The Bridge

Grace Note

5:00 PM

@ArdaXi PoC?

Brant

1) which knows your community profile URL

2) while logged in to steamcommunity.com

and whoever owns that site can change your profile

@GraceNote Proof of concept

Grace Note

Ah

GnomeSlice

23 mins ago, by GnomeSlice

CORTEX COMMAND, Y U SLOW DOWN SO MUCH

ARGH

Did anyone ever managed to beat me on the StackExchange speedway?

Ronan Forman

Brant

heh.

GnomeSlice

5:11 PM

@RonanForman Hah, great.

Ronan Forman

I didn't want a human corpse, so it's a diggle from Dungeons of Dreadmore.

It's also a rouge-like so that's good.

Brant

Diablo 3 delayed to early 2012

Ronan Forman

@Brant Yay! ...wait, is that good?

Grace Note

@RonanForman Rogue

GnomeSlice

@Ronan I don't really like the heart in the QR code.

Ronan Forman

5:14 PM

Too late.

@GnomeSlice Why?

GnomeSlice

Since there's already a large one in the text to the right of it.

sjohnston

It's a little repetitive

Ronan Forman

That's a point... I'll take them out.

GnomeSlice

Argh, why can't I even beat my own time on this SE track

Ronan Forman

You're too good at it? ...No that can't be right.

GnomeSlice

5:22 PM

Embryonic Superheroes are where cute meets creepy

o.o

For example:

Wipqozn

@Mana damn straight I am. I'm awesome.

DMA57361

evenin' all, anyone here used OnLive before?

just noticed it's hit the UK now and wondering if it's worth taking a look at

Arda Xi

is officially losing his glasses

Ronan Forman

Well stop before you do, you'll never find them again.

Arda Xi

@RonanForman Well, it's an old prescription, so they're not of that much use to me.

Ronan Forman

5:36 PM

I love having eye sight. It's just sooooo cool!

badp

Hey, @bobbygrace wrote a post about the new Trello card filtering system. It has cute diagrams. http://bit.ly/oWmsuL

Tweeted by TrelloApp on September 23, 2011 at 3:58 PM

The simple thought of "Bobbygrace" terrifies me

Although it would make for an interesting merge

What's next, barda pi?

Arda Xi

@badp Woah. Woah.

badp

@ArdaXi My point precisely

Grace Note

Assuming this is referencing a pair, who exactly would be the "bob" portion?

badp

Bobby Brant?

Grace Note

5:45 PM

Brant's a Bobby?

badp

(At least that's how he markets/ed himself)

Grace Note

Huh. Never knew that.

Brant

3

Mana

What's up everybody?

Brant

Wow, action button dot net's new design is sweet.

Dave McClelland

5:56 PM

@Brant Oh, god - my eyes are bleeding

Mana

@Brant They're updating more frequently?!

Brant

It's a slow trickle.

Mana

@DaveMcClelland No man, this is amazing

badp

@DaveMcClelland You don't get to complain until you hit the action button

Dave McClelland

@badp Will it play any ridiculously loud music or anything? I'm at work and my speakers are on

badp

6:04 PM

Disappointingly it won't

unless my browser's broken

Dave McClelland

It actually starts looking a lot better the more I press that button

Still, that's some big-ass text

Powerlord

Today is shaping up to be a weird day.

They suddenly decided that the entire department (of, what, 10,000 people?) needs to convert from Novell Groupwise Messenger to Microsoft Lync by tomorrow afternoon.

Oh, but they forgot to create Lync accounts for us.

badp

Oh, but I'm sure the accountants were reassured it would be a piece of cake thanks to the MSDN technology

Powerlord

> The Timeline for this transition was very compressed to meet the deadline for the GroupWise retirement to help avoid license maintenance costs and avoid any interruption in IM functionality for users.

badp

or the executives or whatever the highly technically skilled guys who made the call were

Powerlord

6:08 PM

Note: This was from an email sent to management after close of business yesterday.

Brant

@Powerlord LOL

"The license is expiring and we didn't have the replacement ready in time"

Powerlord

Damn it, I need to exact number of employees before I can submit this to DailyWTF.

badp

I just have to wonder how much time ago this call was actually made, and remained stagnant in whatever powerpoint

Powerlord

Oh, and then I was asked to forward phones to someone earlier today, only to have it ring in my boss's boss's boss's office instead.

(good thing he's at a conference)

Turns out, if the person I transferred it to is on the phone, it goes to the big boss's office instead. I think Dave wrote a message to someone (receptionist) so we can get that fixed. It should be transferring to the other front desk phone.

badp

I'm kinda disappointed that Minecraft's "exploit" about holding items in the inventory screen crafting area has been fixed

Powerlord

6:33 PM

Oh that's cute, now auto-complete isn't working in this Visual Studio project.

No, wait, just for this file (which isn't any better)

...I had to unload the project, open the vcproj file, and reload the project to get it working again.

Arda Xi

2

Dave McClelland

@Arda This is like the other day when I realized why the SE user "Popular Demand" named himself thusly

Post edited at 5:30 by Popular Demand

Wipqozn

I dare say good chaps

I should play some TF2

Arda Xi

@Wipqozn Good call.

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi I thought as much. Are you planning to join us for TF2 this weekend?

Arda Xi

6:47 PM

I might, depends on whether I have time.

Raven Dreamer

@badp That was a while ago.

But yeah, me too.

I tried to get back into minecraft with 1.8

but then 1.9 was being worked on, and I just wanted to wait.

Same reason I'm not playing dwarf fortress, I guess.

Arda Xi

I'm on a server called Brony.

Raven Dreamer

(But in that case I've been waiting 9 months)

Grace Note

@ArdaXi ... the prevalence of these things is frightening.

Powerlord

@ArdaXi Do they have the Ponyspenser mod installed?

Arda Xi

6:51 PM

No.

As far as I can tell anyway. Thank god.

Powerlord

How can they be Bronies, then? :O

Of course, newer version of Ponyspenser require an Engineer to type in a command before his Dispensers appear as Ponyspensers.

@GraceNote: So, will you grace us with your presence in (free) TF2 this weekend?

Arda Xi

Grace doesn't do Steam.

Grace Note

@Powerlord Did you know there's a Red Sox vs. Yankees game this weekend that I may have tickets to?

GnomeSlice

@badp Oh, thanks for fixing the clickety link, by the way.

Grace Note

I mean, yes, @Arda's still got the right of it, I still have a beef with Steam, but I'm pretty much gone for both days this weekend.

Raven Dreamer

6:54 PM

@Powerlord That pun was odious.

badp

@GnomeSlice thank balpha, not me

Raven Dreamer

@GraceNote The beef of not caring!

badp

@GraceNote no biggie. There will be more

GnomeSlice

@badp Oh. Alright then.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote What do you mean you have a life?

badp

6:55 PM

(besides, given how I've gotten people to accept my resistances wrt surnames, I find it now especially bad to force the hand on issues such as steam.)

Now, I have a new gate. "E quater". Sigh

Perhaps it's time I revised my naming scheme, I don't even know what'd come after quater

quinques?

Powerlord

@GraceNote Turns out we have Game Ons scheduled for both days this weekend.

Grace Note

@Powerlord How late in the day is the Sunday one?

GnomeSlice

Wow, how did I just notice this now:

That's... just awesome.

Raven Dreamer

Just finished listing to the entire Super Smash Bros. Brawl soundtrack.

It makes for good white noise.

Where's @LessPopMoreFizz? I have a question that he may be able to help me with.

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Including the unlockable tracks from older/other games?

Raven Dreamer

6:59 PM

@GnomeSlice I mean, the entirety of these two Youtube playlists: youtube.com/view_play_list?p=A2E3926DAFA8F80C and youtube.com/view_play_list?p=94F9315233CAFF11

@Mana the bar IS AT 40%!!!

Powerlord

@GraceNote 3pm EDT

Grace Note

Uf. That may be too early.

Raven Dreamer

I cannot for the life of me remember the Melee credits screen.

I know Brawl had the sticker montage, and I can remember the original's credits rail shooter...

To the YouTubes!

GnomeSlice

@RavenDreamer Rail shooter.

The original just had a scrolling text rail shooter.

Raven Dreamer

Crap. That means I can't remember the original then.

GnomeSlice

7:03 PM

The melee one was three dimensional.

Raven Dreamer

Found it. Yeah, okay. Credits have been pretty similar across the series

GnomeSlice

I still liked the one from melee the best.

Raven Dreamer

Hm. What is this Pokemon Rumble thing?

LessPop_MoreFizz

7:23 PM

@raven: what's up?

(as for where I am, at a VW dealership waiting on service.)

Wipqozn

7:44 PM

@GraceNote So, in other words, we just need to take a photo of everyone at the game and we'll have taken your photo?

Grace Note

@Wipqozn Actually that wouldn't work.

Arda Xi

@GraceNote It's not possible to make a picture of you? Are you like a vampire?

Wipqozn

@ArdaXi take a note of that Arda

Arda Xi

I already have of course.

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Well, I imagine that if you want to take a picture of me, I'd have to be in the view of the camera. I should also note that I take my word choice seriously. ♪

Arda Xi

7:47 PM

@GraceNote You're referring to the 'may'.

Wipqozn

@GraceNote oh, I know!

just announce that you won something/et cetear, need to report to the office

then we'd figure it out

Grace Note

@ArdaXi Not even that, actually.

Wipqozn

THat would teach you to value your privacy

LessPop_MoreFizz

Really, what @Grace is saying is that this sneaky photo from PAX on my phone is contraband of the highest order.

Arda Xi

Ooh.

scribbles notes

Grace Note

7:50 PM

Wait for next PAX and I might have costume.

Wipqozn

So are you are a sizable baseball fan @GraceNote, or just a passing interest?

Grace Note

@Wipqozn I'm a sizeable Red Sox fan.

Wipqozn

I see I see

user30

►

user30

so nice

Grace Note

7:53 PM

Somehow, I don't expect to make it past the end of the year without a photo of me somehow cropping up.

badp

You'd be surprised

you know, @GraceNote, you should be glad we're talking English. If the 'lingua franca' of the world was still (say) Latin, keeping it gender neutral would be so much harder.</random-consideration-of-the-now>

Arda Xi

@badp It'd be more likely for the lingua franca to be Dutch.

badp

and by challenging I mean basically impossible

Grace Note

Perhaps.

LessPop_MoreFizz

I rooted for the Rays yesterday. Because 1) Yankee fan schadenfreude, this red sox collapse is amazing and 2) three way wild card tie would be incredible/hilarious.

badp

7:57 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz You're going to make a terrible fantasy league

Grace Note

Schadenfreude is one of those words I always forget the meaning of the day after I look it up.

badp

You wouldn't if you were playing TF2

user30

laughing

Arda Xi

@GraceNote Pleasure at the misfortune of others.

►

badp

Here, finally something that you can get from TF2: never again wonder what a Schadenfreude is again

Grace Note

7:58 PM

@ArdaXi Thanks

Arda Xi

@badp Err?

GnomeSlice

@ThomasMcDonald Eh, I liked Bare Noize's remix.

Arda Xi

What's it got to do with TF2?

user30

It's the name of a taunt in TF2

user30

@GnomeSlice Meh, there's some good beats in there

user30

7:59 PM

Also, I take pleasure from the fact that my Facebook friends know I just listened to a song called Kill EVERYBODY

Grace Note

Could be worse

badp

I wonder what does the reskinned rain look like in 1.9

user30

@badp looks like a sandstorm

The Stack Exchange Blog

Stack Overflow Blog: Bounty Reasons and Post Notices

Posted by Jeff Atwood on September 23rd, 2011

It’s been a little over a year since our last improvement to the bounty system. Bounties have been working well enough that we’re comfortable encouraging even more use of the bounty system.

As of about a week ago, you can have up to three simultaneous bounties now. We also show the history and number of bounties you’ve started or participated in on your user page, on the bounties tab.

Upon further reflection, we realized that it can be difficult to tell exactly what a bounty is for. That is, what is the bounty owner — who may or may not be the question owner — looki …

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp The only fantasy league I'm participating in this year is a Bad Quarterbacks League. It is amazing. Thank you Jacksonville Jaguars for giving me a 100 point week last week.

badp

8:04 PM

gaming.stackexchange.com/annotated-posts?tab=noticed

user30

@GnomeSlice okay, that remix is pretty nice

GnomeSlice

@ThomasMcDonald I thought the intro to the original was kind of... o.o

LessPop_MoreFizz

God damnit Blizzard you're going to make me fucking resub and raid again, aren't you...

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz ...How can they force you to do that?

I like Video Games

user30

@GnomeSlice Yeah, the intro is pretty poor

LessPop_MoreFizz

8:08 PM

They are turning Rogues (the class I played) into fucking BATMAN.

GnomeSlice

@LessPop_MoreFizz "The Goddam Batman"*

Lazers

0

Q: How long do defend quests last?

I played a round of Dominion last night and noticed two quests that came up for our team. One of them was for capturing a point, and the other was for defending another point. Our team wasn't doing too well at capturing the required point so I decided to help out with the defense point. We defend...

Brant

@LessPop_MoreFizz WHAT

U GIEV

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant The wings come from the new Rogue legendary

I... I think I need to resub.

Arda Xi

@LessPop_MoreFizz Holy Rogue Batman.

Brant

8:10 PM

Bah. That's something I'd need to raid to get. :(

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant (the Daggers in his hands are the legendary weapon.)

Brant

Not that it'd be hard to get into raiding, seeing as there's now a gear reset every tier instead of every expansion

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Yep. I mean, it's not like I don't have the pedigree to jump into just about any raiding guild under the sun... but... :effort:.

Brant

Exactly. We can do that, we just don't want to.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant No, I mean I can actually end up in a guild where I can get my hands on a set... very very quickly. Before I quit I was raiding with a guild that's top 10 US.

Anna Lear

8:14 PM

Ergh. This doesn't look evil at all, EA.

Brant

I know what you meant, I just think that raiding isn't something that takes skill. :P

user30

@Anna wrong link?

Anna Lear

@ThomasMcDonald Don't know what you're talking about. =)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant And I think that you're wrong if you're talking about Heroic level raiding.

user30

I'm pretty sure those clauses will be unenforceable though?

user30

8:16 PM

obv, as an EU citizen, that clause appears not to apply to me

user30

although I haven't signed up for origin, I'm guessing my EA account has transitioned or something

Brant

I'm not saying you can walk into an instance blind and play perfectly, but it's something anyone can learn to do.

Anna Lear

@ThomasMcDonald In the US, though, you'd have to apply in writing to be exempt from it.

Brant

As long as you put the necessary hours into the game.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Skill != Talent. Skills can be trained. Which is what putting the necessary hours in is doing.

Wipqozn

8:17 PM

@AnnaLear I have to say, I'm really proud of EA. They are doing a great job at ensuring no one will ever use their shitty origin service.

Anna Lear

@Brant So that makes it a learned skill. Your point earlier was that raiding doesn't take any... which is not entirely the case.

@Wipqozn Sadly, most people probably don't know/don't care.

Brant

@LessPop_MoreFizz Okay, that's a valid point. Let me rephrase my earlier statement then: Raiding doesn't require talent.

badp

Has anybody here actually tried it?

user30

no

Anna Lear

@badp I like Steam. One digital distribution service is enough for me.

Wipqozn

8:18 PM

@badp I have not, nor do I plan to. I'd rather not have spyware downloaded onto my computer, which I assume is what EA will do

I don't trust EA.

At all.

badp

@AnnaLear That's a completely different matter

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Almost no video games do. Aside from maybe bullet hell shmups and high level competitive starcraft (like GSL grade. I think pretty much anyone can learn their way up the ladders), most gaming comes down to skills, not raw talent.

badp

I also was part of the gangband that hated Windows Vista until I actually used it. shrugs

Wipqozn

They've proven time and time again they have no professional code of business ethics.

Anna Lear

@badp Sure, but I'm not seeing anything coming out of Origin that makes me go "oooh, gotta try this puppy".

@badp I hated Windows Vista even after I used it. :P

badp

8:19 PM

You'd be hardpressed to find somebody praising Vista too.

Brant

Hmm, yeah, that's true too.

Maybe I should rephrase again...

badp

Vista is probably up there with Windows 2000 and Windows 95 as 'windows release that matter.'

(okay, maybe not Windows 95 levels. That'd be what Win8 is aiming for.)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant The thing about raiding is that it tends to, in addition to it's baseline skill requirement, require a fairly large amount of time investment, both to clear shit in the first place, and to develop a slightly altered set of skills in every tier.

Grace Note

Hm. Shmups.

Brant

I know that I could be in a top-tier raiding guild if I had an extra 10 hours in the week to spend grinding, because I'm a smart guy and everyone else is stoopid, even though I haven't raided since AQ40 and we never got past huhu because god that boss was stupid

LessPop_MoreFizz

8:21 PM

Thus, the time investment is disproportionately high compared to a number of other activities - and, perhaps even more noticably, the time investment required is generally much more rigidly scheduled.

badp

STOOPID STOOPID STOOPID.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Except that I haven't done any grinding for raid prep outside of a raid since mid-wrath.

Blizz has changed that aspect of the game in a huge way.

user30

yay time to rebase and merge

LessPop_MoreFizz

And even that grinding was just farming raid trash for rep.

If you're talking mats/gold farming, not since Sunwell.

From the standpoint of economics in game, Raiding is generally gold-positive if you're even moderately successful. The gold/hour is higher than most farming/grinding that you could do.

Brant

Gold-positive? mind explodes

badp

8:23 PM

Poor soul. I liked him

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Most raid bosses drop like 2-500 g/raider.

+ BoE epics which sell for a ton

+ once you run out of badge loot (fairly quickly), VP can be converted into sellable goods quite easily as well.

GnomeSlice

Who ever said disco was dead, anyway?

Brant

Everything's coming up maelstrom crystal!

err wait, those are the purple ones

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Yeah, that's right.

Brant

I meant the blue cata enchanting reagent

Heavenly shard.

Maelstroms are junk now

Powerlord

8:26 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Raid bosses drop BoE epics now?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Powerlord Some do, but more importantly, Raid trash does!

Brant

Anyway: I like to think I'm a pretty smart player. I understand the game systems even though I leave actual the number crunching to others. I like to think I would excel in a raiding environment, if I had the connections and the time to get into doing them. Maybe I'm wrong and I'm just being arrogant, but it makes me feel better about myself. :P

(And only a wee bit holier-than-thou, where thou = everyone else who plays WoW except the people in this room)

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Okay, that's a perfectly valid statement. The thing to understand however is that that time investment is in the form of structured scheduled raid times (read, whatever 5-20 hour/week schedule you agree to), and not time outside of raids.

Mana

@RavenDreamer YEEEEEEEEEES

LessPop_MoreFizz

The hard part about raiding re: time is the scheduling, not the raw quantity, if you're even a moderately serious gamer in general.

Mana

8:29 PM

Also I am drenched!

Brant

Yeah. I remember something I read on Tobold's blog a long time ago that really resonated with me: "Hardcore" is not about the amount of time you play, it's about how your playtime is scheduled.

I'm a casual player because I don't/can't plan when I'm going to play. Every now and then I'll sit down and play WoW all weekend for like 20 hours, but I can't exactly plan to do that, or even plan to play for 2 hours on Thursday night.

In other words, I'm exactly the person Blizzard is making the raid finder for.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Brant Yes. This is my point. Even if Tobold is largely dumb

(also agreed)

I like that song.

8:44 PM

@Mana raining outside, or did you fall in a lake or something?

Mana

farlarlarlarlaaaaaaarlar

Raining outside.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord you should probably update this answer with information on The Big Earner

14

A: What are the pros and cons of the spy knives?

Comparison table Base (Max) Disguise Backstab Hitpoints Kit Icon On backstab Knife 125 (185) Yes Yes Disguise drops Enemy screams (crit-death) YER 125 (185) No No Disguise as the enemy, ...

Anna Lear

@Mana Are you back in Tdot? It's been raining all day this side of the province. >.<

Brant

Made up Gaming word of the day: Rebooquel

Mana

@AnnaLear Yeah...:(

Anna Lear

8:47 PM

@Brant Sequoot?

Grace Note

@Brant So, basically, a continuity reboot.

Wipqozn

@AnnaLear Nova SCotia looks like it's about to down pour, but we haven't seen a single drop all day.

TheEpicUnknown

Hi

GnomeSlice

I fucking love Disco. It's Amazing.

Brant

/

TheEpicUnknown

8:54 PM

I am now TheEpicUnknown - not awesome404

Anna Lear

@TheEpicUnknown If you tell us who you are, does that make you TheEpicKnown?

TheEpicUnknown

But who AM I?

I'm out - bye

Raven Dreamer

@LessPop_MoreFizz I have Warlock Season 3. I already have wings.

Also, I was hoping you had some experience on playing media files programatically.

I'm looking for a better way than the AxWindowsMediaPlayer COM, which is what I'm currently using.

The biggest issue is to be able to get the first frame, to "preview" where the video file is after a seek, which my current player can't provide.

badp

9:09 PM

So apparently there's a 1% chance of spaaaaaaaaaaace debris raining in this general part of Italy

Mana

Don't die.

2

badp

If I should unexpectedly cut off communication, let it be known that I died in the most awesome way possible.

2

Arda Xi

I heard last time it fell in Australia. They fined NASA $400 for littering.

@badp You could've been hit by a space toilet.

Wipqozn

If @badp died, would we need to hold another moderator election?

FallenAngelEyes

@badp Hope you don't get hit by a flaming toilet

Arda Xi

9:10 PM

@FallenAngelEyes I knew I'm not the only one who watched Dead Like Me.

FallenAngelEyes

@ArdaXi I've not seen the whole series, but they showed it on Comedy Central for a while here back around when I first moved here

Arda Xi

@FallenAngelEyes Yeah, same here.

FallenAngelEyes

I should watch the rest of it sometime

Raven Dreamer

Hi, Fallen! Hi, Arda!

badp

Apparently spppaaaaaaaaaaaaace debris is also covered by sppaaaaaaaaaace toxic gases

Mana

9:12 PM

HEY FALLEN. Not saying hi to Arda.

Arda Xi

Err... hi. Oh. :(

badp

We're both advised to keep away 20 meters from debris, and to sleep in the bottom floors

Raven Dreamer

Oh, snap.

Arda Xi

quietly leaves

Raven Dreamer

Dominion is available again!

FallenAngelEyes

9:12 PM

@RavenDreamer Hi enthusiastic Raven!

Raven Dreamer

To the League of Legends!

FallenAngelEyes

@Mana HEY MANA

Arda Xi

@Mana You're a jerk. :(

Mana

DEAL WITH IT. shades

2

Arda Xi

:(

Powerlord

9:14 PM

> The Great JavaScript Debate: Improve It Or Kill It

Gee, I wonder which side I'm on there!!!

Raven Dreamer

There's nothing better than bias!

Arda Xi

murder

Powerlord

@RavenDreamer I hate to say it, but that "debate" is about nothing but bias.

Arda Xi

@Powerlord No, discussion is.

badp

7

A: What kinds of bad question askers exist?

those that belong to the Emperor, embalmed ones, those that are trained, suckling pigs, mermaids, fabulous ones, stray dogs, those included in the present classification, those that tremble as if they were mad, innumerable ones, those drawn with a very fine camelhair brush, others, t...

@Arda I'm afraid you're about to get question banned :(

Arda Xi

9:26 PM

Yay!

Powerlord

@badp "About" to? From something back in April?

badp

IT WAS TWEETED A FEW MINUTES AGO

CLEARLY IT IS NEW

wargarbl

Powerlord

> Dish misses out on opportunity to cash in on Netflix missteps

Apparently they're offering a Blockbuster Movie Pass thing with streaming and DVDs for $10/month. Restricted to Dish's (satellite) subscribers. Whoops.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Did you consider that they might be losing money at that price point and using it as a loss leader to drive their satellite business?