

@Wipqozn sadly he's in php hell right now

danp

i'm a js developer

agent86

@danp I think they make them with 4GB 'flash drives' internal now, at the low end. Not a whole lot of space if you plan on downloading games to it

danp

20:54

yeah, the cheapest one is 4gb

agent86

I think they've got a whole development and debug environment that runs on windows, though

danp

sadly, not a windows person..

linux/osx

how does the xbox live account work?

murgatroid99

@danp in what sense?

danp

there's a gold account?

that's paid..?

murgatroid99

@danp that's the one you pay for

Krazer

20:57

@danp this site has a decent list of indie games you can filter by platform, engine,etc.

murgatroid99

@danp I don't remember all of the things you need a gold account for, but playing online is the big one

danp

cool stuff

maybe i should look for some mailing lists..

Krazer

@danp check meetup.com there might be indie game dev meet up groups near you

Retrosaur

hey guys

battletoads is now an official tag

hooray

fbueckert

@Retrosaur untags question

murgatroid99

21:12

@Retrosaur Is that why you asked that question?

Retrosaur

Don't tell anyone!

Um yeah. remove if you need to

I mean, you never know

someone just might ask a question that is actually relevant to battletoads

Invader Skoodge

Holy crap ArenaNet you're like devoted to making it impossible for me to buy this game.

murgatroid99

@Retrosaur why not just wait until that happens?

Invader Skoodge

I just attempted to buy GW2 through the web form and the charge came up as fraudulent, and I got a call from my bank saying it was frozen and is everything ok?

Krazer

@InvaderSkoodge who is your bank?

danp

21:16

later guys, thanks for tips

OrigamiRobot

@InvaderSkoodge scribbles note

danp

(gone)

Krazer

@InvaderSkoodge Submit a ticket to Support and ask an an agent will try to see they can do anything.

Lazers

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Invader Skoodge

I already got the thing straightened out with the bank.

I just want to buy a video game :(

Krazer

21:17

@InvaderSkoodge What did they say the issue was?

Invader Skoodge

@Krazer The charge was "declined" (my guess is because the GW2 servers in charge of not sucking are sucking due to the free weekend).

I don't think it's the bank's fault, I just think that ArenaNet did something funky.

I'm actually pretty happy with the bank; I got a phone call within 5 minutes.

Krazer

@InvaderSkoodge I heard ppl have had better luck using Paypal

Invader Skoodge

Yeah I was in the middle of trying that when I got a call from my bank.

I guess I could continue that now.

Ok it finally looks like it worked.

I hate PayPal though :(

pixel

@Krazer one thing I've noticed about all the phones you linked me yesterday, they're all huge!

same with the ones I linked too

GnomeSlice

@Wipqozn Xbox for casual ones, PS3 for expensive ones.

Well, it depends, Xbox has some great ones too, and the selection is a lot bigger.

Ps3 only really has things like Journey, pretty high-quality indie studio productions.

Invader Skoodge

21:28

@Fluttershy For some reason everything I try to whisper to you is going to @RavenDreamer.

Fluttershy

@InvaderSkoodge O_o Weird....

Invader Skoodge

Anyway, it's 2364 now, not 2361.

I wonder what fun issues this is going to cause.

OrigamiRobot

@pixel All non-gigantic phones are horrible nowdays

pixel

@OrigamiRobot I have small hands

Raven Dreamer

@InvaderSkoodge Strix, I'm worried about you, buddy.

Invader Skoodge

21:29

:(

pixel

so something that large would be awkward from a usability point of view I imagine, I guess I will need to head into a shop somewhere and try some

Krazer

@pixel slim factor is the only thing that the iphone really has going :p the screens are slowly catching up

pixel

@Krazer thickness is not so much the issue, it's more like being able to use it with one hand rather than cradling it with two

OrigamiRobot

@pixel I used to have this. It was awesome. It is now my alarm clock.

pixel

@OrigamiRobot looks similar to a RAZR

GnomeSlice

21:32

@danp are you still here?

OrigamiRobot

@pixel It was, except without the stupid bulge at the bottom.

17 mins ago, by danp

(gone)

GnomeSlice

@OrigamiRobot Ah. Oh well.

Michael D.

@GnomeSlice, Ottawa, Canada

I am told to just be myself, but as much as I have practiced the impression, I am still no good at it. ~Robert Brault

761 tweets, 66 followers, following 237 users

THERE IT IS ANYWAY

Invader Skoodge

No issues with lag during the entire trial? Check. Issues with lag as soon as I buy an account for real? Check.

pixel

like I think a HTC One V/Desire would be about the right size but they don't have the performance of the others

OrigamiRobot

The Galaxy S1 is decently small.

Ullallulloo

21:36

@pixel Have you considered growing a bunch?

GnomeSlice

Hey, Awesomenauts is 50% off

user2334

@GnomeSlice how's it going Michael

GnomeSlice

@MarkTrapp You didn't know my name already?

OrigamiRobot

@GnomeSlice Eh, it's mediocre

Invader Skoodge

I have the same name as @GnomeSlice :/

user2334

21:37

@GnomeSlice Sure I do, Michael

GnomeSlice

It's on my profile page, man.

Invader Skoodge

@OrigamiRobot Someone should sue them for false advertising then.

OrigamiRobot

@InvaderSkoodge It's only like $10 to change it.

user2334

@InvaderSkoodge I'm so, so sorry.

GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice, Ottawa, Canada

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user2334

21:37

@GnomeSlice Cool, Michael.

pixel

@Ullallulloo erm?

growing hands?

OrigamiRobot

@MarkTrapp MikeyBear*

pixel

or growing up

GnomeSlice

@pixel errm......

pixel

I don't think I'm going to grow "up" any further than I have already

Ullallulloo

21:38

@pixel Grow bigger hands.

Growing up usually increases hand size though.

Invader Skoodge

@GnomeSlice Where?

GnomeSlice

@InvaderSkoodge Oh, it's not public?

I just assumed you guys could see all of that shit.

I guess it's not then. But he's a mod.

He can see it anyway.

Invader Skoodge

@MarkTrapp is not a mod.

user2334

@GnomeSlice No I'm not, Michael.

GnomeSlice

@MarkTrapp I thought you were a mod somewhere else.

Also, I didn't realize we were suddenly on first-name speaking terms, I thought you hated me.

badp

21:41

That's true, he was

user2334

@GnomeSlice Even if I were, I couldn't have seen your Gaming profile private fields, Michael

badp

@InvaderSkoodge lol

It's going to be interesting to see how many people will be playing the game the day after tomorrow

user2334

Did they have a free trial weekend or something?

badp

well, interesting for you

Yes, ending some time tomorrow my time zone

user2334

I see.

badp

21:44

Dunno at what point

user2334

Odd they didn't extend it through Thanksgiving weekend

Invader Skoodge

Midnight west coast time.

badp

I leveled up to 15 in the trial but... eh

GnomeSlice

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pixel

@OrigamiRobot I think I've used one of these

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21:46

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pixel

or at least something that looks awfully a lot like it

OrigamiRobot

@pixel I have the S2 which is quite a bit bigger. I'd rather have the S1

pixel

@LessPop_MoreFizz could be blood elf

also I thought we were removing 'thank you' from questons :P

GnomeSlice

Oh, Awesomenauts is a MOBA?

eergh

pixel

I have a feeling I'm probably going to end up getting another iphone :|

user2334

21:50

@GnomeSlice MOBA lite

LessPop_MoreFizz

@pixel could be, but the point is that Buddhas English is consistently awful and it makes what I suspect is an easy question (I think he's confusing food and bandages) unneccesarily annoying.

pixel

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah I wasn't going to go with the whole 'you can't eat food in combat'

the last WoW question I did similar on pointed out a bug

dexter is the wrong show to watch while eating

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